Week 12 2024 who should I start thread **OFFICIALLY UNOFFICIAL** (1 Viewer)

[Chaka]

This is where we ask questions and offer help.

Thank you to all the posters who come here to offer that help.

A couple notes:

I attempt to give well considered responses to all questions posted. I can't get to everything, but I'll try.

1) This only works if people participate. If you ask for help it is good form to offer help to someone else.

2) Please post the matchup. e.g. Cousins vs Den or James Cook @ Mia

3) Please post important league scoring considerations (e.g. PPR, super-flex etc).

4) Please go easy on the nicknames, save that for other threads. We can't help if we don't know who you are talking about.

View this as an exercise to help focus your thoughts about teams in general. Players you own may not be involved in these WDIS questions but certainly you will own players on many of these teams. Analyzing other players will help you identify things you may have otherwise not considered.

Let's move on to week 12

 

[Chaka]

Also, let's try to remember this is a crowdsourcing thread. I make every effort to answer every single post but I can't always make that happen. So, if you are here asking for help it would be great if you also offered help to others in here.

TIA

 

[Chaka]

I'll start.

PPR I need a RB2:
Jonathan Taylor v DET (#6 v RBs)
David Montgomery @ IND (#21)

I'm pretty locked in on Montgomery here.

 

[Chaka]

PPR I need a flex play:

Jonathan Taylor v DET (#6 v RBs)
DeAndre Hopkins @ CAR (#13 v WRs)
Jayden Reed v SF (#11)
Malik Nabers v TB (#29)
Terry McLaurin v DAL (#15)

 

[MrJimiT]

I'll start.

PPR I need a RB2:
Jonathan Taylor v DET (#6 v RBs)
David Montgomery @ IND (#21)

I'm pretty locked in on Montgomery here.

That's a tougher choice than it appears (to me). I would have thought Taylor for certain. But AR could vulture goaline opp's from him. I still might lean Taylor, though Montgomery is a pretty solid floor.

 

[LionOfGosforth]

I'll start.

PPR I need a RB2:
Jonathan Taylor v DET (#6 v RBs)
David Montgomery @ IND (#21)

I'm pretty locked in on Montgomery here.

Monty but Taylor has a habit of proving me wrong. ARich is back and vulturing tds so I lean Monty.

 

[LionOfGosforth]

PPR I need a flex play:

Jonathan Taylor v DET (#6 v RBs)
DeAndre Hopkins @ CAR (#13 v WRs)
Jayden Reed v SF (#11)
Malik Nabers v TB (#29)
Terry McLaurin v DAL (#15)

Man, you have 3 great PPR options in McLaurin, Nabers and Hopkins, all with great matchups too. Thinking McLaurin if Daniels is fully healthy. If not, it's between Hopkins and Nabers and I would lean Nabers, such a soft secondary and Mahomes spreads it around a bit too much to lock on Hopkins. Plus they probably won't need to throw too much either. For all that waffle I probably rank

McLaurin->Nabers->Hopkins->Reed..............->Taylor

 

[LionOfGosforth]

Due to a combo platter of byes, I lose Hall and Chase this week. Therefore, I only have one dilemma. I know DEF questions are hated but

Steelers @ Browns
or
Lions @ Colts

Both pretty good matchups. I lean Steelers only because Lions lost Anzalone through injury and ARich is back to running in the tds. Plus Jameis likes to sling it and turn it over.

 

[BearsFan4Life]

14 team Dynasty ... Standard Scoring .. 6 pts all TDs - (5-6 currently and playing the 6-5 team this week who is currently in the last playoff spot)

Pick 1 QB:
Mahomes @ Carolina
Daniels vs Dallas

Pick 2 Flex (CMC and Barkley are locked in):
JTaylor vs Det
JJacobs vs SF
ARSB @ Ind
NCollins vs TN
Tyreek Hill vs NE

Thanks.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Steelers @ Browns
or
Lions @ Colts

Steelers

Anzalone being out 6-8 weeks is going to have some impact.

That said, man are they solid right now. Every game 1 or less TD pass allowed + 10 straight g with an INT. Pretty solid run defense.

They get pressure but sacks are not there since Hutch went down. Za’Darius helps.

Love the CLE matchup though. AR & JT are weapons that the Browns don’t come close to matching.

