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What is the best mattress? (1 Viewer)

James Daulton said:
Been sleeping on the Saatva for about a week now.  I'm pretty impressed with the quality of the materials used in the mattress.  We got the luxury firm version and while it's firm, it's extremely comfortable to sleep on.  I'm a back sleep with occasional stints on my side.  I actually look forward to hitting the sheets these days.  I will continue to update as I get more experience but for the <$1,500 we paid (vs the $2k+ we paid 15 years ago at a mattress store) I'm extremely pleased. 
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Was just doing some research myself and I think this is the mattress for me. Which setup did you get and did you buy the frame or did you have one? I was like looking at the 14" mattress and the 8" foundation. Not sure if I should buy their frame or buy a different one in town. 

 
Mario Kart said:
Was just doing some research myself and I think this is the mattress for me. Which setup did you get and did you buy the frame or did you have one? I was like looking at the 14" mattress and the 8" foundation. Not sure if I should buy their frame or buy a different one in town. 
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We have the 14" luxury firm and we used our old box springs (they're 8" I think).  My wife used to complain almost daily about her back hurting when she woke up and I haven't heard a peep since we got the Saatva.  The luxury firm model is soft but it's not the kind of mattress you sink into.  Plenty of support on all sides.  We've been using ours for over a month and I'm really happy with it. 

 
James Daulton said:
We have the 14" luxury firm and we used our old box springs (they're 8" I think).  My wife used to complain almost daily about her back hurting when she woke up and I haven't heard a peep since we got the Saatva.  The luxury firm model is soft but it's not the kind of mattress you sink into.  Plenty of support on all sides.  We've been using ours for over a month and I'm really happy with it. 
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Anything to note? I went to look at some today and one was nice but the sale ends soon and I can't buy right away. Just checking to see how it's still going. 

 
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The latest Consumer Reports magazine (gift subscription) has a section on mattresses.  The scores are very close for the most part... 3rd place gets a 74, 20th gets a 63.  The only thing that really sticks out is that Tempur-Pedic is complete crap.  32nd place gets a 54, Tempur-Pedic gets a 42.  It's also the most expensive bed in the category!

The memory foams that stand out with good ratings and prices are Casper $850 79 score, Tuft&Needle $600 74, and Sleep Innovations $470 68.

 
Rodrigo Duterte said:
Thanks Tick.  What do they say about box springs?  I want cheap.  
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Same here on the thanks Tick.

Although, I'm not sure how I feel about taking bedding advice from a Tick.  Seems like a trap.

 
Im intrigued by the Wink bed company. Fantastic reviews and apparently amazing customer service. Hybrid, around $1500 for the mattress and platform in a queen.

 
James Daulton said:
Been sleeping on the Saatva for about a week now.  I'm pretty impressed with the quality of the materials used in the mattress.  We got the luxury firm version and while it's firm, it's extremely comfortable to sleep on.  I'm a back sleep with occasional stints on my side.  I actually look forward to hitting the sheets these days.  I will continue to update as I get more experience but for the <$1,500 we paid (vs the $2k+ we paid 15 years ago at a mattress store) I'm extremely pleased. 
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Any issues yet? Some comparable ones are on sale and seem to be "equal" when it comes to other variables. Just curious if going the Internet route is better than something comparable for a little less. The one I'm comparing it with is a Serta so I don't know. 

 
Mario Kart said:
Any issues yet? Some comparable ones are on sale and seem to be "equal" when it comes to other variables. Just curious if going the Internet route is better than something comparable for a little less. The one I'm comparing it with is a Serta so I don't know. 
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So far so good.  I enjoy sleeping on it very much. 

 
I'm confused by this thread.  There was the first wave where everyone bought Sleep Innovations mattresses for $500 and loved them (except for one big guy).  Now everyone's looking at $1500 mattresses with the same reviews... why?

 
Tick said:
I'm confused by this thread.  There was the first wave where everyone bought Sleep Innovations mattresses for $500 and loved them (except for one big guy).  Now everyone's looking at $1500 mattresses with the same reviews... why?




 
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Good point.  There has been a #### ton of ads on the internet and tv for new luxury brand mattresses (and the older premium stuff as well) though.

