What a Ted Cruz victory would mean (1 Viewer)

[SaintsInDome2006]

what's the difference between BO (had he been born abroad) and cruz though?

I don't understand that legal situation

Has to do with the age of the mother at the time of birth. With respect to married parents of a child born abroad where only one parent is a U.S. citizen, the requirement at that time was that the U.S. citizen parent had to have spent 10 years in the U.S. prior to the child's birth, at least 5 of which were after the parent's 14th birthday. Barack's mom was 18 when he was born, so she didn't fulfill the 5 year requirement. Cruz's mom was way older when he was born and had more than met the years requirement.

geez louise!

it is a stupid law none the less, but i look forward to seeing the birther backpedal

It's worth discussing. There's no 'natural born' requirement for Congressmen, is there?

Obama was 'natural born' all the way, but people have a right to demand every little thing from their presidents-to-be, George Bush's driving and military records to Clinton's ROTC records to Kerry's college grades (IMO) to McCain's birth certificate as well.

 

[drummer]

I think Cruz just plays the Idiot Pulpit because that is what sells. I wouldn't vote for him in the next presidential election because he is still too young in the game and don't really trust him, but he does know how to bang the Idiot Box.

 

[Sinn Fein]

Maybe we should just annex Canada to solve his eligibility woes...

 

[B-Deep]

what's the difference between BO (had he been born abroad) and cruz though?

I don't understand that legal situation

Has to do with the age of the mother at the time of birth. With respect to married parents of a child born abroad where only one parent is a U.S. citizen, the requirement at that time was that the U.S. citizen parent had to have spent 10 years in the U.S. prior to the child's birth, at least 5 of which were after the parent's 14th birthday. Barack's mom was 18 when he was born, so she didn't fulfill the 5 year requirement. Cruz's mom was way older when he was born and had more than met the years requirement.

geez louise!

it is a stupid law none the less, but i look forward to seeing the birther backpedal

It's worth discussing. There's no 'natural born' requirement for Congressmen, is there?

Obama was 'natural born' all the way, but people have a right to demand every little thing from their presidents-to-be, George Bush's driving and military records to Clinton's ROTC records to Kerry's college grades (IMO) to McCain's birth certificate as well.

I think the entire idea is dumb

if someone has been a citizen for a year and they are elected president so be it

there's nothing that makes a natural citizen or even a lifelong citizen of the US any better than anyone else

 

[B-Deep]

but i also think renouncing his Canadian citizenship is not necessary

 

[Fennis]

Ted Cruz and I both have just about the same chance of being president.

 

[Sinn Fein]

I look at the US president as no different than a class president, there are so few people who actually want the job, why quibble over a few measly qualifications. The president himself as such little influence over anything, that it seems like a waste of time to get so worked up about it.

 

[B-Deep]

Ted Cruz and I both have just about the same chance of being president.

where were YOU born?

 

[Fennis]

Ted Cruz and I both have just about the same chance of being president.

where were YOU born?

[SIZE=10.5pt]I renounce New Jersey![/SIZE]

 

[Sinn Fein]

Cruz, would be a shoo-in for the first president of the combined Canamerico - assuming Cuba is included, kind of like Hawaii.

 

[Fennis]

Cruz, would be a shoo-in for the first president of the combined Canamerico - assuming Cuba is included, kind of like Hawaii.

can we pay him in ameros?

 

[Sinn Fein]

Cruz, would be a shoo-in for the first president of the combined Canamerico - assuming Cuba is included, kind of like Hawaii.

can we pay him in ameros?

Bitcoins

 

[FlapJacks]

what's the difference between BO (had he been born abroad) and cruz though?

I don't understand that legal situation

Cruz isn't black.The concerns raised about Obama would never have mattered if he had white skin.

 

[Joe Summer]

but i also think renouncing his Canadian citizenship is not necessary

It's necessary if he wants to win the Republican nomination.

 

[B-Deep]

but i also think renouncing his Canadian citizenship is not necessary

It's necessary if he wants to win the Republican nomination.

shouldn't be

it is completely inconsequential

 

[Sand]

but i also think renouncing his Canadian citizenship is not necessary

It's necessary if he wants to win the Republican nomination.

shouldn't be

it is completely inconsequential

Due to the fact that about 95% of the mainstream press looking for any excuse to dig into him, yes it is.

