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We've cut the cable (8 Viewers)

Cutting the cable august 22.....I have 9 TVs in my house, DirecTV gonna miss me. I think I have everything covered as far as channels/shows I watch but I'm sure once its done I'll realize I'm missing something.

 
lumpy19 said:
Cutting the cable august 22.....I have 9 TVs in my house, DirecTV gonna miss me. I think I have everything covered as far as channels/shows I watch but I'm sure once its done I'll realize I'm missing something.
we've been free for 2 months now. Don't really miss it and am getting a lot more done that i've always wanted to. I do still need to set up the OTA antenna(s) to make sure i can get network sports. But other than that, an $8/month Hulu sub and an HBO sub that i bought for a friend that has DTV are doing the trick

 
Does anyone know if Watch ESPN works if you get the local only Time Warner cable package? ESPN isn't in the package itself, I was just curious if you can get the online version with it.

 
Does anyone know if Watch ESPN works if you get the local only Time Warner cable package? ESPN isn't in the package itself, I was just curious if you can get the online version with it.
Have to have a package with ESPN.
Thats what I figured... I have TWC internet only right now and Dish, but that won't let me do Watch ESPN either.

If the NFL goes streaming next season I'm thinking of cutting everything and going Hulu/Netflix/Amazon/MLB.tv but Monday Night Football is really my biggest concern.

 
I haven't had cable in almost a decade, but I got an offer in the mail today of $139/mo. for 300 Mbps internet, 300 channels, DVR, phone, and a Dell Inspiron 11 3000 tablet/pc.

Considering I'm paying $90 for 30 Mbps internet and a home phone line it's tempting.

 
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I haven't had cable in almost a decade, but I got an offer in the mail today of $139/mo. for 300 Mbps internet, 300 channels, DVR, phone, and a Dell Inspiron 11 3000 tablet/pc.

Considering I'm paying $90 for 30 Mbps interest and a home phone line it's tempting.
It all starts with the enticing bait. And wait till you want to try and cancel service down the road. Have you forgotten that last time you had to drop off the box and remote? Those places are worse than the DMV.

 
I officially cut the cable a week or so ago. DTV wouldn't play well so I dropped them. I have Netflix + Prime. It was easier once I learned I had a basic cable feed due to my cable modem. I will miss ST on DTV but at least I'll have network football. The final straw was I did the Nielsen ratings thing and realized no one in my house was watching TV. It was all Netflix and Prime.

 
I officially cut the cable a week or so ago. DTV wouldn't play well so I dropped them. I have Netflix + Prime. It was easier once I learned I had a basic cable feed due to my cable modem. I will miss ST on DTV but at least I'll have network football. The final straw was I did the Nielsen ratings thing and realized no one in my house was watching TV. It was all Netflix and Prime.
If you have prime I suggest the Fire TV. We use them in the upstairs bedrooms and they work great. They also are more travel friendly than the chromecasts.

 
I officially cut the cable a week or so ago. DTV wouldn't play well so I dropped them. I have Netflix + Prime. It was easier once I learned I had a basic cable feed due to my cable modem. I will miss ST on DTV but at least I'll have network football. The final straw was I did the Nielsen ratings thing and realized no one in my house was watching TV. It was all Netflix and Prime.
I know there was a discussion here, but is there an easy way to check if i have a basic cable feed due to the modem? As easy as just plugging in a TV? Asking b/c it's a major PITA to get a cord from my modem to the nearest tv

 
I officially cut the cable a week or so ago. DTV wouldn't play well so I dropped them. I have Netflix + Prime. It was easier once I learned I had a basic cable feed due to my cable modem. I will miss ST on DTV but at least I'll have network football. The final straw was I did the Nielsen ratings thing and realized no one in my house was watching TV. It was all Netflix and Prime.
I know there was a discussion here, but is there an easy way to check if i have a basic cable feed due to the modem? As easy as just plugging in a TV? Asking b/c it's a major PITA to get a cord from my modem to the nearest tv
Yea just plug in the coax and see what you get. I actually asked the guy when he installed the roadrunner if it would work... he said they put a filter on it now. Its a physical filter that can be removed if I feel like tinkering with the wire box outside the house but I don't know if I want it that bad to steal it, even though the odds of me getting caught are pretty slim.

