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What kind of beer is everyone drinking tonight? (3 Viewers)

Drinking a Racer 5, with a Boont on deck to follow.

Fro, have you tried Drake's IPA? I swear on my sweet ###, it is one of the best that I have had. Ever. Great stuff and relatively unknown.

Wingnut, you're getting a couple of these too. Knowing your tastes in beer, you'll likely agree.
Its one of the beers I sent out in Beer of the month club. Didn't get many good reviews.
 
Rochefort 10 and St. Bernardus Abt 12 are two of the best beers on the planet.
:goodposting: FatMax have you met Alesmith's Grand Cru? I think the two of you would get along quite well.

Alesmith is by far the most underrated brewery on this board. Voted best brewery in the world 2005 by Ratebeer, it gets no discussion except a periodic mention of Yulesmith.

The champagne bottles are expensive, perhaps thats the turnoff. The turnoff certainly isn't the beer!

 
I think the reason nobody talks about AleSmith is because nobody can get it. Heck, I'm in the same state as the brewery and have never seen it. Not even once.

 
In the mood for some Belgians tonight...heading to this place to make my selections. Which would you suggest?

Binchoise Brown -- 750 ml

Chimay Blue -- 12 oz

Chimay Blue -- 750 ml

Chimay Red -- 12 oz

Chimay Red -- 750 ml

Chimay White -- 12 oz

Chimay White -- 750 ml

Corsendonk Brown -- 12 oz

Corsendonk Pale -- 12 oz

Delirium Tremens -- 11.2 oz

Delirum Nocturnum -- 11.2oz

Duchesse de Bourgogne -- 330 ml

Duvel -- 12 oz

Gouden Carolas -- 750 ml

Hoegaarden -- 12 oz

Konings Hoeven Dubble -- 12 oz

Konings Hoeven Tripel -- 12 oz

Kwak -- 750 ml

Lindeman Framboise -- 12 oz

Lindeman Framboise -- 750 ml

Lindenman Peche -- 12 oz

Nostradamus -- 330 ml

Orval Trappist -- 12 oz

Oud Beersel Gueze -- 375 ml

Pater Lieven Triple -- 330 ml

Rochefort 6 -- 330 ml

Rochefort 8 -- 330 ml

Rochfort 10 -- 330 ml

Saxo -- 330 ml

St. Bernardus Abt 12 -- 750 ml

St. Bernardus Abt 12 -- 330 ml

St. Bernardus Prior 8 -- 750 ml

St. Bernardus Tripel -- 750 ml

St. Bernardus Tripel -- 330 ml

St. Bernardus Witbier -- 330 ml

Troublette -- 330 ml

Vichtenaar -- 330 ml

Westmalle Dubbel -- 11.2 oz

Westmalle Triple -- 11.2 oz

Westevletern 12 -- 330 ml

Westvletern 8 -- 330 ml
Obviously, if they have the bolded ones, I'm all over it :banned: eta - If they have the Westy, I'd certainly be happy to grab some for my fellow snobs. Let me know if there is any interest.
:thumbup: If they actually have it I'll trade you my first born son. Or what ever beer you want from California...which ever you would prefer.
Noted.Any other takers?

 
I think the reason nobody talks about AleSmith is because nobody can get it. Heck, I'm in the same state as the brewery and have never seen it. Not even once.
Thats a bummer, I did not know this. I emailed the brewery to get a location list. I actually found their Wee Heavy in Arizona but have never seen it in Los Angeles. Funny how these things work sometimes.

 
In the mood for some Belgians tonight...heading to this place to make my selections. Which would you suggest?

eta - If they have the Westy, I'd certainly be happy to grab some for my fellow snobs. Let me know if there is any interest.
:thumbup: If they actually have it I'll trade you my first born son. Or what ever beer you want from California...which ever you would prefer.
Noted.Any other takers?
Add me to the Westy 12 list. My Belgian connection hasnt come thru yet
 
Drinking a Racer 5, with a Boont on deck to follow.

Fro, have you tried Drake's IPA? I swear on my sweet ###, it is one of the best that I have had. Ever. Great stuff and relatively unknown.