 
Tick said:
I'm confused by this thread.  There was the first wave where everyone bought Sleep Innovations mattresses for $500 and loved them (except for one big guy).  Now everyone's looking at $1500 mattresses with the same reviews... why?
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Not everyone likes foam mattresses

 
We've had the 13" Dreamfoam Ultimate Dreams Gel Memory Foam for a little over a year now and love it.  Not hot in summer.  Soft enough for the wife but firm enough for me once I sink in a bit.  Holds shape perfect.  I really miss it when I'm travelling.

We also have an older (2011) Sleep Innovations on one of the guest beds and have had several guests go buy their own after sleeping on it.  

Both purchased based on this thread.  

 
Evilgrin 72 said:
Just an update, the Dreamfoam memory foam bed is really comfortable. Soft but still very supportive, really high quality build. Absolute steal at $710 for a king.
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1 year in, still love this bed.  I'd buy it again in a minute and will never own a mattress with springs again.

 
I know there has been some love for Casper mattresses... but what about their pillows?  Anyone have any experience?

 
Keerock said:
Spoken like someone else who can't get a good night sleep...
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This is how bad it is............my wife told me last night she ordered some "My Pillows" from the infomercials.   If the 4 star rated pillows suck, I can wait to see what a 1.5 star pillow has.

 
FatUncleJerryBuss said:
This is how bad it is............my wife told me last night she ordered some "My Pillows" from the infomercials.   If the 4 star rated pillows suck, I can wait to see what a 1.5 star pillow has.
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I may just give the Casper a try.  Not encouraged by the fact that they don't come in different firmnesses... but they do have a 100 day free return policy, so if it sucks I can just return it.

 
Just got two Costco king feather pillows for 50 bucks. Love them. Firm but then head sinks into them. Reminds me of residence inn pillows. 

 
FatUncleJerryBuss said:
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I sleep really well on it and haven't had any back or hip pain. No idea of it sleeps hot or not, but it doesn't seem too really. It did take a little getting used to the idea that it really is quite firm. There's not really any fluffiness to it at all. After first laying on it, I didn't think I would be able to sleep on it, but I fell asleep and stayed asleep just fine. No complaints after a few months.

 
Pillow talk

I ordered one and liked it quite a bit. Let wife try it and never got it back so I had to order another. Much better than any pillow I've used in the past. Totally adjustable, you can add in or take out foam as desired. Wife took it out of their case and put it in a normal pillow case which gives her a softer feel. Mine I left as it came, firm and supportive but just enough give.

 
fruity pebbles said:
Not everyone likes foam mattresses
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Got the Bed in a Box mattress some time ago, probably due to this thread. Liked it at first, not so much now. Wife isn't sleeping well at all. Leaning towards the Saatva that's been mentioned in here but slightly hesitant.

 
FatUncleJerryBuss said:
I'd consider blowing someone if they actually knew I a good pillow.   Been through 20 pillows the last couple years, no winners.
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I splurged on a new bed last year.  As part of the major purchase I bought pillows.  My wife and I both bought pillows by bedgear:

http://www.bedgear.com/

I would recommend them.  I bought the Dawn 1.0 performance pillow.  I think my wife bought the mist 0.0 performance pillow.  If you go to their website they have a 'Find my pillow ID' link that will ask you a few questions and recommend pillows to you.  They are expensive, but if you have been through 20, you probably could have bought one at this point.  They are really nice.

 
I went through the difficult experience of purchasing a mattress last year.  I was too worried about the online mattress sellers.  I get that they all have excellent trail periods and return policies, but my wife and I just weren't up for dealing with delivery, set up, and potentially shipping back, then starting the process all over again.  If you do have the patients and energy for that, I absolutely think you can get a mattress for a MUCH better price than I did, but I wanted to find a place that I could at least lay down on the bed before I made the purchase.

I ended up purchasing a Posh & Lavish Reveal.  It is 11" thick.  It is 100% latex.  It has a 6" base then some configuration of layers on top.  It is described as 'medium plush'.

I tried Tempur-Pedic.  I tried Serta I-series.  I tried Restonic.  I tried Sealy.  I liked them all pretty well, but the all latex mattress, I just liked it a little better.  I liked how you don't 'sink in' to the latex mattresses.  And I liked the feel of the latex better compared to the spring or hybrid mattresses.  I also believed that they were 'cooler' but one of the sales people said memory foam has come so far that latex doesn't necessarily have a big edge compared to foam in that arena anymore.

