Week 6 Waiver Wire Pickups (1 Viewer)

[Buck Bradcanon]

which tight end would you rather have this year? Heath Miller or Jared Cook? .5 ppr. reason I ask is miller is on waivers

For me? Miller and it's not even close... Ben LOVES Heath and when he's on the field he's Ben's go to guy in tough situations. Bradford has no allegiance to Cook and has been looking more towards Kendricks than Cook. Cook is a far superior talent to Miller, but his QBs trust and consistency isn't something we can ignore when it comes to a receiver in fantasy.

Miller by a landslide. Hard to believe but Heath finished as TE4 last year with 8 TDs.

 

[Stompin' Tom Connors]

keenan allen after he goes off tonight on SNF2

BOOM!

Great call, and agree he's worth a waiver look, but my worry about Allen is consistency. Seems there are positive signs -- he leads all receivers in rec yd, but Gates is the #1 receiving option and we've seen other guys be serviceable -- Royal and Woodhead, specifically. He's also 5th in overall targets.

Feels like Allen is among a few other WRs who we'd be just chasing points -- Nate Washington, Hill/Holmes/Kerley, Givens/Pettis/Austin, Moore/Streater to name just a few.

Can see using him as a bye week plug-in against weaker pass Ds -- and debatable whether the Colts this coming weekend are one of those as they've played pretty well so far (though against some middling pass offenses).

 

[kd1]

Andre Ellington - Mark my words... in 3-4 weeks he's going to be one of those FA adds that ends up winning a lot of people championships.

Um, no. Mark my words, he won't be winning anybody championships. The Arizona Cardinals RB simply does not hold the kind of fantasy value that you are touting. Is he talented? Maybe. That doesn't mean he is going to have any realistic chance of reeling off monster game after monster game.

 

[just_want_2_win]

keenan allen after he goes off tonight on SNF2

BOOM!

Great call, and agree he's worth a waiver look, but my worry about Allen is consistency. Seems there are positive signs -- he leads all receivers in rec yd, but Gates is the #1 receiving option and we've seen other guys be serviceable -- Royal and Woodhead, specifically. He's also 5th in overall targets.

Feels like Allen is among a few other WRs who we'd be just chasing points -- Nate Washington, Hill/Holmes/Kerley, Givens/Pettis/Austin, Moore/Streater to name just a few.

Can see using him as a bye week plug-in against weaker pass Ds -- and debatable whether the Colts this coming weekend are one of those as they've played pretty well so far (though against some middling pass offenses).

Good post.

One thing now is that Allen's had two straight good weeks. That's enough for me to grab him if I can. I'm learning the hard way to start trying to grab these sort of breakout guys right away early before everyone wants them and they become costly to acquire. I'd rather see them flop after I've gotten them rather than be kicking myself for not even trying though I had been tracking them for a couple weeks. That's happened to me already this year with the KC D and Julius Thomas. In the past I didn't get Cam, either, due to skepticism. It seems although I've been grabbing lots of upside guys this year off the WW or in the draft (Garcon, Graham, Cameron, Gordon) the two I've let slip through my fingers are the ones coming back to haunt me.

I correctly didn't pick up Royal and that indeed turned out to be a fluke, but from now on if someone seems to be coming on, I'm getting them and I'll worry about analyzing the situation more later.

 

[Khy]

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/snapcounts

ARI (weeks 1-4): 262 off. snaps

Roberts:172 (66%)

Mendy: 135 (52%)

Ellington: 73 (28%)

Weekly: @STL vsDET @NO @TB

Roberts: 72% 75% 53% 60%

Mendy: 49% 51% 40% 66%

Ellington: 11% 25% 47% 32%

Week 5 numbers will be added on Tuesday, I think.

Early Week 5 reports were that Ellington and Mendy both split snaps this week even.

Andre Ellington - Mark my words... in 3-4 weeks he's going to be one of those FA adds that ends up winning a lot of people championships.

Um, no. Mark my words, he won't be winning anybody championships. The Arizona Cardinals RB simply does not hold the kind of fantasy value that you are touting. Is he talented? Maybe. That doesn't mean he is going to have any realistic chance of reeling off monster game after monster game.

Come again? He doesn't have any realistic chance?

In 11 touches of the ball this week he posted up 83 yards at 7.54 yards per touch. That's ridiculous. Last week on 7 touches, 51 yards at 7.28 yards per touch. Week 3 on 6 touches for 55 yards at 9.16 yards per touch. Week 2 on 6 touches for 62 yards at 10.33 yards per touch.

So please, explain to me how the guy whose literally averaging 8.51 yards every time he gets his hand on the ball doesn't have any realistic chance of pulling off monster games. I'd be really delighted to hear this analysis. What could he do with 15 touches every week? Is I don't know... 15 touches, 105 yards at 7 yards per touch and a TD reasonable? I think it is from what we've seen.

 

[DocHolliday]

keenan allen after he goes off tonight on SNF2

BOOM!

Great call, and agree he's worth a waiver look, but my worry about Allen is consistency. Seems there are positive signs -- he leads all receivers in rec yd, but Gates is the #1 receiving option and we've seen other guys be serviceable -- Royal and Woodhead, specifically. He's also 5th in overall targets.