I bought one of these guys the other day for $19 and I'm shocked at how great the picture quality is... it might actually be better quality than my DirecTV picture. I didn't think antenna broadcasts even existed anymore.

Now if only ESPN would start broadcasting over air or move MNF back to ABC...

 
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The indoor antennas are getting to be insanely good. The mohu was pretty good, but I've tested a few now that could get a signal in a lead box.

 
The indoor antennas are getting to be insanely good. The mohu was pretty good, but I've tested a few now that could get a signal in a lead box.
Got time to share a little more info?
I put in a wineguard flatwave antenna for one of my inlaws. It was in a very challenging location in the house and I told them it probably wouldn't work. the damn thing picked up EVERYTHING. I was floored. I've been meaning to test it in my location where the original mohu failed to pickup strong signals.

 
I am not wanting to completely cut the cable however I have some common questions, but I didn't really see some of them addressed how I understood.

I am going to continue to carry my Directv account due to Sunday ticket. I want to push my channel package with them down as low as I can get (Not sure how low they will allow), but I should still get local.

Like most my main concern is live sports, specifically NFL. My internet provider doesn't have an agreement with ESPN. What are my options with this?

 
I was a little concerned about losing my DVR (I like to record stuff that's not available on Hulu/Netflix etc like the local news) but it looks like the Tivo Roamio will record off an HD antenna. If that's the case I might not need to go with Hulu after all.

I think Tivo has a monthly fee though so thats a negative.

 
I am not wanting to completely cut the cable however I have some common questions, but I didn't really see some of them addressed how I understood.

I am going to continue to carry my Directv account due to Sunday ticket. I want to push my channel package with them down as low as I can get (Not sure how low they will allow), but I should still get local.

Like most my main concern is live sports, specifically NFL. My internet provider doesn't have an agreement with ESPN. What are my options with this?
This year you'll need Directv to get the NFL sunday ticket, but if you only care about your local team the local channels on DTV or an HD antenna should be able to get them. I'm pretty sure NFL will be streaming next year, either through DirecTV (they rolled out a test online only sunday ticket recently) or through the NFL themselves.

For baseball you can use MLB.tv streaming and NBA has their NBA league pass streaming. I believe NHL does this too.

The only real issue I've found is the ESPN Sunday Night Baseball and Monday Night Football games aren't broadcast on the streaming packages.

 
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I am not wanting to completely cut the cable however I have some common questions, but I didn't really see some of them addressed how I understood.

I am going to continue to carry my Directv account due to Sunday ticket. I want to push my channel package with them down as low as I can get (Not sure how low they will allow), but I should still get local.

Like most my main concern is live sports, specifically NFL. My internet provider doesn't have an agreement with ESPN. What are my options with this?
There was a lawsuit a long time ago which DTV won. At one point they would let you get ST with no other programming at all. They later changed that to needing a basic cable package, if you got this deal you are grandfathered in otherwise you at least have to do a basic package.

 
The DirecTV Sunday Ticket contract is up this year, so there may be a light at the end of the tunnel. They're pushing hard to renew though because the AT&T merger depends on it.

There was a rumor last year that Google was going to get involved in the bidding and broadcast it all online somehow, but I haven't heard anything about it in quite a while.

Right now it sounds like the NFL and Directv are just discussing an extension, not an open bid process like I assumed would happen.

 
The indoor antennas are getting to be insanely good. The mohu was pretty good, but I've tested a few now that could get a signal in a lead box.
Got time to share a little more info?
I put in a wineguard flatwave antenna for one of my inlaws. It was in a very challenging location in the house and I told them it probably wouldn't work. the damn thing picked up EVERYTHING. I was floored. I've been meaning to test it in my location where the original mohu failed to pickup strong signals.
:goodposting:

Moving this weekend, and just ordered one for my second TV which won't have a connected cable box for the local and national NFL games/bedroom TV.

:thumbup:

 
The indoor antennas are getting to be insanely good. The mohu was pretty good, but I've tested a few now that could get a signal in a lead box.
Got time to share a little more info?
I put in a wineguard flatwave antenna for one of my inlaws. It was in a very challenging location in the house and I told them it probably wouldn't work. the damn thing picked up EVERYTHING. I was floored. I've been meaning to test it in my location where the original mohu failed to pickup strong signals.
Agree with this. I posted an Winegard model back a page that I had the same unbelievable results with. Model: FL5500A It was a refurb that indicated it was originally sold at Costco. Highly recommend.

