What Democrats will be running against Hillary? (1 Viewer)

[SaintsInDome2006]

The more interesting question to me is: what if Hillary doesn't run? She may decide she doesn't want it. Maybe she wants to enjoy her 70s and doesn't cotton to being hated by half of the public. I couldn't blame her for that.

I think the biggest difference would be that Warren would be more likely to run if Hillary doesn't, and she'd likely become the early frontrunner due to picking up the women's vote.

I know liberals love her, and she seems decent and honest, but I just can't see her ever winning the nomination. Too much of an ideologue.

and she seems decent and honest

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

...

Joe Biden is an option just because he is Vice President. Joe Biden will never be President through an election.

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Oh yeah Joltin' Joe will run and it will be HI-larious.

Joe smoked Ryan in the VP Debate.

Yes, and Ryan smoked Obama in the Health Care Summit.

Who is talking about Obama here?

And who was talking the 2012 VP debates as relevant to what happens in 2016 prez race?

Because of the comment [SIZE=11.81px] Joe Biden will never be President through an election. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=11.81px]He seemed to hold his won in debates was my point.[/SIZE]

Oh yeah sure, I agree - Ryan came in with the super substantive detailed accountant's somber fiscal message approach, and Biden played Reagan to his Mondale, rolled his eyes, guffawed and smirked with a "howabout this guy" response and since everyone had low expectations I guess that was just great.

Ryan refused again, again, yet again to offer specifics on how he was going to pay for the "20 percent across-the-board tax cut?" It was one of the hammers in the VP debate that Biden used to discredit the Ryan Budget.

Do not remember this?

I tell you what, I think there's not much fun or worth rehashing a VP debate from 2012 now. Experience tells me that's an exercise in 'I heard x' and 'you heard y'. --- I tell you what, do you remember any Democratic primary debate that Biden ever came out looking good in???

 

[Flying Spaghetti Monster]

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Joe Biden is an option just because he is Vice President. Joe Biden will never be President through an election.

...

Oh yeah Joltin' Joe will run and it will be HI-larious.

Joe smoked Ryan in the VP Debate.

Yes, and Ryan smoked Obama in the Health Care Summit.

Who is talking about Obama here?

And who was talking the 2012 VP debates as relevant to what happens in 2016 prez race?

Because of the comment [SIZE=11.81px] Joe Biden will never be President through an election. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=11.81px]He seemed to hold his won in debates was my point.[/SIZE]

Oh yeah sure, I agree - Ryan came in with the super substantive detailed accountant's somber fiscal message approach, and Biden played Reagan to his Mondale, rolled his eyes, guffawed and smirked with a "howabout this guy" response and since everyone had low expectations I guess that was just great.

Ryan refused again, again, yet again to offer specifics on how he was going to pay for the "20 percent across-the-board tax cut?" It was one of the hammers in the VP debate that Biden used to discredit the Ryan Budget.

Do not remember this?

I tell you what, I think there's not much fun or worth rehashing a VP debate from 2012 now. Experience tells me that's an exercise in 'I heard x' and 'you heard y'. --- I tell you what, do you remember any Democratic primary debate that Biden ever came out looking good in???

I didn't watch the Democratic primary debates. And honestly I only caught about 12 of the GOP ones.

 

[Clifford]

If Hillary runs only someone from the left of her will try to run against her. It won't be Warren. She has made that pretty clear. Hillary is just another moderate republican in Democratic clothing. So all the corporate Dems will be thrilled with her. Only those of us who are really liberals will be looking for someone to move her to the left. There are a couple of governors I'd like to see run but the perception of Clinton's inevitability is going to cow a bunch of people. And it really pisses me off.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

Warren has been adamant about her lack of interest in the race and reiterated that lack of interest in an interview with the New York Times’ Jonathan Martin last month. But, things change in politics. Then-Illinois Sen. Barack Obama was similarly adamant about his lack of interest in running for president in 2008 — and we know how that turned out. (Worth noting: In the same interview in which she denied interest, Warren told Martin that “this country should not be run for the biggest corporations and largest financial institutions,” which wouldn’t be a bad message to carry forward in a 2016 Democratic primary fight. We’re not saying, we’re just saying….)

