What happens to Mendenhall's value w/ Redman getting goal line car (1 Viewer)

[Louisville Slugger]

I'm more than a little upset that Mendenhall will be getting pulled at the goal line. In my mind this drops him to a high end #2 running back. I picked Mendenhall with the understanding that he would be getting to td's in the backfield.

I thought 10 td's was his floor this year. Now it's possible that he ends up with around 6 td's and becomes nothing more than a #2 back.

Am I off base on this or did I truly waste my #1 draft choice?

 

[killrobotkill]

Just found this...

Steelers coach Mike Tomlin has named Isaac Redman his team's short-yardage back.

Bad news for Rashard Mendenhall owners. Mendenhall will still see some touches near the goal line, but you can probably safely knock a few touchdowns off of his projection. Redman is worth a late-round flier or waiver wire pick-up if you've already had your draft.

Source: James C Wexell on Twitter

Steelers name Redman short-yardage back

 

[JHuber77]

I'm more than a little upset that Mendenhall will be getting pulled at the goal line. In my mind this drops him to a high end #2 running back. I picked Mendenhall with the understanding that he would be getting to td's in the backfield. I thought 10 td's was his floor this year. Now it's possible that he ends up with around 6 td's and becomes nothing more than a #2 back.Am I off base on this or did I truly waste my #1 draft choice?

You completely wasted it. You should just drop Mendenhall now and pick up Redman

 

[Louisville Slugger]

I'm more than a little upset that Mendenhall will be getting pulled at the goal line. In my mind this drops him to a high end #2 running back. I picked Mendenhall with the understanding that he would be getting to td's in the backfield. I thought 10 td's was his floor this year. Now it's possible that he ends up with around 6 td's and becomes nothing more than a #2 back.Am I off base on this or did I truly waste my #1 draft choice?

You completely wasted it. You should just drop Mendenhall now and pick up Redman

I know it isn't a wasted pick, BUT his value is clearly diminished with this news. No goal line = Mendenhall is a #2 fantasy rb.

 

[sho nuff]

I'm more than a little upset that Mendenhall will be getting pulled at the goal line. In my mind this drops him to a high end #2 running back. I picked Mendenhall with the understanding that he would be getting to td's in the backfield. I thought 10 td's was his floor this year. Now it's possible that he ends up with around 6 td's and becomes nothing more than a #2 back.Am I off base on this or did I truly waste my #1 draft choice?

You completely wasted it. You should just drop Mendenhall now and pick up Redman

I know it isn't a wasted pick, BUT his value is clearly diminished with this news. No goal line = Mendenhall is a #2 fantasy rb.

Good, cause he is my #2.Oh, and it says short yardage back...no mention of goalline outside of those speculating right now.Short yardage <> goalline in all cases.

 

[PinkydaPimp]

In the same press conf Tomlin also said that he wouldnt guarantee that Rothlisburger would get his job back after the suspension.

 

[Louisville Slugger]

I'm more than a little upset that Mendenhall will be getting pulled at the goal line. In my mind this drops him to a high end #2 running back. I picked Mendenhall with the understanding that he would be getting to td's in the backfield. I thought 10 td's was his floor this year. Now it's possible that he ends up with around 6 td's and becomes nothing more than a #2 back.Am I off base on this or did I truly waste my #1 draft choice?

You completely wasted it. You should just drop Mendenhall now and pick up Redman

I know it isn't a wasted pick, BUT his value is clearly diminished with this news. No goal line = Mendenhall is a #2 fantasy rb.

Good, cause he is my #2.Oh, and it says short yardage back...no mention of goalline outside of those speculating right now.Short yardage <> goalline in all cases.

Short yardage = goal line

 

[Bayhawks]

I'm more than a little upset that Mendenhall will be getting pulled at the goal line. In my mind this drops him to a high end #2 running back. I picked Mendenhall with the understanding that he would be getting to td's in the backfield. I thought 10 td's was his floor this year. Now it's possible that he ends up with around 6 td's and becomes nothing more than a #2 back.Am I off base on this or did I truly waste my #1 draft choice?