Wingnut, you're getting a couple of these too. Knowing your tastes in beer, you'll likely agree.
Its one of the beers I sent out in Beer of the month club. Didn't get many good reviews.
Yeah, it didn't. I thought it good, but not astounding. Certainly enjoyable though.I think the reason people had a problem was that it doesn't taste like a traditional IPA. If they had called it a pale ale or even just an ale, people would have judged it better. You get an idea in your head what a traditional west coast IPA tastes like (usually jam packed and dry hopped with Cascades).

This beer deviated from that idea and get penalized for it.

My :2cents:

 
In the mood for some Belgians tonight...heading to this place to make my selections. Which would you suggest?

eta - If they have the Westy, I'd certainly be happy to grab some for my fellow snobs. Let me know if there is any interest.
:thumbup: If they actually have it I'll trade you my first born son. Or what ever beer you want from California...which ever you would prefer.
Noted.Any other takers?
Add me to the Westy 12 list. My Belgian connection hasnt come thru yet
Well, made my run at lunch. Unfortunately, no Westy, although they are looking into getting me some. I won't get my hopes up, but who knows.Anyhow, my haul was:

(1) St. Bernardus Abt 12

(2) Westmalle Trappist Tripel

(1) Abbaye Des Rocs Grand Cru

(1) Duchesse de Bourgogne (on heckmann's rec.)

Should make for a nice night of beer and poker :banned:

 
After a week of being on call and having to imbibe sparingly, it's time to knock a few back. Started with a spring lager from St. Georges. Now I'm on to a North Coast Old Stock Ale from 2003. This one packs a punch. Up next will either be a Bigfoot or Hercules.

 
After a week of being on call and having to imbibe sparingly, it's time to knock a few back. Started with a spring lager from St. Georges. Now I'm on to a North Coast Old Stock Ale from 2003. This one packs a punch. Up next will either be a Bigfoot or Hercules.
A 2003 Old Stock, very nice.
 
In the mood for some Belgians tonight...heading to this place to make my selections. Which would you suggest?

eta - If they have the Westy, I'd certainly be happy to grab some for my fellow snobs. Let me know if there is any interest.
:thumbup: If they actually have it I'll trade you my first born son. Or what ever beer you want from California...which ever you would prefer.
Noted.Any other takers?
Add me to the Westy 12 list. My Belgian connection hasnt come thru yet
Well, made my run at lunch. Unfortunately, no Westy, although they are looking into getting me some. I won't get my hopes up, but who knows.Anyhow, my haul was:

(1) St. Bernardus Abt 12

(2) Westmalle Trappist Tripel

(1) Abbaye Des Rocs Grand Cru

(1) Duchesse de Bourgogne (on heckmann's rec.)

Should make for a nice night of beer and poker :banned:
Let me go on record as saying that the St. Bernardus Abt 12 HAS to be one of the best 2-3 beers in the world. Great aroma, beautiful color, and a tremendous flavor which disguises the 10% wonderfully. What is scary about this is that it is VERY drinkable. You could easily get yourself in trouble after 3 or so of these. This is easily my favorite beer to date. It is hard to imagine how Westy 12 could be better.I cracked open the Abbaye Des Rocs Grand Cru after having a Westmalle and the Abt 12, and man, I'm feeling it. :suds:

 
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After a week of being on call and having to imbibe sparingly, it's time to knock a few back. Started with a spring lager from St. Georges. Now I'm on to a North Coast Old Stock Ale from 2003. This one packs a punch. Up next will either be a Bigfoot or Hercules.
A 2003 Old Stock, very nice.
I have one more. I'm going to hold onto it for a while. It was so good! I gave the other 2 to 2 of my redneck friends for Christmas. Big mistake. They drank half and poured the rest out. :hot:
 
After a week of being on call and having to imbibe sparingly, it's time to knock a few back. Started with a spring lager from St. Georges. Now I'm on to a North Coast Old Stock Ale from 2003. This one packs a punch. Up next will either be a Bigfoot or Hercules.
Speaking of Bigfoot, last night after I drank a few beers, I reached into my fridge and cracked open a SN Celebration. Took a big 2 swallow gulp and thought "Holy ####, that tastes pretty strong!" (it had been a week or so since I had one)....next drink I took I was thinking "Damn! Why does this taste so strong?!?!"Then I noticed it was a Bigfoot and not a Celebration.

