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We've cut the cable (6 Viewers)

For the viewer who watches sports occasionally, OTA antenna is good.

For the viewer who watches sports frequently, OTA + Sling TV is good.

For the viewer who needs to watch every game of their local MLB, NBA, or NHL team, you'll need cable/satellite.

For the viewer who needs to watch every NFL game (or just every game of their local NFL team) or every game anywhere in MLB/NBA/NHL, then you will need to subscribe to offerings like Sunday Ticket, MLB.tv, etc.... whether or not you need cable/satellite to get those offerings depends on how you plan to get them. I have MLB.tv, and don't have cable/satelitte. But I may not renew MLB.tv next year after I signed up for Sling TV in April. ESPN gives me 3 MLB games a week, which is about what I watch.
. Mlb.tv also broadcasts 1 game for free each day. Roku app works great.

 
matttyl said:
So I got an e-mail yesterday that Showtime is now doing streaming on the Roku. I didn't know if they had previously offered any streaming services.
Long Ball Larry said:
Mlb.tv also broadcasts 1 game for free each day. Roku app works great.
Oooh. Noted, thanks!

 
Politician Spock said:
For the viewer who watches sports occasionally, OTA antenna is good.

For the viewer who watches sports frequently, OTA + Sling TV is good.

For the viewer who needs to watch every game of their local MLB, NBA, or NHL team, you'll need cable/satellite.

For the viewer who needs to watch every NFL game (or just every game of their local NFL team) or every game anywhere in MLB/NBA/NHL, then you will need to subscribe to offerings like Sunday Ticket, MLB.tv, etc.... whether or not you need cable/satellite to get those offerings depends on how you plan to get them. I have MLB.tv, and don't have cable/satelitte. But I may not renew MLB.tv next year after I signed up for Sling TV in April. ESPN gives me 3 MLB games a week, which is about what I watch.
there are paid streaming sites that have perfect feeds of pretty much every sporting event going on.

The good ones limit membership though and it's very hard to get an invite to them.

 
Kodi is great - but I am not sure I would 100% trust it with live sports. I don't want to miss NFL games and I find that live sports are very hit and miss - there are always servers offered but a lot of the time can't connect, or stream is terrible...etc. That said, an OTA antenna and sling TV probably solves the issue.
I tried out Sports Devil and never found a stream that was watchable.
It's kind of a PITA. As the sites that host streams constantly change web addresses to skirt being shut down, so must the app be updated due to "scraping" the feed information from the sites themselves. As far as I know, this app doesn't auto-update, meaning you have to hit google and dive into forums where the latest updates are being discussed, and links provided. IMO, it's more trouble than it's worth to cut the cord, strictly sports speaking with SportsDevil as an example. Kodi rules for non-sports content with apps like Genesis and IceFilms, etc. taking care of just about anything you'd want to watch on demand. My setup is absolute base cable package that nets me all the live sports channels I need and fast, wired internet. I end up only turning the box on for something live news or sports related. If you cut completely, the price of your cable internet will go way up. You can get deals, but I've found that to be hard to come by. Tonydead has suggested going to a Xfinity store (in my case as a customer) with great results, which I plan to try once my 2-year deal is up, and that might be a game changer for me. Otherwise, the amount of money you'll spend on stuff like Sling, HBO Go, Hulu, Netflix, etc. will fill the gap of your savings anyways to fill the gap in what you're dropping. The upside just isn't there for me personally to edge out like $10-20 tops a month and have to constantly maintain the setup.
$44 for 50 Mbps, no strings no contract.

$20 for Sling

$15 for Sling HBO, I could save this and just get the shows I want elsewhere but I want to support the streaming services.

$8 for Netflix

$0 for Amazon Prime, I don't count this as prime shipping pays for itself.

$0 for OTA

-$8 for Netflix because I already had this with cable anyways.

$79 per month total after making the change. I was paying over $200 per month before with all the receiver fees, HD fees, modem fees, etc. Not to mention the price kept going up every year. I occasionally get some shows elsewhere, but, it's been a lot less than I expected as the combination I have covers almost everything I was watching before on cable. I also expect that these streaming services will continue to expand and improve.