You didn't "waste" the pick, but you didn't get true value for it. However, you didn't get value for it before this news about Isaac Redman was released. You began to lose value when you errantly projected 10 TDs as the "floor" for Mendenhall.No RB has gotten 10 rushing TDs for Pittsburgh since Aryans (sp) became their OC after Whisenhunt went to Arizona. He favors the pass, and doesn't give his RBs that many opportunities to score to his RBs. Mendenhall's 6 last year was the most a RB had gotten in a season with Aryans as the OC.You lost value on your pick when you over-projected Mendenhall's TDs.

 

[HellToupee]

today is a good day to trade for Mendenhall

 

[sho nuff]

I'm more than a little upset that Mendenhall will be getting pulled at the goal line. In my mind this drops him to a high end #2 running back. I picked Mendenhall with the understanding that he would be getting to td's in the backfield. I thought 10 td's was his floor this year. Now it's possible that he ends up with around 6 td's and becomes nothing more than a #2 back.Am I off base on this or did I truly waste my #1 draft choice?

You completely wasted it. You should just drop Mendenhall now and pick up Redman

I know it isn't a wasted pick, BUT his value is clearly diminished with this news. No goal line = Mendenhall is a #2 fantasy rb.

Good, cause he is my #2.Oh, and it says short yardage back...no mention of goalline outside of those speculating right now.Short yardage <> goalline in all cases.

Short yardage = goal line

Ahman Green was basically Green Bay's short yardage back at times last year. Want to know how many goalline carries he got?

 

[Happy Ragnarok]

The change to Mendenhall's value between today (when this was announced) and yesterday (when everybody in the world already knew this was the case): zero.

 

[Thumper]

The change to Mendenhall's value between today (when this was announced) and yesterday (when everybody in the world already knew this was the case): zero.

I disagee. I think the OP is righ on when he said that Mendenhall went from being a 1st round pick to be a #2 fantasy rb. If I were drafting today I wouldn't take him until late in the second round early 3rd depending on my needs. It's not like he is Ray Rice or Chris Johnson and can make up for the lack of td's with catches. Redman is clearly going to hurt his value.I think this drops him below guys like Ryan Grant, Cedric Benson and Arian Foster.

 

[Godsbrother]

The change to Mendenhall's value between today (when this was announced) and yesterday (when everybody in the world already knew this was the case): zero.

I disagee. I think the OP is righ on when he said that Mendenhall went from being a 1st round pick to be a #2 fantasy rb. If I were drafting today I wouldn't take him until late in the second round early 3rd depending on my needs. It's not like he is Ray Rice or Chris Johnson and can make up for the lack of td's with catches. Redman is clearly going to hurt his value.I think this drops him below guys like Ryan Grant, Cedric Benson and Arian Foster.

Mendenhall has decent hands and was a good receiver last year. I think he will be fine and would wait to see how this really shakes out after a few weeks. Never a good idea to rush to judgement before the season even begins.

 

[Kiddnets]

today is a good day to trade for Mendenhall

I agree- Mendy ran hard last year and I can see him getting moe than his share of TDs.

 

[unckeyherb]

Short yardage = goal line

no it doesn't.

 

[Giant Wooden Badger]

Changes nothing really. Possibly coach speak and Mendy will have more than enough value regardless. We don't even know if Redman can do the job. I'm guessing he can but he's far from proven.

 

[Stealthycat]

sell Mendenhall

buy Redman

I mean, c'mon guys ...... Redman gets wha,t maybe 30-40 touches this year? MAYBE ? 1 fumble and he's in the dog house, one 3 rushes from the 1 and no gain and he's out and Dwyer maybe is in or leave it to Mendy

gawd ....... c'mon man !

 

[NoCheese]

I think it's pretty simple. If you own Mendenhall, you don't believe short yardage = goal line. If you don't own Mendenhall, the most straightforward interpretation of short yargade would include goal line work.

 

[Happy Ragnarok]

The change to Mendenhall's value between today (when this was announced) and yesterday (when everybody in the world already knew this was the case): zero.