 

[Chaka]

Due to a combo platter of byes, I lose Hall and Chase this week. Therefore, I only have one dilemma. I know DEF questions are hated but

Steelers @ Browns
or
Lions @ Colts

Both pretty good matchups. I lean Steelers only because Lions lost Anzalone through injury and ARich is back to running in the tds. Plus Jameis likes to sling it and turn it over.

If you get bonuses for TOs then I agree the Steelers are a good option. Realistically you have two very good options. The Steelers D may be better but the Lions offense puts pressure on opposing teams like no one else. I'm on the fence here but would probably go with the Lions by a razor thin margin.

 

[Chaka]

14 team Dynasty ... Standard Scoring .. 6 pts all TDs - (5-6 currently and playing the 6-5 team this week who is currently in the last playoff spot)

Pick 1 QB:
Mahomes @ Carolina
Daniels vs Dallas

Pick 2 Flex (CMC and Barkley are locked in):
JTaylor vs Det
JJacobs vs SF
ARSB @ Ind
NCollins vs TN
Tyreek Hill vs NE

Thanks.

Mahomes because he's heating up over his last four games (6 TDs in his first six and 9 in his last four with two 3 TD games). Dallas has one of the worst rush Ds in the league so I expect a heavy dose of Robinson & Ekeler. Daniels may vulture some goal line TDs but I think that is less likely because he is dealing with his chest injury.

I go with ARSB & Nico and don't think twice about it. I can easily make an argument for Tyreek and if you go that way I would bench Nico. But those are the only ones I would consider.

 

[1320kid]

I'll start.

PPR I need a RB2:
Jonathan Taylor v DET (#6 v RBs)
David Montgomery @ IND (#21)

I'm pretty locked in on Montgomery here.

Riding with Monty myself till the wheels fall off.

PPR I need a flex play:

Jonathan Taylor v DET (#6 v RBs)
DeAndre Hopkins @ CAR (#13 v WRs)
Jayden Reed v SF (#11)
Malik Nabers v TB (#29)
Terry McLaurin v DAL (#15)

Bounce back game for Scary Terry. Want to see how Nabers is with DeVito for a game if you can afford to. Hop is a good option as well. Tough but I take McLaurin over Hop.

Due to a combo platter of byes, I lose Hall and Chase this week. Therefore, I only have one dilemma. I know DEF questions are hated but

Steelers @ Browns
or
Lions @ Colts

Both pretty good matchups. I lean Steelers only because Lions lost Anzalone through injury and ARich is back to running in the tds. Plus Jameis likes to sling it and turn it over.

Both great options. Give me Steelers on a short week for chaos.

 

[-OZ-]

Super flex
Gotta go with Caleb vs Vikings over Winston vs the Steelers. Right?

 

[1320kid]

Full PPR

TE
Kraft vs 49ers
LaPorta @ IND (FWIW I also own and will be starting Monty)

Flex
Waddle vs Pats
Warren @ CLE
Pierce vs DET

Could also get crazy and flex the TE I don't start in my TE spot.

 

[LionOfGosforth]

Full PPR

TE
Kraft vs 49ers
LaPorta @ IND (FWIW I also own and will be starting Monty)

Flex
Waddle vs Pats
Warren @ CLE
Pierce vs DET

Could also get crazy and flex the TE I don't start in my TE spot.

Dang, tough. I lean LaPorta over Kraft. Kraft has just disappeared from their gameplan last few weeks. No idea why, it's a good topic for discussion separate from WDIS threads. Why do players emerge and thrive, then disappear without apparent cause?

Flex - I want to say Waddle because the matchup is so good but he's so unreliable too. Waddle but with little confidence.

 

[Chaka]

Super flex
Gotta go with Caleb vs Vikings over Winston vs the Steelers. Right?

Winston's dud games usually still involve lots of yards and a TD or two, it's just that it also means 2-3 INTs.

Caleb's floor is very low but the matchup is nice from a passing yardage perspective. Minnesota gives up lots of pass yards & TDs but they're still the #4 scoring defense. I am hesitant to suggest that Caleb's improvement this week is a trend... but I like that he ran so efficiently as well so.

Yes, by a thin margin I may gamble on Caleb.