My wife liked how latex was considered the most 'natural' mattress.  She was a little hesitant to go the foam route because she heard from others that sometimes you need to 'air them out' before you sleep on them. 

We both liked that the latex mattress had a really long warranty.  It has a 20 year warranty.  Apparently latex is very resilient and lasts really long.

In the end, we both like the mattress, but it wasn't any sort of major game changer.  I am happy with it, but it was really expensive.  I don't necessarily think it was worth the price... however, both my wife and I agree that if this thing actually does last 20 years it will be worth the cost.  That is a long time.

We also got the bedgear pillows a mattress protector, and bamboo cotton sheets by Malouf.  My wife says that she absolutely loves the sheets, and loves the pillow.  Those are her 2 favorite things about the purchase.

I did go to the website mattress underground that was mentioned in this thread.  It was definitely helpful, but it is a bit too much info for me.  if you have the time to sort through all of it, I believe you could get a top quality latex mattress just like I got for a lot lower price.  You just won't be able to try it first.  I think Brooklyn Bedding and Dreamfoam bedding were both highly recommended by mattress underground, and both had all latex options.  If it were just me buying a mattress for myself, i'd probably give them a try before I spent so much... but since my wife was involved too I knew she didn't want to have to deal with all the things that go along with the 'do-it-yourself' options.  Since we bought from a retailer we got delivery, set up, and removal of the old mattress as well as having the ability to try it first.

One online latex options we came really really really close to trying was zenhaven by saatva.  It was all latex, nearly half the price, they did offer a delivery, set up, removal option.  The only thing holding us back was... you can't try it.  That particular online mattress was very intriguing.  If you are considering latex I would definitely check it out:

https://www.zenhaven.com/

 
Jutz said:
I went through the difficult experience of purchasing a mattress last year.  I was too worried about the online mattress sellers.  I get that they all have excellent trail periods and return policies, but my wife and I just weren't up for dealing with delivery, set up, and potentially shipping back, then starting the process all over again.  If you do have the patients and energy for that, I absolutely think you can get a mattress for a MUCH better price than I did, but I wanted to find a place that I could at least lay down on the bed before I made the purchase.

I ended up purchasing a Posh & Lavish Reveal.  It is 11" thick.  It is 100% latex.  It has a 6" base then some configuration of layers on top.  It is described as 'medium plush'.

I tried Tempur-Pedic.  I tried Serta I-series.  I tried Restonic.  I tried Sealy.  I liked them all pretty well, but the all latex mattress, I just liked it a little better.  I liked how you don't 'sink in' to the latex mattresses.  And I liked the feel of the latex better compared to the spring or hybrid mattresses.  I also believed that they were 'cooler' but one of the sales people said memory foam has come so far that latex doesn't necessarily have a big edge compared to foam in that arena anymore.

My wife liked how latex was considered the most 'natural' mattress.  She was a little hesitant to go the foam route because she heard from others that sometimes you need to 'air them out' before you sleep on them. 

We both liked that the latex mattress had a really long warranty.  It has a 20 year warranty.  Apparently latex is very resilient and lasts really long.

In the end, we both like the mattress, but it wasn't any sort of major game changer.  I am happy with it, but it was really expensive.  I don't necessarily think it was worth the price... however, both my wife and I agree that if this thing actually does last 20 years it will be worth the cost.  That is a long time.

We also got the bedgear pillows a mattress protector, and bamboo cotton sheets by Malouf.  My wife says that she absolutely loves the sheets, and loves the pillow.  Those are her 2 favorite things about the purchase.

I did go to the website mattress underground that was mentioned in this thread.  It was definitely helpful, but it is a bit too much info for me.  if you have the time to sort through all of it, I believe you could get a top quality latex mattress just like I got for a lot lower price.  You just won't be able to try it first.  I think Brooklyn Bedding and Dreamfoam bedding were both highly recommended by mattress underground, and both had all latex options.  If it were just me buying a mattress for myself, i'd probably give them a try before I spent so much... but since my wife was involved too I knew she didn't want to have to deal with all the things that go along with the 'do-it-yourself' options.  Since we bought from a retailer we got delivery, set up, and removal of the old mattress as well as having the ability to try it first.