 
East Coast Bias said:
KiddLattimer said:
Does anyone know if Watch ESPN works if you get the local only Time Warner cable package? ESPN isn't in the package itself, I was just curious if you can get the online version with it.
Have to have a package with ESPN.
Or invite someone over that has a package to come watch at your house. Same goes for watchdisneychannels.com Sports and Disney had been the biggest complaints at my house after cutting the cable. Not no more.

 
East Coast Bias said:
KiddLattimer said:
Does anyone know if Watch ESPN works if you get the local only Time Warner cable package? ESPN isn't in the package itself, I was just curious if you can get the online version with it.
Have to have a package with ESPN.
Or invite someone over that has a package to come watch at your house. Same goes for watchdisneychannels.com Sports and Disney had been the biggest complaints at my house after cutting the cable. Not no more.
How exactly are you planning on making this work?

 
Not sure I understand your question? Subscriber loads any of the ABC network sites from browser or Android Apps using their credentials and then they can watch programming over the Internet when they are not at home. My old man comes over and does it all the time though he's not real keen on watching Disney with the kids. Isn't this the same as the HBO Go discussed above?

 
Not sure I understand your question? Subscriber loads any of the ABC network sites from browser or Android Apps using their credentials and then they can watch programming over the Internet when they are not at home. My old man comes over and does it all the time though he's not real keen on watching Disney with the kids. Isn't this the same as the HBO Go discussed above?
Most isp have content filters in place to prevent this. You should test it first.

 
I'm not speaking hypothetical. It has been working fine.

Father subscribes to Dish. He can stream from my house (Wow) or work (Brighthouse). Are we just lucky to be in areas where isp's don't have filters. What's the point of the service if it's not to allow people to watch when not at home?

 
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hotdogcollars said:
Andrew74 said:
I officially cut the cable a week or so ago. DTV wouldn't play well so I dropped them. I have Netflix + Prime. It was easier once I learned I had a basic cable feed due to my cable modem. I will miss ST on DTV but at least I'll have network football. The final straw was I did the Nielsen ratings thing and realized no one in my house was watching TV. It was all Netflix and Prime.
I know there was a discussion here, but is there an easy way to check if i have a basic cable feed due to the modem? As easy as just plugging in a TV? Asking b/c it's a major PITA to get a cord from my modem to the nearest tv
Yeah I just plugged a coax cable into my TV and ran a channel search.
 
KiddLattimer said:
hotdogcollars said:
Andrew74 said:
I officially cut the cable a week or so ago. DTV wouldn't play well so I dropped them. I have Netflix + Prime. It was easier once I learned I had a basic cable feed due to my cable modem. I will miss ST on DTV but at least I'll have network football. The final straw was I did the Nielsen ratings thing and realized no one in my house was watching TV. It was all Netflix and Prime.
I know there was a discussion here, but is there an easy way to check if i have a basic cable feed due to the modem? As easy as just plugging in a TV? Asking b/c it's a major PITA to get a cord from my modem to the nearest tv
Yea just plug in the coax and see what you get. I actually asked the guy when he installed the roadrunner if it would work... he said they put a filter on it now. Its a physical filter that can be removed if I feel like tinkering with the wire box outside the house but I don't know if I want it that bad to steal it, even though the odds of me getting caught are pretty slim.

I bought one of these guys the other day for $19 and I'm shocked at how great the picture quality is... it might actually be better quality than my DirecTV picture. I didn't think antenna broadcasts even existed anymore.

Now if only ESPN would start broadcasting over air or move MNF back to ABC...
no dice :kicksrock:

tried the mohu antennas...all of them...and none could pick up all 4 major networks. This despite my house beings only 23 miles from the antenna bank.

going to try this next as i really dont want to go back to $140/mth direct tv. Even if i get an antenna to pick up all the signals my next challenge is going to be running coax all over my house. 70 yr old all brick and cinder block walls with virtually no room to run stuff between that and the plaster/drywall.

