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We've cut the cable (4 Viewers)

eoMMan said:
How much are you guys paying monthly for internet?

Who do you use as your provider?
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Spectrum (Charter renamed), $59.99 monthly, not on a promotional rate.  I got a notice today that it's rising to $64.99.

Speedtest.net says I have 58Mbps download and 5.8 Mbps upload.

 
Cut the cable and went with the HD receiver and Hulu combination.  It's been two weeks and I haven't missed it for a second

my bill went from $143 (and about to jump to $163) to $59 plus $12 for Hulu plus taxes.  Figure $80 or so 

 
Righetti said:
Cut the cable and went with the HD receiver and Hulu combination.  It's been two weeks and I haven't missed it for a second

my bill went from $143 (and about to jump to $163) to $59 plus $12 for Hulu plus taxes.  Figure $80 or so 
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Does that include Internet

 
I went to the Verizon store tonight to upgrade my plan to unlimited.  I went from 8gb to unlimited data for pretty much the same price and when my wife's N5 gets paid off  ($175) my bill will go down  $29. Anyway,  the sales lady was asking about my home Internet and offered me This for  $20 more dollars a month  to replace my TIME WARNER Internet.  Now I use SlingTV and Amazon Prime and was wondering if this thing would work for me. I have my doubts but really have no clue.  My N3 doesn't get the best reception in the house. I have to have my phone in certain spots to get reception but my wife's N5 gets pretty good reception throughout.  I have a metal roof which I think is part of the problem.  Can anyone offer any input on this? 

Maybe I will put this in the Android thread as well. 

 
Getting closer to cutting the cord. Want to go with Amazon Fire and Playstation Vue. But hit a roadblock. The newest Fire TV has no audio outputs, just the HDMI. I run HDMI from my cable box to the TV for picture and then component from the cable box to my AV Receiver for surround sound. So unless I missing something, I pretty much have to go with the Roku Ultra which still has the Digital Optical Output, right?

 
ConstruxBoy said:
Getting closer to cutting the cord. Want to go with Amazon Fire and Playstation Vue. But hit a roadblock. The newest Fire TV has no audio outputs, just the HDMI. I run HDMI from my cable box to the TV for picture and then component from the cable box to my AV Receiver for surround sound. So unless I missing something, I pretty much have to go with the Roku Ultra which still has the Digital Optical Output, right?
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new receiver with hdmi in and out?

 
Thought I may have to do that, but then how does that work with HDMI from two different sources (Blu Ray/Streaming box) both going to the receiver? I assume it's just one in, one out?

 
In The Zone said:
I went to the Verizon store tonight to upgrade my plan to unlimited.  I went from 8gb to unlimited data for pretty much the same price and when my wife's N5 gets paid off  ($175) my bill will go down  $29. Anyway,  the sales lady was asking about my home Internet and offered me This for  $20 more dollars a month  to replace my TIME WARNER Internet.  Now I use SlingTV and Amazon Prime and was wondering if this thing would work for me. I have my doubts but really have no clue.  My N3 doesn't get the best reception in the house. I have to have my phone in certain spots to get reception but my wife's N5 gets pretty good reception throughout.  I have a metal roof which I think is part of the problem.  Can anyone offer any input on this? 

Maybe I will put this in the Android thread as well. 
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if i'm understanding this you would get rid of home internet and go strictly with a mobile hotspot?

it could work but the connections speed would probably be less stable.  If you stream a lot wouldn't risk it.  Edited to add the below.  So in summary it wouldn't work for anyone who streams a lot.

"4G data speeds will apply for the first 10GBs when on an unlimited plan with an internet only device. If the 10GBs in LTE has been met, the jetpack will be reduced to 3G speeds for the remainder of the billing cycle"

 
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ILUVBEER99 said:
if i'm understanding this you would get rid of home internet and go strictly with a mobile hotspot?

it could work but the connections speed would probably be less stable.  If you stream a lot wouldn't risk it.
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I doubt that's what they were suggested.   With the unlimited you only guaranteed 4g for the first 22 gigs.  