 

[Chaka]

Full PPR

TE
Kraft vs 49ers
LaPorta @ IND (FWIW I also own and will be starting Monty)

Flex
Waddle vs Pats
Warren @ CLE
Pierce vs DET

Could also get crazy and flex the TE I don't start in my TE spot.

Well they both have a floor of zero so... I guess I go with LaPorta under the assumption the Lions will score more points so he will have more opps to score a TD.

Waddle will eventually have a big game but how many will he cost you chasing that? I think he has the highest ceiling of the bunch so if that is important you should consider him.

Otherwise I am an unabashed fan of Warren. He just had 13 opportunities (four targets) in a tight game with Baltimore and I expect that share of opportunities to continue on the short week. He also has big play upside.

Pierce is all about the big play and Richardson isn't shy about putting up deep balls but, I can't trust AR at QB and I hate relying on big plays to salvage days. Unlike Waddle I don't think Pierce has 8-10 target upside. Waddle hasn't had that this year either but this offense is starting to roll a little bit and I think we are seeing them start to round into 2023 form.

Warren>Waddle>Pierce

 

[BlackCrowes]

Super flex
Gotta go with Caleb vs Vikings over Winston vs the Steelers. Right?

i like Winston, unless you have really harsh penalties for INTs

 

[jobarules]

Warren or E Moore at flex in 0.5 ppr

Jonnu, Hock, or Dissley at TE

 

[-OZ-]

Super flex
Gotta go with Caleb vs Vikings over Winston vs the Steelers. Right?

i like Winston, unless you have really harsh penalties for INTs

lol. Nope. -1 for INT, 6 pts for passing TD.

 

[Timmay]

0.5 PPR

Pick 2:
Devonta Smith at Rams
Josh Downs vs Lions
Chuba Hubbard vs Chiefs
Jauan Jennings at Packers

 

[1320kid]

0.5 PPR

Pick 2:
Devonta Smith at Rams
Josh Downs vs Lions
Chuba Hubbard vs Chiefs
Jauan Jennings at Packers

Smith and Downs. IND will have to play catchup imo and Downs seems to be the best WR in Indy atm. Leaning slightly to Smith over Hubbard as I think CAR will also be playing against a game script that forces them to abandon the run eventually. Rams have firepower and that game could be high scoring.

 

[Rubi]

I'll start.

PPR I need a RB2:
Jonathan Taylor v DET (#6 v RBs)
David Montgomery @ IND (#21)

I'm pretty locked in on Montgomery here.

Easy,Montgomery

 

[Rubi]

PPR I need a flex play:

Jonathan Taylor v DET (#6 v RBs)
DeAndre Hopkins @ CAR (#13 v WRs)
Jayden Reed v SF (#11)
Malik Nabers v TB (#29)
Terry McLaurin v DAL (#15)

McLaurin at home against that D
Reed would be my #2 choice

 

[Rubi]

FFPC scoring:
Need a final flex:

R.Doubbs vs SF
Q.Johnston vs BALT

 

[Chaka]

Warren or E Moore at flex in 0.5 ppr

Jonnu, Hock, or Dissley at TE

Winston has finally unlocked Moore, he has been a safe floor with nice ceiling option since Winston took over. He's averaging 9.7 targets (low of 8), 5.7 receptions and 59.7 yards in the three games Winston has started. It's a very tough matchup but Moore seems like a legitimate option for the Browns ATM. It's a tough matchup, that's the problem.

Warren is in line for 10-15 opportunities. He's efficient, has big play ability and it's a much better matchup.

Warren.

I don't know a lot about TEs but Dissley has the best matchup IMO so...

 

[Chaka]

0.5 PPR

Pick 2:
Devonta Smith at Rams
Josh Downs vs Lions
Chuba Hubbard vs Chiefs
Jauan Jennings at Packers

I hate Hubbard's matchup otherwise he'd be a slam dunk start. But the matchup makes me want to look elsewhere.

I don't see how Jennings isn't an auto start at this point. The guy is balling and Purdy seems to trust him, a lot. Personally I think he makes the Niners regret giving Aiyuk a bunch of money. They should have traded him.

I guess Downs will see a lot of opportunities under the assumption the Lions are going to score in bunches. So I guess I would go with him next.