For sports I guess I don't watch any more than what comes on the major networks or ESPN since I haven't noticed missing anything. I will miss NFL Network/NFL Red Zone though so I'm still working on a solution for that.

 
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Or to put it this way, it's so much cheaper for me I haven't wrote a check out to Comcast since I cut the cable in mid-March. I had just sent in a $200+ payment right before I made the change and after the billing cycle reconciled the negative balance still hasn't caught back up.

 
For sports I guess I don't watch any more than what comes on the major networks or ESPN since I haven't noticed missing anything. I will miss NFL Network/NFL Red Zone though so I'm still working on a solution for that.
Who's your cell service provider? If it's Verizon, you've got one option (not a great option, but an option none the less)

 
Kodi is great - but I am not sure I would 100% trust it with live sports. I don't want to miss NFL games and I find that live sports are very hit and miss - there are always servers offered but a lot of the time can't connect, or stream is terrible...etc. That said, an OTA antenna and sling TV probably solves the issue.
I tried out Sports Devil and never found a stream that was watchable.
It's kind of a PITA. As the sites that host streams constantly change web addresses to skirt being shut down, so must the app be updated due to "scraping" the feed information from the sites themselves. As far as I know, this app doesn't auto-update, meaning you have to hit google and dive into forums where the latest updates are being discussed, and links provided. IMO, it's more trouble than it's worth to cut the cord, strictly sports speaking with SportsDevil as an example. Kodi rules for non-sports content with apps like Genesis and IceFilms, etc. taking care of just about anything you'd want to watch on demand. My setup is absolute base cable package that nets me all the live sports channels I need and fast, wired internet. I end up only turning the box on for something live news or sports related. If you cut completely, the price of your cable internet will go way up. You can get deals, but I've found that to be hard to come by. Tonydead has suggested going to a Xfinity store (in my case as a customer) with great results, which I plan to try once my 2-year deal is up, and that might be a game changer for me. Otherwise, the amount of money you'll spend on stuff like Sling, HBO Go, Hulu, Netflix, etc. will fill the gap of your savings anyways to fill the gap in what you're dropping. The upside just isn't there for me personally to edge out like $10-20 tops a month and have to constantly maintain the setup.
$44 for 50 Mbps, no strings no contract.$20 for Sling

$15 for Sling HBO, I could save this and just get the shows I want elsewhere but I want to support the streaming services.

$8 for Netflix

$0 for Amazon Prime, I don't count this as prime shipping pays for itself.

$0 for OTA

-$8 for Netflix because I already had this with cable anyways.

$79 per month total after making the change. I was paying over $200 per month before with all the receiver fees, HD fees, modem fees, etc. Not to mention the price kept going up every year. I occasionally get some shows elsewhere, but, it's been a lot less than I expected as the combination I have covers almost everything I was watching before on cable. I also expect that these streaming services will continue to expand and improve.

For sports I guess I don't watch any more than what comes on the major networks or ESPN since I haven't noticed missing anything. I will miss NFL Network/NFL Red Zone though so I'm still working on a solution for that.
$44 for 50mbps?? Who is ur provider?

 
Finally talked the wife into dropping cable. We're saving $90/mo now. Problem will be in the fall. She's very old fashioned and likes watching 3, 6 and 10. I get NBC and CBS no problem including Fox, 17 and 57 and a bunch of others. The problem is ####### ABC.

Doesn't even come in a little bit in Philly burbs. Any one have any tips?

 
For sports I guess I don't watch any more than what comes on the major networks or ESPN since I haven't noticed missing anything. I will miss NFL Network/NFL Red Zone though so I'm still working on a solution for that.
Who's your cell service provider? If it's Verizon, you've got one option (not a great option, but an option none the less)
[SIZE=10.5pt]It is Verizon, but it's also a company phone and at least last year when I tried it told me I didn't have right plan. [/SIZE]

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[SIZE=10.5pt]I'll probably just pay $100-$150 for NFL Gamepass by using my VPN to assign an IP outside of North America. It would be less than half the cost of NFL Sunday Ticket online so I’ll feel like I’m winning.[/SIZE]

 
$44 for 50mbps?? Who is ur provider?
Comcast/Xfinity. When I cut the cable the lady at the Xfinity Store said 50Mbps was $66 but to come back and see her after a month when the billing reconciled and she'd give me a better deal. Go in to the Xfinity Store, not the Comcast warehouse and don't call on the phone.