 
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ILUVBEER99 said:
if i'm understanding this you would get rid of home internet and go strictly with a mobile hotspot?

it could work but the connections speed would probably be less stable.  If you stream a lot wouldn't risk it.  Edited to add the below.  So in summary it wouldn't work for anyone who streams a lot.

"4G data speeds will apply for the first 10GBs when on an unlimited plan with an internet only device. If the 10GBs in LTE has been met, the jetpack will be reduced to 3G speeds for the remainder of the billing cycle"
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Thanks for responding. This is a copy and paste from my post in the Android thread. 

 

Thanks for the response. The ##### at the Verizon store said that the speeds would go from 4G LTE to just regular 4G. Imagine that. 

After reading your response and watching a couple of YouTube videos I decided to just stick with TWC for now. If I didn't stream I would definitely think about the Jetpack/ Hotspot for the house. If anyone is interested here are the 2 videos that I watched and helped me make my decision.












 


 







 



 




 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 




 
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joker said:
The Archer C3150 is currently $139.99 on Amazon, and has free shipping for Prime members. This wireless router has very positive reviews from what I can see - does anyone here have one? If so, how is it?

Archer C3150 on Amazon

I'm going to move to a separate DSL modem and wireless router, and am thinking this would be a good one to get if it's as good as the reviews say. Currently I use a Centurylink combo modem & router, and my coverage and speed is just ok. Upgrading the modem and router should give me much better results, right? I'm in a three level house that doesn't have a major interference problem.
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I recently got this router: https://www.amazon.com/Linksys-Dual-Band-Wireless-MU-MIMO-EA7300/dp/B01JOXW58I/ref=sr_1_4?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1488243247&sr=1-4&keywords=linksys+router

Do I like it?  Well.. I have Spectrum (Time Warner) and I pay $60ish a month for internet.  Had a 10 year old router that was getting me 26Mb/s and figured it was time to replace it.  So I put in this router and BOOM.. instant 265Mb/s.  It covers the whole house and broadcasts 4 networks (regular and 5G private and guest).  Great router.

 
Garrett said:
PS Vue has been good/reliable so far.  I just started testing it recently, but it does mention an NFL Redzone option as well.
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I bought the RZ this past season and it worked  perfectly  for $40 for the season.  

It broadcasts Scott Hanson's version  which I prefer also.  

It has been more than a year now since I cut the cable and I picked up ps vue during football season for the red zone but otherwise I've loved saving more than $100 each ninth.  It's been a great experience 

 
17seconds said:
I recently got this router: https://www.amazon.com/Linksys-Dual-Band-Wireless-MU-MIMO-EA7300/dp/B01JOXW58I/ref=sr_1_4?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1488243247&sr=1-4&keywords=linksys+router

Do I like it?  Well.. I have Spectrum (Time Warner) and I pay $60ish a month for internet.  Had a 10 year old router that was getting me 26Mb/s and figured it was time to replace it.  So I put in this router and BOOM.. instant 265Mb/s.  It covers the whole house and broadcasts 4 networks (regular and 5G private and guest).  Great router.
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Thanks - I'm definitely interested as I didn't buy anything as of yet. Any issues with iPhones dropping like some of the critical reviews state? I have three of them in my house.

 
joker said:
Thanks - I'm definitely interested as I didn't buy anything as of yet. Any issues with iPhones dropping like some of the critical reviews state? I have three of them in my house.
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No iPhone users in my house

 
17seconds said:
I recently got this router: https://www.amazon.com/Linksys-Dual-Band-Wireless-MU-MIMO-EA7300/dp/B01JOXW58I/ref=sr_1_4?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1488243247&sr=1-4&keywords=linksys+router

Do I like it?  Well.. I have Spectrum (Time Warner) and I pay $60ish a month for internet.  Had a 10 year old router that was getting me 26Mb/s and figured it was time to replace it.  So I put in this router and BOOM.. instant 265Mb/s.  It covers the whole house and broadcasts 4 networks (regular and 5G private and guest).  Great router.
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i am in the same place as the bolded (TW spectrum and about 28mb/s). I am a prime member and will give this a try.Thanks for posting!