 
KiddLattimer said:
hotdogcollars said:
Andrew74 said:
I officially cut the cable a week or so ago. DTV wouldn't play well so I dropped them. I have Netflix + Prime. It was easier once I learned I had a basic cable feed due to my cable modem. I will miss ST on DTV but at least I'll have network football. The final straw was I did the Nielsen ratings thing and realized no one in my house was watching TV. It was all Netflix and Prime.
I know there was a discussion here, but is there an easy way to check if i have a basic cable feed due to the modem? As easy as just plugging in a TV? Asking b/c it's a major PITA to get a cord from my modem to the nearest tv
Yea just plug in the coax and see what you get. I actually asked the guy when he installed the roadrunner if it would work... he said they put a filter on it now. Its a physical filter that can be removed if I feel like tinkering with the wire box outside the house but I don't know if I want it that bad to steal it, even though the odds of me getting caught are pretty slim.

I bought one of these guys the other day for $19 and I'm shocked at how great the picture quality is... it might actually be better quality than my DirecTV picture. I didn't think antenna broadcasts even existed anymore.

Now if only ESPN would start broadcasting over air or move MNF back to ABC...
no dice :kicksrock:

tried the mohu antennas...all of them...and none could pick up all 4 major networks. This despite my house beings only 23 miles from the antenna bank.

going to try this next as i really dont want to go back to $140/mth direct tv. Even if i get an antenna to pick up all the signals my next challenge is going to be running coax all over my house. 70 yr old all brick and cinder block walls with virtually no room to run stuff between that and the plaster/drywall.
Which one did you try? For the amazon basics antennas the cheapest one has a range of 25 miles so you're probably on the fringe of the range. The "high performance" one has a range of 35 miles and the "extreme performance" one will go 50 miles.

I'm only about 17 miles from the furthest station so I only tested the basic one but it worked surprisingly well. I still have about 8 mos left on my directv package so for now it'll be a backup for my Giants games in case it starts pouring mid game.

 
Has anyone seen the ads for keepmytv.org?

It their website says "Pay-TV companies, such as cable and satellite, are seeking new rules in Congress that could jeopardize the free, local TV service that nearly 60 million Americans rely on each day to stay safe and informed." but it does a really poor job of explaining what is happening and what can be done about it... it just tries to route you in to signing a petition which I'm not doing unless I know more.

Pretty terrible website but obviously it could be an issue for all these antennas we're buying.

 
This new mlb.tv deal does not sound good. Waiting for the details to come out, but sounds like there will be content filters on that too.

 
This new mlb.tv deal does not sound good. Waiting for the details to come out, but sounds like there will be content filters on that too.
I just saw they are working on the local team blackout... something else mixed in there that we won't like?
Yup. To get around the blackout you are going to have to prove you have a valid cable provider package.

This opens the door for cable providers to shut anyone down using a unblocker in the same way they are shutting down hbo go.

 
We ordered our Antenna to prepare for the cut.. Since we live over 30 miles from the nearest tower we went with one that can be placed either inside or outside

Reading some of the reviews there (+1900 with 4 1/2 stars :) ) we are first going to try setting it up inside where the current splitter is located and if that doesn't work then take it to the roof and use the DIrectTV mounting hardware..

:popcorn:
OK, received the Antenna and did some testing over the weekend..

Was able to get all channels with no pixels with the Antenna in the basement except for our local NBC Chanel. Turns out all the other channel's in our area broadcast in UHF but the local NBC is VHF only.. thanks for being a PITA NBC :rant:

The RCA has VHF capabilities and after monkeying around with the VHF part I could sometimes get the NBC Channel's but then they'd pixel.. So took the Antenna and small LCD TV outside on the porch and Viola it worked with no issues..

Plan now is to detach the DirectTV Dish and attach the Antenna to the existing Hardware on Tuesday and see what results we get.

We have run into one "issue" that I'm wondering if anyone has found a work around..

Food network is not available on Hulu plus.. Regular Hulu has some old shows but pretty crappy.. In fact, after comparing Hulu Plus and Hulu we really can't see any reason to pay for Hulu Plus.

Wife really likes watching a lot of the shows on Food network.. We did find she could watch some of the shows on her tablet, but wondering if anyone has found a way to watch Food Network, HGTV, etc.. on the Roku??