 

[B-Deep]

but i also think renouncing his Canadian citizenship is not necessary

It's necessary if he wants to win the Republican nomination.

shouldn't be

it is completely inconsequential

Due to the fact that about 95% of the mainstream press looking for any excuse to dig into him, yes it is.

So?

he was born in Canada and thus has dual citizenship, lots of people are like that

if the law says he can be president despite not being born here than he can, and dual citizenship should not matter

i think the guy is a dooshbag, but the dual citizenship thing is silly to me. Now if the law says he has to be born in the US that is different (though i think that law is dumb as well) but does anyone really think Cruz is working somehow in the best interests of our neighbors to the orth rather than the US?

ludicrous

i do get that it will be an issue, but it should not be

he is no less american for being a dual citizen

 

[FlapJacks]

Ted Cruz is probably the most ridiculous, idiotic United States senator in my lifetime. Not since Joe McCarthy have we had to endure such an incredible clown. There are worse people in the House (think Michelle Bachmann) but usually the Senate is reserved for more responsible types. Not this time. Between Cruz and Rand Paul (much smarter, but also loony tunes) the Senate is in a bad place right now. Shameful and embarrassing.

Do you have an example?

Dershowitz considered Cruz "off the charts brilliant"

Why do you hate liberterians?

 

[Todd Andrews]

Cruz = Super KooK

 

[bigbottom]

Ted Cruz is probably the most ridiculous, idiotic United States senator in my lifetime. Not since Joe McCarthy have we had to endure such an incredible clown. There are worse people in the House (think Michelle Bachmann) but usually the Senate is reserved for more responsible types. Not this time. Between Cruz and Rand Paul (much smarter, but also loony tunes) the Senate is in a bad place right now. Shameful and embarrassing.

Do you have an example?

Dershowitz considered Cruz "off the charts brilliant"

Why do you hate liberterians?

Basically, Ted's MO is to be a hyper-aggressive Tea Party type and blast every Republican who isn't as hyper-aggressive as he is. He's making enemies within his party, but there's no doubt he's making a lot of noise for a Freshman Senator.

 

[Go DC Yourself]

Ted Cruz is probably the most ridiculous, idiotic United States senator in my lifetime. Not since Joe McCarthy have we had to endure such an incredible clown. There are worse people in the House (think Michelle Bachmann) but usually the Senate is reserved for more responsible types. Not this time. Between Cruz and Rand Paul (much smarter, but also loony tunes) the Senate is in a bad place right now. Shameful and embarrassing.

Do you have an example?

Dershowitz considered Cruz "off the charts brilliant"

Why do you hate liberterians?

Being a brilliant law student (and lawyer) and an idiotic and ridiculous senator are not mutually exclusive. He's smart enough to realize there's a market for being ridiculous these days.

 

[Joe Summer]

He looks like a young Pat Buchanan.

 

[FlapJacks]

Ted Cruz is probably the most ridiculous, idiotic United States senator in my lifetime. Not since Joe McCarthy have we had to endure such an incredible clown. There are worse people in the House (think Michelle Bachmann) but usually the Senate is reserved for more responsible types. Not this time. Between Cruz and Rand Paul (much smarter, but also loony tunes) the Senate is in a bad place right now. Shameful and embarrassing.

Do you have an example?

Dershowitz considered Cruz "off the charts brilliant"

Why do you hate liberterians?

Being a brilliant law student (and lawyer) and an idiotic and ridiculous senator are not mutually exclusive. He's smart enough to realize there's a market for being ridiculous these days.

Do you have an example?

 

[drummer]

He looks like a young Pat Buchanan.

He does.

 

[Lutherman2112]

Q: “Why don’t we impeach [Obama]?”

Senator Cruz: “It’s a good question, and I’ll tell you the simplest answer: To successfully impeach a president you need the votes in the U.S. Senate.”

http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2013/08/20/the-dangers-facing-ted-cruz/

I guess evidence of a crime doesn't matter. Senator Cruz is smart enough to know there are no crimes, but played it off as a partisan impossibility.

 

[FlapJacks]

Q: “Why don’t we impeach [Obama]?”

Senator Cruz: “It’s a good question, and I’ll tell you the simplest answer: To successfully impeach a president you need the votes in the U.S. Senate.”

http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2013/08/20/the-dangers-facing-ted-cruz/

I guess evidence of a crime doesn't matter. Senator Cruz is smart enough to know there are no crimes, but played it off as a partisan impossibility.