Feels like Allen is among a few other WRs who we'd be just chasing points -- Nate Washington, Hill/Holmes/Kerley, Givens/Pettis/Austin, Moore/Streater to name just a few.

Can see using him as a bye week plug-in against weaker pass Ds -- and debatable whether the Colts this coming weekend are one of those as they've played pretty well so far (though against some middling pass offenses).

Good post.

One thing now is that Allen's had two straight good weeks. That's enough for me to grab him if I can. I'm learning the hard way to start trying to grab these sort of breakout guys right away early before everyone wants them and they become costly to acquire. I'd rather see them flop after I've gotten them rather than be kicking myself for not even trying though I had been tracking them for a couple weeks. That's happened to me already this year with the KC D and Julius Thomas. In the past I didn't get Cam, either, due to skepticism. It seems although I've been grabbing lots of upside guys this year off the WW or in the draft (Garcon, Graham, Cameron, Gordon) the two I've let slip through my fingers are the ones coming back to haunt me.

I correctly didn't pick up Royal and that indeed turned out to be a fluke, but from now on if someone seems to be coming on, I'm getting them and I'll worry about analyzing the situation more later.

It is taking some risk to grab a rookie WR after only 2 games but there is upside. Allen is taking over Floyd"s position. It is not like he only plays on 3 WR sets or something. Allen is worth the risk to me with Rivers slinging the ball so much.

 

[kd1]

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/snapcounts

ARI (weeks 1-4): 262 off. snaps

Roberts:172 (66%)

Mendy: 135 (52%)

Ellington: 73 (28%)

Weekly: @STL vsDET @NO @TB

Roberts: 72% 75% 53% 60%

Mendy: 49% 51% 40% 66%

Ellington: 11% 25% 47% 32%

Week 5 numbers will be added on Tuesday, I think.

Early Week 5 reports were that Ellington and Mendy both split snaps this week even.

Andre Ellington - Mark my words... in 3-4 weeks he's going to be one of those FA adds that ends up winning a lot of people championships.

Um, no. Mark my words, he won't be winning anybody championships. The Arizona Cardinals RB simply does not hold the kind of fantasy value that you are touting. Is he talented? Maybe. That doesn't mean he is going to have any realistic chance of reeling off monster game after monster game.

Come again? He doesn't have any realistic chance?

In 11 touches of the ball this week he posted up 83 yards at 7.54 yards per touch. That's ridiculous. Last week on 7 touches, 51 yards at 7.28 yards per touch. Week 3 on 6 touches for 55 yards at 9.16 yards per touch. Week 2 on 6 touches for 62 yards at 10.33 yards per touch.

So please, explain to me how the guy whose literally averaging 8.51 yards every time he gets his hand on the ball doesn't have any realistic chance of pulling off monster games. I'd be really delighted to hear this analysis. What could he do with 15 touches every week? Is I don't know... 15 touches, 105 yards at 7 yards per touch and a TD reasonable? I think it is from what we've seen.

There's nothing to explain to you. He's in the Zona backfield. He's not going to be "winning everybody championships".

Also, extrapolating his yards per touch in this sample size into a full-load weekly scenario is insane.

Rather than you attempting to get into a pissing contest because you're a biased Ellington owner who can't see the forest for the trees, how about you PM me and we come up with some sort of financial wager? No use in derailing this thread for you to spout out anymore silly Ellington stats.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

keenan allen after he goes off tonight on SNF2

BOOM!

Great call, and agree he's worth a waiver look, but my worry about Allen is consistency. Seems there are positive signs -- he leads all receivers in rec yd, but Gates is the #1 receiving option and we've seen other guys be serviceable -- Royal and Woodhead, specifically. He's also 5th in overall targets.

Feels like Allen is among a few other WRs who we'd be just chasing points -- Nate Washington, Hill/Holmes/Kerley, Givens/Pettis/Austin, Moore/Streater to name just a few.

Can see using him as a bye week plug-in against weaker pass Ds -- and debatable whether the Colts this coming weekend are one of those as they've played pretty well so far (though against some middling pass offenses).

Hes only 5th in overall target because Malcolm FLoyd played his position for the first 2 games

 

[Khy]

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/snapcounts

ARI (weeks 1-4): 262 off. snaps

Roberts:172 (66%)

Mendy: 135 (52%)

Ellington: 73 (28%)

Weekly: @STL vsDET @NO @TB

Roberts: 72% 75% 53% 60%

Mendy: 49% 51% 40% 66%

Ellington: 11% 25% 47% 32%

Week 5 numbers will be added on Tuesday, I think.

Early Week 5 reports were that Ellington and Mendy both split snaps this week even.

Andre Ellington - Mark my words... in 3-4 weeks he's going to be one of those FA adds that ends up winning a lot of people championships.

Um, no. Mark my words, he won't be winning anybody championships. The Arizona Cardinals RB simply does not hold the kind of fantasy value that you are touting. Is he talented? Maybe. That doesn't mean he is going to have any realistic chance of reeling off monster game after monster game.

Come again? He doesn't have any realistic chance?

In 11 touches of the ball this week he posted up 83 yards at 7.54 yards per touch. That's ridiculous. Last week on 7 touches, 51 yards at 7.28 yards per touch. Week 3 on 6 touches for 55 yards at 9.16 yards per touch. Week 2 on 6 touches for 62 yards at 10.33 yards per touch.