I like Devonta but I think he's high variance. Maybe this is his week or maybe it's another 4-29 week.

 

[Chaka]

FFPC scoring:
Need a final flex:

R.Doubbs vs SF
Q.Johnston vs BALT

I'm riding Johnston's hot hand in a great matchup.

 

[stinkbait]

1 pt every 25 yds passing/1 pt every 3 completions/4 pt passing TD's/6 pt rushing TD's/5 pt bonus for 300 yds passing
Mayfield @ Giants
Nix @ Raiders
TIA

 

[Chaka]

1 pt every 25 yds passing/1 pt every 3 completions/4 pt passing TD's/6 pt rushing TD's/5 pt bonus for 300 yds passing
Mayfield @ Giants
Nix @ Raiders
TIA

I'm going with Baker. He throws more often and finds the end zone more often. It's a plus matchup and he gets Mike Evans back.

It's also not some hated rivalry game where occasionally the lesser team digs deep for the upset.

 

[Mookie]

1 pt/25yds passing, 1 pt/10 yds rushing. All TDs 6 pts.

Kyler Murray @ Seattle
Bo Nix @ Las Vegas

Thanks

 

[Chaka]

1 pt/25yds passing, 1 pt/10 yds rushing. All TDs 6 pts.

Kyler Murray @ Seattle
Bo Nix @ Las Vegas

Thanks

I can totally see going with Nix but I would roll with Kyler. He's just much more dynamic.

 

[BlackCrowes]

0.5 PPR

Pick 2:
Devonta Smith at Rams
Josh Downs vs Lions
Chuba Hubbard vs Chiefs
Jauan Jennings at Packers

Jennings is close to a smash start for me at this point. Probably Smith slightly over Hubbard.

 

[kyoun1e]

PPR league. Redraft. Curious who is the best RB bench stash?

* T. Spears -- Great schedule down the stretch, but he's in concussion protocol.

* R. Mostert -- Lot of talk J. Wright has taken over #2. Find that hard to believe. May have a hip injury.

* C. Akers -- Two consecutive games with 10+ touches. A. Jones not always a picture of health.

Which?

Thanks

 

[Chaka]

PPR league. Redraft. Curious who is the best RB bench stash?

* T. Spears -- Great schedule down the stretch, but he's in concussion protocol.

* R. Mostert -- Lot of talk J. Wright has taken over #2. Find that hard to believe. May have a hip injury.

* C. Akers -- Two consecutive games with 10+ touches. A. Jones not always a picture of health.

Which?

Thanks

I lean Akers simply because he's on a much better team that should be playing for something through week 18.

Spears after that because of the schedule.

Least interested in Mostert. Not because of Wright rather I think he may not be that good anymore.

 

[Rubi]

Here's two:
FFPC scoring:

TEAM A:
J.Goff @ IND
B.Nix @ LAV

TEAM B:
J.Goff @ IND
K.Murray @ SEA

 

[djjosee]

Standard:

X Worthy @ CAR
Waddle v NE

Thx

 

[BlackCrowes]

Standard:

X Worthy @ CAR
Waddle v NE

Thx

Worthy

Waddle is droppable

 

[Timmay]

PPR league. Redraft. Curious who is the best RB bench stash?

* T. Spears -- Great schedule down the stretch, but he's in concussion protocol.

* R. Mostert -- Lot of talk J. Wright has taken over #2. Find that hard to believe. May have a hip injury.

* C. Akers -- Two consecutive games with 10+ touches. A. Jones not always a picture of health.

Which?

Thanks

I like Akers here. Seems to be trending up with in the last 2 games and Jones has been given more breaks throughout the games. I think the Vikings are concerned with Jones workload. Also, when they can they might give Akers more opportunities to see what he can do for 2025 while Jones in a FA in 2025. Mostert worries me in a crowded backfield and Spears while I liked him before the season started and he has shown flashes the Titans are a mess and this is Pollard backfield.

Here's two:
FFPC scoring:

TEAM A:
J.Goff @ IND
B.Nix @ LAV

TEAM B:
J.Goff @ IND
K.Murray @ SEA

These are tough. I think the safe floor is Goff in both leagues, but if you are the underdog and need a boom or bust type play, I would go with Nix and Murray.