If that's the worst you've got, then that's weakest sauce

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

what's the difference between BO (had he been born abroad) and cruz though?

I don't understand that legal situation

Has to do with the age of the mother at the time of birth. With respect to married parents of a child born abroad where only one parent is a U.S. citizen, the requirement at that time was that the U.S. citizen parent had to have spent 10 years in the U.S. prior to the child's birth, at least 5 of which were after the parent's 14th birthday. Barack's mom was 18 when he was born, so she didn't fulfill the 5 year requirement. Cruz's mom was way older when he was born and had more than met the years requirement.

geez louise!

it is a stupid law none the less, but i look forward to seeing the birther backpedal

It's worth discussing. There's no 'natural born' requirement for Congressmen, is there?

Obama was 'natural born' all the way, but people have a right to demand every little thing from their presidents-to-be, George Bush's driving and military records to Clinton's ROTC records to Kerry's college grades (IMO) to McCain's birth certificate as well.

I think the entire idea is dumb

if someone has been a citizen for a year and they are elected president so be it

there's nothing that makes a natural citizen or even a lifelong citizen of the US any better than anyone else

Except for the president - but not Congressmen (?) - it's in the Constitution.

Take out if that's what the people want but it takes a 2/3's vote.

But besides that, I say if anyone running for anything from county clerk to US president wants to be elected or even on the ballot they should be required to provide by some date basic documentation and all the inormation about their past that people want, from college transcripts to military records to criminal records to passport history. It's a position of public trust so we should know we are trusting.

 

[Lutherman2112]

Q: “Why don’t we impeach [Obama]?”

Senator Cruz: “It’s a good question, and I’ll tell you the simplest answer: To successfully impeach a president you need the votes in the U.S. Senate.”

http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2013/08/20/the-dangers-facing-ted-cruz/

I guess evidence of a crime doesn't matter. Senator Cruz is smart enough to know there are no crimes, but played it off as a partisan impossibility.

If that's the worst you've got, then that's weakest sauce

OK

Senator Cruz has served as Solicitor General of Texas, Office of Policy Planning at the Federal Trade Commission, an Associate Deputy Attorney General at the United States Department of Justice, and served as Domestic Policy Advisor to U.S. President George W. Bush on the 2000 Bush-Cheney campaign.

Instead of detailing the "high crimes" perpetrated, Cruz simply falls back to a position of "we don't have the votes."

Good gravy, I love Cruz. I sincerely hope he is the GOPs presidential candidate.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Q: “Why don’t we impeach [Obama]?”

Senator Cruz: “It’s a good question, and I’ll tell you the simplest answer: To successfully impeach a president you need the votes in the U.S. Senate.”

http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2013/08/20/the-dangers-facing-ted-cruz/

I guess evidence of a crime doesn't matter. Senator Cruz is smart enough to know there are no crimes, but played it off as a partisan impossibility.

If that's the worst you've got, then that's weakest sauce

OK

Senator Cruz has served as Solicitor General of Texas, Office of Policy Planning at the Federal Trade Commission, an Associate Deputy Attorney General at the United States Department of Justice, and served as Domestic Policy Advisor to U.S. President George W. Bush on the 2000 Bush-Cheney campaign.

Instead of detailing the "high crimes" perpetrated, Cruz simply falls back to a position of "we don't have the votes."

Good gravy, I love Cruz. I sincerely hope he is the GOPs presidential candidate.

Cruz's looniness aside... The House impeaches but the Senate convicts. He said this at the Montgomery County GOP Dinner. That's as much of a homer crowd as Obama's "clinging to guns and religion comment" and that's the kind of place where candidates just say anything to give the people what they paid for. How many elected progs were running around screaming for Bush to be impeached for a war that Obama continued for another 3-4 years? Smart phones have made sound bites everywhere for everyone.

I'm guessing the GOP is pulling for the Demo Palin Biden.

 

[Lutherman2112]

Q: “Why don’t we impeach [Obama]?”

Senator Cruz: “It’s a good question, and I’ll tell you the simplest answer: To successfully impeach a president you need the votes in the U.S. Senate.”

http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2013/08/20/the-dangers-facing-ted-cruz/

I guess evidence of a crime doesn't matter. Senator Cruz is smart enough to know there are no crimes, but played it off as a partisan impossibility.