So please, explain to me how the guy whose literally averaging 8.51 yards every time he gets his hand on the ball doesn't have any realistic chance of pulling off monster games. I'd be really delighted to hear this analysis. What could he do with 15 touches every week? Is I don't know... 15 touches, 105 yards at 7 yards per touch and a TD reasonable? I think it is from what we've seen.

There's nothing to explain to you. He's in the Zona backfield. He's not going to be "winning everybody championships".

Also, extrapolating his yards per touch in this sample size into a full-load weekly scenario is insane.

Rather than you attempting to get into a pissing contest because you're a biased Ellington owner who can't see the forest for the trees, how about you PM me and we come up with some sort of financial wager? No use in derailing this thread for you to spout out anymore silly Ellington stats.

Yeah you're right... just ignore everything the kid has shown thus far. Because you said so... seems like a fairly valid argument. I'll see you in 3-4 weeks when the guy is taking his 8-10 point ppr games and making them into 15-20 point ppr games. I bet you said the same thing about Charles in 09' or Hillis in 10'.

 

[Stompin' Tom Connors]

keenan allen after he goes off tonight on SNF2

BOOM!

Great call, and agree he's worth a waiver look, but my worry about Allen is consistency. Seems there are positive signs -- he leads all receivers in rec yd, but Gates is the #1 receiving option and we've seen other guys be serviceable -- Royal and Woodhead, specifically. He's also 5th in overall targets.

Feels like Allen is among a few other WRs who we'd be just chasing points -- Nate Washington, Hill/Holmes/Kerley, Givens/Pettis/Austin, Moore/Streater to name just a few.

Can see using him as a bye week plug-in against weaker pass Ds -- and debatable whether the Colts this coming weekend are one of those as they've played pretty well so far (though against some middling pass offenses).

Good post.

One thing now is that Allen's had two straight good weeks. That's enough for me to grab him if I can. I'm learning the hard way to start trying to grab these sort of breakout guys right away early before everyone wants them and they become costly to acquire. I'd rather see them flop after I've gotten them rather than be kicking myself for not even trying though I had been tracking them for a couple weeks. That's happened to me already this year with the KC D and Julius Thomas. In the past I didn't get Cam, either, due to skepticism. It seems although I've been grabbing lots of upside guys this year off the WW or in the draft (Garcon, Graham, Cameron, Gordon) the two I've let slip through my fingers are the ones coming back to haunt me.

I correctly didn't pick up Royal and that indeed turned out to be a fluke, but from now on if someone seems to be coming on, I'm getting them and I'll worry about analyzing the situation more later.

Valid -- if you can afford to grab a guy like Allen and hold for the next few weeks to see if a trend solidifies, absolutely nothing wrong with it. You are correct that you can miss out on true game-changers off the wire if you don't react.

My approach is to also look for some degree of consistency -- Allen hasGood l this given his two game streak and the fact that Rivers has played well this year and the SD passing O can click. In my league, you usually can't burn more than one roster slot on a hopeful chance, so would rather save it for a guy with more of a shot to contribute after injury (Vereen, Harvin), or a guy who can be a steady performer with a shot due to injury or change in dynamics (Stacy, Rodgers, Foles, Reece -- even Freeman).

That said, I can't blame you for targeting Allen's upside in a week where ww selection is pretty thin to begin with, and wit more byes coming up.

 

[kd1]

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/snapcounts

ARI (weeks 1-4): 262 off. snaps

Roberts:172 (66%)

Mendy: 135 (52%)

Ellington: 73 (28%)

Weekly: @STL vsDET @NO @TB

Roberts: 72% 75% 53% 60%

Mendy: 49% 51% 40% 66%

Ellington: 11% 25% 47% 32%

Week 5 numbers will be added on Tuesday, I think.

Early Week 5 reports were that Ellington and Mendy both split snaps this week even.

Andre Ellington - Mark my words... in 3-4 weeks he's going to be one of those FA adds that ends up winning a lot of people championships.

Um, no. Mark my words, he won't be winning anybody championships. The Arizona Cardinals RB simply does not hold the kind of fantasy value that you are touting. Is he talented? Maybe. That doesn't mean he is going to have any realistic chance of reeling off monster game after monster game.

Come again? He doesn't have any realistic chance?

In 11 touches of the ball this week he posted up 83 yards at 7.54 yards per touch. That's ridiculous. Last week on 7 touches, 51 yards at 7.28 yards per touch. Week 3 on 6 touches for 55 yards at 9.16 yards per touch. Week 2 on 6 touches for 62 yards at 10.33 yards per touch.

So please, explain to me how the guy whose literally averaging 8.51 yards every time he gets his hand on the ball doesn't have any realistic chance of pulling off monster games. I'd be really delighted to hear this analysis. What could he do with 15 touches every week? Is I don't know... 15 touches, 105 yards at 7 yards per touch and a TD reasonable? I think it is from what we've seen.

There's nothing to explain to you. He's in the Zona backfield. He's not going to be "winning everybody championships".

Also, extrapolating his yards per touch in this sample size into a full-load weekly scenario is insane.