Thatll throw your tastebuds for a whack when youre not expecting it.

Also, I tried an Old Dominion Lager the other night from by BOTM club. Not a fan at all. Lagers and me dont get along too well.

And to stay on topic, Im getting ready to crack a St Bernardus 12. :excited:

 
In the mood for some Belgians tonight...heading to this place to make my selections. Which would you suggest?

eta - If they have the Westy, I'd certainly be happy to grab some for my fellow snobs. Let me know if there is any interest.
:thumbup: If they actually have it I'll trade you my first born son. Or what ever beer you want from California...which ever you would prefer.
Noted.Any other takers?
Add me to the Westy 12 list. My Belgian connection hasnt come thru yet
Well, made my run at lunch. Unfortunately, no Westy, although they are looking into getting me some. I won't get my hopes up, but who knows.Anyhow, my haul was:

(1) St. Bernardus Abt 12

(2) Westmalle Trappist Tripel

(1) Abbaye Des Rocs Grand Cru

(1) Duchesse de Bourgogne (on heckmann's rec.)

Should make for a nice night of beer and poker :banned:
Let me go on record as saying that the St. Bernardus Abt 12 HAS to be one of the best 2-3 beers in the world. Great aroma, beautiful color, and a tremendous flavor which disguises the 10% wonderfully. What is scary about this is that it is VERY drinkable. You could easily get yourself in trouble after 3 or so of these. This is easily my favorite beer to date. It is hard to imagine how Westy 12 could be better.I cracked open the Abbaye Des Rocs Grand Cru after having a Westmalle and the Abt 12, and man, I'm feeling it. :suds:
Legend has it that the Abt 12 is modeled after Westy 12 and the two compare well. I haven't had both, so I can't comment other than to say that I've seen this written numerous times.
 
Speaking of Bigfoot, last night after I drank a few beers, I reached into my fridge and cracked open a SN Celebration. Took a big 2 swallow gulp and thought "Holy ####, that tastes pretty strong!" (it had been a week or so since I had one)....next drink I took I was thinking "Damn! Why does this taste so strong?!?!"

Then I noticed it was a Bigfoot and not a Celebration.
Pour it in a glass, hillbilly.
 
Speaking of Bigfoot, last night after I drank a few beers, I reached into my fridge and cracked open a SN Celebration. Took a big 2 swallow gulp and thought "Holy ####, that tastes pretty strong!" (it had been a week or so since I had one)....next drink I took I was thinking "Damn! Why does this taste so strong?!?!"

Then I noticed it was a Bigfoot and not a Celebration.
Pour it in a glass, hillbilly.
:lmao: Ive drank so much of the '05 Celebration that I like to drink it straight form the bottle sometimes. Believe it or not, I do the same thing with 90 minute once in a while.

:ducksandcovers:

Blasphemy, I know, but Ive drank so much of it I can have it from the bottle and still taste the entire beer.

 
Legend has it that the Abt 12 is modeled after Westy 12 and the two compare well. I haven't had both, so I can't comment other than to say that I've seen this written numerous times.
Actually, St Bernardus used to brew the same beer as Westy (same recipes). And contrary to popular belief, St Bernardus is NOT a trappist ale.Found a few tidbits online:

The term "Trappist" is licensed for use by six brewing abbeys. All are Belgian and brew beers under the brand names Chimay, Westmalle, Westvleteren, Achel, Orval and Rochefort. All may use the term "Authentic Trappist Product" on their labelling and most do.

There was a seventh Trappist producer in the Netherlands but its status was withdrawn when its brewing operations were taken over by a large Dutch commercial brewery in 2002.

In 1946, Abt Gerardus makes an arrangement with Evarist Deconinck of the St Bernardus Brewery in Watou to use Westvleteren's recipes. This is the birth of the St Bernardus beers.

The legal restriction in the use of the name Trappist began in 1992. Until that time St Bernardus brewery had been making deliberate imitations of the Westvleteren brews at the request and with the agreement of the abbey, using the St Sixtus brand.