 
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Next question for you brilliant folks:

I get 100 Mbps, or close to it, wired. But only 52-53 Mbps wireless. I do have a nice router (WRT 1900 AC). But I seem to think there is some limit, maybe 54Mbps, on the receiving devices. Is that possible? 

 
Cord = CUT. Got tired of my bill inching up every few months, so got pissed off and canceled it. Shipped back my DVR and mini cable converter boxes yesterday  :thumbup:

Picked up a digital antenna but it didn't work. The box looked to have been open (maybe a return that they put back on the shelf). It was only a $20 one though, as all my towers (according to tvfool) are within 40 miles. I looked around in here but couldn't find any recommendations on antennas (I'm sure they're in here, just couldn't find them). There were a few different ones from $12 to $60 at Walmart. Any advice?

 
Nathan R. Jessep said:
Cord = CUT. Got tired of my bill inching up every few months, so got pissed off and canceled it. Shipped back my DVR and mini cable converter boxes yesterday  :thumbup:

Picked up a digital antenna but it didn't work. The box looked to have been open (maybe a return that they put back on the shelf). It was only a $20 one though, as all my towers (according to tvfool) are within 40 miles. I looked around in here but couldn't find any recommendations on antennas (I'm sure they're in here, just couldn't find them). There were a few different ones from $12 to $60 at Walmart. Any advice?
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got this one and love it...pulling in crystal clear from 40 miles away and that's just with hooking it to TV and laying on the bed near the window (only use to watch Steelers games). Eventually will mount it on roof or in attic

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00ZI9LWS2/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

 
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We cut the cord recently and honestly, I've been disappointed with the experience. I'm tempted to say "#### it" and go back to paying a little more for Comcast cable. My thoughts/experiences:

1. We bought multiple amplified Leaf indoor antennas for the different TVs in the house. They all say they get twenty something channels but the majority of the channels suck (Spanish, local, etc). And the major local channels  (Fox, NBC, ABC, CBS) all don't come in reliably. We tried adjusting the antenna with no luck.

2. We signed up for Sling TV and the layout sucks. Maybe I have to play around with it but I really liked how the Comcast guide showed all the channels with all the upcoming listings. Sling TV seems to be scattered. Also, I was really disappointed to see that when you get a network with Sling TV, such as NBC, you don't get the local NBC. No local channels for the major networks.

Maybe we'll look into the YouTube TV service just announced but overall, this blows.

 
eoMMan said:
We cut the cord recently and honestly, I've been disappointed with the experience. I'm tempted to say "#### it" and go back to paying a little more for Comcast cable. My thoughts/experiences:

1. We bought multiple amplified Leaf indoor antennas for the different TVs in the house. They all say they get twenty something channels but the majority of the channels suck (Spanish, local, etc). And the major local channels  (Fox, NBC, ABC, CBS) all don't come in reliably. We tried adjusting the antenna with no luck.

2. We signed up for Sling TV and the layout sucks. Maybe I have to play around with it but I really liked how the Comcast guide showed all the channels with all the upcoming listings. Sling TV seems to be scattered. Also, I was really disappointed to see that when you get a network with Sling TV, such as NBC, you don't get the local NBC. No local channels for the major networks.

Maybe we'll look into the YouTube TV service just announced but overall, this blows.
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I hear you man. My experience is the total opposite. I bought 2 of these bundles when they went on sale. I live probably 10-15 miles, as the crow flies, away from my local stations and have no problem getting channels from the antenna. I also get more channels than that though. I usually get between 25-33 channels depending on which way the wind is blowing that day.

I also have been using SlingTV off and on. I just signed up for 2 months and am waiting on my free Roku to arrive so I can utilize SlingTV on a 3rd television. I agree somewhat about the layout somewhat but I got use to it pretty quick. Another option is PlaystationVue and it sounds like it is more of what you are describing. It has a program guide that is laid out pretty nice and neat. I suggest giving their 7 day free trial a go and see for yourself. They even have a "DVR" which is cloud based. It cost a little more than Sling TV but it's still not a bad deal. My wife actually prefers this over SlingTV.  