Rather than you attempting to get into a pissing contest because you're a biased Ellington owner who can't see the forest for the trees, how about you PM me and we come up with some sort of financial wager? No use in derailing this thread for you to spout out anymore silly Ellington stats.

Yeah you're right... just ignore everything the kid has shown thus far. Because you said so... seems like a fairly valid argument. I'll see you in 3-4 weeks when the guy is taking his 8-10 point ppr games and making them into 15-20 point ppr games. I bet you said the same thing about Charles in 09' or Hillis in 10'.

Ok, but fyi, you look silly spouting this off and ignoring my request to PM me regarding betting on it. Good luck. Check back in with us after the season after Andre Ellington wins you all them rings.

 

[Tanner9919]

has to be Donald Brown,who is doing so much with so little..

he's badly outplaying T. Richardson and doing so on far fewer carries..at some point, Brown deserves to have a larger role in that offense..

Reece

D. Moore, Jefferey, Vincent Brown if available.

 

[djjosee]

Ready to drop Bowe and Hartline for 90% of the people on this thread!

 

[socrates]

As a preemptive RB pickup, I will throw out Jordan Todman. Not sure if there is any substance behind the MJD trade rumors, but if he exits, Todman (or Forsett?) certainly gets an uptick.

 

[Khy]

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/snapcounts

ARI (weeks 1-4): 262 off. snaps

Roberts:172 (66%)

Mendy: 135 (52%)

Ellington: 73 (28%)

Weekly: @STL vsDET @NO @TB

Roberts: 72% 75% 53% 60%

Mendy: 49% 51% 40% 66%

Ellington: 11% 25% 47% 32%

Week 5 numbers will be added on Tuesday, I think.

Early Week 5 reports were that Ellington and Mendy both split snaps this week even.

Andre Ellington - Mark my words... in 3-4 weeks he's going to be one of those FA adds that ends up winning a lot of people championships.

Um, no. Mark my words, he won't be winning anybody championships. The Arizona Cardinals RB simply does not hold the kind of fantasy value that you are touting. Is he talented? Maybe. That doesn't mean he is going to have any realistic chance of reeling off monster game after monster game.

Come again? He doesn't have any realistic chance?

In 11 touches of the ball this week he posted up 83 yards at 7.54 yards per touch. That's ridiculous. Last week on 7 touches, 51 yards at 7.28 yards per touch. Week 3 on 6 touches for 55 yards at 9.16 yards per touch. Week 2 on 6 touches for 62 yards at 10.33 yards per touch.

So please, explain to me how the guy whose literally averaging 8.51 yards every time he gets his hand on the ball doesn't have any realistic chance of pulling off monster games. I'd be really delighted to hear this analysis. What could he do with 15 touches every week? Is I don't know... 15 touches, 105 yards at 7 yards per touch and a TD reasonable? I think it is from what we've seen.

There's nothing to explain to you. He's in the Zona backfield. He's not going to be "winning everybody championships".

Also, extrapolating his yards per touch in this sample size into a full-load weekly scenario is insane.

Rather than you attempting to get into a pissing contest because you're a biased Ellington owner who can't see the forest for the trees, how about you PM me and we come up with some sort of financial wager? No use in derailing this thread for you to spout out anymore silly Ellington stats.

Yeah you're right... just ignore everything the kid has shown thus far. Because you said so... seems like a fairly valid argument. I'll see you in 3-4 weeks when the guy is taking his 8-10 point ppr games and making them into 15-20 point ppr games. I bet you said the same thing about Charles in 09' or Hillis in 10'.

Ok, but fyi, you look silly spouting this off and ignoring my request to PM me regarding betting on it. Good luck. Check back in with us after the season after Andre Ellington wins you all them rings.

Right... I look silly pointing out stats and game situations as to why I believe a player's about to really come on. You don't look silly at all for just saying:

"HAHAHAHHAA NO HE ISN'T YOU BIG STUPID"

 

[zamboni]

RE: Keenan Allen

In the past, I would be hesitant to chase after rookie WRs, but in recent years, we see time and again that rookie WRs can make an immediate impact. Not sure if the two-week trend is a mirage or sign of things to come, but what's the harm in dropping some excess trash off your roster to get him?

 

[MarcO]

Andre Brown - before the chatter starts up.

 

[Annyong]

As a preemptive RB pickup, I will throw out Jordan Todman. Not sure if there is any substance behind the MJD trade rumors, but if he exits, Todman (or Forsett?) certainly gets an uptick.

What rumors have you heard? MJD getting traded would be great.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Redraft I'd like Foles better if he weren't going against the Bucs next week. The pass D there has been solid. The Cowboys and Giants the following two weeks would be nice, but it's not sure he'll be starting that long.

 

[humpback]

As a preemptive RB pickup, I will throw out Jordan Todman. Not sure if there is any substance behind the MJD trade rumors, but if he exits, Todman (or Forsett?) certainly gets an uptick.

Sure, but you'd have to be beyond desperate to start one of those guys.

 

[thehornet]

has to be Donald Brown,who is doing so much with so little..

he's badly outplaying T. Richardson and doing so on far fewer carries..at some point, Brown deserves to have a larger role in that offense..

Reece

D. Moore, Jefferey, Vincent Brown if available.

brown is a backup who's gonna get a couple carries and a catch or two. his role isn't expanding.

