what if the Lions picked Calvin Johnson at #2 (1 Viewer)

[hutchins929]

Can you imagine having Roy Williams, Calvin Johnson and Mike Furry? Would it even matter who was QB? Or even who their Offensive Lineman were? Not saying that I believe this but it is an interesting thought.

 

[by_the_sea_wannabe]

Can you imagine having Roy Williams, Charles Rogers, and Mike Williams? Would it even matter who was QB? Or even who their Offensive Lineman were? Not saying that I believe this but it is an interesting thought.

 

[ffchamp1]

Can you imagine having Roy Williams, Charles Rogers, and Mike Williams? Would it even matter who was QB? Or even who their Offensive Lineman were? Not saying that I believe this but it is an interesting thought.

It would be intriuging but I am not in the camp that says Calvin Johnson makes a noticable impact in his rookie year. I believe the Lions need to address the LB corp, the D-Line and the secondary...Nope, would be a great talent to have for down the road but not a wise move for DET to make IMOTom

 

[Sabertooth]

Yeah, wide receivers are often can't miss prospects whose skills often translate directly to the pros. Calvin Johnson is a prospect that it all. Just like Charles Rogers, Mike Williams, Roy Williams, Chad Jackson, Santonio Holmes, Braylon Edwards, Troy Williamson, Larry Fitzgerald, Reggie Williams, Lee Evans, Michael Clayton, Michael Jenkins, Andre Johnson, and Bryant Johnson were all prospects.

Doesn't mean he's going to succeed, so as a Packer fan living in Northern Michigan, I'd love the Lions to roll the dice on yet another wideout. It's nice when they piss away all those high draft picks.

Ron Wolf stated it best when he said that the toughest position to project is wideout. Most first round wideouts bust. However many Pro Bowl wideouts tend to be ex-first round picks. It's hit or miss, mostly miss.

 

[TME]

Can you imagine having Roy Williams, Calvin Johnson and Mike Furry? Would it even matter who was QB? Or even who their Offensive Lineman were? Not saying that I believe this but it is an interesting thought.

I think people thought the same thing as they were drafting Rogers, Williams and Williams...an unstoppable offense. Did not quite work out that way.If anything, what your describing sounds like AZ the past couple years, if it worked. They drafted Johnson, Boldin and Fitz and had some success with their development. However, poor OL play and average QB play and you have the AZ past couple seasons. So, yes, it probably would matter who's at QB and OL.

 

[trader jake]

Unless Johnson made an immediate impact it would be the final nail in Matt Millen's coffin. The scrutiny would be too great for the Ford's to ignore any longer and they would be forced to fire their boy...regardless of the high opinion many have of Calvin's pro prospects.

That's why it won't happen.

 

[Sabertooth]

Can you imagine having Roy Williams, Calvin Johnson and Mike Furry? Would it even matter who was QB? Or even who their Offensive Lineman were? Not saying that I believe this but it is an interesting thought.

I think people thought the same thing as they were drafting Rogers, Williams and Williams...an unstoppable offense. Did not quite work out that way.If anything, what your describing sounds like AZ the past couple years, if it worked. They drafted Johnson, Boldin and Fitz and had some success with their development. However, poor OL play and average QB play and you have the AZ past couple seasons. So, yes, it probably would matter who's at QB and OL.

Couple of thoughts...Boldin was a third rounder and he's arguably the best of the bunch. This illustrates what a crap shoot it is.Didn't Atlanta also do this? Roddy White, Michael Jenkins, and Peerless Price (traded a 1st for him). Didn't work out then either.

 

[TME]

Can you imagine having Roy Williams, Calvin Johnson and Mike Furry? Would it even matter who was QB? Or even who their Offensive Lineman were? Not saying that I believe this but it is an interesting thought.