 
Finally talked the wife into dropping cable. We're saving $90/mo now. Problem will be in the fall. She's very old fashioned and likes watching 3, 6 and 10. I get NBC and CBS no problem including Fox, 17 and 57 and a bunch of others. The problem is ####### ABC.

Doesn't even come in a little bit in Philly burbs. Any one have any tips?
1- Best annteanna you can get as high up as you can get on your roof.

2- Make sure it's pointed in the right direction.

3- If your antenna is already on the roof and pointed in the right direction try an amplifier.

4- Make sure you have as short runs of coax as possible with as few splits as possible.

5- Make sure you have good quality coax and connectors. I bought a stripper tool and compression tool to put on all new connectors.

After all these things I still can't get channel 7 downstairs (signal is great upstairs) because the coax run is so long, probably a couple hundred feet. I might try an inline amplifier but that might just amplify a bad signal.

 
I use SportsDevil for all my sports and haven't ran into any issues beyond a bad link here and there. Most streams are every bit as good as Sling. I'm not planning to renew my 3 month sub to Sling as I havent used it since I got it.

I'm really debating whether to even get NFL Game Pass this year (or just use SportsDevil). I likely will but only because I love the Player Search option they have to view every players game clips.

 
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If I go with Kodi and Sportsdevil, do I need to run it thru a computer? It looks like you can use a number of different devices to use Sling TV.

 
I guess it is old news but I wasn't aware comcast offered their go tv without a cable tv subscription. I've always said they'd have to start competing for cord cutters. They are offering packages with Gbps and the go app for 59.99. I'm having a hard time finding all thats included but the letter I got today says it comes with :

Streampix- assuming its on demand movie that you would have to purchase.

Stream HBO - assuming same as HBO go and/or Sling HBO

Tv go- can't find a channel lineup but says it includes shows like America's got talent so it must give access to local (probably east coast) channels

Has the usual strings attached though- 1 year contract and they'll double the price after that. But, might be an option for those too far out to get OTA.
Comcast Stream

Funny, or should I say un-funny, that I get a letter trying to suck me into a year contract for go-tv just days before this announcement.

This might become a good option for those that can't get OTA channels where they live. It appears to be OTA networks bundled with HBO. For the same price as HBO on Sling, why not?

Either way it is good news for cord cutters, the price of on-line streaming options and where the future of TV is headed. :thumbup:

 
Finally talked the wife into dropping cable. We're saving $90/mo now. Problem will be in the fall. She's very old fashioned and likes watching 3, 6 and 10. I get NBC and CBS no problem including Fox, 17 and 57 and a bunch of others. The problem is ####### ABC.

Doesn't even come in a little bit in Philly burbs. Any one have any tips?
I only have one cable box, so I have an antenna on my bedroom TV. You're right, for some reason ABC6 is a tough one. I'm like 20 mins outside CC Philly, so it took some finagling with my Amazon antenna, but I was finally able to get it to pick up ABC6. Antenna has to be close to a window where the TV is, so I had to move my TV over a little more than I wanted to get it to work so it didn't look hideous, but I was able to get it to go. No hard and fast, just get a good antenna and find a window to put it near.

 
I guess it is old news but I wasn't aware comcast offered their go tv without a cable tv subscription. I've always said they'd have to start competing for cord cutters. They are offering packages with Gbps and the go app for 59.99. I'm having a hard time finding all thats included but the letter I got today says it comes with :

Streampix- assuming its on demand movie that you would have to purchase.

