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What a Ted Cruz victory would mean (1 Viewer)

"It's all rushing back... the insincerity, the Kermit The Frog voice, the patronizing tone, the refusal to respect the pause that a PERIOD BETWEEN SENTENCES IS INTENDED TO PROVIDE, the preening narcissism, the absolute obliviousness..."

 
Sand said:
Steve Tasker said:
Our tax dollars hard at work!!

I don't say this often, but I'd like to extend a heartfelt #### you to Senator Ted Cruz tonight.
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Can I add ~30 #### yous (1 for every working day wasted) to Harry Reid for the useless Senate discussion of advancing gun control?

This is just a small waste of time. Harry wasted 2 ####### months on that bull####.
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Yes please. #### Harry Reid. #### all of em.

 
B-Deep said:
Sand said:
B-Deep said:
Joe Summer said:
B-Deep said:
but i also think renouncing his Canadian citizenship is not necessary
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It's necessary if he wants to win the Republican nomination.
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shouldn't be

it is completely inconsequential
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Due to the fact that about 95% of the mainstream press looking for any excuse to dig into him, yes it is.
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So?

he was born in Canada and thus has dual citizenship, lots of people are like that

if the law says he can be president despite not being born here than he can, and dual citizenship should not matter

i think the guy is a dooshbag, but the dual citizenship thing is silly to me. Now if the law says he has to be born in the US that is different (though i think that law is dumb as well) but does anyone really think Cruz is working somehow in the best interests of our neighbors to the orth rather than the US?

ludicrous

i do get that it will be an issue, but it should not be

he is no less american for being a dual citizen
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Many of the people he needs to vote for him just spent five years claiming Barack Obama was born in Kenya and that he faked his birth certificate and that he's a secret Muslim.

Ted denounced his Canadian citizenship because he knows a significant segment of his constituency is loony.

 
you can always tell who the left considers to be the biggest threats to their narrative by the amount of vitriol and hatred emitted towards that person.

you know, if you stop and think about what Cruz did/doing, its good for both sides. We have a congress that is at all time lows in approval, and moving lower in the eyes of the public which includes both libs and cons. Maybe shaking up business as usual is a good thing, eh? I'd like to see more of this pointless rambling if it energizes the bases of both sides of the aisle and shocks the establishment into action, that's a good thing.

 
tommyboy said:
you can always tell who the left considers to be the biggest threats to their narrative by the amount of vitriol and hatred emitted towards that person.

you know, if you stop and think about what Cruz did/doing, its good for both sides. We have a congress that is at all time lows in approval, and moving lower in the eyes of the public which includes both libs and cons. Maybe shaking up business as usual is a good thing, eh? I'd like to see more of this pointless rambling if it energizes the bases of both sides of the aisle and shocks the establishment into action, that's a good thing.
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Who are you referring to specifically when you say "the Left"?

 
bigbottom said:
tommyboy said:
you can always tell who the left considers to be the biggest threats to their narrative by the amount of vitriol and hatred emitted towards that person.

you know, if you stop and think about what Cruz did/doing, its good for both sides. We have a congress that is at all time lows in approval, and moving lower in the eyes of the public which includes both libs and cons. Maybe shaking up business as usual is a good thing, eh? I'd like to see more of this pointless rambling if it energizes the bases of both sides of the aisle and shocks the establishment into action, that's a good thing.
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Who are you referring to specifically when you say "the Left"?
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"Anyone who dislikes Ted Cruz".
 
tommyboy said:
you can always tell who the left considers to be the biggest threats to their narrative by the amount of vitriol and hatred emitted towards that person.

you know, if you stop and think about what Cruz did/doing, its good for both sides. We have a congress that is at all time lows in approval, and moving lower in the eyes of the public which includes both libs and cons. Maybe shaking up business as usual is a good thing, eh? I'd like to see more of this pointless rambling if it energizes the bases of both sides of the aisle and shocks the establishment into action, that's a good thing.
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Didn't hear him take on K Street - and I'm sure he's been visited by a few firms from that famous street carrying big bags of cash - and until he refuses the cash and starts calling everyone out on the carpet for it he's just as hearty windbag as the rest of them. K street IS the establishment.

