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What studs have you been playing all year, but can no longer trust (1 Viewer)

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1. Steve Smith

Having a week 14 bye, I can at least see him for a game to try to give me some faith, but an awful week 15 matchup has me worried.

 
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Praying for a week 14 bye (need VJax to be held under 20 points tonight) so I can see how this Demarco Murray/Felix Jones thing is going to play out for another week. Not sure if I can afford to bench him, but it will at least be a consideration.

 
Basically all my WRs over 3 teams. Got to start them against all but the worst matchups though:

Bowe, Steve Smith, Brandon Marshall, Vincent Jackson, Nicks, Lloyd, or Colston. I'm not even thrilled with Calvin Johnson after his last month.

 
Could Mendenhall be consider a stud still? He has scored 5 TDs in his last four games though so he's starting to gain my trust back a little bit.

 
This one's easy.

Steve Smith and Larry Fitzgerald.

And though not an individual, Bengals D was a stud point scorer week in, week out, but now I'm playing matchups.

 
Larry Fitzgerald is #9 in scoring in ppr leagues and is targeted more than all but 4 or 5 receivers. You people are crazy

 
Frank Gore and Steven Jackson are my RBs.

Philip Rivers is my QB.

I HATE using them.

If not for Roddy White, Wes Welker, and Jimmy Graham, I wouldn't have watched any football at all this year.

 
'CentralPA said:
Could Mendenhall be consider a stud still? He has scored 5 TDs in his last four games though so he's starting to gain my trust back a little bit.
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Week 14 he will be a stud. Week 15 you might as well sit him against the 49ers.
 
Darren Sproles was #6 overall at RB from weeks 1-9, weeks 10 and 12 his avg was #41, last night he didn't touch the ball until midway thru the 2nd Q, did score late but he is not the monster he was early in the season.

 
Bowe & Steve Smiff.

Jordy Nelson is getting close. Man, for a guy that catches almost everything thrown his way, GB sure isn't utilizing Nelson as well as they could.

 
'Bad_Mo said:
Bowe & Steve Smiff.Jordy Nelson is getting close. Man, for a guy that catches almost everything thrown his way, GB sure isn't utilizing Nelson as well as they could.
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It has nothing to do with Nelson, GB seems to always have a flavor of the week. One week it is Jones, then Finley, then Driver, then Nelson. Getting like Saint WRs. Never know who it going to be from week to week.
 
'Da Guru said:
'Bad_Mo said:
Bowe & Steve Smiff.Jordy Nelson is getting close. Man, for a guy that catches almost everything thrown his way, GB sure isn't utilizing Nelson as well as they could.
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It has nothing to do with Nelson, GB seems to always have a flavor of the week. One week it is Jones, then Finley, then Driver, then Nelson. Getting like Saint WRs. Never know who it going to be from week to week.
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Yep, that's I rarely start Nelson. He was a good bye week and inury replacement. Plus, good luck starting over Mega, Welker and AJ Green
 
I own Megatron & Steve Smith... I know, it's crazy/stupid, but I'll consider benching either of them going forward. They've done nothing for me during the stretch run

 
Steven Jackson behind a depleted offensive line and taking handoffs from AJ Feely, without a single favorable matchup left

I wish Kevin Smith could stay healthy...he's been a PPR monster

 
Benching answers are useless in a vaccum.

It all depends on who you have to start instead of the stud you're benching to determine relative value and frustration.

 
'Avery said:
Benching answers are useless in a vaccum.It all depends on who you have to start instead of the stud you're benching to determine relative value and frustration.
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Yep, very true... In my case, Steve Smith likely goes to my bench in favor of MWTB (who I haven't started since I had to use him to cover week 9 BYEs of Megatron & Smith). Megatron's production has been underwhelming, but even his disappointing outings result in 8-10 pts in my .5 PPR (for WRs) league, so it was intentional hyperbole on my part saying I'd consider benching him. After such a great 1st half of the season, it's a shame seeing Smiff struggling to be a top 30 WR any given week. I'm guessing most owners are just frustrated & when push comes to shove, they'll stick w/ their "stud" during the playoffs.
 
I was thinking maybe Turner. He was stone cold stud until the last two weeks and now he's nursing the inevitable bumps and bruises that accumulate. And with very little receiving production to smooth his value, when he's not on, his scoring is a black hole. But then I looked at his schedule. Without a game in cold weather, games against CAR (27th in total yards), NO (28th in ypa allowed), and JAX (who is good, but not great, statistically in run D), I think you have to roll with him.

 
I wonder if Forte will milk his injury and sit out the rest of the season if the Bears are out of the playoffs by the time he feels better. Why risk his big payday if those games are meaningless. He's got nothing to prove. He should get a big raise despite the injury.

 
'mbuehner said:
Fitz is scaring the life out of me but how do you sit him down?
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Last time I did, he scored 2 TDs. Own Fitz, VJax, Gronk, Harvin, Graham. TE = WR in this league. Can start up to 4. Always a tough choice, and usually I sit the wrong one. nuts.
 
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'Grahamburn said:
'T J said:
This one's easy.

Steve Smith and Larry Fitzgerald.

And though not an individual, Bengals D was a stud point scorer week in, week out, but now I'm playing matchups.
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It's really tough for me to believe the bolded.
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Believe.In a PPR league, since week 5 he's only had 1 game with more than 15 fantasy points. That was week 10 where he got off for 33.6pts. The last two weeks he's gotten less than 10 fantasy points. And with Kolb throwing the ball, I'm very leery going forward.

He's a stud in name only this year. I still start him and take my chances, but not with much expectation.

 
Vincent Jackson is going to make or break me in the playoffs. Can't trust him week to week, but he's got too much potential to sit.