If that's the worst you've got, then that's weakest sauce

OK

Senator Cruz has served as Solicitor General of Texas, Office of Policy Planning at the Federal Trade Commission, an Associate Deputy Attorney General at the United States Department of Justice, and served as Domestic Policy Advisor to U.S. President George W. Bush on the 2000 Bush-Cheney campaign.

Instead of detailing the "high crimes" perpetrated, Cruz simply falls back to a position of "we don't have the votes."

Good gravy, I love Cruz. I sincerely hope he is the GOPs presidential candidate.

Are you kidding? Cruz's looniness aside... He said this at the Montgomery County GOP Dinner. That's as much of a homer crowd as Obama's "clinging to guns and religion comment" and that's the kind of place where candidates just say anything to give the peoople what they paid for. How many elected progs were running around screaming for Bush to be impached for a war that Obama continued for another 3-4 years? Smart phones have made sound bites everywhere for everyone.

That's the point. He will say anything to appease the teatards, especially if it is beyond reason. Instead of saying "The president hasn't done anything illegal," he said "we don't have the votes."

Senator Cruz is a highly educated lawyer, and chose not to address the legal aspects, but the partisan.

Sorry if that goes over your head.

 

[drummer]

Q: “Why don’t we impeach [Obama]?”

Senator Cruz: “It’s a good question, and I’ll tell you the simplest answer: To successfully impeach a president you need the votes in the U.S. Senate.”

http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2013/08/20/the-dangers-facing-ted-cruz/

I guess evidence of a crime doesn't matter. Senator Cruz is smart enough to know there are no crimes, but played it off as a partisan impossibility.

If that's the worst you've got, then that's weakest sauce

OK

Senator Cruz has served as Solicitor General of Texas, Office of Policy Planning at the Federal Trade Commission, an Associate Deputy Attorney General at the United States Department of Justice, and served as Domestic Policy Advisor to U.S. President George W. Bush on the 2000 Bush-Cheney campaign.

Instead of detailing the "high crimes" perpetrated, Cruz simply falls back to a position of "we don't have the votes."

Good gravy, I love Cruz. I sincerely hope he is the GOPs presidential candidate.

Are you kidding? Cruz's looniness aside... He said this at the Montgomery County GOP Dinner. That's as much of a homer crowd as Obama's "clinging to guns and religion comment" and that's the kind of place where candidates just say anything to give the peoople what they paid for. How many elected progs were running around screaming for Bush to be impached for a war that Obama continued for another 3-4 years? Smart phones have made sound bites everywhere for everyone.

That's the point. He will say anything to appease the teatards, especially if it is beyond reason. Instead of saying "The president hasn't done anything illegal," he said "we don't have the votes."

Senator Cruz is a highly educated lawyer, and chose not to address the legal aspects, but the partisan.

Sorry if that goes over your head.

Is this just another way of being slippery?

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Q: “Why don’t we impeach [Obama]?”

Senator Cruz: “It’s a good question, and I’ll tell you the simplest answer: To successfully impeach a president you need the votes in the U.S. Senate.”

http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2013/08/20/the-dangers-facing-ted-cruz/

I guess evidence of a crime doesn't matter. Senator Cruz is smart enough to know there are no crimes, but played it off as a partisan impossibility.

If that's the worst you've got, then that's weakest sauce

OK

Senator Cruz has served as Solicitor General of Texas, Office of Policy Planning at the Federal Trade Commission, an Associate Deputy Attorney General at the United States Department of Justice, and served as Domestic Policy Advisor to U.S. President George W. Bush on the 2000 Bush-Cheney campaign.

Instead of detailing the "high crimes" perpetrated, Cruz simply falls back to a position of "we don't have the votes."

Good gravy, I love Cruz. I sincerely hope he is the GOPs presidential candidate.

Are you kidding? Cruz's looniness aside... He said this at the Montgomery County GOP Dinner. That's as much of a homer crowd as Obama's "clinging to guns and religion comment" and that's the kind of place where candidates just say anything to give the peoople what they paid for. How many elected progs were running around screaming for Bush to be impached for a war that Obama continued for another 3-4 years? Smart phones have made sound bites everywhere for everyone.

That's the point. He will say anything to appease the teatards, especially if it is beyond reason. Instead of saying "The president hasn't done anything illegal," he said "we don't have the votes."

Senator Cruz is a highly educated lawyer, and chose not to address the legal aspects, but the partisan.

Sorry if that goes over your head.