I disagee. I think the OP is righ on when he said that Mendenhall went from being a 1st round pick to be a #2 fantasy rb. If I were drafting today I wouldn't take him until late in the second round early 3rd depending on my needs. It's not like he is Ray Rice or Chris Johnson and can make up for the lack of td's with catches. Redman is clearly going to hurt his value.I think this drops him below guys like Ryan Grant, Cedric Benson and Arian Foster.

If you disagree, it's only because you didn't know Mendenhall's role yesterday.Tomlin is on record as saying Redman will be his short yardage guy.He's also on record as saying Mendenhall will be on the field in all situations, regardless of down or distance.Guy was never going to be Tomlinson circa 2005. He's going to see action all over the field, including receptions and goalline duty. He's just not going to see all of them. He's still going to push 300 carries (during which, I predict he will spin no fewer than 600 times), catch 40 odd balls, and get a handful of chances to punch it in from short distance.If he's not getting all the goalline work, that's okay, because without a good SY back to convert on 3rd and inches, the Steelers aren't getting to the goalline half as often anyway.I liked Mendenhall to be in the neighborhood of 1600YFS/10TDs before this "news", and that's what I like him for now.

 

[Thumper]

The change to Mendenhall's value between today (when this was announced) and yesterday (when everybody in the world already knew this was the case): zero.

I disagee. I think the OP is righ on when he said that Mendenhall went from being a 1st round pick to be a #2 fantasy rb. If I were drafting today I wouldn't take him until late in the second round early 3rd depending on my needs. It's not like he is Ray Rice or Chris Johnson and can make up for the lack of td's with catches. Redman is clearly going to hurt his value.I think this drops him below guys like Ryan Grant, Cedric Benson and Arian Foster.

If you disagree, it's only because you didn't know Mendenhall's role yesterday.Tomlin is on record as saying Redman will be his short yardage guy.He's also on record as saying Mendenhall will be on the field in all situations, regardless of down or distance.Guy was never going to be Tomlinson circa 2005. He's going to see action all over the field, including receptions and goalline duty. He's just not going to see all of them. He's still going to push 300 carries (during which, I predict he will spin no fewer than 600 times), catch 40 odd balls, and get a handful of chances to punch it in from short distance.If he's not getting all the goalline work, that's okay, because without a good SY back to convert on 3rd and inches, the Steelers aren't getting to the goalline half as often anyway.I liked Mendenhall to be in the neighborhood of 1600YFS/10TDs before this "news", and that's what I like him for now.

I'm not saying that he is going to be a bad option. All I'm saying is that his value has taken a hit on this news. I don't see how anyone could aruge this point.

 

[Happy Ragnarok]

The change to Mendenhall's value between today (when this was announced) and yesterday (when everybody in the world already knew this was the case): zero.

I disagee. I think the OP is righ on when he said that Mendenhall went from being a 1st round pick to be a #2 fantasy rb. If I were drafting today I wouldn't take him until late in the second round early 3rd depending on my needs. It's not like he is Ray Rice or Chris Johnson and can make up for the lack of td's with catches. Redman is clearly going to hurt his value.I think this drops him below guys like Ryan Grant, Cedric Benson and Arian Foster.

If you disagree, it's only because you didn't know Mendenhall's role yesterday.Tomlin is on record as saying Redman will be his short yardage guy.He's also on record as saying Mendenhall will be on the field in all situations, regardless of down or distance.Guy was never going to be Tomlinson circa 2005. He's going to see action all over the field, including receptions and goalline duty. He's just not going to see all of them. He's still going to push 300 carries (during which, I predict he will spin no fewer than 600 times), catch 40 odd balls, and get a handful of chances to punch it in from short distance.If he's not getting all the goalline work, that's okay, because without a good SY back to convert on 3rd and inches, the Steelers aren't getting to the goalline half as often anyway.I liked Mendenhall to be in the neighborhood of 1600YFS/10TDs before this "news", and that's what I like him for now.

I'm not saying that he is going to be a bad option. All I'm saying is that his value has taken a hit on this news. I don't see how anyone could aruge this point.