One online latex options we came really really really close to trying was zenhaven by saatva.  It was all latex, nearly half the price, they did offer a delivery, set up, removal option.  The only thing holding us back was... you can't try it.  That particular online mattress was very intriguing.  If you are considering latex I would definitely check it out:

https://www.zenhaven.com/
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We have had a Restonic natural latex foam mattress for about 5-6 years and still love it.Went shopping with the intent to buy memory foam. Tried a lot of brands, but didn't like the "laying in wet sand" effect. 

 
I bought a tempur-pedic.  I think it was a waste of money.  1.5 years in and its not nearly as firm as when I bought it.  Fiance loves it since she is smaller so it recovers from her much better.  I turned it around once so I had her side and it was better for a week or so until it got used to my weight on it.  Really disappointed in it.

 
Phil Elliott said:
We have had a Restonic natural latex foam mattress for about 5-6 years and still love it.Went shopping with the intent to buy memory foam. Tried a lot of brands, but didn't like the "laying in wet sand" effect. 
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I went to a furniture dealer that sold Restonic because I heard they made all latex mattresses.  The saleswoman was a major influence that convinced me to purchase latex.  I asked this lady if they had any Restonic latex mattresses.  She started going on and on about how the store used to sell Restonic 100% latex mattresses, but they were expensive, and people were hesitant to buy them (something about being afraid of a latex allergy), and they didn't sell well... so her store stopped selling them. 

Then she told me that she has a latex mattress.  She bought one.  Loved it.  Gave it to her son, and bought another latex mattress, and still loves it.  She said she bought a 100% latex mattress from the Restonic factory using her furniture store discount.  She explained that, the store currently only had 1 mattress with latex in it.  I asked her for the details on the layers.  Basically it was multiple layers of foam with a 1" layer of latex on the top.  I was really close to purchasing it because of the price, but when I tried it out, I just didn't like it as much.

I actually emailed her to ask if she could still order full Latex mattresses from Restonic, but I never heard back from her.  I think she really wanted to convince her store to carry latex again, but they weren't having it.  I told her about the store where I found full latex mattresses, and she even said she was going to go there to check them out.  I was thinking... with how much she loves her latex mattress, she should go see if they are hiring. 

I agree about the "laying in wet sand" feeling.  I didn't necessarily care for that either.

 
Jutz said:
I went to a furniture dealer that sold Restonic because I heard they made all latex mattresses.  The saleswoman was a major influence that convinced me to purchase latex.  I asked this lady if they had any Restonic latex mattresses.  She started going on and on about how the store used to sell Restonic 100% latex mattresses, but they were expensive, and people were hesitant to buy them (something about being afraid of a latex allergy), and they didn't sell well... so her store stopped selling them. 

Then she told me that she has a latex mattress.  She bought one.  Loved it.  Gave it to her son, and bought another latex mattress, and still loves it.  She said she bought a 100% latex mattress from the Restonic factory using her furniture store discount.  She explained that, the store currently only had 1 mattress with latex in it.  I asked her for the details on the layers.  Basically it was multiple layers of foam with a 1" layer of latex on the top.  I was really close to purchasing it because of the price, but when I tried it out, I just didn't like it as much.

I actually emailed her to ask if she could still order full Latex mattresses from Restonic, but I never heard back from her.  I think she really wanted to convince her store to carry latex again, but they weren't having it.  I told her about the store where I found full latex mattresses, and she even said she was going to go there to check them out.  I was thinking... with how much she loves her latex mattress, she should go see if they are hiring. 

I agree about the "laying in wet sand" feeling.  I didn't necessarily care for that either.
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Ours was definitely expensive ($2,000+). There were only two stores in town that carried them. Ours had three layers of latex with increasing firmness from top to bottom for a total of about 12".  Fricken heavy also! But its a great sleep and we figured we will have it for 10 + years so high costs wasn't as much of a concern. 

ETA: They had about 4 or 5 different firmness. We initially chose the middle one but then selected a slightly more firm one as they all will soften up a little bit. The first two weeks we had sore backs when we woke up. 

 
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I got the Keetsa pillow plus mattress almost 2 years ago and have been happy with it. It's inexpensive (<$1k for King), comfortable, and the quality is good. 

I also bought their $300 comfort layer topper which was super comfortable but gave me skin problems due to an allergic reaction. It took me a while to figure out it was from the topper. Just something to keep in mind for those that are buying "eco-friendly" memory foam based bedding for the first time. As soon as I ditched the topper, it cleared up.