 
Oh yeah, it also doesn't hurt that TWC never came to unhook my cable so I get a lot of channels already but they aren't in HD. I also can't get the SECN through basic TWC so that means I need SlingTV for Gamecock basketball and baseball as well as some football. If it weren't for that I would probably just stick with the "free" cable.

 
I've been lurking in this thread for a few weeks as I prepare to make this plunge and it's been a wealth of information.  However, I'm not tech savvy at all and it's a bit overwhelming so I just want to make sure I got this right.

I'll be using FIOS 50/50 for internet, I already have Netflix and Amazon Prime, and I'll be going with one of the streaming services.  I have one smart TV with Roku installed and a dumb TV with a Fire Stick, is there anything else I need?

I see people suggesting an OTA antenna for basic cable channels in addition to a streaming service (Sling, Vue, DirectTv Now), but why is this necessary if the streaming services carry those channels?  I'm in a major market (NYC) if that matters.

For streaming, I'm leaning towards the Vue because it seems to have everything I'd want aside from Comedy Central, with the DVR capability and Redzone offering.  It seems like people have better things to say about the interface compared to sling and directtv as well.  Aside from perhaps a lower price, what am I missing out on with Vue vs. one of the other services?

 
eoMMan said:
We cut the cord recently and honestly, I've been disappointed with the experience. I'm tempted to say "#### it" and go back to paying a little more for Comcast cable. My thoughts/experiences:

1. We bought multiple amplified Leaf indoor antennas for the different TVs in the house. They all say they get twenty something channels but the majority of the channels suck (Spanish, local, etc). And the major local channels  (Fox, NBC, ABC, CBS) all don't come in reliably. We tried adjusting the antenna with no luck.

2. We signed up for Sling TV and the layout sucks. Maybe I have to play around with it but I really liked how the Comcast guide showed all the channels with all the upcoming listings. Sling TV seems to be scattered. Also, I was really disappointed to see that when you get a network with Sling TV, such as NBC, you don't get the local NBC. No local channels for the major networks.

Maybe we'll look into the YouTube TV service just announced but overall, this blows.
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Antennas can be tricky with locals. It can be a pain in some places, and how much effort you put in will depend on whether or not it's worth it to you. For most locations, I'd say it's worth it though, even if it means buying an outdoor antenna and paying someone else to fool with it.  Even it it's a few hundred bucks, that's just a couple of cable bills. Indoor antennas are really just the tip of the iceberg, so if they don't work for you, I still wouldn't give up. But again, that's up to you if you want to go down that road. It was a cinch at home, but a pain in the ### at work. Worth it to me, but maybe not for you.

I'm a happy Sling customer, but it's probably the worst overall for most people (I just don't care that much and I'd rather pay $20-25 for the inferior streaming service). Certainly, others are worth checking out before you give up streaming. I do hear the YouTube TV does come with locals, but I have no idea how that works out (I won't look into it much as I have no problem with locals).

 
Gordon09 said:
I've been lurking in this thread for a few weeks as I prepare to make this plunge and it's been a wealth of information.  However, I'm not tech savvy at all and it's a bit overwhelming so I just want to make sure I got this right.

I'll be using FIOS 50/50 for internet, I already have Netflix and Amazon Prime, and I'll be going with one of the streaming services.  I have one smart TV with Roku installed and a dumb TV with a Fire Stick, is there anything else I need?

I see people suggesting an OTA antenna for basic cable channels in addition to a streaming service (Sling, Vue, DirectTv Now), but why is this necessary if the streaming services carry those channels?  I'm in a major market (NYC) if that matters.

For streaming, I'm leaning towards the Vue because it seems to have everything I'd want aside from Comedy Central, with the DVR capability and Redzone offering.  It seems like people have better things to say about the interface compared to sling and directtv as well.  Aside from perhaps a lower price, what am I missing out on with Vue vs. one of the other services?
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What is your "gotta have it" viewing? I mean, at its most basic. Be specific, because some people nowadays are following years-long serialized dramas, where others want to watch the Food Network. If you're like many here, you have to make a choice on live sports.

If you're in NYC, it would seem to me like an OTA antenna would get you all of your locals/network channels. I'd start there and build up if local/network stuff is important.