I could think of nothing funnier than Hildabeast getting her shot screwed by a black man, and then a woman 8 years later.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

If Hillary runs only someone from the left of her will try to run against her. It won't be Warren. She has made that pretty clear. Hillary is just another moderate republican in Democratic clothing. So all the corporate Dems will be thrilled with her. Only those of us who are really liberals will be looking for someone to move her to the left. There are a couple of governors I'd like to see run but the perception of Clinton's inevitability is going to cow a bunch of people. And it really pisses me off.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

Warren has been adamant about her lack of interest in the race and reiterated that lack of interest in an interview with the New York Times’ Jonathan Martin last month. But, things change in politics. Then-Illinois Sen. Barack Obama was similarly adamant about his lack of interest in running for president in 2008 — and we know how that turned out. (Worth noting: In the same interview in which she denied interest, Warren told Martin that “this country should not be run for the biggest corporations and largest financial institutions,” which wouldn’t be a bad message to carry forward in a 2016 Democratic primary fight. We’re not saying, we’re just saying….)

I could think of nothing funnier than Hildabeast getting her shot screwed by a black man, and then a woman 8 years later.

Ha, wait, Warren from Massachusetts? - That Warren?

Oh yeah that scares the GOP, please. She barely survived in MA.

 

[Clifford]

The GOP is more scared of itself than the other party, and with good reason.

 

[CBusAlex]

The more interesting question to me is: what if Hillary doesn't run? She may decide she doesn't want it. Maybe she wants to enjoy her 70s and doesn't cotton to being hated by half of the public. I couldn't blame her for that.

This is a woman who loves power.

She'll run.

Yeah. Retiring at 70 might be a reasonable thing for a normal person to do, but politicians are not normal people. You don't rise to the levels of power that Clinton has without a tremendous amount of ambition.

 

[Trey]

Where did the #1 Hillary fanboy Trey go? It's times like this we need his unwavering support.

LOL.

I did stick it out a while back in 08 didn't I??

2016 is Hillary's time should she decide to run. There will be a token challenge from the far left but the oxygen and endorsements will all be sucked up by then. Maybe someone trying to raise their profile for a shot at VP will test the waters but I don't see anyway this contest gets passed Super Tuesday.

Oh and by the way.. She would have been a much more effective President than Obama has to date.

 

[Eephus]

Where did the #1 Hillary fanboy Trey go? It's times like this we need his unwavering support.

LOL.

I did stick it out a while back in 08 didn't I??

2016 is Hillary's time should she decide to run. There will be a token challenge from the far left but the oxygen and endorsements will all be sucked up by then. Maybe someone trying to raise their profile for a shot at VP will test the waters but I don't see anyway this contest gets passed Super Tuesday.

Oh and by the way.. She would have been a much more effective President than Obama has to date.

Some Democrats with an eye toward 2020 might make an effort in order to establish themselves in Iowa and New Hampshire, particularly with the possibility that Clinton could be a one-term President. Fundraising might be tough though. I don't know which potential Democratic candidates have any kind of warchest.

 

[Flying Spaghetti Monster]

If Hillary runs only someone from the left of her will try to run against her. It won't be Warren. She has made that pretty clear. Hillary is just another moderate republican in Democratic clothing. So all the corporate Dems will be thrilled with her. Only those of us who are really liberals will be looking for someone to move her to the left. There are a couple of governors I'd like to see run but the perception of Clinton's inevitability is going to cow a bunch of people. And it really pisses me off.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

Warren has been adamant about her lack of interest in the race and reiterated that lack of interest in an interview with the New York Times’ Jonathan Martin last month. But, things change in politics. Then-Illinois Sen. Barack Obama was similarly adamant about his lack of interest in running for president in 2008 — and we know how that turned out. (Worth noting: In the same interview in which she denied interest, Warren told Martin that “this country should not be run for the biggest corporations and largest financial institutions,” which wouldn’t be a bad message to carry forward in a 2016 Democratic primary fight. We’re not saying, we’re just saying….)

I could think of nothing funnier than Hildabeast getting her shot screwed by a black man, and then a woman 8 years later.

Ha, wait, Warren from Massachusetts? - That Warren?

Oh yeah that scares the GOP, please. She barely survived in MA.