One would argue the point because this news has been a foregone conclusion since last year when Mendenhall couldn't convert a 3rd and inches to save his life. The only question has been who the SY guy would be.I'm not arguing that Mendenhall's value didn't take a hit if you believed he was going to get all the goalline plunges. I'm simply arguing he was never, ever, at any point going to get all the goalline plunges.

 

[jurb26]

I'm more than a little upset that Mendenhall will be getting pulled at the goal line. In my mind this drops him to a high end #2 running back. I picked Mendenhall with the understanding that he would be getting to td's in the backfield.

I thought 10 td's was his floor this year. Now it's possible that he ends up with around 6 td's and becomes nothing more than a #2 back.

Am I off base on this or did I truly waste my #1 draft choice?

I just don't get this. Mendenhall has been seriously overvalued this year. I just watched him go in the 1st round of a draft 2 weeks ago. Sure it was a Pitt homer draft but still, come on. Why in the world would you think his floor is 10 rushing TDs? You do realize as a team Pitt only rushed for 10 TDs last year. Only 7 of those were by RBs (all Mendenhall). Now they have lost their best Olineman, best WR and QB for 4 games and Mendehall has a floor of 10 TDs? Mendenhall has never been any higher than an average RB2 IMO. Personally I wouldn't even be comfortable with him as my RB2. I don't see value in him outside of a flex spot.

 

[Abraham]

One would argue the point because this news has been a foregone conclusion since last year when Mendenhall couldn't convert a 3rd and inches to save his life. The only question has been who the SY guy would be.I'm not arguing that Mendenhall's value didn't take a hit if you believed he was going to get all the goalline plunges. I'm simply arguing he was never, ever, at any point going to get all the goalline plunges.

This.

 

[Happy Ragnarok]

I'm more than a little upset that Mendenhall will be getting pulled at the goal line. In my mind this drops him to a high end #2 running back. I picked Mendenhall with the understanding that he would be getting to td's in the backfield.

I thought 10 td's was his floor this year. Now it's possible that he ends up with around 6 td's and becomes nothing more than a #2 back.

Am I off base on this or did I truly waste my #1 draft choice?

I just don't get this. Mendenhall has been seriously overvalued this year. I just watched him go in the 1st round of a draft 2 weeks ago. Sure it was a Pitt homer draft but still, come on. Why in the world would you think his floor is 10 rushing TDs? You do realize as a team Pitt only rushed for 10 TDs last year. Only 7 of those were by RBs (all Mendenhall). Now they have lost their best Olineman, best WR and QB for 4 games and Mendehall has a floor of 10 TDs?

Despite losing Colon, this unit is going to be considerably BETTER at run blocking this year, so long as they stay healthy. Pouncey is a huge upgrade over Hartwig. Flozell gives whoever the QB is something like a 1 in 4 chance of being killed on every snap, but he's still a bulldozer on the run. Word out of camp is that the addition of Flozell has payed its BIGGEST dividends in that in a matter of weeks, he has taught Starks more about being big, nasty, and punishing than Starks had learned his entire career to date. The G's were already fine in the run game. So I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to see a significant bump in YPC over the course of the year.The loss of Holmes is going to be much ado about nothing. Good player, don't get me wrong. But the secret that hasn't seemed to trickle out of the Burgh yet is that Mike Wallace is primed to take that role and run with it. Guy is blazing fast, has great hands, runs crisp routes, and unlike Holmes, is an absolute sponge when it comes to learning day-to-day. That includes making the most of having history's best blocking, dirtiest WR on the opposite side of the field. Wallace is going to be a more complete WR than Holmes could ever dream of being. He's probably not going to have the raw #'s Holmes did last year...at least not right away, but Holmes isn't going to be missed nearly as much as people think in the overall machinery of that offense.

The QB thing is a mixed blessing, of course. D's are going to stack up on the PIT run game, but at the same time, PIT's going to lean on that run game a lot more. Whether that comes out as a net positive for Mendy's stats over the first few games is hard to guess. Probably work out for him once or twice, and fail to once or twice, but it certainly doesn't crater his value to be option 1, 2, and 3 most drives for the first four weeks.