 
Now drinking a DFH 60min

Weird. When eating spicy food while drinking a 60min, I get some really pronounced roasted coffe flavor from the beer. Ive only noticed this once or twice before, but only for a second...right now, this 60min almost has a mocha-like flavor.

:shrug:

 
Oh, and just a heads up for those that like Bear Republic beers but cant find em locally....I emailed the brewery asking if I can order beer from their website. Heres the response:

Hello Wingnut, It's good to hear from you again. Yes, you can order beer from our site. Just log onto the website at http://www.bearrepublic.com and there is a section where you can order beer from. It appears to be closer to you to order beer from our distibutor in Lorton VA. They are Hop & Wine phone# 703-550-2010. Check out both and see which one is best for you.

Cheers,

Jo Ault

Bear Republic Brewing Company
I looked on the site and couldnt find where to order beer, but I replied asking to be directed to that part of the site. The bottom line is, Bear Republic sells beer online, and if they send to Florida, TRUST ME - They will send to ANY state. :pickle:

 
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1 220z Ruination

1 22oz Moylander's Double IPA

1 12oz Rogue Dead Guy Ale
Feelin good over there, Fro? :banned:

I loves me some Stone brews.
Dude, you know it. I know Fatmax takes care of your west coast flavors but I need some Dog Fish?
I can hook you up with any DFH you want. Anytime you wanna get a trade set up, let me know. I never get tired of the Cali brews, so Im always willing to trade for Racer 5, Red Rocket, Hop Ottin, Hop Rod Rye, Ruination, Stone IPA, etc...
 
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After a week of being on call and having to imbibe sparingly, it's time to knock a few back. Started with a spring lager from St. Georges. Now I'm on to a North Coast Old Stock Ale from 2003. This one packs a punch. Up next will either be a Bigfoot or Hercules.
Speaking of Bigfoot, last night after I drank a few beers, I reached into my fridge and cracked open a SN Celebration. Took a big 2 swallow gulp and thought "Holy ####, that tastes pretty strong!" (it had been a week or so since I had one)....next drink I took I was thinking "Damn! Why does this taste so strong?!?!"Then I noticed it was a Bigfoot and not a Celebration.

Thatll throw your tastebuds for a whack when youre not expecting it.

Also, I tried an Old Dominion Lager the other night from by BOTM club. Not a fan at all. Lagers and me dont get along too well.

And to stay on topic, Im getting ready to crack a St Bernardus 12. :excited:
OD Lager is one of their worse "regular" offerings. I'm not a fan of it either. And I like lagers. Well, some lagers. That's funny about the Bigfoot. Slamming Bigfoot is never recommended. :D

 
Also, I tried an Old Dominion Lager the other night from by BOTM club.
wasn't that from January?????
Nope, its from my other botm club. 3C's sent the OD Winter Brew in January, which was ALOT better than the OD lager.They also sent OD Pale Ale, which was surprisingly good. Drank all 3 the night I got em.

 
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Had a bomber of Stone IPA last night that really hit the spot. Stopped by the store and grabbed bombers of Moylan's Kilt Lifter and another one of theirs in addition to a bomber of Stone Ruination. Don't think I've ever had any of Moylan's before but wanted to give them a try based on this thread. Their Double IPA was out last night so I didn't grab that one.

 
This is so friggin cool...check this out:

About a month ago, maybe 5-6 weeks, I traded a guy in Cincy a bottle of DFH Pangaea for a bottle of Dreadnaught...So the trade went well, and the box goes into my garage to use in future trades.....fast foward to tonight: Im packing up a bunch of beers to send to FatMax, and I pull a bunch of bubble wrap out of a box to use and it feels heavy....So I unwrap it, and find a bottle of Founder's Black Rye.

:eek:

Holy ####, the box was so packed with wrap that I never noticed the extra. I imemdiately sent the guy a PM over at BA and told him the story and to thank him. He must have thought I was a real a-whole for not even mentioning the extra when I got the package. The only thing Im worried about, is its been sitting in a box in a garage in Florida for a month...Luckily it hasnt been too hot lately so hopefully it isnt cooked. Still an awesome story though!

Soooo....Ive got a true Rye Beer to try, and the 1st Founders beer Ive ever had my hands on.

:pickle:

And for tonight, I drank a DFH 60minute, the a Rogue Mocha Porter for the 1st time ever....Pretty good porter!