You mean when she unseated the GOP darling Scott Brown out of ted Kennedy's seat. EW is huge among young voters and even more so with women voters.

 

[-fish-]

Remember John Kerry? Yeah, that guy. If Clinton doesn't run, he may be the best the democratic party can offer.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

If Hillary runs only someone from the left of her will try to run against her. It won't be Warren. She has made that pretty clear. Hillary is just another moderate republican in Democratic clothing. So all the corporate Dems will be thrilled with her. Only those of us who are really liberals will be looking for someone to move her to the left. There are a couple of governors I'd like to see run but the perception of Clinton's inevitability is going to cow a bunch of people. And it really pisses me off.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

Warren has been adamant about her lack of interest in the race and reiterated that lack of interest in an interview with the New York Times’ Jonathan Martin last month. But, things change in politics. Then-Illinois Sen. Barack Obama was similarly adamant about his lack of interest in running for president in 2008 — and we know how that turned out. (Worth noting: In the same interview in which she denied interest, Warren told Martin that “this country should not be run for the biggest corporations and largest financial institutions,” which wouldn’t be a bad message to carry forward in a 2016 Democratic primary fight. We’re not saying, we’re just saying….)

I could think of nothing funnier than Hildabeast getting her shot screwed by a black man, and then a woman 8 years later.

Ha, wait, Warren from Massachusetts? - That Warren?

Oh yeah that scares the GOP, please. She barely survived in MA.

You mean when she unseated the GOP darling Scott Brown out of ted Kennedy's seat. EW is huge among young voters and even more so with women voters.

Yes, that, Brown a half-term Republican in Uncle Teddy's MA seat and she barely beat him, yikes, not good.

 

[Todd Andrews]

O'Malley won't run against Hillary. Not his style to go when it's "not his turn," just like when he didn't run for the Governor nomination when he was Mayor of Baltimore vs. the incumbent Lt. Governor. Her campaign was so disastrously incompetent that she achieved the virtually impossible, losing the Maryland governorship to a Republican, who O'Malley defeated after one term.

As a longtime Maryland liberal, let me say that O'Malley really sucks. There are many things I despise about him, but the worst is his overly portentous, insipid oratory. This was his classic at the 2004 national convention: "America the beautiful, whose alabaster cities gleam undimmed by human tears; oh, my friends, to govern is to choose."

I've honestly become convinced that O'Malley's not a real human being. He's some kind of damned hologram based only on Nicholas Sparks books.

He is awful, smarmy, phony, and ####### awful. Don't fall for it, guys & gals.

Yeah, he seems like hes a robot.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

I bet Julian Castro will be throwing his hat in the ring:

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/18/us/politics/san-antonio-mayor-to-lead-hud.html?_r=0

If the Clintons run again I would not be surprised if he is VP, and double especially if Marco Rubio is the GOP Prez or VP nominee.

 

[Todd Andrews]

Jim Webb is feeling out a run, too. I like him a lot.

I am going to make some very early predictions: Clinton will run with Webb, Tester or Schweitzer as VP in 2016.

 

[NCCommish]

Jim Webb is feeling out a run, too. I like him a lot.

I am going to make some very early predictions: Clinton will run with Webb, Tester or Schweitzer as VP in 2016.

I still don't think she can win the nom. She had it all last time money, momentum and name recognition. A relative rookie took her out despite those advantages including the dirty tricks they pulled. She is not as loved on the left as she is hated on the right which isn't helpful. She is just another 3rd way moderate republican and lots of us are done with that crap.

 

[Jackstraw]

Jim Webb is feeling out a run, too. I like him a lot.

I am going to make some very early predictions: Clinton will run with Webb, Tester or Schweitzer as VP in 2016.

I still don't think she can win the nom. She had it all last time money, momentum and name recognition. A relative rookie took her out despite those advantages including the dirty tricks they pulled. She is not as loved on the left as she is hated on the right which isn't helpful. She is just another 3rd way moderate republican and lots of us are done with that crap.

She crushes any likely opponent in the polls. If you're into that kind of thing. Only a little more than a year away from the nomination. Someone will have to make a move in a hurry. Personally I'd be FAR more committed to a Warren candidacy. Clinton I'll mail in the check. Warren I would help hide bodies for.