 

[just_want_2_win]

Kind of a thin week compared with the previous ones and many of the guys I'm listing might be rostered:

Foles

Alshon Jeffery if he's still on your WW. (not in any of my leagues)

Zak Stacy

Blount

Boldin

Pettis

Pryor

Hill

Fitzpatrick (next two games are ugly - SEA, SF)

Helu

J. Simpson

Clay

Randle

T. Williams

Heath Miller

Harvin (he claimed he'll be back in week 7...seeing more like around Thanksgiving)

Speaking of Harvin, here's the latest on him for those contemplating grabbing him off waivers this week:

Percy Harvin (hip surgery) resumed running last week.
Harvin has been in New York rehabbing since going under the knife on August 1. He finally starting running last week and is making his way back to Seattle this week. Harvin is eligible to come off PUP for Week 7, but there are no signs he'll be ready then. Initial estimations put the recovery timeline at 3-4 months, meaning Week 9 or 10 would be a best-case scenario. We'll know more on Harvin's status once the Seahawks get a look at him.

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/5197/percy-harvin

 

[dollar demons]

Would you guys drop J Bell for L Bell? I don't own Reggie Bush.

Other RBs are Forte, Murray and Bernard.

 

[Khy]

has to be Donald Brown,who is doing so much with so little..

he's badly outplaying T. Richardson and doing so on far fewer carries..at some point, Brown deserves to have a larger role in that offense..

Reece

D. Moore, Jefferey, Vincent Brown if available.

brown is a backup who's gonna get a couple carries and a catch or two. his role isn't expanding.

As much as it hurts to me to say this as I have never been a believer in Donald Brown. Brown has looked better than Richardson so far this season. If Richardson were to go down Brown could become an immediate RB2.

 

[thehornet]

has to be Donald Brown,who is doing so much with so little..

he's badly outplaying T. Richardson and doing so on far fewer carries..at some point, Brown deserves to have a larger role in that offense..

Reece

D. Moore, Jefferey, Vincent Brown if available.

brown is a backup who's gonna get a couple carries and a catch or two. his role isn't expanding.

As much as it hurts to me to say this as I have never been a believer in Donald Brown. Brown has looked better than Richardson so far this season. If Richardson were to go down Brown could become an immediate RB2.

no he wouldn't man. brown comes in on 3rd downs most of the time. think about it. lots of guys have a nice ypc or catch ability on 3rd downs because they are facing significantly different defensive sets. we know who brown is.

 

[ryno1980]

As a preemptive RB pickup, I will throw out Jordan Todman. Not sure if there is any substance behind the MJD trade rumors, but if he exits, Todman (or Forsett?) certainly gets an uptick.

Sure, but you'd have to be beyond desperate to start one of those guys.

For those of u in 24-team leagues...

 

[kd1]

has to be Donald Brown,who is doing so much with so little..

he's badly outplaying T. Richardson and doing so on far fewer carries..at some point, Brown deserves to have a larger role in that offense..

Reece

D. Moore, Jefferey, Vincent Brown if available.

brown is a backup who's gonna get a couple carries and a catch or two. his role isn't expanding.

As much as it hurts to me to say this as I have never been a believer in Donald Brown. Brown has looked better than Richardson so far this season. If Richardson were to go down Brown could become an immediate RB2.

no he wouldn't man. brown comes in on 3rd downs most of the time. think about it. lots of guys have a nice ypc or catch ability on 3rd downs because they are facing significantly different defensive sets. we know who brown is.

don't try to talk sense into that guy.

he's gonna be riding brown and ellington to rings.

 

[socrates]

As a preemptive RB pickup, I will throw out Jordan Todman. Not sure if there is any substance behind the MJD trade rumors, but if he exits, Todman (or Forsett?) certainly gets an uptick.

What rumors have you heard? MJD getting traded would be great.

As I say, I have merely read rumors, and to my knowledge, none of those has any real substance to them. To some, the trade of LT Eugene Monroe may have signaled the beginnings of a firesale in Jacksonville, and that likely spurned the trade rumors.

http://www.thepigskinreport.com/2013/10/nfl-rumors-will-the-san-diego-chargers-trade-for-rb-maurice-jones-drew/

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/playerbreakingnews.asp?sport=NFL&id=3596&line=272045&spln=1

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1796809-should-the-jaguars-trade-maurice-jones-drew-as-part-of-2013-fire-sale

The likely reality is, MJD is not going anywhere this season. In fact, Dave Caldwell said as much.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/jaguars/2013/10/03/dave-caldwell-maurice-jones-drew-paul-posluszny-no-trade/2917863/

Nevertheless, this situation warrants monitoring, and if any more substantial news were to surface, RB-starved teams might even consider Todman.

As a preemptive RB pickup, I will throw out Jordan Todman. Not sure if there is any substance behind the MJD trade rumors, but if he exits, Todman (or Forsett?) certainly gets an uptick.

Sure, but you'd have to be beyond desperate to start one of those guys.

True, but with bye weeks and injuries, there are a few of us who are desperate enough at RB to consider whatever leftovers are out there, and a potential starting RB has some value, even if he plays for Jacksonville.

 

[nb009]

Would you guys drop J Bell for L Bell? I don't own Reggie Bush.