No, that's fine, it's pretty eye level for me. My guess is he really believes the president has broken the law, that that merits impeachment, and my guess is that some in the crowd agree with him, but my point is that we are in a congressional world where Cruzes exist on the left and the right. There were definitely congressional Democrats who believed Bush should have been impeached, some believe he should be prosecuted now. It would be nice if we lived in a world where the idea that a president (R or D) could be impeached for breaking his oath was taken seriously, but that's not the world we live in. In that respect Cruz's concept is liberal-libertarian and idealistic, just as much as those progressives who felt the same about Bush and Cheney.

For example:

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=362407&page=1#entry7667858

 

[Todd Andrews]

Q: “Why don’t we impeach [Obama]?”

Senator Cruz: “It’s a good question, and I’ll tell you the simplest answer: To successfully impeach a president you need the votes in the U.S. Senate.”

http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2013/08/20/the-dangers-facing-ted-cruz/

I guess evidence of a crime doesn't matter. Senator Cruz is smart enough to know there are no crimes, but played it off as a partisan impossibility.

If that's the worst you've got, then that's weakest sauce

OK

Senator Cruz has served as Solicitor General of Texas, Office of Policy Planning at the Federal Trade Commission, an Associate Deputy Attorney General at the United States Department of Justice, and served as Domestic Policy Advisor to U.S. President George W. Bush on the 2000 Bush-Cheney campaign.

Instead of detailing the "high crimes" perpetrated, Cruz simply falls back to a position of "we don't have the votes."

Good gravy, I love Cruz. I sincerely hope he is the GOPs presidential candidate.

Are you kidding? Cruz's looniness aside... He said this at the Montgomery County GOP Dinner. That's as much of a homer crowd as Obama's "clinging to guns and religion comment" and that's the kind of place where candidates just say anything to give the peoople what they paid for. How many elected progs were running around screaming for Bush to be impached for a war that Obama continued for another 3-4 years? Smart phones have made sound bites everywhere for everyone.

That's the point. He will say anything to appease the teatards, especially if it is beyond reason. Instead of saying "The president hasn't done anything illegal," he said "we don't have the votes."

Senator Cruz is a highly educated lawyer, and chose not to address the legal aspects, but the partisan.

Sorry if that goes over your head.

No, that's fine, it's pretty eye level for me. My guess is he really believes the president has broken the law, that that merits impeachment, and my guess is that some in the crowd agree with him, but my point is that we are in a congressional world where Cruzes exist on the left and the right. There were definitely congressional Democrats who believed Bush should have been impeached, some believe he should be prosecuted now. It would be nice if we lived in a world where the idea that a president (R or D) could be impeached for breaking his oath was taken seriously, but that's not the world we live in. In that respect Cruz's concept is liberal-libertarian and idealistic, just as much as those progressives who felt the same about Bush and Cheney.

For example:

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=362407&page=1#entry7667858

What law do you "guess" Cruz and some in the audience believe the President has violated?

 

[timschochet]

Ted Cruz is probably the most ridiculous, idiotic United States senator in my lifetime. Not since Joe McCarthy have we had to endure such an incredible clown. There are worse people in the House (think Michelle Bachmann) but usually the Senate is reserved for more responsible types. Not this time. Between Cruz and Rand Paul (much smarter, but also loony tunes) the Senate is in a bad place right now. Shameful and embarrassing.

Do you have an example?

Dershowitz considered Cruz "off the charts brilliant"

Why do you hate liberterians?

Well, I am a huge fan of Dershowitz, but I'm not seeing this. Maybe Cruz WAS brilliant as a Harvard law student (I'm assuming that's how they know each other) but I've only had the opportunity to watch him as a politician, and he has made one absurd comment after another. Again, it's stuff you would expect to hear from Bachmann, but Cruz is a senator.

As for the libertarian question, it's really depressing to me that in today's world Tea Partiers, nativists, gun rights activists, and other extremists refer to themselves as libertarians. It's a very sad misunderstanding of the word, IMO.

 

[FlapJacks]

Q: “Why don’t we impeach [Obama]?”

Senator Cruz: “It’s a good question, and I’ll tell you the simplest answer: To successfully impeach a president you need the votes in the U.S. Senate.”

http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2013/08/20/the-dangers-facing-ted-cruz/

I guess evidence of a crime doesn't matter. Senator Cruz is smart enough to know there are no crimes, but played it off as a partisan impossibility.