 

[NCCommish]

Jim Webb is feeling out a run, too. I like him a lot.

I am going to make some very early predictions: Clinton will run with Webb, Tester or Schweitzer as VP in 2016.

I still don't think she can win the nom. She had it all last time money, momentum and name recognition. A relative rookie took her out despite those advantages including the dirty tricks they pulled. She is not as loved on the left as she is hated on the right which isn't helpful. She is just another 3rd way moderate republican and lots of us are done with that crap.

She crushes any likely opponent in the polls. If you're into that kind of thing. Only a little more than a year away from the nomination. Someone will have to make a move in a hurry. Personally I'd be FAR more committed to a Warren candidacy. Clinton I'll mail in the check. Warren I would help hide bodies for.

Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton continues to lead the pack of Democratic presidential hopefuls, according to a new CNN/Opinion Research Corporation poll released Wednesday.

Clinton has a lead of about 15 percent, followed by Sen. Barack Obama in second place and former Vice President Al Gore and John Edwards tied for third.

If Gore sticks to his decision not to run, Clinton's lead would grow even larger, poll results show.

That was march of 2007. How did that end up working out for her?

 

[Rove!]

Jim Webb is feeling out a run, too. I like him a lot.

I am going to make some very early predictions: Clinton will run with Webb, Tester or Schweitzer as VP in 2016.

I still don't think she can win the nom. She had it all last time money, momentum and name recognition. A relative rookie took her out despite those advantages including the dirty tricks they pulled. She is not as loved on the left as she is hated on the right which isn't helpful. She is just another 3rd way moderate republican and lots of us are done with that crap.

She crushes any likely opponent in the polls. If you're into that kind of thing. Only a little more than a year away from the nomination. Someone will have to make a move in a hurry. Personally I'd be FAR more committed to a Warren candidacy. Clinton I'll mail in the check. Warren I would help hide bodies for.

Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton continues to lead the pack of Democratic presidential hopefuls, according to a new CNN/Opinion Research Corporation poll released Wednesday.

Clinton has a lead of about 15 percent, followed by Sen. Barack Obama in second place and former Vice President Al Gore and John Edwards tied for third.

If Gore sticks to his decision not to run, Clinton's lead would grow even larger, poll results show.

That was march of 2007. How did that end up working out for her?

her lead seems to be considerably more than 15, right now

Although, if a credible/big name challenger arises, the nom could be stolen from her.

When you think of what Hillary is famous for -- Hillarycare, VastRightWingConspiracy, Whitewater, Benghazi, Iraq war vote -- it's a resume of flops that leaves her open to attack....

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Jim Webb is feeling out a run, too. I like him a lot.

I am going to make some very early predictions: Clinton will run with Webb, Tester or Schweitzer as VP in 2016.

I still don't think she can win the nom. She had it all last time money, momentum and name recognition. A relative rookie took her out despite those advantages including the dirty tricks they pulled. She is not as loved on the left as she is hated on the right which isn't helpful. She is just another 3rd way moderate republican and lots of us are done with that crap.

She crushes any likely opponent in the polls. If you're into that kind of thing. Only a little more than a year away from the nomination. Someone will have to make a move in a hurry. Personally I'd be FAR more committed to a Warren candidacy. Clinton I'll mail in the check. Warren I would help hide bodies for.

Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton continues to lead the pack of Democratic presidential hopefuls, according to a new CNN/Opinion Research Corporation poll released Wednesday.

Clinton has a lead of about 15 percent, followed by Sen. Barack Obama in second place and former Vice President Al Gore and John Edwards tied for third.

If Gore sticks to his decision not to run, Clinton's lead would grow even larger, poll results show.

That was march of 2007. How did that end up working out for her?

Anybody paying attention knew Obama was a star. I don't see that type of charisma or potential for a movement with any of these potential candidates.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Jim Webb is feeling out a run, too. I like him a lot.

I am going to make some very early predictions: Clinton will run with Webb, Tester or Schweitzer as VP in 2016.

I still don't think she can win the nom. She had it all last time money, momentum and name recognition. A relative rookie took her out despite those advantages including the dirty tricks they pulled. She is not as loved on the left as she is hated on the right which isn't helpful. She is just another 3rd way moderate republican and lots of us are done with that crap.