 
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tommyboy said:
you can always tell who the left considers to be the biggest threats to their narrative by the amount of vitriol and hatred emitted towards that person.

you know, if you stop and think about what Cruz did/doing, its good for both sides. We have a congress that is at all time lows in approval, and moving lower in the eyes of the public which includes both libs and cons. Maybe shaking up business as usual is a good thing, eh? I'd like to see more of this pointless rambling if it energizes the bases of both sides of the aisle and shocks the establishment into action, that's a good thing.
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I guess that's one way to look at it. Just like Palin, right? Maybe it's just when politicians act like turds, people want to call them on it. And plenty of folks on the right are calling Cruz a turd as well. If I thought his intentions were in any way noble, I'd at least give him points for trying to shake stuff up, but he's just a guy pandering to the money that put him in office.

 
you can always tell who the left considers to be the biggest threats to their narrative by the amount of vitriol and hatred emitted towards that person.

you know, if you stop and think about what Cruz did/doing, its good for both sides. We have a congress that is at all time lows in approval, and moving lower in the eyes of the public which includes both libs and cons. Maybe shaking up business as usual is a good thing, eh? I'd like to see more of this pointless rambling if it energizes the bases of both sides of the aisle and shocks the establishment into action, that's a good thing.

Yeah....I know I felt real threatened when the Tea Party upset Mike Castle, a man who drew support from both sides of the aisle in my state, with Christine O'Donnell. I was REALLY concerned that she was going to win the Senate seat

Politicans like Cruz have their uses.....but not as the front and face of their Party.
 
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bigbottom said:
tommyboy said:
you can always tell who the left considers to be the biggest threats to their narrative by the amount of vitriol and hatred emitted towards that person.

you know, if you stop and think about what Cruz did/doing, its good for both sides. We have a congress that is at all time lows in approval, and moving lower in the eyes of the public which includes both libs and cons. Maybe shaking up business as usual is a good thing, eh? I'd like to see more of this pointless rambling if it energizes the bases of both sides of the aisle and shocks the establishment into action, that's a good thing.
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Who are you referring to specifically when you say "the Left"?
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chris matthews ie, there's lots of pundits from the left that hate cruz. there are also many on the right, or with an R behind their name that don't like him. There are people from the left of the scale in this thread that are ripping on cruz, which is kind of why this whole thread got started.

I like him. I think he's smart, and he's willing to ruffle feathers. This country is so f'd up politically right now, better to me to shake things up on both sides of the aisle and get away from the "business as usual" defeatism that has permeated Washington DC for 20 yrs.

 
tommyboy said:
I like him. I think he's smart, and he's willing to ruffle feathers. This country is so f'd up politically right now, better to me to shake things up on both sides of the aisle and get away from the "business as usual" defeatism that has permeated Washington DC for 20 yrs.
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Lets change it up, lets ruffle some feathers, lets have someone else say the same thing we've been saying for 3 decades that the majority still disagrees with.

 
tommyboy said:
bigbottom said:
tommyboy said:
you can always tell who the left considers to be the biggest threats to their narrative by the amount of vitriol and hatred emitted towards that person.

you know, if you stop and think about what Cruz did/doing, its good for both sides. We have a congress that is at all time lows in approval, and moving lower in the eyes of the public which includes both libs and cons. Maybe shaking up business as usual is a good thing, eh? I'd like to see more of this pointless rambling if it energizes the bases of both sides of the aisle and shocks the establishment into action, that's a good thing.
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Who are you referring to specifically when you say "the Left"?
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chris matthews ie, there's lots of pundits from the left that hate cruz. there are also many on the right, or with an R behind their name that don't like him. There are people from the left of the scale in this thread that are ripping on cruz, which is kind of why this whole thread got started.