Other RBs are Forte, Murray and Bernard.

In a heartbeat dude.

 

[Black]

Seconding Reece, Jennings got a hammy

Reece @KC, then BYE. Might not be worth the pickup. His playoff schedule is horrible also: @NYJ, KC, @SD (SD good vs. Run).

 

[fantasycurse42]

Would you guys drop J Bell for L Bell? I don't own Reggie Bush.

Other RBs are Forte, Murray and Bernard.

In a heartbeat dude.

How is he on the wire? He is a 3 down back - Yes, drop Bell, he is a handcuff.

 

[Captain Hook]

Andre Ellington - Mark my words... in 3-4 weeks he's going to be one of those FA adds that ends up winning a lot of people championships. Every time the kids touched the ball he's looked like the best offensive player on the Cards. Right now he's sitting pretty at 18 carries, 120 yards, 6.7ypc and 13 receptions, 144 yards, 11.1 ypr. He's been a freak and the coaches are really starting to see it.

Ellington should definitely be rostered if he hasn't already, but don't be so sure that the coaching staff will bench Mendenhall as long he is healthy and the team is hanging in there. Don't overestimate a coach's loyalty to his veterans (see Marvin Lewis/BJGE).

Oh sure, I understand that absolutely. The big difference here is how much Arians has been talking about getting Ellington more involved... then actually getting him more involved. He's been making the most of every touch he has gotten and his workload keeps increasing. I haven't been able to find his snap count % yet, it's not up on PFF as of this moment. But I'm sure it's increased. At the very least he got 7 carries this week, his most to this point has been 4.

Sure, we need to see the Cards really bench Mendy but lets face it, Ellington is far and away the best RB on this team. I'd be blown away if Ellington doesn't see at least 10 carries this week (game script permitting obviously).

This seems relevant to the discussion...

Andre Ellington and Rashard Mendenhall each played 30 snaps in Sunday's Week 5 win over the Panthers.


Related: Rashard Mendenhall

Source: Mike Jurecki on Twitter
Oct 7 - 10:24 AM

Week 1: 11% of snaps

Week 2: 28% of snaps

Week 3: 46% of snaps

Week 4: 30% of snaps

Week 5: 50% of snaps

His snaps seems to be steadily increasing week to week. This week him and Mendy were in a full time share. Who knows... next week could be 55/45 in favor of Ellington. There's zero reason to not keep giving Ellington some more carries to see what he does with him. It may not be this week or next week. But as I said, in 3-4 weeks he could be getting the majority of the work.

Thinking 2009 Jamaal Charles here... starting his firs 7 games with almost nothing in terms of opportunity. Then he took over and exploded for the second half of the season.

Ellington First 5 games: 18 carries, 120 yards, 6.7ypc - 13 receptions, 144 yards, 11.1 ypr

Charles First 5 games: 19 carries, 83 yards, 4.36ypc - 13 receptions, 119 yards, 9.15 ypr

Hell, he's actually been better than Charles, behind a worse line so far...

Charles final 7 games of the season after taking over as starter?

161 carries, 968 yards, 6.0 ypc, 7 TDs - 23 receptions, 158 yards, 6.86 ypr, 1 TD

It's not very likely that he becomes Charles, but I think their running styles are extremely similar, he's on a better team than Charles was on in 2009, he has a better coach than Charles had in 2009 and his situation is getting better with every week.

NEXT week for Ellington/Cards is @SF so not a great start if gets 60% of the carries and the following week is home vs SEA which might be slightly better - so I agree he should be added (I already did where I could) although I don't see him available in any leagues ... BUT later in the year he could be a nice play

 

[Khy]

Andre Ellington - Mark my words... in 3-4 weeks he's going to be one of those FA adds that ends up winning a lot of people championships. Every time the kids touched the ball he's looked like the best offensive player on the Cards. Right now he's sitting pretty at 18 carries, 120 yards, 6.7ypc and 13 receptions, 144 yards, 11.1 ypr. He's been a freak and the coaches are really starting to see it.

Ellington should definitely be rostered if he hasn't already, but don't be so sure that the coaching staff will bench Mendenhall as long he is healthy and the team is hanging in there. Don't overestimate a coach's loyalty to his veterans (see Marvin Lewis/BJGE).

Oh sure, I understand that absolutely. The big difference here is how much Arians has been talking about getting Ellington more involved... then actually getting him more involved. He's been making the most of every touch he has gotten and his workload keeps increasing. I haven't been able to find his snap count % yet, it's not up on PFF as of this moment. But I'm sure it's increased. At the very least he got 7 carries this week, his most to this point has been 4.

Sure, we need to see the Cards really bench Mendy but lets face it, Ellington is far and away the best RB on this team. I'd be blown away if Ellington doesn't see at least 10 carries this week (game script permitting obviously).

This seems relevant to the discussion...

Andre Ellington and Rashard Mendenhall each played 30 snaps in Sunday's Week 5 win over the Panthers.