Stream HBO - assuming same as HBO go and/or Sling HBO

Tv go- can't find a channel lineup but says it includes shows like America's got talent so it must give access to local (probably east coast) channels

Has the usual strings attached though- 1 year contract and they'll double the price after that. But, might be an option for those too far out to get OTA.
Comcast Stream

Funny, or should I say un-funny, that I get a letter trying to suck me into a year contract for go-tv just days before this announcement.

This might become a good option for those that can't get OTA channels where they live. It appears to be OTA networks bundled with HBO. For the same price as HBO on Sling, why not?

Either way it is good news for cord cutters, the price of on-line streaming options and where the future of TV is headed. :thumbup:
On phone, tablet and laptop? Smart TVs and Roku users out (for now)?

 
btw, I finnaly got around to installing Kodi and trying out some of the apps. My impressions so far:

Ease of installation and use: It was a lot easier to set up and find what you are looking for than any of the youtube videos or online articles make it out to be. If you can find the addon installer zip file it simplifies the process so you don't have to find zip files for most of the other popular addons.

Sports and live TV: The couple of live events I watched weren't in high def and had varying degrees of graininess and shuddering. They were watchable so I suppose if it's an event that's not broadcast in your area or on a channel you don't have it's better than not having it.

Movies and previously aired TV shows: It appears that there are copies of most everything available for streaming that there are for downloading 'elsewhere'. And given the fact that you can tell which stream is the best copy by how popular the stream is it's a huge improvement over waiting for a download from 'elsewhere' and hoping its of good quality. The couple of movies I watched appeared to be in 720p with surround sound and had just a slight, almost unnoticeable, shuddering.

 
I guess it is old news but I wasn't aware comcast offered their go tv without a cable tv subscription. I've always said they'd have to start competing for cord cutters. They are offering packages with Gbps and the go app for 59.99. I'm having a hard time finding all thats included but the letter I got today says it comes with :

Streampix- assuming its on demand movie that you would have to purchase.

Stream HBO - assuming same as HBO go and/or Sling HBO

Tv go- can't find a channel lineup but says it includes shows like America's got talent so it must give access to local (probably east coast) channels

Has the usual strings attached though- 1 year contract and they'll double the price after that. But, might be an option for those too far out to get OTA.
Comcast Stream

Funny, or should I say un-funny, that I get a letter trying to suck me into a year contract for go-tv just days before this announcement.

This might become a good option for those that can't get OTA channels where they live. It appears to be OTA networks bundled with HBO. For the same price as HBO on Sling, why not?

Either way it is good news for cord cutters, the price of on-line streaming options and where the future of TV is headed. :thumbup:
On phone, tablet and laptop? Smart TVs and Roku users out (for now)?
I guess. They are going to control use over their managed networks by IP address and keep the streaming limited to the home network. Still makes it possible for them to add other devices on the home network in the future.

 
I guess it is old news but I wasn't aware comcast offered their go tv without a cable tv subscription. I've always said they'd have to start competing for cord cutters. They are offering packages with Gbps and the go app for 59.99. I'm having a hard time finding all thats included but the letter I got today says it comes with :

Streampix- assuming its on demand movie that you would have to purchase.

Stream HBO - assuming same as HBO go and/or Sling HBO

Tv go- can't find a channel lineup but says it includes shows like America's got talent so it must give access to local (probably east coast) channels

Has the usual strings attached though- 1 year contract and they'll double the price after that. But, might be an option for those too far out to get OTA.
Comcast Stream

Funny, or should I say un-funny, that I get a letter trying to suck me into a year contract for go-tv just days before this announcement.

This might become a good option for those that can't get OTA channels where they live. It appears to be OTA networks bundled with HBO. For the same price as HBO on Sling, why not?

Either way it is good news for cord cutters, the price of on-line streaming options and where the future of TV is headed. :thumbup:
On phone, tablet and laptop? Smart TVs and Roku users out (for now)?
I guess. They are going to control use over their managed networks by IP address and keep the streaming limited to the home network. Still makes it possible for them to add other devices on the home network in the future.
I'm fine with only at home. Just want to be able to watch....you know....TV on my.....you know......TV. If I can get my locals and HBO this way (easily, on all my TVs) and then get Slight for ESPNs and a few other cable channels I'm done. Of course that's already $30 a month at the very least, and it's only $40 a month to have "TV" on top of my internet service with these guys anyway.