After searching around I did find playonTV

It may be the answer as it claims you can stream sites like Food Network, HGTV and others directly through the Roku..

Has anyone tried that product??

They have a "LifeTime" subscription going on right now for Playon, Play Later( DVR style recording) and a Chromecast device for $70 so thinking of giving it a shot..

 
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Food network is pretty much only available on AmazonPrime on a pay for play basis. That's what my wife does. She'll just buy whole seasons of the shows she likes at about $20 a pop. The rest of the stuff you find for food network streaming is at least a year and often multiple years old.

 
Food network is pretty much only available on AmazonPrime on a pay for play basis. That's what my wife does. She'll just buy whole seasons of the shows she likes at about $20 a pop. The rest of the stuff you find for food network streaming is at least a year and often multiple years old.
OK thanks.. Since I'm giving up Monday night football and half the season of Thursday night football I think she can deal with it ;)

May have to have her look into "The Dare Wall" as that looks like the best solution to getting to things like Saturday nights "Hell on Wheels" and possibly "The Walking Dead" once it starts back up as AMC seems to be changing it's site on how to view the previous nights episodes :(

 
We ordered our Antenna to prepare for the cut.. Since we live over 30 miles from the nearest tower we went with one that can be placed either inside or outside

Reading some of the reviews there (+1900 with 4 1/2 stars :) ) we are first going to try setting it up inside where the current splitter is located and if that doesn't work then take it to the roof and use the DIrectTV mounting hardware..

:popcorn:
OK, received the Antenna and did some testing over the weekend..

Was able to get all channels with no pixels with the Antenna in the basement except for our local NBC Chanel. Turns out all the other channel's in our area broadcast in UHF but the local NBC is VHF only.. thanks for being a PITA NBC :rant:

The RCA has VHF capabilities and after monkeying around with the VHF part I could sometimes get the NBC Channel's but then they'd pixel.. So took the Antenna and small LCD TV outside on the porch and Viola it worked with no issues..

Plan now is to detach the DirectTV Dish and attach the Antenna to the existing Hardware on Tuesday and see what results we get.

We have run into one "issue" that I'm wondering if anyone has found a work around..

Food network is not available on Hulu plus.. Regular Hulu has some old shows but pretty crappy.. In fact, after comparing Hulu Plus and Hulu we really can't see any reason to pay for Hulu Plus.

Wife really likes watching a lot of the shows on Food network.. We did find she could watch some of the shows on her tablet, but wondering if anyone has found a way to watch Food Network, HGTV, etc.. on the Roku??

After searching around I did find playonTV

It may be the answer as it claims you can stream sites like Food Network, HGTV and others directly through the Roku..

Has anyone tried that product??

They have a "LifeTime" subscription going on right now for Playon, Play Later( DVR style recording) and a Chromecast device for $70 so thinking of giving it a shot..
My wife was a big Food Network/HGTV fan before we cut the cord over two years ago. She's now a big fan of Create TV. For us, it's one of the local PBS station subchannels.

 
We ordered our Antenna to prepare for the cut.. Since we live over 30 miles from the nearest tower we went with one that can be placed either inside or outside

Reading some of the reviews there (+1900 with 4 1/2 stars :) ) we are first going to try setting it up inside where the current splitter is located and if that doesn't work then take it to the roof and use the DIrectTV mounting hardware..

:popcorn:
OK, received the Antenna and did some testing over the weekend..

Was able to get all channels with no pixels with the Antenna in the basement except for our local NBC Chanel. Turns out all the other channel's in our area broadcast in UHF but the local NBC is VHF only.. thanks for being a PITA NBC :rant:

I have the same problem, but my antenna isn't the one Snogger got. It's an indoor one that somebody in here recommended, and every other channel comes in crystal clear except for NBC, which has no signal whatsoever. What options do I have to add that channel? Or is an outdoor antenna my only option? I'll try to figure out what antenna it is when I get home. It's currently near my TV in the bedroom - could the TV be interfering with the antenna (meaning should I move the antenna), or is my only recourse getting an attic/outdoor antenna?
 