Related: Rashard Mendenhall

Source: Mike Jurecki on Twitter
Oct 7 - 10:24 AM

Week 1: 11% of snaps

Week 2: 28% of snaps

Week 3: 46% of snaps

Week 4: 30% of snaps

Week 5: 50% of snaps

His snaps seems to be steadily increasing week to week. This week him and Mendy were in a full time share. Who knows... next week could be 55/45 in favor of Ellington. There's zero reason to not keep giving Ellington some more carries to see what he does with him. It may not be this week or next week. But as I said, in 3-4 weeks he could be getting the majority of the work.

Thinking 2009 Jamaal Charles here... starting his firs 7 games with almost nothing in terms of opportunity. Then he took over and exploded for the second half of the season.

Ellington First 5 games: 18 carries, 120 yards, 6.7ypc - 13 receptions, 144 yards, 11.1 ypr

Charles First 5 games: 19 carries, 83 yards, 4.36ypc - 13 receptions, 119 yards, 9.15 ypr

Hell, he's actually been better than Charles, behind a worse line so far...

Charles final 7 games of the season after taking over as starter?

161 carries, 968 yards, 6.0 ypc, 7 TDs - 23 receptions, 158 yards, 6.86 ypr, 1 TD

It's not very likely that he becomes Charles, but I think their running styles are extremely similar, he's on a better team than Charles was on in 2009, he has a better coach than Charles had in 2009 and his situation is getting better with every week.

NEXT week for Ellington/Cards is @SF so not a great start if gets 60% of the carries and the following week is home vs SEA which might be slightly better - so I agree he should be added (I already did where I could) although I don't see him available in any leagues ... BUT later in the year he could be a nice play

San Fran hasn't been that stout against the run... they've let up

172 yards to Seattle, 184 yards to Indy and 131 yards to Houston. The only teams they really stopped were Green Bay and Saint Louis who both have never really proven to have any type of run game anyway.

 

[Isotopes]

What about Jonathan Stewart? Whatever momentum DWill had established seems to have run its course....he has been productive when healthy in the past. I believe he is a week 7 candidate to play, but there has been very little info on the guy which clouds this for me.

 

[Captain Hook]

Andre Ellington - Mark my words... in 3-4 weeks he's going to be one of those FA adds that ends up winning a lot of people championships. Every time the kids touched the ball he's looked like the best offensive player on the Cards. Right now he's sitting pretty at 18 carries, 120 yards, 6.7ypc and 13 receptions, 144 yards, 11.1 ypr. He's been a freak and the coaches are really starting to see it.

Ellington should definitely be rostered if he hasn't already, but don't be so sure that the coaching staff will bench Mendenhall as long he is healthy and the team is hanging in there. Don't overestimate a coach's loyalty to his veterans (see Marvin Lewis/BJGE).

Oh sure, I understand that absolutely. The big difference here is how much Arians has been talking about getting Ellington more involved... then actually getting him more involved. He's been making the most of every touch he has gotten and his workload keeps increasing. I haven't been able to find his snap count % yet, it's not up on PFF as of this moment. But I'm sure it's increased. At the very least he got 7 carries this week, his most to this point has been 4.

Sure, we need to see the Cards really bench Mendy but lets face it, Ellington is far and away the best RB on this team. I'd be blown away if Ellington doesn't see at least 10 carries this week (game script permitting obviously).

This seems relevant to the discussion...

Andre Ellington and Rashard Mendenhall each played 30 snaps in Sunday's Week 5 win over the Panthers.


Related: Rashard Mendenhall

Source: Mike Jurecki on Twitter
Oct 7 - 10:24 AM

Week 1: 11% of snaps

Week 2: 28% of snaps

Week 3: 46% of snaps

Week 4: 30% of snaps

Week 5: 50% of snaps

His snaps seems to be steadily increasing week to week. This week him and Mendy were in a full time share. Who knows... next week could be 55/45 in favor of Ellington. There's zero reason to not keep giving Ellington some more carries to see what he does with him. It may not be this week or next week. But as I said, in 3-4 weeks he could be getting the majority of the work.

Thinking 2009 Jamaal Charles here... starting his firs 7 games with almost nothing in terms of opportunity. Then he took over and exploded for the second half of the season.

Ellington First 5 games: 18 carries, 120 yards, 6.7ypc - 13 receptions, 144 yards, 11.1 ypr

Charles First 5 games: 19 carries, 83 yards, 4.36ypc - 13 receptions, 119 yards, 9.15 ypr

Hell, he's actually been better than Charles, behind a worse line so far...

Charles final 7 games of the season after taking over as starter?

161 carries, 968 yards, 6.0 ypc, 7 TDs - 23 receptions, 158 yards, 6.86 ypr, 1 TD

It's not very likely that he becomes Charles, but I think their running styles are extremely similar, he's on a better team than Charles was on in 2009, he has a better coach than Charles had in 2009 and his situation is getting better with every week.

NEXT week for Ellington/Cards is @SF so not a great start if gets 60% of the carries and the following week is home vs SEA which might be slightly better - so I agree he should be added (I already did where I could) although I don't see him available in any leagues ... BUT later in the year he could be a nice play

San Fran hasn't been that stout against the run... they've let up

172 yards to Seattle, 184 yards to Indy and 131 yards to Houston. The only teams they really stopped were Green Bay and Saint Louis who both have never really proven to have any type of run game anyway.