I think people thought the same thing as they were drafting Rogers, Williams and Williams...an unstoppable offense. Did not quite work out that way.If anything, what your describing sounds like AZ the past couple years, if it worked. They drafted Johnson, Boldin and Fitz and had some success with their development. However, poor OL play and average QB play and you have the AZ past couple seasons. So, yes, it probably would matter who's at QB and OL.

Couple of thoughts...Boldin was a third rounder and he's arguably the best of the bunch. This illustrates what a crap shoot it is.Didn't Atlanta also do this? Roddy White, Michael Jenkins, and Peerless Price (traded a 1st for him). Didn't work out then either.

I hear you.FYI - Boldin was a mid-2nd.

 

[trader jake]

Boldin was a third rounder and he's arguably the best of the bunch. This illustrates what a crap shoot it is.Didn't Atlanta also do this? Roddy White, Michael Jenkins, and Peerless Price (traded a 1st for him). Didn't work out then either.

Boldin was a 2nd rounder. He was considered a 1st rounder until he ran a "slow" 40. 4.47 or something like that, but your point is still valid. Atlanta is a good example...even if the QB gets the brunt of the blame.EDIT TO ADD: TME beat me to it.

 

[lod2005]

Won't happen. Martz would want him to lose 15 pounds. Calvin is 235 not 220. Martz would also have no idea how to use him.

 

[hutchins929]

Unless Johnson made an immediate impact it would be the final nail in Matt Millen's coffin. The scrutiny would be too great for the Ford's to ignore any longer and they would be forced to fire their boy...regardless of the high opinion many have of Calvin's pro prospects. That's why it won't happen.

In that case Bring on Calvin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Bowbiejuke]

Can you imagine having Roy Williams, Calvin Johnson and Mike Furry? Would it even matter who was QB? Or even who their Offensive Lineman were? Not saying that I believe this but it is an interesting thought.

Didn't Atlanta also do this? Roddy White, Michael Jenkins, and Peerless Price (traded a 1st for him). Didn't work out then either.

There is a difference in picking wide recievers at the end of round 1 and picking a top 5 or even top ten player.

Jenkins/White both late first's.

 

[lions327]

The Lions haven't had a good offensive line in a long time, and they have to address that. The defense has holes all over...pass rushing DE, MLB, secondary. I am hoping we go after Kevin Curtis, or someone similar and work on the offensive line and defense in the draft. I think Calvin Johnson will make a great pro, but we need more help in other areas. We get killed on the line of scrimmage year after year...and lose year after year. It's not a coincidence.

 

[Shlon]

Can you imagine having Roy Williams, Calvin Johnson and Mike Furry? Would it even matter who was QB? Or even who their Offensive Lineman were? Not saying that I believe this but it is an interesting thought.

I think people thought the same thing as they were drafting Rogers, Williams and Williams...an unstoppable offense. Did not quite work out that way.If anything, what your describing sounds like AZ the past couple years, if it worked. They drafted Johnson, Boldin and Fitz and had some success with their development. However, poor OL play and average QB play and you have the AZ past couple seasons. So, yes, it probably would matter who's at QB and OL.

Couple of thoughts...Boldin was a third rounder and he's arguably the best of the bunch. This illustrates what a crap shoot it is.Didn't Atlanta also do this? Roddy White, Michael Jenkins, and Peerless Price (traded a 1st for him). Didn't work out then either.

Difference being Atlanta's picks were late first rounders. Michael Jenkins (29th), Roddy White (27th) which were more like 2nd rounders. And the Lions picks were all top 10 picks Charles Rogers (2), Roy Williams (7), Mike Williams (10).

 

[ILoveMyLions]

Write it down...the Lions will go Thomas or pick the top DE on their board if they don't trade out of that pick...

 

[massraider]

Can you imagine having Roy Williams, Calvin Johnson and Mike Furry? Would it even matter who was QB? Or even who their Offensive Lineman were? Not saying that I believe this but it is an interesting thought.

Didn't Atlanta also do this? Roddy White, Michael Jenkins, and Peerless Price (traded a 1st for him). Didn't work out then either.