I do agree that anyone suggesting a FLOOR of 10 TD's is stark, raving mad. But I think that's true for maybe everyone but ADP and maybe Turner. I don't think 10 is at all a stretch, though.

 

[Cassius]

it goes down. because he'll score fewer TD's.

HTH.

 

[Thumper]

I'm more than a little upset that Mendenhall will be getting pulled at the goal line. In my mind this drops him to a high end #2 running back. I picked Mendenhall with the understanding that he would be getting to td's in the backfield.

I thought 10 td's was his floor this year. Now it's possible that he ends up with around 6 td's and becomes nothing more than a #2 back.

Am I off base on this or did I truly waste my #1 draft choice?

I just don't get this. Mendenhall has been seriously overvalued this year. I just watched him go in the 1st round of a draft 2 weeks ago. Sure it was a Pitt homer draft but still, come on. Why in the world would you think his floor is 10 rushing TDs? You do realize as a team Pitt only rushed for 10 TDs last year. Only 7 of those were by RBs (all Mendenhall). Now they have lost their best Olineman, best WR and QB for 4 games and Mendehall has a floor of 10 TDs?

Despite losing Colon, this unit is going to be considerably BETTER at run blocking this year, so long as they stay healthy. Pouncey is a huge upgrade over Hartwig. Flozell gives whoever the QB is something like a 1 in 4 chance of being killed on every snap, but he's still a bulldozer on the run. Word out of camp is that the addition of Flozell has payed its BIGGEST dividends in that in a matter of weeks, he has taught Starks more about being big, nasty, and punishing than Starks had learned his entire career to date. The G's were already fine in the run game. So I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to see a significant bump in YPC over the course of the year.The loss of Holmes is going to be much ado about nothing. Good player, don't get me wrong. But the secret that hasn't seemed to trickle out of the Burgh yet is that Mike Wallace is primed to take that role and run with it. Guy is blazing fast, has great hands, runs crisp routes, and unlike Holmes, is an absolute sponge when it comes to learning day-to-day. That includes making the most of having history's best blocking, dirtiest WR on the opposite side of the field. Wallace is going to be a more complete WR than Holmes could ever dream of being. He's probably not going to have the raw #'s Holmes did last year...at least not right away, but Holmes isn't going to be missed nearly as much as people think in the overall machinery of that offense.

The QB thing is a mixed blessing, of course. D's are going to stack up on the PIT run game, but at the same time, PIT's going to lean on that run game a lot more. Whether that comes out as a net positive for Mendy's stats over the first few games is hard to guess. Probably work out for him once or twice, and fail to once or twice, but it certainly doesn't crater his value to be option 1, 2, and 3 most drives for the first four weeks.

I do agree that anyone suggesting a FLOOR of 10 TD's is stark, raving mad. But I think that's true for maybe everyone but ADP and maybe Turner. I don't think 10 is at all a stretch, though.

It's all in the timing. Many people thought he was a #1rb. Today I think many would feel he has slipped to the next tier of rb's...I'll still take him on my team

 

[jurb26]

The loss of Holmes is going to be much ado about nothing. Good player, don't get me wrong. But the secret that hasn't seemed to trickle out of the Burgh yet is that Mike Wallace is primed to take that role and run with it. Guy is blazing fast, has great hands, runs crisp routes, and unlike Holmes, is an absolute sponge when it comes to learning day-to-day. That includes making the most of having history's best blocking, dirtiest WR on the opposite side of the field. Wallace is going to be a more complete WR than Holmes could ever dream of being. He's probably not going to have the raw #'s Holmes did last year...at least not right away, but Holmes isn't going to be missed nearly as much as people think in the overall machinery of that offense.