She crushes any likely opponent in the polls. If you're into that kind of thing. Only a little more than a year away from the nomination. Someone will have to make a move in a hurry. Personally I'd be FAR more committed to a Warren candidacy. Clinton I'll mail in the check. Warren I would help hide bodies for.

Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton continues to lead the pack of Democratic presidential hopefuls, according to a new CNN/Opinion Research Corporation poll released Wednesday.

Clinton has a lead of about 15 percent, followed by Sen. Barack Obama in second place and former Vice President Al Gore and John Edwards tied for third.

If Gore sticks to his decision not to run, Clinton's lead would grow even larger, poll results show.

That was march of 2007. How did that end up working out for her?

Anybody paying attention knew Obama was a star. I don't see that type of charisma or potential for a movement with any of these potential candidates.

Clinton gave the keynote.

Obama gave the keynote. Clinton had a major record, Obama in 2004 was just running for US Senator against a tomato can (Keyes, after the real candidate bowed out after an unfortunate divorcing accident...) in a blue district in a blue state, had never won a statewide election, had lost his only prior federal race, and had just been a state senator before then and at that time.

Castro gave the keynote. At least he's been a big city mayor.

Demos who give keynotes get lined up as the next "star" apparently. And they just bumped Castro to the cabinet in HUD.

 

[NCCommish]

Jim Webb is feeling out a run, too. I like him a lot.

I am going to make some very early predictions: Clinton will run with Webb, Tester or Schweitzer as VP in 2016.

I still don't think she can win the nom. She had it all last time money, momentum and name recognition. A relative rookie took her out despite those advantages including the dirty tricks they pulled. She is not as loved on the left as she is hated on the right which isn't helpful. She is just another 3rd way moderate republican and lots of us are done with that crap.

She crushes any likely opponent in the polls. If you're into that kind of thing. Only a little more than a year away from the nomination. Someone will have to make a move in a hurry. Personally I'd be FAR more committed to a Warren candidacy. Clinton I'll mail in the check. Warren I would help hide bodies for.

Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton continues to lead the pack of Democratic presidential hopefuls, according to a new CNN/Opinion Research Corporation poll released Wednesday.

Clinton has a lead of about 15 percent, followed by Sen. Barack Obama in second place and former Vice President Al Gore and John Edwards tied for third.

If Gore sticks to his decision not to run, Clinton's lead would grow even larger, poll results show.

That was march of 2007. How did that end up working out for her?

Anybody paying attention knew Obama was a star. I don't see that type of charisma or potential for a movement with any of these potential candidates.

Clinton gave the keynote.

Obama gave the keynote. Clinton had a major record, Obama in 2004 was just running for US Senator against a tomato can (Keyes, after the real candidate bowed out after an unfortunate divorcing accident...) in a blue district in a blue state, had never won a statewide election, had lost his only prior federal race, and had just been a state senator before then and at that time.

Castro gave the keynote. At least he's been a big city mayor.

Demos who give keynotes get lined up as the next "star" apparently. And they just bumped Castro to the cabinet in HUD.

I'd like to see Castro run.

 

[Fennis]

If you had to name one book that made you who you are today, what would it be?

At the risk of appearing predictable, the Bible was and remains the biggest influence on my thinking. I was raised reading it, memorizing passages from it and being guided by it. I still find it a source of wisdom, comfort and encouragement.

 

[Fennis]

And money? What about money? Bill and Hillary have reportedly made more than $100m since they left the White House in 2001. Yet that didn't stop Hillary complaining to Diane Sawyer on ABC News that the couple had emerged from highest office "dead broke", a comment that ranks for its tone deafness alongside John McCain's admission in the 2008 presidential election that he couldn't remember how many houses he owned.

America's glaring income inequality is certain to be a central bone of contention in the 2016 presidential election. But with her huge personal wealth, how could Clinton possibly hope to be credible on this issue when people see her as part of the problem, not its solution?

"But they don't see me as part of the problem," she protests, "because we pay ordinary income tax, unlike a lot of people who are truly well off, not to name names; and we've done it through dint of hard work," she says, letting off another burst of laughter. If past form is any guide, she must be finding my question painful.