There is a difference in picking wide recievers at the end of round 1 and picking a top 5 or even top ten player.

Jenkins/White both late first's.

Not as big a difference as you might imagine. Check the success rate for WR's taken in the top 10.

 

[stbugs]

Boldin was a third rounder and he's arguably the best of the bunch. This illustrates what a crap shoot it is.

Didn't Atlanta also do this? Roddy White, Michael Jenkins, and Peerless Price (traded a 1st for him). Didn't work out then either.

Boldin was a 2nd rounder. He was considered a 1st rounder until he ran a "slow" 40. 4.47 or something like that, but your point is still valid. Atlanta is a good example...even if the QB gets the brunt of the blame.EDIT TO ADD: TME beat me to it.

4.47 is not a slow 40 time. If I recall correctly, I believe he ran in the 4.6 to 4.7 range. If he ran a 4.47, he would have been a lock for the first round, probably pretty early. Found a LINK and it looks like 4.59 was the "fastest" time Boldin had. So he was probably in the 4.6s for most of his times.Guys like Boldin are perfect examples of the silliness of thinking that 4.45 is fast and 4.55 is slow. Silly to me since statistically, a 4.55 guy probably only needs 1 more yard of clearance to break a 50 yard TD over a 4.45 guy. If a guy is a player with quickness and footbally ability, he will always outplay and look "faster" than a guy who is only a combine phenom and doesn't seem as quick as his time.

 

[cantrell]

Write it down...the Lions will go Thomas or pick the top DE on their board if they don't trade out of that pick...

That would be the smartest move, but clearly Detroit over the last 5 seasons has proved it isn't that.

 

[faulkfan]

I'm hoping for a little ironic karma here. I would like to see Millen pass on Johnson and for Johnson to be so freakishly outstanding that the upper brass kick his butt to the street for not taking him. I mean how absolutely crazy would it be for him to throw away high picks year after year on WRs who fail for the most part and then pass on one that turns out to be gold and get canned for it. I have family in Detroit and they are so ready for Matty to be gone otherwise I have nothing against the guy. He seems like a bit of a lunkhead and not quite bright enough to be a GM, but I don't think he is a bad guy.

I should also mention...go bears.

 

[cstu]

I'm hoping for a little ironic karma here. I would like to see Millen pass on Johnson and for Johnson to be so freakishly outstanding that the upper brass kick his butt to the street for not taking him. I mean how absolutely crazy would it be for him to throw away high picks year after year on WRs who fail for the most part and then pass on one that turns out to be gold and get canned for it. I have family in Detroit and they are so ready for Matty to be gone otherwise I have nothing against the guy. He seems like a bit of a lunkhead and not quite bright enough to be a GM, but I don't think he is a bad guy.I should also mention...go bears.

I don't think Roy Williams was a throwaway pick on WR. One bust, one star, and one guy who looks like a bust even though he's the youngest WR in the NFL (at least until the 2007 draft).Any talk of taking CJ is stupid since Joe Thomas is the guy they need.

 

[Colin Dowling]

I've been saying for weeks that CJ is who they SHOULD take.

 

[Aaronstory]

Can you imagine having Roy Williams, Calvin Johnson and Mike Furry? Would it even matter who was QB? Or even who their Offensive Lineman were? Not saying that I believe this but it is an interesting thought.

Yes.

 

[Wyld Stallyns]

I've been saying for weeks that CJ is who they SHOULD take.

Why Colin? Just based on talent, or because he'd help their team more than anyone else??Also, as a side note, I just want to point out that if Jason Hanson doesn't make a long field goal to beat New Orleans towards the end of the season last year the Lions would've been able to draft Reggie Bush... Assuming they still stunk and ended up with the #2 pick this year, we could've potentially been looking at a team with Reggie Bush, Calvin Johnson & Roy Williams as it's three main weapons. I just wanted to write that out 'cuz I keep daydreaming about it...