 
I think this is a great move for Comcast. No one else I know of offers OTA networks and IF they make it the local channels it would solve the problem of getting these channels for people who live outside of reach and the general PIA of antennas. They could follow up with cable channel add on packages and take the rest of the business away from Sling. This might drive the costs down and lead to a la carte cable like it should be. However, note the press releases state that it is available to Comcast internet subscribers. Knowing Comcast like I do, their business plan might be to offer low cost streaming cable while in turn raising the cable internet costs. This would be a much bigger deal if they'd offer the service regardless of internet provider.

 
I'm fine with only at home. Just want to be able to watch....you know....TV on my.....you know......TV. If I can get my locals and HBO this way (easily, on all my TVs) and then get Slight for ESPNs and a few other cable channels I'm done. Of course that's already $30 a month at the very least, and it's only $40 a month to have "TV" on top of my internet service with these guys anyway.
$10 is $10 and does that $40 include HBO? I hear what you are saying, but, the good news is that they are reacting to the competition and competition leads to lower overall consumer costs. It's starting to be much less of a monopoly than it used to be.

 
I'm fine with only at home. Just want to be able to watch....you know....TV on my.....you know......TV. If I can get my locals and HBO this way (easily, on all my TVs) and then get Slight for ESPNs and a few other cable channels I'm done. Of course that's already $30 a month at the very least, and it's only $40 a month to have "TV" on top of my internet service with these guys anyway.
$10 is $10 and does that $40 include HBO? I hear what you are saying, but, the good news is that they are reacting to the competition and competition leads to lower overall consumer costs. It's starting to be much less of a monopoly than it used to be.
It doesn't, but I already have Amazon Prime which has a lot of past HBO shows. It does include a lot of other channels that I do watch on occasion, though. But I get what you're saying about another step in the right direction.

 
Has MyGica been mentioned at all in this thread? A friend just told me he bought one and I had no idea what it was until I looked it up. Kinda like a Roku on steroids, but maybe more of an extension to your phone? I only read a little into it but seemed like more work than I really care to get into. Can someone explain the differences of having one of these versus having a Roku or Chromecast?

 
Can someone provide the link again to determining how many channels you are likely to get OTA? I can find a few via google, but I liked the one that was posted in here (if anyone knows, or can find it).
Tvfool.com will show you OTA channels and direction of each channel's broadcast antenna from your location.
 
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Good Posting Judge said:
Anyone have VUE? I am sick of the f'ing OTA antenna.
Answering my own question, apparently it's available to me. Seems pretty good so far, I really like the interface (I'm on a 7 day trial) and the connection seems much more reliable than Sling via the Roku 2 (although I've heard the 3 is better).

Getting the network stations, again, without an OTA antenna is crucial. An OTA just isn't going to work for us and the ridge we live on. It also has the local Comcast sports channels, so local bases/hockey/basketball games, which I don't think the other cord-cutting options can provide.

It's not going to be a massive cost-savings over just getting a standard triple-play package from Comcast, but we're less entwined with Comcast and there's some money saved, so it looks like it could be a net-positive.

 
Good Posting Judge said:
Anyone have VUE? I am sick of the f'ing OTA antenna.
Answering my own question, apparently it's available to me. Seems pretty good so far, I really like the interface (I'm on a 7 day trial) and the connection seems much more reliable than Sling via the Roku 2 (although I've heard the 3 is better).

Getting the network stations, again, without an OTA antenna is crucial. An OTA just isn't going to work for us and the ridge we live on. It also has the local Comcast sports channels, so local bases/hockey/basketball games, which I don't think the other cord-cutting options can provide.