 

[NCCommish]

Jon Stewart did a poor off between her and Biden. Biden won hands down.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Jim Webb contemplates running.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/05/22/will-it-be-president-jim-webb.html

Every time I hear Hillary talk about Iraq I think she is ripe to be plucked from the left. Webb is more center IMO, but regardless he seems like a good man and when he speaks on war he just seems to speak on authority.

 

[Rove!]

ooof

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/topoftheticket/la-na-tt-brian-schweitzer-20140623-story.html

Former Montana Gov. Brian Schweitzer seems to have scuttled his already-long-shot hope of being on a national ticket for the Democratic Party by talking a bit too loosely about his own “gaydar” and by comparing California Sen. Dianne Feinstein to a hooker. Various scolds in the media and inside the Beltway claim to be offended.

 

[NCCommish]

ooof

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/topoftheticket/la-na-tt-brian-schweitzer-20140623-story.html

Former Montana Gov. Brian Schweitzer seems to have scuttled his already-long-shot hope of being on a national ticket for the Democratic Party by talking a bit too loosely about his own “gaydar” and by comparing California Sen. Dianne Feinstein to a hooker. Various scolds in the media and inside the Beltway claim to be offended.

Yeah not as big a deal outside the beltway. Long time to the convention.

I am a registered Democrat and I agree with the Feinstein comment.

 

[NCCommish]

Jim Webb contemplates running.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/05/22/will-it-be-president-jim-webb.html

Every time I hear Hillary talk about Iraq I think she is ripe to be plucked from the left. Webb is more center IMO, but regardless he seems like a good man and when he speaks on war he just seems to speak on authority.

I could see Webb kind of. I think he is another center right guy though. I am really looking for an actual center left person to run.

 

[Fennis]

ooof

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/topoftheticket/la-na-tt-brian-schweitzer-20140623-story.html

Former Montana Gov. Brian Schweitzer seems to have scuttled his already-long-shot hope of being on a national ticket for the Democratic Party by talking a bit too loosely about his own “gaydar” and by comparing California Sen. Dianne Feinstein to a hooker. Various scolds in the media and inside the Beltway claim to be offended.

Yeah not as big a deal outside the beltway. Long time to the convention.

I am a registered Democrat and I agree with the Feinstein comment.

Men in the South, they are a little effeminate… They just have effeminate mannerisms. If you were just a regular person, you turned on the TV, and you saw Eric Cantor talking, I would say -- and I'm fine with gay people, that's all right -- but my gaydar is 60-70%. But he's not, I think, so I don't know. Again, I couldn't care less. I'm accepting."

Poor mans Jon Stewart schtick.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_lEBr3jiA4

 

[NCCommish]

ooof

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/topoftheticket/la-na-tt-brian-schweitzer-20140623-story.html

Former Montana Gov. Brian Schweitzer seems to have scuttled his already-long-shot hope of being on a national ticket for the Democratic Party by talking a bit too loosely about his own “gaydar” and by comparing California Sen. Dianne Feinstein to a hooker. Various scolds in the media and inside the Beltway claim to be offended.

Yeah not as big a deal outside the beltway. Long time to the convention.

I am a registered Democrat and I agree with the Feinstein comment.

Men in the South, they are a little effeminate… They just have effeminate mannerisms. If you were just a regular person, you turned on the TV, and you saw Eric Cantor talking, I would say -- and I'm fine with gay people, that's all right -- but my gaydar is 60-70%. But he's not, I think, so I don't know. Again, I couldn't care less. I'm accepting."

Poor mans Jon Stewart schtick.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_lEBr3jiA4

He should have said Lindsey Graham. BTW I wrote that before clicking the link.

 

[Todd Andrews]

Jim Webb contemplates running.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/05/22/will-it-be-president-jim-webb.html

Every time I hear Hillary talk about Iraq I think she is ripe to be plucked from the left. Webb is more center IMO, but regardless he seems like a good man and when he speaks on war he just seems to speak on authority.

I could see Webb kind of. I think he is another center right guy though. I am really looking for an actual center left person to run.

I want Webb to be the nominee.

 

[NCCommish]

Jim Webb contemplates running.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/05/22/will-it-be-president-jim-webb.html

Every time I hear Hillary talk about Iraq I think she is ripe to be plucked from the left. Webb is more center IMO, but regardless he seems like a good man and when he speaks on war he just seems to speak on authority.