I'm from Pittsburgh so Wallace is no secret to me. I love the guy and think he will eventually have a very bright career. In saying that, there is no way he is ready to fully take over Holmes role or fill his shoes. Holmes is a guy that has been HIGHLY underrated his entire career in Pittsburgh (and I've said this for years). They guy was a remarkably polished route runner and could do anything you wanted as a WR. He consistently got behind the opposing secondary and made big plays, he was never out of position and seemed to catch everything that hit his hands. I think you are greatly minimizing how good Holmes really was. Holmes ran the best routes I've seen from a Pittsburgh WR since Thigpen. He was reliable, lightening quick in and out of breaks, dangerous with the ball in his hands for YAC and could stretch the field. Sure, Pittsburgh has another very promising player in Wallace but Wallace is way behind Holmes at this stage of his career. Especially the route running.Also, I'd say there are a lot more guys who have floors of 10 TDs this year. All of the following guys should easily see that mark baring injury IMO:JohnsonPetesonMJDTurnerGoreD. WilliamsAddai

 

[gsmayes]

Short yardage does not mean Redman will get every carry inside the five yard line.

When the Steelers line up their jumbo package in 100% run situations, they'll insert Redman. Mendenhall will still get plenty of action at the goal line in other packages when the Steelers want the opposing defense to think run or pass. A lot of overreacting in here.

 

[coachjim]

With the Steelers offensive line I have not been that high on Mendy anyway. This just confirms it.

 

[Happy Ragnarok]

The loss of Holmes is going to be much ado about nothing. Good player, don't get me wrong. But the secret that hasn't seemed to trickle out of the Burgh yet is that Mike Wallace is primed to take that role and run with it. Guy is blazing fast, has great hands, runs crisp routes, and unlike Holmes, is an absolute sponge when it comes to learning day-to-day. That includes making the most of having history's best blocking, dirtiest WR on the opposite side of the field. Wallace is going to be a more complete WR than Holmes could ever dream of being. He's probably not going to have the raw #'s Holmes did last year...at least not right away, but Holmes isn't going to be missed nearly as much as people think in the overall machinery of that offense.

I'm from Pittsburgh so Wallace is no secret to me. I love the guy and think he will eventually have a very bright career. In saying that, there is no way he is ready to fully take over Holmes role or fill his shoes. Holmes is a guy that has been HIGHLY underrated his entire career in Pittsburgh (and I've said this for years). They guy was a remarkably polished route runner and could do anything you wanted as a WR. He consistently got behind the opposing secondary and made big plays, he was never out of position and seemed to catch everything that hit his hands. I think you are greatly minimizing how good Holmes really was. Holmes ran the best routes I've seen from a Pittsburgh WR since Thigpen. He was reliable, lightening quick in and out of breaks, dangerous with the ball in his hands for YAC and could stretch the field. Sure, Pittsburgh has another very promising player in Wallace but Wallace is way behind Holmes at this stage of his career. Especially the route running.Also, I'd say there are a lot more guys who have floors of 10 TDs this year. All of the following guys should easily see that mark baring injury IMO:JohnsonPetesonMJDTurnerGoreD. WilliamsAddai

There is almost literally nothing in this post I agree with. But that's okay. I totally respect your view as a Steeler guy, and wish you luck with ceilings and floors and such.

 

[moondog]

Here's what Tomlin actually said -

According to SteelcityInsider, this info was pulled from an interview with the media.

http://pit.scout.com/2/999906.html

The full Q&A with Tomlin is at . The exact Q/A was...

"Q: Do you have a short-yardage back?

A: Isaac Redman’s going to get a chance to be featured in that area. He’s been very good in that area over the two-plus years he’s been here. We’re going to give him an opportunity to see if he can continue to excel."

IMO this is being way overblown. At no point in this interview did Tomlin say Redman would be the goal line back.

 

[shnikies]

I think there's a little bit of confusion here. A lot of people on these boards already factored in that Mendenhall wasn't going to get these short yardage carries so nothing has changed for them. These people probably weren't taking him in drafts because there was a public perception swinging Mendenhall's value too high. Now that everyone knows this, his perceived production estimates will now come closer to his actual production estimates which means he may go a little later drafts but nothing has really changed. If this makes no sense to you, don't worry, because I don't get it either.

 

[Kenny Powers]

Newsflash: You can score TD's outside of the 3 yard line.