It's not going to be a massive cost-savings over just getting a standard triple-play package from Comcast, but we're less entwined with Comcast and there's some money saved, so it looks like it could be a net-positive.
Only available in NY, LA, Phi, Chi and SF. In bed with Showtime for ~$10. Comcast is going to start streaming locals in Chi, Sea and Boston this fall. Hopefully all these choices are available to more people soon. :thumbup:

 
Do any of these alternatives have Bravo network? The only thing keeping us from cutting the cable is the trash my wife watches on Bravo.

 
I've heard you guys mention something called Raspberry Pi 2 in here for anyone interested and also an Amazon Prime member it will be on their "Prime Day" sale in about 30 minutes.

 
So the Mobie line of products is also showing up all over the Prime Day deals at substantial markdowns. Are they worth it for Roku owners?

 
HBO now available in the Google Play and Amazon App store for android computers and tablets. Coming soon to Amazon fire and android tv devices.
Any word if they have reached a deal with Roku?
I haven't heard anything. Several months ago they were content on letting everyone know you could get it through Sling tv on Roku. Now that the other devices are getting HBO Now without Sling they might follow suit.

 
Comcast hoping that getting into the streaming tv business in 2016 will generate $1.2 billion by 2020 to help offset the loss of growth in pay for cable tv.
they're just going to raise the cost of their ISP. they're promoting the hell out of their new internet speeds. with net neutrality still an issue, they're going to squeeze every nickel and dime out of consumers. their streaming business will likely look a Frankenstein of Hulu and their StreamPix.

 
Comcast hoping that getting into the streaming tv business in 2016 will generate $1.2 billion by 2020 to help offset the loss of growth in pay for cable tv.
they're just going to raise the cost of their ISP. they're promoting the hell out of their new internet speeds. with net neutrality still an issue, they're going to squeeze every nickel and dime out of consumers. their streaming business will likely look a Frankenstein of Hulu and their StreamPix.
I agree. There are some articles that say they might offer it up to people that subscribe to other internet providers at some point because that's what everyone else is doing.

 
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Do you get hbo go access if you buy hbo through sling?
No, but, sling is "on-the-go" access so you still have HBO and all the other channels when traveling etc. The limit with Sling is one stream per account at a time. So while you can watch it while traveling, someone at home couldn't watch it at the same time.

 
Colts Win said:
tonydead said:
Colts Win said:
Do you get hbo go access if you buy hbo through sling?
No, but, sling is "on-the-go" access so you still have HBO and all the other channels when traveling etc. The limit with Sling is one stream per account at a time. So while you can watch it while traveling, someone at home couldn't watch it at the same time.
So why wouldn't it just be better to get hbo now?
It would be if you didn't want the 23-24 other channels Sling has in their base package and if HBO Now was available for all your devices. Although it's supposedly coming soon; HBO Now currently doesn't support most of the TV boxes/devices.

Personally, now that I have Kodi running, I'm going to see how much I use either over the next couple of weeks. I'll most likely get rid of HBO and maybe Sling too.

 
So is a Roku stick and an XBox One a good start towards cutting the cable? OTA won't really work in my location according to most of the charts linked in here. Thinking about reducing to a bare bones cable package and bumping my internet speeds.

 
I got my Fire Stick and installed Plex - how do I get streaming sports on there? A video would be ideal, but my google skillz are failing me. Or Kodi - I thought they were the same thing, but I'm dumb.

 
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Hulu Plus v. Netflix - which would you choose?
As best I can tell, the appeal of Hulu Plus is shows that are currently running a day or two later. I have both and definitely prefer Netflix. IMO, better selection of previous seasons of shows, and a better selection of movies.
So its interesting.

We decided to drop directv, and went with both netflix and hulu plus. One of the things I noticed with Hulu Plus, after the fact, is that it seems that many of the shows current shows can't be streamed directly to the TV. Not a deal killer, as we have apple tv, so I can stream something to my mac air, and use airplay to put it on the TV, but a little annoying.

So far, we have definitely used netflix more - but most of the current shows are on hiatus until January, so we may use hulu more then.
Hard to believe its been 18 months without cable/directv. I can't think of a single moment where we looked back and wished we had cable. And we don't have nearly the set up that a lot of you have - just netflix/hulu and that has been enough for us and two kids.

 

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