Standard:

X Worthy @ CAR
Waddle v NE

Thx

Waddle, but I don't love it. I am banking on the fact that Gonzalez will cover Tyreek and leave Waddle taking on a weak NE secondary behind Gonzalez.

 

[Brantleydub]

.5 PPR

Jeudy vs PITT
Moore vs Minn.
Meyers vs DEN

 

[Sir Psycho]

Chuba Hubbard vs KC
JTaylor vs Det

 

[Chaka]

Here's two:
FFPC scoring:

TEAM A:
J.Goff @ IND
B.Nix @ LAV

TEAM B:
J.Goff @ IND
K.Murray @ SEA

I think I lean Goff in the first because he has been just a bit more consistent over the season, even before his big game last week. But I think you're good with either.

You're good with either in your second choice but I lean Murray because more of the Cardinals offense runs through him than the Lions runs through Goff.

 

[Chaka]

Standard:

X Worthy @ CAR
Waddle v NE

Thx

Ugh. I guess Worthy because of last week and maybe it's a sign of things to come and I'm also tired of waiting on Waddle.

 

[Chaka]

.5 PPR

Jeudy vs PITT
Moore vs Minn.
Meyers vs DEN

Tough one and, ultimately, it is just a gut call.

To me, Moore is the best player of the bunch and has, by far, the best matchup.

 

[Chaka]

Chuba Hubbard vs KC
JTaylor vs Det

Considering they both have very tough matchups I'm going with Taylor. Hubbard has been great but Taylor, when he hits is in a class with the very best.

 

[1320kid]

Full PPR

TE
Kraft vs 49ers
LaPorta @ IND (FWIW I also own and will be starting Monty)

Flex
Waddle vs Pats
Warren @ CLE
Pierce vs DET

Could also get crazy and flex the TE I don't start in my TE spot.

Well they both have a floor of zero so... I guess I go with LaPorta under the assumption the Lions will score more points so he will have more opps to score a TD.

Waddle will eventually have a big game but how many will he cost you chasing that? I think he has the highest ceiling of the bunch so if that is important you should consider him.

Otherwise I am an unabashed fan of Warren. He just had 13 opportunities (four targets) in a tight game with Baltimore and I expect that share of opportunities to continue on the short week. He also has big play upside.

Pierce is all about the big play and Richardson isn't shy about putting up deep balls but, I can't trust AR at QB and I hate relying on big plays to salvage days. Unlike Waddle I don't think Pierce has 8-10 target upside. Waddle hasn't had that this year either but this offense is starting to roll a little bit and I think we are seeing them start to round into 2023 form.

Warren>Waddle>Pierce

Warren was scooped up off waivers by the guy with priorty right in front of me.

I just traded Shakir for Downs straight up. I actually have never started Shakir once this year with London, Lamb and Smith as my top 3 options. So this is more a fill in this week since Shakir is also on bye. Hell, Downs is outscoring Smith so he could be my WR3 going forward even.

Downs > Waddle no brainer right?

 

[Chaka]

Full PPR

TE
Kraft vs 49ers
LaPorta @ IND (FWIW I also own and will be starting Monty)

Flex
Waddle vs Pats
Warren @ CLE
Pierce vs DET

Could also get crazy and flex the TE I don't start in my TE spot.

Well they both have a floor of zero so... I guess I go with LaPorta under the assumption the Lions will score more points so he will have more opps to score a TD.

Waddle will eventually have a big game but how many will he cost you chasing that? I think he has the highest ceiling of the bunch so if that is important you should consider him.

Otherwise I am an unabashed fan of Warren. He just had 13 opportunities (four targets) in a tight game with Baltimore and I expect that share of opportunities to continue on the short week. He also has big play upside.

Pierce is all about the big play and Richardson isn't shy about putting up deep balls but, I can't trust AR at QB and I hate relying on big plays to salvage days. Unlike Waddle I don't think Pierce has 8-10 target upside. Waddle hasn't had that this year either but this offense is starting to roll a little bit and I think we are seeing them start to round into 2023 form.

Warren>Waddle>Pierce

Warren was scooped up off waivers by the guy with priorty right in front of me.