If that's the worst you've got, then that's weakest sauce

OK

Senator Cruz has served as Solicitor General of Texas, Office of Policy Planning at the Federal Trade Commission, an Associate Deputy Attorney General at the United States Department of Justice, and served as Domestic Policy Advisor to U.S. President George W. Bush on the 2000 Bush-Cheney campaign.

Instead of detailing the "high crimes" perpetrated, Cruz simply falls back to a position of "we don't have the votes."

Good gravy, I love Cruz. I sincerely hope he is the GOPs presidential candidate.

Are you kidding? Cruz's looniness aside... He said this at the Montgomery County GOP Dinner. That's as much of a homer crowd as Obama's "clinging to guns and religion comment" and that's the kind of place where candidates just say anything to give the peoople what they paid for. How many elected progs were running around screaming for Bush to be impached for a war that Obama continued for another 3-4 years? Smart phones have made sound bites everywhere for everyone.

That's the point. He will say anything to appease the teatards, especially if it is beyond reason. Instead of saying "The president hasn't done anything illegal," he said "we don't have the votes."

Senator Cruz is a highly educated lawyer, and chose not to address the legal aspects, but the partisan.

Sorry if that goes over your head.

It's an off the cuff half-quote...good grief

Also, given the current state of the IRS and Benghazi scandals, I don't know that you can honestly say that you know that the President hasn't done anything illegal.

 

[FlapJacks]

As for the libertarian question, it's really depressing to me that in today's world Tea Partiers, nativists, gun rights activists, and other extremists some FFA posters refer to themselves as libertarians. It's a very sad misunderstanding of the word, IMO.

FYP

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Ted Cruz is probably the most ridiculous, idiotic United States senator in my lifetime. Not since Joe McCarthy have we had to endure such an incredible clown. There are worse people in the House (think Michelle Bachmann) but usually the Senate is reserved for more responsible types. Not this time. Between Cruz and Rand Paul (much smarter, but also loony tunes) the Senate is in a bad place right now. Shameful and embarrassing.

Do you have an example?

Dershowitz considered Cruz "off the charts brilliant"

Why do you hate liberterians?

Being a brilliant law student (and lawyer) and an idiotic and ridiculous senator are not mutually exclusive. He's smart enough to realize there's a market for being ridiculous these days.

Do you have an example?

Not an example, a career...

A full 54 percent of Ted Cruz's statements have been rated "false" or "pants on fire" by PolitiFact. Another 20 percent are only "half true." That's 74 percent of Cruz's statements failing the truth test. We're used to politicians lying to us, of course. But the frequency of Cruz's lies is actually staggering. Compare Cruz's 74 percent lying rate with Rick Perry's 48 percent and John Cornyn's 56 percent.

Cruz is in rarified company with Michele Bachmann as one of this country's biggest political liars. Whenever Ted Cruz opens his mouth, there's a 3/4 chance he's lying.

 

[John Maddens Lunchbox]

I have some insight here.My good friend (the one who writes movies that I've discussed here before) was Cruz's freshman roommate at Princeton. He says unabashedly that Cruz is the single biggest ###hole walking the Earth today. I remember talking to him when I was a senior in HS and he was a frosh at Princeton and him telling me that he was loving school except that his roommate was a total ##### that he hated from day 1. He said the guy was the single most insufferable, pompous, self-serving jerk he's ever had the displeasure of knowing. He recently used the words "awful, awful human being" to describe him.So there's that.

Now THAT, I believe.

The guy wrote Scary Movie 6 so you know he tells it like it is.

He's quoted a few times in this article on Cruz : http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/08/19/ted-cruz-at-princeton-creepy-sometimes-well-liked-and-exactly-the-same.html

The thing that concerns me most here are these quotes

“He's not someone who shifts in the wind,” Panton says. “The Ted Cruz that I knew at 17 years old is exactly the same as the Ted Cruz I know at 42 years old. He was very conservative then, and an outspoken conservative. He remains strongly conservative today."

The time-capsule quality of Cruz’s politics is lost on no one who knew him at Princeton, none of whom could point to a political position that he held 25 years ago that he does not seem to still hold today. For some, that amounts to a laudably consistent belief system. For others, it reveals a man of calcified thinking, dangerously impervious to facts, reality, and a changing world.
"More than anyone I knew, Ted seemed to have arrived in college with a fully formed worldview,” Butler College colleague Erik Leitch said. “And what strikes me now, looking at him as an adult and hearing the things he's saying, it seems like nothing has changed. Four years of an Ivy League education, Harvard Law, and years of life experience have altered nothing."