 
BroncoFreak_2K3 said:
Thanks to tonydead for putting this all together:

First over the air channels (OTA).  You can get, and maybe already do, all the local channels OTA in high definition.  You’ll also get more than you suspect if you haven’t tuned in to OTA for many years, most places have at least 40 channels available.  All you need for this is a HD antenna and a 21st Century tv.  Very few flat panel tvs were ever made without an HD receiver so the only tvs you would have to buy a HD receiver box for are the old CRT tvs if you still have any.  To help you find out how strong your OTA signals are and where to point your antenna go here: Link..  the strength of the signal will help you determine what type of antenna you need.  Follow the directions at the bottom of the website page after you've found the signals for your address.

Recommended Roof mount models: Vinegard

Recommended Indoor models: Mohu Leaf

When you have everything hooked up, connect the antenna coax to the coax input to each tv and scan for channels.  A couple of notes about coax; the longer the runs the more your signal degrades and you’ll also lose another 9db every time you go through a splitter.  High quality cable and connectors count too.  If you use a roof antenna where cable runs are long and have more than one split look into amplifiers for the signal.

Everything Else:

For everything else you’ll need a secondary devise to stream the streaming services that are vailable. Let’s take a look at your choices:

Home Theatre Personal Computer (HTPC).  This is the best device because it can do everything, however, it will cost more and takes some tech savvy to set up.  The advantages are Personal Video Recording (PVR) OTA, movie and show streaming over your home network and will include a OTA channel card.  (Most people overlook this last advantage.  If you use OTA with any of the tv devices like Roku or Firestick they do NOT come with a coax-in so you end up having to switch inputs to switch back and forth from OTA and your other channels/services.)  You can build your own HTPC, convert an old computer you might have on hand or find one of the many that are commercially available. 

Roku 3, this is probably your best bet for a plug and play devise.

Firestick.  These are Android and they are left open for 3rd party development and applications.  You can “sideload” any .APK application, even those not found in the google store.

TV Boxes.  There are many boxes that offer a nice in between HTPC and Roku/Firestick including Amazon’s Fire TV and Roku 4 both available supporting 4000K.  These add some additional features like limited internet access and games.  Generally speaking the sticks are wifi only and sometimes not as responsive as the Roku/Fire boxes.

XBOX/Playstation.  If you’re a gamer most of the popular services are available to stream through your gaming console.

Streaming devices update:  Roku 4 and new versions of Fire TV available.

Streaming Services:

Playstation’s Vue.  For $30/month (unless you are in one of the role out cities where you get local channels, but have to pay $10 more a month)  you get around 60 channels including espn, espn 2, amc, Discovery, several news channels, etc.  Plus you can buy higher tier packages with more channels up to around 100 channels.  Vue, though, unlike Sling TV below is limited to playstaion and amazon fire devices currently. 

Sling TV. For $20/month you get 23 channels and counting including espn, espn2, amc, food network, A&E, history channel, TNT, HGTC, etc.  Plus you can buy packages for an additional $5/month whose categories include news, kids, or movies to add more channels.  You can also get a firestick for free or a Roku for cheap with a prepaid 3 months.

Netflix.  Netflix huge database of available movies still towers over anything Hulu or Amazon Prime offers.  Surprisingly though where Hulu and Amazon once might have an edge for tv shows Netflix is excelling with its Netflix Original Series that are prime time quality shows available only on Netflix.

Hulu and Amazon Prime.  For past shows and movies these two services are about equal.  However, if you order more than once or twice a year from Amazon the $99/year for free shipping includes a subscription to Amazon prime and makes this a choice a no-brainer.

Hulu Update:  Hulu has launched several of its own Original Series tv shows.  They also claim to have more of a movie library than Netflix now.

HBONOW.  Hbo became the first major cable subscriber channel to offer streaming services without a cable provider subscription.  It is available through SlingTV for $15/mo or you can get it stand alone for the same price.  Showtime and others have quickly followed suit.

Streaming Services Update:  Directv and Youtube television streaming services coming soon. 