I just traded Shakir for Downs straight up. I actually have never started Shakir once this year with London, Lamb and Smith as my top 3 options. So this is more a fill in this week since Shakir is also on bye. Hell, Downs is outscoring Smith so he could be my WR3 going forward even.

Downs > Waddle no brainer right?

Agree. Bottom line is Downs plays well with AR and that game is far more likely to put pressure on the Colts to keep up that the Pats will on the Dolphins. ON PAPER.

 

[1320kid]

Full PPR

TE
Kraft vs 49ers
LaPorta @ IND (FWIW I also own and will be starting Monty)

Flex
Waddle vs Pats
Warren @ CLE
Pierce vs DET

Could also get crazy and flex the TE I don't start in my TE spot.

Well they both have a floor of zero so... I guess I go with LaPorta under the assumption the Lions will score more points so he will have more opps to score a TD.

Waddle will eventually have a big game but how many will he cost you chasing that? I think he has the highest ceiling of the bunch so if that is important you should consider him.

Otherwise I am an unabashed fan of Warren. He just had 13 opportunities (four targets) in a tight game with Baltimore and I expect that share of opportunities to continue on the short week. He also has big play upside.

Pierce is all about the big play and Richardson isn't shy about putting up deep balls but, I can't trust AR at QB and I hate relying on big plays to salvage days. Unlike Waddle I don't think Pierce has 8-10 target upside. Waddle hasn't had that this year either but this offense is starting to roll a little bit and I think we are seeing them start to round into 2023 form.

Warren>Waddle>Pierce

Warren was scooped up off waivers by the guy with priorty right in front of me.

I just traded Shakir for Downs straight up. I actually have never started Shakir once this year with London, Lamb and Smith as my top 3 options. So this is more a fill in this week since Shakir is also on bye. Hell, Downs is outscoring Smith so he could be my WR3 going forward even.

Downs > Waddle no brainer right?

Agree. Bottom line is Downs plays well with AR and that game is far more likely to put pressure on the Colts to keep up that the Pats will on the Dolphins. ON PAPER.

What is funny is if you check Waddles history against the Pats, he has scored a TD every game against them at home going back to 2021. Watch him get one on my bench this week LOL.

 

[Chaka]

Full PPR

TE
Kraft vs 49ers
LaPorta @ IND (FWIW I also own and will be starting Monty)

Flex
Waddle vs Pats
Warren @ CLE
Pierce vs DET

Could also get crazy and flex the TE I don't start in my TE spot.

Well they both have a floor of zero so... I guess I go with LaPorta under the assumption the Lions will score more points so he will have more opps to score a TD.

Waddle will eventually have a big game but how many will he cost you chasing that? I think he has the highest ceiling of the bunch so if that is important you should consider him.

Otherwise I am an unabashed fan of Warren. He just had 13 opportunities (four targets) in a tight game with Baltimore and I expect that share of opportunities to continue on the short week. He also has big play upside.

Pierce is all about the big play and Richardson isn't shy about putting up deep balls but, I can't trust AR at QB and I hate relying on big plays to salvage days. Unlike Waddle I don't think Pierce has 8-10 target upside. Waddle hasn't had that this year either but this offense is starting to roll a little bit and I think we are seeing them start to round into 2023 form.

Warren>Waddle>Pierce

Warren was scooped up off waivers by the guy with priorty right in front of me.

I just traded Shakir for Downs straight up. I actually have never started Shakir once this year with London, Lamb and Smith as my top 3 options. So this is more a fill in this week since Shakir is also on bye. Hell, Downs is outscoring Smith so he could be my WR3 going forward even.

Downs > Waddle no brainer right?

Agree. Bottom line is Downs plays well with AR and that game is far more likely to put pressure on the Colts to keep up that the Pats will on the Dolphins. ON PAPER.

What is funny is if you check Waddles history against the Pats, he has scored a TD every game against them at home going back to 2021. Watch him get one on my bench this week LOL.

Like I said in my first post, you know he is going to have a big game at some point. This certainly could be the week with a lesser opponent and the offense starting to hit it's stride. I do think he has a lot of upside. If you were still dealing with Pierce as your only option I would definitely go with Waddle. But Downs has been pretty darn good this year. Since he came back in week three he has had two down games and one of those was his first game back. He's been good enough that I wouldn't regret starting him over Waddle even if this is Waddle's breakout game.