I like him. I think he's smart, and he's willing to ruffle feathers. This country is so f'd up politically right now, better to me to shake things up on both sides of the aisle and get away from the "business as usual" defeatism that has permeated Washington DC for 20 yrs.
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Okay. I asked because there were also a number of "lefties" in this thread that were defending his credentials, which objectively are quite impressive.

 
tommyboy said:
bigbottom said:
tommyboy said:
you can always tell who the left considers to be the biggest threats to their narrative by the amount of vitriol and hatred emitted towards that person.

you know, if you stop and think about what Cruz did/doing, its good for both sides. We have a congress that is at all time lows in approval, and moving lower in the eyes of the public which includes both libs and cons. Maybe shaking up business as usual is a good thing, eh? I'd like to see more of this pointless rambling if it energizes the bases of both sides of the aisle and shocks the establishment into action, that's a good thing.
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Who are you referring to specifically when you say "the Left"?
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chris matthews ie, there's lots of pundits from the left that hate cruz. there are also many on the right, or with an R behind their name that don't like him. There are people from the left of the scale in this thread that are ripping on cruz, which is kind of why this whole thread got started.

I like him. I think he's smart, and he's willing to ruffle feathers. This country is so f'd up politically right now, better to me to shake things up on both sides of the aisle and get away from the "business as usual" defeatism that has permeated Washington DC for 20 yrs.
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Let's backtrack a bit:

1. Prior to being a Senator, Cruz was one of those who demonized Obamacare. He asked for and received thousands of dollars in donations, promising that it would help defeat Obamacare in Congress. Despite these efforts, Obamacare passed.

2. Cruz was one of those who asked for and received thousands of dollars in donations to challenge Obamacare in the courts, promising that it would be overturned in the Supreme Court. Despite these efforts, Obamacare was upheld.

3. While running for Senate, Cruz made Obamacare one of his main platforms, promising to destroy it if he got into office. He asked for and received thousands of dollars in donations for this purpose, and got elected. Despite this, Obamacare has not been destroyed.

4. Over the last few months Cruz has asked for and received thousands of dollars in donations to help him defeat Obamacare by leading an effort to defund it. This effort has failed; all the donors got for their money this time around was a 14 hour stage show by Cruz, putting himself in the national spotlight.

That's 4 times now that Cruz has raised money to defeat Obamacare, each time failing, yet each time advancing in personal popularity. Yet you like him and admire him. My question is: the next time he comes around asking for money in order to defeat Obamacare, how much will you dip into your pocketbook?

 
I don't think he's like Palin at all. He's much smarter than Palin. She fell into her 15 minutes of fame and is now cashing in on it.

Cruz is more calculating,he'll gladly be a roman candle,shoot up high and bright,fall back dim as a donut and then cash in on Fox,et.,all.

He doesn't give a rats behind about health care,the economy or his constituents,he's all about Ted.

 
Ted Cruz: "I don’t know about you, but I believe in the Jesus who died to save himself, not enable lazy followers to be dependent on him. He didn’t walk around all willy nilly just passing out free healthcare to those who were sick, or food to those who were hungry, or clothes to those in need. No, he said get up, brush yourself off, go into town and get a job, and as he hung on the cross he said,”I died so that I may live in eternity with my Father. If you want to join us you can die for yourself and your own sins. What do I look like, your savior or something?” That’s the Jesus I want to see brought back into our core values as a nation. That’s why we need to repeal Obamacare.”
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"Both Republicans and Democrats are in utter shock and disbelief at these remarks and pretty much almost everyone sans some Tea Party Republicans are distancing themselves from Cruz. Political pundits and Christian academics don’t even know what to say. However, what they do know, is that Senator Ted Cruz most certainly does not appear to be a Christian with the proper knowledge of the Bible." link

What do I look like, your savior or something? :lmao:

 
Ted Cruz Is Living On Another Planet

By Josh Barro | Business Insider

AP

This morning, Texas Sen. Ted Cruz ® spoke to the Values Voters Summit, and his speech was really weird. It's like he's living on another planet.