I officially cut the cable a week or so ago. DTV wouldn't play well so I dropped them. I have Netflix + Prime. It was easier once I learned I had a basic cable feed due to my cable modem. I will miss ST on DTV but at least I'll have network football. The final straw was I did the Nielsen ratings thing and realized no one in my house was watching TV. It was all Netflix and Prime.
I know there was a discussion here, but is there an easy way to check if i have a basic cable feed due to the modem? As easy as just plugging in a TV? Asking b/c it's a major PITA to get a cord from my modem to the nearest tv
Yea just plug in the coax and see what you get. I actually asked the guy when he installed the roadrunner if it would work... he said they put a filter on it now. Its a physical filter that can be removed if I feel like tinkering with the wire box outside the house but I don't know if I want it that bad to steal it, even though the odds of me getting caught are pretty slim.

I bought one of these guys the other day for $19 and I'm shocked at how great the picture quality is... it might actually be better quality than my DirecTV picture. I didn't think antenna broadcasts even existed anymore.

Now if only ESPN would start broadcasting over air or move MNF back to ABC...
no dice :kicksrock:

tried the mohu antennas...all of them...and none could pick up all 4 major networks. This despite my house beings only 23 miles from the antenna bank.

going to try this next as i really dont want to go back to $140/mth direct tv. Even if i get an antenna to pick up all the signals my next challenge is going to be running coax all over my house. 70 yr old all brick and cinder block walls with virtually no room to run stuff between that and the plaster/drywall.
Which one did you try? For the amazon basics antennas the cheapest one has a range of 25 miles so you're probably on the fringe of the range. The "high performance" one has a range of 35 miles and the "extreme performance" one will go 50 miles.

I'm only about 17 miles from the furthest station so I only tested the basic one but it worked surprisingly well. I still have about 8 mos left on my directv package so for now it'll be a backup for my Giants games in case it starts pouring mid game.
Tried the amplified Mohu Leaf 50, Mohu Curve 50, Mohu Sky 60, and now the Winegard Flatwave Air. None of them pick up more than 3 or 4 channels and even those are iffy. I even mounted the Winegard outside b/t the 1st and 2nd story with a direct line of sight to closest antenna array.

This is just nuts, i'm on one of the highest pats of the state, with less than 25 miles to the antennas. And i cannot pick up 2 of the 4 major broadcast networks.

Any ideas? Is there even such a thing as a professional antenna installer these days?

Damn Supreme Court and their Aereo decision, screwed up my whole plan

 
I officially cut the cable a week or so ago. DTV wouldn't play well so I dropped them. I have Netflix + Prime. It was easier once I learned I had a basic cable feed due to my cable modem. I will miss ST on DTV but at least I'll have network football. The final straw was I did the Nielsen ratings thing and realized no one in my house was watching TV. It was all Netflix and Prime.
I know there was a discussion here, but is there an easy way to check if i have a basic cable feed due to the modem? As easy as just plugging in a TV? Asking b/c it's a major PITA to get a cord from my modem to the nearest tv
Yea just plug in the coax and see what you get. I actually asked the guy when he installed the roadrunner if it would work... he said they put a filter on it now. Its a physical filter that can be removed if I feel like tinkering with the wire box outside the house but I don't know if I want it that bad to steal it, even though the odds of me getting caught are pretty slim.

I bought one of these guys the other day for $19 and I'm shocked at how great the picture quality is... it might actually be better quality than my DirecTV picture. I didn't think antenna broadcasts even existed anymore.

Now if only ESPN would start broadcasting over air or move MNF back to ABC...
no dice :kicksrock:

tried the mohu antennas...all of them...and none could pick up all 4 major networks. This despite my house beings only 23 miles from the antenna bank.

going to try this next as i really dont want to go back to $140/mth direct tv. Even if i get an antenna to pick up all the signals my next challenge is going to be running coax all over my house. 70 yr old all brick and cinder block walls with virtually no room to run stuff between that and the plaster/drywall.
Which one did you try? For the amazon basics antennas the cheapest one has a range of 25 miles so you're probably on the fringe of the range. The "high performance" one has a range of 35 miles and the "extreme performance" one will go 50 miles.