How can a human man not be influenced by 25 years on this earth as an adult and change their opinions on some things.

He appears to be the worst kind of zealot. Totally inflexible in their outlook and unwilling to consider other opinions.

Is the word dangerous too harsh?

 

[timschochet]

As for the libertarian question, it's really depressing to me that in today's world Tea Partiers, nativists, gun rights activists, and other extremists some FFA posters refer to themselves as libertarians. It's a very sad misunderstanding of the word, IMO.

FYP

If you support Ted Cruz's views in general, I don't believe you are a libertarian. Libertarians believe in free trade, open borders, immigration for everyone (including citizenship for illegals), legalization of drugs, the rights of gay people to marry, and the right of a woman to decide to do what she wants with her own body, which includes abortion on demand. So far as i know, Ted Cruz doesn't support any of these things. Neither do many of the people today who mistakenly call themselves libertarian. Do you?

 

[Sand]

So I turn on CSPAN tonight to watch a few seconds of the filibuster and Cruz is reading Dr. Seuss.

I love filibusters. I hope he breaks the record (Strom Thurmond?).

 

[Dr. Gobbler]

Let me tell you how misguided/stupid whomever the brain trust is that is guiding the Republican't Party. They think because this guy has a Hispanic last name that he has a shot at the presidency. They're going to trot this guy out and get Sgt. Slaughtered!

 

[eurotrashman]

So I turn on CSPAN tonight to watch a few seconds of the filibuster and Cruz is reading Dr. Seuss.

I love filibusters. I hope he breaks the record (Strom Thurmond?).

Is this technically a filibuster or a stupid waste of our ####### time?

 

[Steve Tasker]

Our tax dollars hard at work!!

I don't say this often, but I'd like to extend a heartfelt #### you to Senator Ted Cruz tonight.

 

[Sand]

Our tax dollars hard at work!!

I don't say this often, but I'd like to extend a heartfelt #### you to Senator Ted Cruz tonight.

Can I add ~30 #### yous (1 for every working day wasted) to Harry Reid for the useless Senate discussion of advancing gun control?

This is just a small waste of time. Harry wasted 2 ####### months on that bull####.

 

[bigbottom]

This is great stuff!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Gms4to8010

 

[timschochet]

This is just the preliminaries. The bill is going to be voted on tomorrow, and it's going to be returned to the House with funding for Obamacare included.

The real question is: will the House Republicans vote against the bill and allow the government to shut down over the issue of Obamacare? That's what they have promised to do. That's what they have told their Tea Party constituents, who widely seem to approve of this. Will the government shut down?

 

[badmojo1006]

This is great stuff!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Gms4to8010

Holy Crap, that is fantastic!

 

[BigSteelThrill]

So I turn on CSPAN tonight to watch a few seconds of the filibuster and Cruz is reading Dr. Seuss.

I love filibusters. I hope he breaks the record (Strom Thurmond?).

Is this technically a filibuster or a stupid waste of our ####### time?

The is the absolute best the conservatives can muster.

This is it. Their pinnacle.

 

[shader]

This is great stuff!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Gms4to8010

How embarrassing.

 

[32 Counter Pass]

what's the difference between BO (had he been born abroad) and cruz though?

I don't understand that legal situation

Has to do with the age of the mother at the time of birth. With respect to married parents of a child born abroad where only one parent is a U.S. citizen, the requirement at that time was that the U.S. citizen parent had to have spent 10 years in the U.S. prior to the child's birth, at least 5 of which were after the parent's 14th birthday. Barack's mom was 18 when he was born, so she didn't fulfill the 5 year requirement. Cruz's mom was way older when he was born and had more than met the years requirement.

geez louise!it is a stupid law none the less, but i look forward to seeing the birther backpedal

It's worth discussing. There's no 'natural born' requirement for Congressmen, is there?

Obama was 'natural born' all the way, but people have a right to demand every little thing from their presidents-to-be, George Bush's driving and military records to Clinton's ROTC records to Kerry's college grades (IMO) to McCain's birth certificate as well.

I think the entire idea is dumbif someone has been a citizen for a year and they are elected president so be it

there's nothing that makes a natural citizen or even a lifelong citizen of the US any better than anyone else

Oh goodie, we while we are in the process of changing the constitution I would like the revist the second amendment.