 
Phil Elliott said:
Ours was definitely expensive ($2,000+). There were only two stores in town that carried them. Ours had three layers of latex with increasing firmness from top to bottom for a total of about 12".  Fricken heavy also! But its a great sleep and we figured we will have it for 10 + years so high costs wasn't as much of a concern. 

ETA: They had about 4 or 5 different firmness. We initially chose the middle one but then selected a slightly more firm one as they all will soften up a little bit. The first two weeks we had sore backs when we woke up. 
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Ours is a total of 11" thick.  I don't know how many layers, but I do know the base layer was 6".  I figured it probably has 2 more layers of 3" and 2".  The place we went had 4 firmness options:  firm, medium, medium plush, and plush.  We chose medium plush.

It's funny you mention the firmness because when we first bought it I was really really worried that we made a big mistake because I had sore hips when I first started sleeping on it.  I noticed on the store website that they recommended you give any new mattress time because your body, and the mattress, has an 'adjustment period'.  I was worried it was not plush enough at first, because I sleep on my side and it was my hips where I felt the pain.  Well, after several months I feel like my body got used to the mattress and the mattress broke in some too.  I definitely like it now, but I was worried at first.

I also think that when I do feel pain when trying to sleep... most of the time it has to do with whatever I was doing that day.  In fact, when I was experiencing hip pain it was around the time that I was running a lot.  I honestly think that had way more to do with it as opposed to the mattress.  I guess that made me realize that... a mattress doesn't solve everything.  There are a lot of factors.  But overall I am definitely happy with what we have.

ETA:  my wife complains about how heavy it is when she has to put the fitted sheet on it after washing.  Our mattress barely fits in our bed frame, so she has to lift the corners up to get the sheets on and says the thing is a beast.

 
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Wooderson said:
Second month of sleep number. It's awesome. 
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Interested in more info on these. Much difference between c series and p series?  I know I'm getting a split king with flexbase #2, but have no idea about the other features. Any of them must haves?  

 
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3C's said:
Pillow talk

I ordered one and liked it quite a bit. Let wife try it and never got it back so I had to order another. Much better than any pillow I've used in the past. Totally adjustable, you can add in or take out foam as desired. Wife took it out of their case and put it in a normal pillow case which gives her a softer feel. Mine I left as it came, firm and supportive but just enough give.
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Just ordered 2 of these pillows for 1 day delivery.  I can't wait to go to bed Thursday night!

 
I've scanned the last few pages but was wondering if anyone who's been following along could give me a summary.

Me: Big guy (6-1, 250), side sleeper mainly.

Based on the last page, latex memory foam sounds best.  I ain't scurred to order online either.  I just need to narrow my research scope.  Cliff notes would be nice.

 
Rhythmdoctor said:
I've scanned the last few pages but was wondering if anyone who's been following along could give me a summary.

Me: Big guy (6-1, 250), side sleeper mainly.

Based on the last page, latex memory foam sounds best.  I ain't scurred to order online either.  I just need to narrow my research scope.  Cliff notes would be nice.
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I'm 6'5", 280 and a side sleeper. After bumping around a couple of the mattress sites, I came to the same conclusion that latex was the way to go. I narrowed my search down to Ghost Bed, Helix and the Dreamfoam Eurotop Latex. I ended up buying the Ghost Bed in November. (I had to pick something and they were also including 3 pillows.) I haven't slept this well in years. I love it. I initially put it on the box springs from my old bed, but realized that I still felt like I was sleeping in a divot. I bought a platform frame from Amazon and it's been awesome.

 
Jutz said:
I splurged on a new bed last year.  As part of the major purchase I bought pillows.  My wife and I both bought pillows by bedgear:

http://www.bedgear.com/

I would recommend them.  I bought the Dawn 1.0 performance pillow.  I think my wife bought the mist 0.0 performance pillow.  If you go to their website they have a 'Find my pillow ID' link that will ask you a few questions and recommend pillows to you.  They are expensive, but if you have been through 20, you probably could have bought one at this point.  They are really nice.
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How is this pillow holding up?  Buddy of mine hyped the bedgear pillow and I'm intrigued. 

 
Ordered a Casper yesterday from Amazon.  Paid the extra 100 bucks not going direct so it would get here today.  Email said it would be here by 8, so I waited and waited.  Now told it would be here Tuesday.  So I canceled, pissed off.

Is there something comparable I can run out and find like at Costco or some other big box, or is this thing worth waiting for?

 
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