Plex: 

Plex is a server for your computer that if you have anything recorded; tv shows, movies, music, home movies you can stream them to your Roku, firestick, phone or ipad through the Plex app.

FreeTV:

Maybe you’ve heard about something called Kodi.  Kodi is open source home theatre software that you can install on computing devices like a HTPC.  Being a home theatre software it allows for installation of third party streaming apps like the streaming services noted above.  But, there is something more.  There are other addons out there that find an abundance of streams that are available on the internet.  With the right combination of addons the availability of streams for previously recorded tv shows and movies is unlimited.  There are also addons for live tv and sports, however, the live tv streams quality and reliability seem to vary more than the previously recorded content so your mileage may vary.

Currently the most popular and reliable addon for tv shows and movies is Exodus.  Follow this guide to install Kodi and then Exodus onto a firestick.

1- Download the ARM version for Android here.

2- Sideload it onto your firestick by following this.

3- Install the fusion installer by following this.

4- Then addon installer.

5- Currently the best addon is Exodus.

Kodi Update:  There is an easier way to install and update Kodi without having to sideload.  Follow the first half of this video: Link

There are also custom builds available that make customizing Kodi and installing all the addons you’d ever want in one single installation.  There is one on the second half of the video above and another popular one showed in this video: Link

Hardware Update:

Recommend minimum wifi router of 802.11n specifications for wireless streaming.

Recommend cable modem of DOCSIS 3.0 or later mainly because most internet service providers don’t support anything less.
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thought I'd bump this post for any newbs... good info here.

Is the Mohu Leaf still a recommended indoor antenna?

 
Gordon09 said:
I've been lurking in this thread for a few weeks as I prepare to make this plunge and it's been a wealth of information.  However, I'm not tech savvy at all and it's a bit overwhelming so I just want to make sure I got this right.

I'll be using FIOS 50/50 for internet, I already have Netflix and Amazon Prime, and I'll be going with one of the streaming services.  I have one smart TV with Roku installed and a dumb TV with a Fire Stick, is there anything else I need?

I see people suggesting an OTA antenna for basic cable channels in addition to a streaming service (Sling, Vue, DirectTv Now), but why is this necessary if the streaming services carry those channels?  I'm in a major market (NYC) if that matters.

For streaming, I'm leaning towards the Vue because it seems to have everything I'd want aside from Comedy Central, with the DVR capability and Redzone offering.  It seems like people have better things to say about the interface compared to sling and directtv as well.  Aside from perhaps a lower price, what am I missing out on with Vue vs. one of the other services?
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Looks like sling has NYC locals.  You might not need to mess with an antenna if you're set on using one of the streaming services that provide locals (right now locals are in select areas depending on the streaming service).  Other than that you have all the hardware you need.

 
JoeSteeler said:
Not sure how long this will last but...

Amazon offering 20% Off Select Computer and Networking Accessories with promo code GDC20. Shipping is free with prime or on orders $35+. 

https://slickdeals.net/f/9820431-computer-networking-accessories-tp-link-logitech-netgear-more-20-off?src=featured
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I'm guessing "select" is the key word here.  Didn't work on anything I need.  Dropped $70 for a AC1200 wireless access point for the far end of the house.

The AC1200 has a lot more volume on the 2.4hz band compared to the AC1750 (my router is AC1750) so I have plenty on the 5hz band already.  Hoping this works out to be a nice balance for all the crap I have streaming over wifi.

 
Google announced yesterday that it's base price is going to be $35 and will include unlimited cloud DVR storage for files up to 9 months old.

Don't forget about Hulu live tv that is in round 4 of it's beta, can't possibly be too much longer.

Both will probably be out this spring.

 
The FCC voted unanimously to allow roll out of ATSC 3.0 transmission standard.  What does that mean?  That means that free 4K television is going to be delivered to your OTA antenna.