I'm only about 17 miles from the furthest station so I only tested the basic one but it worked surprisingly well. I still have about 8 mos left on my directv package so for now it'll be a backup for my Giants games in case it starts pouring mid game.
Tried the amplified Mohu Leaf 50, Mohu Curve 50, Mohu Sky 60, and now the Winegard Flatwave Air. None of them pick up more than 3 or 4 channels and even those are iffy. I even mounted the Winegard outside b/t the 1st and 2nd story with a direct line of sight to closest antenna array.

This is just nuts, i'm on one of the highest pats of the state, with less than 25 miles to the antennas. And i cannot pick up 2 of the 4 major broadcast networks.

Any ideas? Is there even such a thing as a professional antenna installer these days?

Damn Supreme Court and their Aereo decision, screwed up my whole plan
What about using an amp? It will potentially lower your picture quality, however.

 
hotdogcollars said:
Tried the amplified Mohu Leaf 50, Mohu Curve 50, Mohu Sky 60, and now the Winegard Flatwave Air. None of them pick up more than 3 or 4 channels and even those are iffy. I even mounted the Winegard outside b/t the 1st and 2nd story with a direct line of sight to closest antenna array.

This is just nuts, i'm on one of the highest pats of the state, with less than 25 miles to the antennas. And i cannot pick up 2 of the 4 major broadcast networks.

Any ideas? Is there even such a thing as a professional antenna installer these days?

Damn Supreme Court and their Aereo decision, screwed up my whole plan
Go to tvfool and run their analysis for your location and then post the results link back here for us all to take a look at your situation: http://www.tvfool.com/index.php?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=29

And report which 2 come in good and which 2 you cannot pickup.

 
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hotdogcollars said:
Tried the amplified Mohu Leaf 50, Mohu Curve 50, Mohu Sky 60, and now the Winegard Flatwave Air. None of them pick up more than 3 or 4 channels and even those are iffy. I even mounted the Winegard outside b/t the 1st and 2nd story with a direct line of sight to closest antenna array.

This is just nuts, i'm on one of the highest pats of the state, with less than 25 miles to the antennas. And i cannot pick up 2 of the 4 major broadcast networks.

Any ideas? Is there even such a thing as a professional antenna installer these days?

Damn Supreme Court and their Aereo decision, screwed up my whole plan
Go to tvfool and run their analysis for your location and then post the results link back here for us all to take a look at your situation: http://www.tvfool.com/index.php?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=29

And report which 2 come in good and which 2 you cannot pickup.
Link to report - http://pl.vc/4evxo

NBC and CBS come in crystal clear, no distortion or pixelation (is that a word?). Don't get ABC and FOX. One time i was holding the mohu leaf in my hand, turned it 90deg, reran channel scan, and picked up both Fox and ABC...but immediately lost NBC and CBS

 
I started thinking about all that college football and the NFL and so I called the internet warlord known as ATT U-Verse and for just an extra $100 a month I can get the sports package and cable with no contract or extension. That's gonna cost about $500 for the NFL season.

Now I also was reading that you can get NFL Ticket thru Apple for like $250 or less, anyone know much about it?

Thanks

 
hotdogcollars said:
Tried the amplified Mohu Leaf 50, Mohu Curve 50, Mohu Sky 60, and now the Winegard Flatwave Air. None of them pick up more than 3 or 4 channels and even those are iffy. I even mounted the Winegard outside b/t the 1st and 2nd story with a direct line of sight to closest antenna array.

This is just nuts, i'm on one of the highest pats of the state, with less than 25 miles to the antennas. And i cannot pick up 2 of the 4 major broadcast networks.

Any ideas? Is there even such a thing as a professional antenna installer these days?

Damn Supreme Court and their Aereo decision, screwed up my whole plan
Go to tvfool and run their analysis for your location and then post the results link back here for us all to take a look at your situation: http://www.tvfool.com/index.php?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=29

And report which 2 come in good and which 2 you cannot pickup.
Link to report - http://pl.vc/4evxo

NBC and CBS come in crystal clear, no distortion or pixelation (is that a word?). Don't get ABC and FOX. One time i was holding the mohu leaf in my hand, turned it 90deg, reran channel scan, and picked up both Fox and ABC...but immediately lost NBC and CBS
Here's my thoughts. First off, your ABC is in the VHF-Low band. It really needs it's own antenna with a combiner to merge them together. All the antennas you've tried are UHF or UHF/VHF combos. The combos would probably only do an ok job for 15-20 mile range VHF-High bands. The VHF-Low band really needs some length to capture the much longer frequency waves.