I could see Webb kind of. I think he is another center right guy though. I am really looking for an actual center left person to run.

I want Webb to be the nominee.

Like I said he isn't terrible but he isn't where I want my next Democratic president to be. I am tired of third way. And that's what he'd be. We used to call them moderate Republicans now everything has moved so far to the right they are Democrats. Looking for the pendulum swing. It's coming of that I have no doubt.

 

[timschochet]

I like Hillary. But I am a big fan of Corey Booker. Too early for him?

 

[NCCommish]

I like Hillary. But I am a big fan of Corey Booker. Too early for him?

Booker very stridently refuted the idea that he would run in 2016. I think that was part of the Senate run to let people know it wasn't just a stepping stone. I would be very, very surprised if he ran. Not impossible but seems unlikely.

 

[Trey]

I like Hillary. But I am a big fan of Corey Booker. Too early for him?

May I ask what he has done to warrant someone being a "big fan"?

 

[timschochet]

I like Hillary. But I am a big fan of Corey Booker. Too early for him?

May I ask what he has done to warrant someone being a "big fan"?

Sure. I've seen him interviewed several times. He comes across as a genuine, smart, centrist pro-business Democrat, just the sort of guy I like. Seems very knowledgeable about foreign affairs and mirrored the international trade ideas of Jon Huntsman and Fareed Zakeria.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

I like Hillary. But I am a big fan of Corey Booker. Too early for him?

May I ask what he has done to warrant someone being a "big fan"?

Sure. I've seen him interviewed several times. He comes across as a genuine, smart, centrist pro-business Democrat, just the sort of guy I like. Seems very knowledgeable about foreign affairs and mirrored the international trade ideas of Jon Huntsman and Fareed Zakeria.

I'll add unlike Obama (sorry) he was a reform guy who cleaned up politics in a corrupt town rather than play ball with the machine (see Rezco).

Which is tough, seeing as how it's New Jersey (see Christie).

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

TDS, the Po-Off!

http://media.mtvnser...a0-1db0f1e50061

[at 1:30]

 

[SouthJersey]

Mark Warner -- current Senator for VA (and former Governor) would be a strong candidate.

 

[Riversco]

This thread is about Tim since page 1.

What about you Tim?

I swear every time Tim does this, I think of this scene:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxCe0biKq8E#t=55

 

[Todd Andrews]

Jim Webb contemplates running.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/05/22/will-it-be-president-jim-webb.html

Every time I hear Hillary talk about Iraq I think she is ripe to be plucked from the left. Webb is more center IMO, but regardless he seems like a good man and when he speaks on war he just seems to speak on authority.

I could see Webb kind of. I think he is another center right guy though. I am really looking for an actual center left person to run.

I want Webb to be the nominee.

Like I said he isn't terrible but he isn't where I want my next Democratic president to be. I am tired of third way. And that's what he'd be. We used to call them moderate Republicans now everything has moved so far to the right they are Democrats. Looking for the pendulum swing. It's coming of that I have no doubt.

He is progressive enough for me and a very smart guy. Too smart to be a politician, probably, which is why he didnt run again for Senate.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

"I'm not running for president. I'm not running for president. I'm not running for president." Warren said in a series of video clips shown prior to the interview.

 

[Fennis]

A Woman Should Run for President Against Hillary Clinton. Or Many Women.

Good article (long) and a couple of snips:

For the very first time, there are four Democratic women who could plausibly run for president, four women whose names get mentioned on short lists and in wishful-thinking conversations among party faithful. Of course, only one is ready for the job today. Nobody of any gender has more experience, name recognition, fund-raising capabilities, or real-world preparation for what awaits in partisan-riven Washington than Hillary Clinton.

But the other three aren’t laughable candidates. Massachusetts Senator Elizabeth Warren is the troubadour of the populist left and the one challenger Team Clinton legitimately fears. Kirsten Gillibrand, who sits in Clinton’s old Senate seat, has built a reputation as a savvy strategist by moving from center to left and makes no secret of her presidential ambitions. There’s also Amy Klobuchar, the two-term Minnesota senator who’s popular in her state and in her party, and who has already made a couple of exploratory trips to Iowa.