 
And for tonight, I drank a DFH 60minute, the a Rogue Mocha Porter for the 1st time ever....Pretty good porter!
From time to time, I can get this down in NOLA for $6.99 a six pack, which makes me very happy. Very solid beer for that price.
 
And for tonight, I drank a DFH 60minute, the a Rogue Mocha Porter for the 1st time ever....Pretty good porter!
From time to time, I can get this down in NOLA for $6.99 a six pack, which makes me very happy. Very solid beer for that price.
Did you crack the Duchesse yet? Interested to hear your comments, as it's an unusual style.
 
Legend has it that the Abt 12 is modeled after Westy 12 and the two compare well.  I haven't had both, so I can't comment other than to say that I've seen this written numerous times.
Actually, St Bernardus used to brew the same beer as Westy (same recipes). And contrary to popular belief, St Bernardus is NOT a trappist ale.Found a few tidbits online:

The term "Trappist" is licensed for use by six brewing abbeys. All are Belgian and brew beers under the brand names Chimay, Westmalle, Westvleteren, Achel, Orval and Rochefort. All may use the term "Authentic Trappist Product" on their labelling and most do.

There was a seventh Trappist producer in the Netherlands but its status was withdrawn when its brewing operations were taken over by a large Dutch commercial brewery in 2002.

In 1946, Abt Gerardus makes an arrangement with Evarist Deconinck of the St Bernardus Brewery in Watou to use Westvleteren's recipes. This is the birth of the St Bernardus beers.

The legal restriction in the use of the name Trappist began in 1992. Until that time St Bernardus brewery had been making deliberate imitations of the Westvleteren brews at the request and with the agreement of the abbey, using the St Sixtus brand.
Mahar's (local bar) has the Abt 12 on tap.Yeah, you read that correctly.

:banned: :banned: :banned: :banned: :banned:

 
And for tonight, I drank a DFH 60minute, the a Rogue Mocha Porter for the 1st time ever....Pretty good porter!
From time to time, I can get this down in NOLA for $6.99 a six pack, which makes me very happy. Very solid beer for that price.
Did you crack the Duchesse yet? Interested to hear your comments, as it's an unusual style.
I did, and honestly, I still don't know what to make of it. I was expecting something along the lines of a typical Belgian tripel or quad. Needless to say, I was pretty shocked. It has a very fizzy, almost soda-like mouthfeel, and the sweetness was totally unexpected. Though I've not tried any lambics, this is what I imagine they would be like. While enjoyable, this is not something I am likely to drink again. Still, I'm glad you made the rec, because this was a totally new style for me, and one that I think everyone should try. It's just not my cup of tea, er, beer.
 
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Legend has it that the Abt 12 is modeled after Westy 12 and the two compare well.  I haven't had both, so I can't comment other than to say that I've seen this written numerous times.
Actually, St Bernardus used to brew the same beer as Westy (same recipes). And contrary to popular belief, St Bernardus is NOT a trappist ale.Found a few tidbits online:

The term "Trappist" is licensed for use by six brewing abbeys. All are Belgian and brew beers under the brand names Chimay, Westmalle, Westvleteren, Achel, Orval and Rochefort. All may use the term "Authentic Trappist Product" on their labelling and most do.

There was a seventh Trappist producer in the Netherlands but its status was withdrawn when its brewing operations were taken over by a large Dutch commercial brewery in 2002.

In 1946, Abt Gerardus makes an arrangement with Evarist Deconinck of the St Bernardus Brewery in Watou to use Westvleteren's recipes. This is the birth of the St Bernardus beers.

The legal restriction in the use of the name Trappist began in 1992. Until that time St Bernardus brewery had been making deliberate imitations of the Westvleteren brews at the request and with the agreement of the abbey, using the St Sixtus brand.
Mahar's (local bar) has the Abt 12 on tap.Yeah, you read that correctly.