Second, all the other channels you are interested in are all in the Northeast direction. Your best best is to use a directional antenna. It seems all the antennas you've tried are multi-directional. There are also several close stations due East so I'd try a directional antenna with about a 45* beam and point it NE-E to target the middle of the two clusters and diminish the pick-up of all the other stations.

The difficult question is why are you not picking up Fox-42. It very well be because you are using a multi-directional antenna and there is a competing weaker channel 42 almost 180 degrees in the other direction. When you point your flat-waves directly towards the Fox-42 it is also pointed directly at the other more distance tower so the signals could be knocking each other out. When you move the antenna 90* the weaker station probably maybe too weak to still interfere.

 
hotdogcollars said:
Tried the amplified Mohu Leaf 50, Mohu Curve 50, Mohu Sky 60, and now the Winegard Flatwave Air. None of them pick up more than 3 or 4 channels and even those are iffy. I even mounted the Winegard outside b/t the 1st and 2nd story with a direct line of sight to closest antenna array.

This is just nuts, i'm on one of the highest pats of the state, with less than 25 miles to the antennas. And i cannot pick up 2 of the 4 major broadcast networks.

Any ideas? Is there even such a thing as a professional antenna installer these days?

Damn Supreme Court and their Aereo decision, screwed up my whole plan
Go to tvfool and run their analysis for your location and then post the results link back here for us all to take a look at your situation: http://www.tvfool.com/index.php?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=29

And report which 2 come in good and which 2 you cannot pickup.
Link to report - http://pl.vc/4evxo

NBC and CBS come in crystal clear, no distortion or pixelation (is that a word?). Don't get ABC and FOX. One time i was holding the mohu leaf in my hand, turned it 90deg, reran channel scan, and picked up both Fox and ABC...but immediately lost NBC and CBS
Here's my thoughts. First off, your ABC is in the VHF-Low band. It really needs it's own antenna with a combiner to merge them together. All the antennas you've tried are UHF or UHF/VHF combos. The combos would probably only do an ok job for 15-20 mile range VHF-High bands. The VHF-Low band really needs some length to capture the much longer frequency waves.

Second, all the other channels you are interested in are all in the Northeast direction. Your best best is to use a directional antenna. It seems all the antennas you've tried are multi-directional. There are also several close stations due East so I'd try a directional antenna with about a 45* beam and point it NE-E to target the middle of the two clusters and diminish the pick-up of all the other stations.

The difficult question is why are you not picking up Fox-42. It very well be because you are using a multi-directional antenna and there is a competing weaker channel 42 almost 180 degrees in the other direction. When you point your flat-waves directly towards the Fox-42 it is also pointed directly at the other more distance tower so the signals could be knocking each other out. When you move the antenna 90* the weaker station probably maybe too weak to still interfere.
ok, that makes sense. If i go with a longer directional antenna would that solve the issue with ABC as well? or should i just go with a VHF specific antenna and combine as you mention?

one thing i was trying to avoid was that typical, gaudy antenna look. Are there any directional antennas that are...sleek, for lack of a better term

Thanks for the info and help, much appreciated!

 
Well the overall test will have to wait until next month.. Wife forgot the auto-pay date and it already came and went. Figured it was tough enough to cancel without getting the run around so I figure trying to get our payment back .. well ... might as well do this a million times :wall:

 
I was a little concerned about losing my DVR (I like to record stuff that's not available on Hulu/Netflix etc like the local news) but it looks like the Tivo Roamio will record off an HD antenna. If that's the case I might not need to go with Hulu after all.

I think Tivo has a monthly fee though so thats a negative.
I haven't looked too much into this, but seems interesting

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2464714,00.asp

Don't have cable or satellite TV service, but still want a DVR? TiVo has just the thing.

The company on Monday unveiled the limited-edition TiVo Roamio OTA, a DVR for cord cutters. The device lets you record up to four shows simultaneously, and offers 500GB of storage, which is enough space for 75 hours of HD programming.
 

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