The imperfections of these potential contenders—inexperience, lefty politics, lack of name recognition—certainly hurt their chances. It’s also worth pointing out that presidential campaigns cost time and money; they’re not to be entered lightly. But think about all of the men who have run for high office before they were “ready” in the way Clinton is. Steve Forbes, Gary Bauer, Mike Gravel, and Herman Cain all stared in the mirror and decided they looked presidential. Far more analogous here are the under-seasoned but serious politicians who run all the time. Lots of them—from Jerry Brown to John Edwards to Rick Santorum—don’t make it the distance; but they make an impact on their party. And sometimes unlikely candidates can get pretty far—as far as a young Bill Clinton in 1992 or Barack Obama in 2008.

Let me be clear: Very little of the blame for the tentativeness of other female pols should be laid at the feet of Clinton, who at the moment is the only woman—and the only Democrat—behaving like a future president. That she lugs around such a huge symbolic burden is the structural reality in a nation that has historically and uniformly excluded women from executive power. Clinton is a trailblazer, capable, tough, and strong. She damn well should take advantage of her position of power entering the election. But her individual fate shouldn’t have to carry so much overwrought meaning. Which is why I’m pleading with the talented and well-positioned women of the Democratic Party: Run. Run right now. Run for yourselves. Run because the country, the party, and Hillary need you to. Just run already

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

These things are not boding well for Hillary:

Clinton's big miss is that what could have been a moon shot moment for her brand (that's why they're called "launches" and why advertisers spend millions on the Super Bowl) may fizzle into HRC fatigue. She is amazingly qualified but risks being a brand failure.

There are several other indicators of a launch gone awry. Book sales in the first week were only one sixth of what they were for her earlier, and very successful, memoir.

A Quinnipiac poll released Monday seems to show Clinton's lead over Christie drooping in Iowa. Today, her husband Bill Clinton even had to step in on her behalf, defending his wife's response to a query about their wealth. But he had to acknowledge the missteps, noting hers was "not the most adept answer to a question."

Evidence that this book tour needed to relaunch Clinton can be found in a recent WSJ/NBC survey: 55% people rate her as competent, but 60% don't see her as likable and 62% don't regard her as trustworthy. That's a perceptual trend among voters that hasn't changed much since 2008. The book tour should have been planned to replace the old news about Hillary, with new, inspiring ways to imagine she could lead.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/25/opinion/pease-hillary-clinton-disappointing-rollout/index.html

 

[timschochet]

I think things are biding just fine for Hillary. Just as in 2008, all she has to do is win the nomination. But this time around there's no Obama, and I have the feeling that the party faithful think she's owed it, so I believe she will have less trouble.

Once she wins the nomination, she'll win the Presidency. She'll get the gender gap, and all the people who supported Obama, but the most important reason is 2 words: immigration reform. The refusal by the GOP to enact a Path to Citizenship has stirred a sleeping giant. The numbers are devastating for future Republican national chances.

 

[skol asylum]

I've never voted Republican for POTUS but depending on the nominee, Hillary may push me that way for the first time. Just don't care for her at all after her showing in the 2008 primaries. I wish the red team would put forth a serious moderate candidate like Huntsman.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

I'm amazed that anybody really wants Hillary Clinton to be President. Forget the Republicans. Surely the Democrats can find somebody better like in 2008.

 

[Todd Andrews]

I'm amazed that anybody really wants Hillary Clinton to be President. Forget the Republicans. Surely the Democrats can find somebody better like in 2008.

I sure hope so.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

I think things are biding just fine for Hillary. Just as in 2008, all she has to do is win the nomination. But this time around there's no Obama, and I have the feeling that the party faithful think she's owed it, so I believe she will have less trouble.

Once she wins the nomination, she'll win the Presidency. She'll get the gender gap, and all the people who supported Obama, but the most important reason is 2 words: immigration reform. The refusal by the GOP to enact a Path to Citizenship has stirred a sleeping giant. The numbers are devastating for future Republican national chances.

Those likeability and trustworthy rankings are not very good.

I'm not even sure where this country has been in terms of ideology the last say 25 years. It would be pretty funny if all these ideological conversations were meaningless in light of the fact that the American public might be just electing who they liked best.