Sorry but as much as I like Ellington he is NOT Lynch or Foster or even whomever got those yards for Indy AND you seem to be forgettting that the Cardinals O Line is worse than ALL of the above by a mile

 

[buddhacwru]

With Gabbert out in deep 2 QB leagues Chad Henne is an option. I will likely try to get him as Carson Palmer is doing little for me. Ditto Harvin for deep leagues.

 

[footballguy#1]

What about Jonathan Stewart? Whatever momentum DWill had established seems to have run its course....he has been productive when healthy in the past. I believe he is a week 7 candidate to play, but there has been very little info on the guy which clouds this for me.

Good call, I haven't heard anything lately about his health, but if he comes back soon and healthy, definitely a good one to take a chance on if you have a spot for him. He's available in one of my redrafts so thanks for the reminder.

 

[One]

What about Jonathan Stewart? Whatever momentum DWill had established seems to have run its course....he has been productive when healthy in the past. I believe he is a week 7 candidate to play, but there has been very little info on the guy which clouds this for me.

Stewart has been trying figure out the problem with his ankles for almost a year now and I still haven't heard if he is close to running yet. If I were a betting man, I'd say he gets placed on IR for good. If you have other options, I'd exhaust those. If you're like me and own him in dynasty ...#^$@!

 

[Bobbyn2022]

Ellington plays the 49ers and Seahawks and today rotoworld was reporting he won't be an every down back. If u need a guy who will get you 8-10 points he's ur guys. Personally I target guys who I think can blow up and be a super star. So far Rivers,KC DST,Cameron,Blackmon,Gordon,Harvin...Those are guys I like and have done great.

 

[Tchula]

Ronnie brown as a week or two desperation flex with Matthews having a concussion

 

[bill bates hits hard]

Ellington plays the 49ers and Seahawks and today rotoworld was reporting he won't be an every down back. If u need a guy who will get you 8-10 points he's ur guys. Personally I target guys who I think can blow up and be a super star. So far Rivers,KC DST,Cameron,Blackmon,Gordon,Harvin...Those are guys I like and have done great.

so then who's next Dr. Awesome?

 

[Leroy Hoard]

RE: Keenan Allen

In the past, I would be hesitant to chase after rookie WRs, but in recent years, we see time and again that rookie WRs can make an immediate impact. Not sure if the two-week trend is a mirage or sign of things to come, but what's the harm in dropping some excess trash off your roster to get him?

He is on my waiver list, just a matter of no one else in front of me having the same idea.

 

[BlackMamba24]

how much is Zac Stacy worth in BBID Waivers? (assuming $100 Budget) ?

I have a little over 60 dollars left and thinking about spending more than half of that...

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

What about Jonathan Stewart? Whatever momentum DWill had established seems to have run its course....he has been productive when healthy in the past. I believe he is a week 7 candidate to play, but there has been very little info on the guy which clouds this for me.

Stewart has been trying figure out the problem with his ankles for almost a year now and I still haven't heard if he is close to running yet. If I were a betting man, I'd say he gets placed on IR for good. If you have other options, I'd exhaust those. If you're like me and own him in dynasty ...#^$@!

He's been sprinting on the sidelines during practices and apparently looks good. All reports are that he'll exit PUP following Week 6.

 

[One]

What about Jonathan Stewart? Whatever momentum DWill had established seems to have run its course....he has been productive when healthy in the past. I believe he is a week 7 candidate to play, but there has been very little info on the guy which clouds this for me.

Stewart has been trying figure out the problem with his ankles for almost a year now and I still haven't heard if he is close to running yet. If I were a betting man, I'd say he gets placed on IR for good. If you have other options, I'd exhaust those. If you're like me and own him in dynasty ...#^$@!

He's been sprinting on the sidelines during practices and apparently looks good. All reports are that he'll exit PUP following Week 6.

Good to hear. It's a start.

 

[Don Quixote]

how much is Zac Stacy worth in BBID Waivers? (assuming $100 Budget) ?

I have a little over 60 dollars left and thinking about spending more than half of that...

I would not spend anywhere close to that much. I don't think he has much upside, even as a starter. I'd rather save it in case an injury happens to a RB in a better situation. Bloom has Stacy at 5-10% in his waiver report this week, FWIW.

 

[N Zone]

how much is Zac Stacy worth in BBID Waivers? (assuming $100 Budget) ?

I have a little over 60 dollars left and thinking about spending more than half of that...

I would not spend anywhere close to that much. I don't think he has much upside, even as a starter. I'd rather save it in case an injury happens to a RB in a better situation. Bloom has Stacy at 5-10% in his waiver report this week, FWIW.

What is a proper amount to blind bid on Nick Foles?

 

[Casting Couch]

Andre Ellington - Mark my words... in 3-4 weeks he's going to be one of those FA adds that ends up winning a lot of people championships.

Um, no. Mark my words, he won't be winning anybody championships. The Arizona Cardinals RB simply does not hold the kind of fantasy value that you are touting. Is he talented? Maybe. That doesn't mean he is going to have any realistic chance of reeling off monster game after monster game.

 

[monk]

Simpson - coming off a bye with a new QB likely better than what he has had

 

[jayfly]

Garrett Graham. He's the primary TE in Houston now with Daniels out a few weeks. Already has a few solid games as a TE2...could be a good bye week filler. Playing at home vs a terrible Rams team week 6