On Planet Cruz, there is a massive outpouring of public support for a government shutdown over Obamacare and it's scaring the hell out of Democrats.

Read how Cruz describes the view from his corner of the universe:

The nice thing is the left will always, always, always tell you who they fear. And they fear you. They fear the American people.

The fundamental problem in Washington is Washington is not listening to America. And what happens? This fight on Obamacare, we went and made the case to the American people, launched a national website: dontfundit.com. In a matter of just a few weeks, over 2 million Americans signed that petition on dontfundit.com.

It is because of you that the House of Representatives has been standing strong because the House has been listening to the people. It is because of you that for the past two months, the country is engaged in a national debate about the enormous harms Obamacare is causing, all of the millions of Americans who are losing their jobs, being pushed into part-time work, losing their health insurance. It is because of you that the American people are energized.

And we see the Obama administration defending positions that are utterly and completely unreasonable. Repeatedly the House of Representatives has acted to compromise, to fund vital priorities, and repeatedly President Obama and the Democrats have refused to negotiate.

Now I will note this afternoon – look, the Democrats are feeling the heat...

Listen, none of us know what’s going to happen on this Obamacare fight right now. In my view, the House of Representatives needs to keep doing what it’s been doing, which is standing strong. And that is the model for every other fight. We need no more Washington solutions. We need to go back to the American people.

Meanwhile, back on planet earth, the public hates the shutdown, Americans are 20 points more likely to blame Republicans for the shutdown than Obama, the Republican Party is scoring its worst poll numbers on record, Cruz's colleagues in the House and Senate hate him, and they're preparing to cave to the president by reopening the government and funding Obamacare.

Cruz is betting that his supporters are too stupid to notice that his strategy is failing and was doomed to fail. He's probably right.

Lots of people thought that when Mitt Romney lost the 2012 election after months of conservatives proclaiming that the polls were "skewed" and he was on course to win, the party's base might start to evaluate whether it misunderstood the world around it.

Remarkably, conservative delusion about facts on the ground is more intense than ever. The appetite for stories like the one Cruz is telling is unending, impervious to facts and sustainable no matter how far the Republican Party's poll numbers fall.

When constituencies become aggrieved minorities, seeing themselves as under attack by the establishment, they are vulnerable to hucksters like Cruz, because they disregard outside warnings and evidence that they are being had.

Usually, you see this on a smaller scale: Ohio's economically depressed Mahoning Valley sending Jim Traficant (D) to Congress for two decades even though he was obviously a corrupt politician with a mental disorder; New Orleans re-electing Bill Jefferson (D) to Congress after the FBI raided his home and found $90,000 in cash in his freezer, because maybe there was a perfectly good explanation for how it got there.

What's unprecedented about Cruz and similar Tea Party Republicans who make up about a third of the House Republican conference is that the aggrieved localized minority has gone national. Republicans once thought Fox News and the conservative media bubble were strategic advantages that allowed them to coordinate messages and organize voters; instead, they have allowed Republican voters to remain unaware that their favorite politicians are lying to them and alienating the median voter.

Losing one election wasn't nearly enough to wake Republican voters up to this problem. Ted Cruz isn't alone on his strange planet; much of the Republican Party is right there with him. And that's likely to be true for a long time.
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straight up preaching fear.

the Conservatives/GOP/Republicans have been called out on this previously, which they've usually denied or at least sidestepped. But not Cruz.

 
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Ignoramus said:
Evilgrin 72 said:
"It's all rushing back... the insincerity, the Kermit The Frog voice, the patronizing tone, the refusal to respect the pause that a PERIOD BETWEEN SENTENCES IS INTENDED TO PROVIDE, the preening narcissism, the absolute obliviousness..."
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:goodposting: Embarrassing.
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I was talking to my friend the other day and he was telling me that when he roomed with Cruz, Cruz used to snooze his alarm 8 to 10 times every morning. My buddy asked him several times to stop, he just kept doing it. Ultimately, my friend super-glued the snooze button down.