:banned: :banned: :banned: :banned: :banned:
I hate you.No, really. :hot:

 
Legend has it that the Abt 12 is modeled after Westy 12 and the two compare well.  I haven't had both, so I can't comment other than to say that I've seen this written numerous times.
Actually, St Bernardus used to brew the same beer as Westy (same recipes). And contrary to popular belief, St Bernardus is NOT a trappist ale.Found a few tidbits online:

The term "Trappist" is licensed for use by six brewing abbeys. All are Belgian and brew beers under the brand names Chimay, Westmalle, Westvleteren, Achel, Orval and Rochefort. All may use the term "Authentic Trappist Product" on their labelling and most do.

There was a seventh Trappist producer in the Netherlands but its status was withdrawn when its brewing operations were taken over by a large Dutch commercial brewery in 2002.

In 1946, Abt Gerardus makes an arrangement with Evarist Deconinck of the St Bernardus Brewery in Watou to use Westvleteren's recipes. This is the birth of the St Bernardus beers.

The legal restriction in the use of the name Trappist began in 1992. Until that time St Bernardus brewery had been making deliberate imitations of the Westvleteren brews at the request and with the agreement of the abbey, using the St Sixtus brand.
Mahar's (local bar) has the Abt 12 on tap.Yeah, you read that correctly.

:banned: :banned: :banned: :banned: :banned:
I hate you.No, really. :hot:
Seriously, this beer is heavenly. I would drink one (I would say two, but after one Westmalle Tripel and a ABT 12, I was feeling it pretty good) of these every night if I could. I don't think I'd every tire of it.
 
And for tonight, I drank a DFH 60minute, the a Rogue Mocha Porter for the 1st time ever....Pretty good porter!
From time to time, I can get this down in NOLA for $6.99 a six pack, which makes me very happy. Very solid beer for that price.
Did you crack the Duchesse yet? Interested to hear your comments, as it's an unusual style.
I like the Duchesse but for some reason every bottle I get is WAY overcarbonated. Like pop the cap and here come the beer. If you don't have the glass ready you are in some trouble.For the style I absolutely love Rodenbach. What the hell were they thinking retiring Alexander :confused: I'll never understand.

 
Legend has it that the Abt 12 is modeled after Westy 12 and the two compare well. I haven't had both, so I can't comment other than to say that I've seen this written numerous times.
Actually, St Bernardus used to brew the same beer as Westy (same recipes). And contrary to popular belief, St Bernardus is NOT a trappist ale.Found a few tidbits online:

The term "Trappist" is licensed for use by six brewing abbeys. All are Belgian and brew beers under the brand names Chimay, Westmalle, Westvleteren, Achel, Orval and Rochefort. All may use the term "Authentic Trappist Product" on their labelling and most do.

There was a seventh Trappist producer in the Netherlands but its status was withdrawn when its brewing operations were taken over by a large Dutch commercial brewery in 2002.

In 1946, Abt Gerardus makes an arrangement with Evarist Deconinck of the St Bernardus Brewery in Watou to use Westvleteren's recipes. This is the birth of the St Bernardus beers.

The legal restriction in the use of the name Trappist began in 1992. Until that time St Bernardus brewery had been making deliberate imitations of the Westvleteren brews at the request and with the agreement of the abbey, using the St Sixtus brand.
Mahar's (local bar) has the Abt 12 on tap.Yeah, you read that correctly.

:banned: :banned: :banned: :banned: :banned:
Thats impressive. What else do they have?
 
Got a 4 pack of Oskar Blues Gordon link Pretty expensive, so it better be good. The guy at the store compared it to DFH90, only smoother. Bought a Lagunitas Maximus and some Old Dominion Spring Brew too. :banned:

 
Legend has it that the Abt 12 is modeled after Westy 12 and the two compare well. I haven't had both, so I can't comment other than to say that I've seen this written numerous times.
Actually, St Bernardus used to brew the same beer as Westy (same recipes). And contrary to popular belief, St Bernardus is NOT a trappist ale.Found a few tidbits online:

The term "Trappist" is licensed for use by six brewing abbeys. All are Belgian and brew beers under the brand names Chimay, Westmalle, Westvleteren, Achel, Orval and Rochefort. All may use the term "Authentic Trappist Product" on their labelling and most do.

There was a seventh Trappist producer in the Netherlands but its status was withdrawn when its brewing operations were taken over by a large Dutch commercial brewery in 2002.