 
Righetti said:
Cut the cable and went with the HD receiver and Hulu combination.  It's been two weeks and I haven't missed it for a second

my bill went from $143 (and about to jump to $163) to $59 plus $12 for Hulu plus taxes.  Figure $80 or so 
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Shark move is to share logins with a few friends.  Netflix shutter Hulu prime etc

 
tonydead said:
The FCC voted unanimously to allow roll out of ATSC 3.0 transmission standard.  What does that mean?  That means that free 4K television is going to be delivered to your OTA antenna.
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Will any 4k tv be capable?  Meaning do current 4k TVS have TV tuners that are only 1080/720, or are they capable of a 4k signal if one existed?

 
tonydead said:
Meh, I posted that before I tried it out.  tvfool.com is still way better.
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How familiar with antennas are you?  I still have cable as I'm like 60 miles and behind a few mountains from the TV towers I'm hoping to get.  That link above says that even at 10 stories I won't be able to get them all, though TV fool does list them.  Anyway, would a huge winegard antenna (possibly with amps, which I don't get) work, or I've seen these new smaller "150 mile" models that are only like $35 on Amazon.  Seems too good to be true...

 
matttyl said:
How familiar with antennas are you?  I still have cable as I'm like 60 miles and behind a few mountains from the TV towers I'm hoping to get.  That link above says that even at 10 stories I won't be able to get them all, though TV fool does list them.  Anyway, would a huge winegard antenna (possibly with amps, which I don't get) work, or I've seen these new smaller "150 mile" models that are only like $35 on Amazon.  Seems too good to be true...
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I'm no expert, but having tested a few antennas being 30-40 miles away from towers, my opinion is you'll waste your time trying given the circumstances you described. If you do try it and succeed, my advice would be to immediately buy a lottery ticket too. 

 
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Politician Spock said:
I'm no expert, but having tested a few antennas being 30-40 miles away from towers, my opinion is you'll waste your time trying given the circumstances you described. If you do try it and succeed, my advice would be to immediately buy a lottery ticket too. 
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I'm kinda thinking the same.  I have seen other houses with antennas in my area, though - but obviously have no idea how successful they have been with them (they've all been very large ones).  If I could get my locals via antenna (Fox, NBC, CBS, ABC, and even PBS) I'd be much more able to cut the TV cord (would still need comcast for high speed internet, though). 

 
Walking Boot said:
For the cord-cutters who have OTA and still want a DVR, the TiVo Roamio 1TB version with lifetime service was $305 earlier this morning, but it appears to be sold out at the moment. Could be worth keeping an eye on it through the day and in the near future if it dips that low again.
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I am a huge Tivo fan. Have lifetime subscriptions on two units that just use OTA. 

 
Walking Boot said:
Used to be a huge fan. Bought the basic one in 2001 with a lifetime sub. Upgraded it in 2007 to the HD version (Series3 HD), which they sold for $300 and transferred the existing lifetime sub over to as part of the deal. This one, though, uses cable card. It might be able to do OTA too, I just never tried. Pretty good deal, have had 16 years of service on the one subscription, instead of paying for 192 monthly fees. I still have the DVR Expander hard drive for the first box, but, don't have any need for it anymore. That first one I'd cracked open a few times, added new hard drives to, and even a second modem after the first one died. That thing could record 1000 hours of TV no problem.

My main gripe, though, is they bricked the online programming option in the HD version when the new TiVo came out (the Bolt). I used to be able to use my phone and/or webpage on Tivo.com to program my DVR, so I could add season passes and record shows remotely. They re-did the website for the Bolt release, advertised it as "the TiVo you can program remotely!!!", and turned off support for older DVRs which could do that already. Might not ever buy a new TiVo again after that, honestly.
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I just remotely programmed my Roamio Tivo using the Android app.

:shrug:  

 
Sites like TVFool say I'm only 14 miles from the transmitter for all the major networks, so I should be getting everything with no problem, even with a basic indoor antenna 6 feet off the ground.  No such luck.  There's a small hill between my house and the transmitter, and it seems to be just enough to make it difficult.  Every indoor antenna I've tried (even the more expensive powered ones) can only receive 2 of the major networks at most without having to readjust the position.  Perhaps this problem would be solved if I mounted something on the roof, but I'm not super handy, I'd probably need to hire a guy to mount it and run the cable. But I have a free Tivo a relative gave me that includes lifetime service pre-paid.  It's several years old, but dual-tuner HD, so good enough for what we need. 

 
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