Is this the kind of inconsiderate ##### you guys really want in Washington? :lol:

 
Me: He was reading "Green Eggs and Ham." Not stopping any vote, he was just talking to hear himself talk.

Craig: I'm not sure he's ever opened his mouth for any other reason.

 
mon said:
Ted Cruz: "I don’t know about you, but I believe in the Jesus who died to save himself, not enable lazy followers to be dependent on him. He didn’t walk around all willy nilly just passing out free healthcare to those who were sick, or food to those who were hungry, or clothes to those in need. No, he said get up, brush yourself off, go into town and get a job, and as he hung on the cross he said,”I died so that I may live in eternity with my Father. If you want to join us you can die for yourself and your own sins. What do I look like, your savior or something?” That’s the Jesus I want to see brought back into our core values as a nation. That’s why we need to repeal Obamacare.”
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"Both Republicans and Democrats are in utter shock and disbelief at these remarks and pretty much almost everyone sans some Tea Party Republicans are distancing themselves from Cruz. Political pundits and Christian academics don’t even know what to say. However, what they do know, is that Senator Ted Cruz most certainly does not appear to be a Christian with the proper knowledge of the Bible." link

What do I look like, your savior or something? :lmao:
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His KooK Christianity is a beautiful thing.

 
mon said:
Ted Cruz: "I dont know about you, but I believe in the Jesus who died to save himself, not enable lazy followers to be dependent on him. He didnt walk around all willy nilly just passing out free healthcare to those who were sick, or food to those who were hungry, or clothes to those in need. No, he said get up, brush yourself off, go into town and get a job, and as he hung on the cross he said,I died so that I may live in eternity with my Father. If you want to join us you can die for yourself and your own sins. What do I look like, your savior or something? Thats the Jesus I want to see brought back into our core values as a nation. Thats why we need to repeal Obamacare.
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"Both Republicans and Democrats are in utter shock and disbelief at these remarks and pretty much almost everyone sans some Tea Party Republicans are distancing themselves from Cruz. Political pundits and Christian academics dont even know what to say. However, what they do know, is that Senator Ted Cruz most certainly does not appear to be a Christian with the proper knowledge of the Bible." linkWhat do I look like, your savior or something? :lmao:
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Holy sh**snacks, he actually said that? That's not from The Onion?

 
Homer J Simpson said:
mon said:
Ted Cruz: "I dont know about you, but I believe in the Jesus who died to save himself, not enable lazy followers to be dependent on him. He didnt walk around all willy nilly just passing out free healthcare to those who were sick, or food to those who were hungry, or clothes to those in need. No, he said get up, brush yourself off, go into town and get a job, and as he hung on the cross he said,I died so that I may live in eternity with my Father. If you want to join us you can die for yourself and your own sins. What do I look like, your savior or something? Thats the Jesus I want to see brought back into our core values as a nation. Thats why we need to repeal Obamacare.
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"Both Republicans and Democrats are in utter shock and disbelief at these remarks and pretty much almost everyone sans some Tea Party Republicans are distancing themselves from Cruz. Political pundits and Christian academics dont even know what to say. However, what they do know, is that Senator Ted Cruz most certainly does not appear to be a Christian with the proper knowledge of the Bible." linkWhat do I look like, your savior or something? :lmao:
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Holy sh**snacks, he actually said that? That's not from The Onion?
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it's satire

 
I don't know what all the fuss is about Teddy. He's Canadian,can't run for President. All the Birthers would be demanding to see his proof. Wouldn't they?

 
Rubi said:
I don't know what all the fuss is about Teddy. He's Canadian,can't run for President. All the Birthers would be demanding to see his proof. Wouldn't they?
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I still dont get this. the constitution says naturalized citizen. his parents are both american citizens. thus he is. it doesnt say born in usa. if a couple took a day trip from detroit to windsor and she goes into labor and delivers in windsor the child is still an american citizen.

I never understood the birther thing with obama. his mom is american so he is. regardless of where he was born. seems obvious.

 
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