In 1946, Abt Gerardus makes an arrangement with Evarist Deconinck of the St Bernardus Brewery in Watou to use Westvleteren's recipes. This is the birth of the St Bernardus beers.

The legal restriction in the use of the name Trappist began in 1992. Until that time St Bernardus brewery had been making deliberate imitations of the Westvleteren brews at the request and with the agreement of the abbey, using the St Sixtus brand.
Mahar's (local bar) has the Abt 12 on tap.Yeah, you read that correctly.

:banned: :banned: :banned: :banned: :banned:
Thats impressive. What else do they have?
The Abt 12 is now off. :cry: Their tap list is here: Mahar's web site.

 
Legend has it that the Abt 12 is modeled after Westy 12 and the two compare well. I haven't had both, so I can't comment other than to say that I've seen this written numerous times.
Actually, St Bernardus used to brew the same beer as Westy (same recipes). And contrary to popular belief, St Bernardus is NOT a trappist ale.Found a few tidbits online:

The term "Trappist" is licensed for use by six brewing abbeys. All are Belgian and brew beers under the brand names Chimay, Westmalle, Westvleteren, Achel, Orval and Rochefort. All may use the term "Authentic Trappist Product" on their labelling and most do.

There was a seventh Trappist producer in the Netherlands but its status was withdrawn when its brewing operations were taken over by a large Dutch commercial brewery in 2002.

In 1946, Abt Gerardus makes an arrangement with Evarist Deconinck of the St Bernardus Brewery in Watou to use Westvleteren's recipes. This is the birth of the St Bernardus beers.

The legal restriction in the use of the name Trappist began in 1992. Until that time St Bernardus brewery had been making deliberate imitations of the Westvleteren brews at the request and with the agreement of the abbey, using the St Sixtus brand.
Mahar's (local bar) has the Abt 12 on tap.Yeah, you read that correctly.

:banned: :banned: :banned: :banned: :banned:
Thats impressive. What else do they have?
The Abt 12 is now off. :cry: Their tap list is here: Mahar's web site.
I spent a while looking for this darn website!Couple of beers in there I've never had. Not a bad list.

 
And for tonight, I drank a DFH 60minute, the a Rogue Mocha Porter for the 1st time ever....Pretty good porter!
From time to time, I can get this down in NOLA for $6.99 a six pack, which makes me very happy. Very solid beer for that price.
Did you crack the Duchesse yet? Interested to hear your comments, as it's an unusual style.
I like the Duchesse but for some reason every bottle I get is WAY overcarbonated. Like pop the cap and here come the beer. If you don't have the glass ready you are in some trouble.For the style I absolutely love Rodenbach. What the hell were they thinking retiring Alexander :confused: I'll never understand.
I've had 2 of a 4-pack of Duchesse, and don't recall any carbonation issues. Agree with you on the Rodenbach, though. Just had a bottle of it last night.What blows me away about the Flanders Red style is the combination of malt sweetness and lactic tartness.

 
And for tonight, I drank a DFH 60minute, the a Rogue Mocha Porter for the 1st time ever....Pretty good porter!
From time to time, I can get this down in NOLA for $6.99 a six pack, which makes me very happy. Very solid beer for that price.
Did you crack the Duchesse yet? Interested to hear your comments, as it's an unusual style.
I like the Duchesse but for some reason every bottle I get is WAY overcarbonated. Like pop the cap and here come the beer. If you don't have the glass ready you are in some trouble.For the style I absolutely love Rodenbach. What the hell were they thinking retiring Alexander :confused: I'll never understand.
I've had 2 of a 4-pack of Duchesse, and don't recall any carbonation issues. Agree with you on the Rodenbach, though. Just had a bottle of it last night.What blows me away about the Flanders Red style is the combination of malt sweetness and lactic tartness.
I always buy my Duchesse from the same place so I'm wondering if they got a bad shipment and haven't sold out of it yet. Tonight for me is a Racer 5

 
The Black Rye was pretty good. Kinda like a porter. Real smooth, some hoppiness (ryeness?) and coffee/chocolate flavors. It wasnt as hoppy as expected, probably from being in my hot garage for a month. But it was good and Id definately drink it again given the chance.

Drinking it makes me really want to try some more Founders beers.

 

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