Also, I think Mendy's receptions will increase greatly this year, and I wouldnt be surprised if he gets 20 or so targets inside the 15 yard line, giving him a great chance 3-4, maybe 5 receiving TDs

 

[Kenny Powers]

I think there's a little bit of confusion here. A lot of people on these boards already factored in that Mendenhall wasn't going to get these short yardage carries so nothing has changed for them. These people probably weren't taking him in drafts because there was a public perception swinging Mendenhall's value too high. Now that everyone knows this, his perceived production estimates will now come closer to his actual production estimates which means he may go a little later drafts but nothing has really changed. If this makes no sense to you, don't worry, because I don't get it either.

I mostly agree. A month or so ago, Mendenhall seemed to be entrenched as the 8-10th pick in drafts. As preseason went on and it became apparent Redman would get the looks theyre saying now, he became a mid-2nd rounder and he'll probably produce like one (or better)

 

[BaBastage]

I'm more than a little upset that Mendenhall will be getting pulled at the goal line. In my mind this drops him to a high end #2 running back. I picked Mendenhall with the understanding that he would be getting to td's in the backfield. I thought 10 td's was his floor this year. Now it's possible that he ends up with around 6 td's and becomes nothing more than a #2 back.Am I off base on this or did I truly waste my #1 draft choice?

Since there's nothing you can do about it now, why beat yourself up? (Speaking as a fellow Mendenhall owner here.)

 

[crnerblitz]

HR dropping some knowledge bombs in here. The whole reason Redman has any value is because it was already known that Mendenhall wasn't getting it done in short yardage and goal line situations. yes it could be debated, but most likely, very wrongly. I like Dwyer to make Redman obsolete but I could be very wrong about that, but not this.

 

[Happy Ragnarok]

Depending on how successful the Steelers' return to defensive prominence and re-dedication to the run go, Mendenhall could well lose LOTS of GL carries and still outperform his 2nd round slot.

But one way or another, I continue to feel confident he will lead the league in spins.

 

[leave a whisper]

With the Steelers offensive line I have not been that high on Mendy anyway. This just confirms it.

this

 

[Abraham]

The news really is more about Dwyer then Mendenhall.

 

[Judge Smails]

Doesn't matter who the short yardage back is. If you've owned Steeler RB's since Arians came on board you know that every 3rd or 4th and 1 is run from the shotgun. Unbelievably maddening.

 

[Giant Wooden Badger]

Not saying this is the same thing but Tomlin is also on record saying that Ben isn't guaranteed to get his job back once he's reinstated. Seriously, grain of salt here.

Season needs to start ASAP. Too much noise this week.

 

[majstro]

Looking at last year, Mendenhall had the following situational stats:

3rd down: 13 rushes - 33 yards - 0 TDs

4th down: 1 rush - 4 yards - 0 TDs

1st and 2nd & Goal: 18 rushes - 28 yards - 7 TDs (5 TDs were 3 yards or less)

No rushes on 3rd or 4th and goal

He was 6 of 12 in 3rd down conversions

The Steelers were 17th in third down conversions in 2009.

The Steelers were 22nd in Red Zone Pct. in 2009.

Observations:

Averaged 2.5 ypc on 3rd down

Scored 7 TDs on 18 1st and 2nd & goal rushes

Did not get a carry on 3rd and 4th & goal

Pittsburgh tried 28 passes on 1st-4th & goals scoring 8 TDs

Fantasy Implications:

Mendenhall scored one touchdown outside of an "& goal" situation.

Pittsburgh is more likely to throw the ball in an "& goal" than run

Any rushing attempts inside the 10 yard line by Dixon, Redman or Moore will significantly reduce Mendenall's TDs

 

[cvnpoka]

The change to Mendenhall's value between today (when this was announced) and yesterday (when everybody in the world already knew this was the case): zero.

no way. this news should force you to lower mendenhalls td projections. by how much? i dunno, 1-3 fewer seems ok to me.

 

[Steelfan7]

The change to Mendenhall's value between today (when this was announced) and yesterday (when everybody in the world already knew this was the case): zero.

no way. this news should force you to lower mendenhalls td projections. by how much? i dunno, 1-3 fewer seems ok to me.

People are overeacting with Tomlin's statement. He just said that Redman will get some short yardage work. No where did he state that Redman will be the goal line back.