 
'T J said:
'Grahamburn said:
'T J said:
This one's easy.

Steve Smith and Larry Fitzgerald.

And though not an individual, Bengals D was a stud point scorer week in, week out, but now I'm playing matchups.
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It's really tough for me to believe the bolded.
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Believe.In a PPR league, since week 5 he's only had 1 game with more than 15 fantasy points. That was week 10 where he got off for 33.6pts. The last two weeks he's gotten less than 10 fantasy points. And with Kolb throwing the ball, I'm very leery going forward.

He's a stud in name only this year. I still start him and take my chances, but not with much expectation.
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He's top 10. :shrug: You're nuts if you sit Larry Fitzgerald. Obviously depending on who you're starting in his place.

This was Kolb's first start after a month off. Don't overreact.

 
'Grahamburn said:
'T J said:
'Grahamburn said:
'T J said:
This one's easy.

Steve Smith and Larry Fitzgerald.

And though not an individual, Bengals D was a stud point scorer week in, week out, but now I'm playing matchups.
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It's really tough for me to believe the bolded.
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Believe.In a PPR league, since week 5 he's only had 1 game with more than 15 fantasy points. That was week 10 where he got off for 33.6pts. The last two weeks he's gotten less than 10 fantasy points. And with Kolb throwing the ball, I'm very leery going forward.

He's a stud in name only this year. I still start him and take my chances, but not with much expectation.
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He's top 10. :shrug: You're nuts if you sit Larry Fitzgerald. Obviously depending on who you're starting in his place.

This was Kolb's first start after a month off. Don't overreact.
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Well, he's #11th in our scoring but close enough. I said I was starting him. The thread title references studs we can no longer trust. Me not trusting him and me not starting him are two different things. I've made my bed with Fitzgerald and Steve Smith. Thing with Fitz is that he's had only two really good weeks. Week 2 and Week 10. And he's trending down right now. That's all I'm saying. I'm starting him, but I don't trust him. Nor do I trust Steve Smith, but I'm starting him too.

 
I skimmed over the last part where you mentioned you were starting him. My apologies.

I can see the frustration with Fitz, but it isn't necessarily reality. Drafting a guy in the top 3 and having them play around WR10 isn't a tragedy. Several Fitzgerald owners missed out on his big game against the Eagles. Those types of days when a player was on the bench skews the view of their season overall.

He's going to have more targets than all but about 3 WRs any given week, and he's a monster in the red zone. I don't see how you bench that.

WR production is the least consistent of any position. Even Calvin Johnson has had a few down games in a row.

It only takes one huge performance to get the numbers back on track though. I'd hate to have it happen on my bench in the fantasy postseason.

 
I was iffy using Forte without cutler in the playoffs before the injuries. Most likely would have rolled with the punches :boxing:

 
DeMarco Murray is getting his fullback back this week so that helps. However, Felix is playing more so that hurts. I have a bye this week, so TB and then Philly look like favorable matchups.

I'm rolling with him :boxing:

 
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I skimmed over the last part where you mentioned you were starting him. My apologies. I can see the frustration with Fitz, but it isn't necessarily reality. Drafting a guy in the top 3 and having them play around WR10 isn't a tragedy. Several Fitzgerald owners missed out on his big game against the Eagles. Those types of days when a player was on the bench skews the view of their season overall. He's going to have more targets than all but about 3 WRs any given week, and he's a monster in the red zone. I don't see how you bench that. WR production is the least consistent of any position. Even Calvin Johnson has had a few down games in a row. It only takes one huge performance to get the numbers back on track though. I'd hate to have it happen on my bench in the fantasy postseason.
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The problem is the trend- over the last 3 weeks Fitz is WR #35. In that same time-frame he's targeted 16th most, which isnt stellar. Speaking of targets, with Kolb at QB the first 8 weeks he was tied with 6 guys for WR14 in targets. This week he was 27th in targets. If you think he's going to be a top 3 targeted WR going forward the numbers to date are against you. Fitzgerald is fine, but his offense is running the ball a lot and Kolb doesn't force him the ball or take big shots with him as much as you'd like to see. Sure he could score 2 tds, but he could also go for 50 yards and no tds. For most years and most owners that isn't a disaster, but with the pass happiness of this season and potential options like AJ Green or Laurent Robinson tempting you, its a tougher decision than it might have been. In 3WR (much less flex) leagues its not much of a question unless you are crazy stacked, but in a 2WR leagues its very much a question mark.
 
Great points. I notice trends with great players too though. When they're down it's usually temporary. I don't want to be left holding the bag when they come back up.
 
My RBs are Rice, Gore, Murray, and Lynch. I've been sitting Lynch most weeks, and it really burned me week 13.

This week Lynch is definitely in, but I don't know who to sit between Murray and Gore. I know it seems like a champagne problem, but my opponent has Foster, CJ2K, Cam, and Jimmy Graham, so I don't have much margin for error.

Also have Steve Smith, but only option on the bench is Greg Little, so I have no choice but to roll with him.

 
I have a bye week 14 but am dreading owning VJax, Gates, Mathews and Tolbert with the O-line in shambles come week 15 against the Ravens.

 
'bulger2holt said:
'oukurt said:
Steven Jackson
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depends on the matchup. Sit vs 49ers
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At this point I don't even know if the matchup makes a difference.Do you feel comfortable starting him, even as a flex, against Seattle (in Seattle), Cincinnatti, and Pittsburgh. Practically worthless in the FF Playoffs. Not to mention he's likely got Brandstater at QB now, and his OLine is TRASHED. The offense as a whole is scoring less than a TD per game...and can't even sniff the redzone! OUCH.If I knew Starks would miss serious time, I might drop SJ for Ryan Grant who is on waivers in one of my leagues. It's bad.
 
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