What would happen if I fought a featherweight boxer? (1 Viewer)

[matuski]

I am your size (6'2", 225lbs) and I have had this debate with friends many times.

I say with certainty I can woop any 5ft nothing 115-125lb guy pretty much regardless of boxing or other skills.

It would be like fighting a fourth grade boxer.

Regardless of boxing or other skills? How about this guy: 130 lbs.

COMPLETELY DIFFERENT from a featherweight boxer.

Matuski's statement wasn't limited to boxers.

I thought we were limiting this to the featherweight boxers and thinking terms of the fight last night. The whole point is that this guy is only a trained boxer, period. Bruce Lee is a trained martial arts FIGHTER. The guy is all about no-holds-barred ### kicking. That's essentially the same as a super awesome street fighter.I don't know about anyone else, but this would change my answer dramatically.

Matuski was clearly talking about more than just boxers. That's why he said he could "woop any 5ft nothing 115-125lb guy pretty much regardless of boxing or other skills." Hell, he'd probably have truble with this guy as well.

The "other skills part" obviously aids your point and I concur it increases the odds of me being wrong.Nevertheless I would not feel like I was about to be seriously injured in a fight with someone literally half my size.... so I stick to it.

In my defense however - most of my responses have been aimed at the featherweight boxer senario.

 

[mr. furley]

For those who don't think 6 inches and 100 pounds make a difference, isn't there a threshold somewhere where the size overtakes the punching skill?

What about 10 inches and 200 pounds?

At some point I think we all have to coincide that some differential in size, weight and strength would tip the scale. I'm not sure exactly where that is, but 100 pounds of muscle seems like a lot to me.

I disagree especially in a street fight. If you consider arm locks and ankle locks size means even less.

But these featherweight boxers aren't street fighters. Nobody would have the advantage in any terms other than trained boxing/punching skill -- a nice advantage, but perhaps not enough to handle an extra hundred pounds in a no-holds-barred affair.Now, if you are talking about an ultimate fighter/trained street brawler of that size, I agree with you completely -- matsuki is probably a goner. But we're not talking about that.

You asked when does size outweight skills, no? My answer was I think never because situations exist in which someone who is significantly smaller can outfight someone significanlty bigger.

I don't disagree with that. But the skill set of a featherweight boxer is -- compared to a street fight -- somewhat limited. These guys are no Bruce Lee.

odds are, most boxers are seasoned street fighters... at least before they got their careers off the ground.read up on some of these loons. they aren't deciding to box because they're fit guys with no other sports skills.

125 lbs. One hundred and twenty-five pounds. That is really, really small.OK, odds are, one of these guys has a knife and it's over.

sure, it is small. but size does not trump speed, technique and years of experience taking & delivering beatings. not every time. you MIGHT get lucky and land a shot that slows him down.. but i would, in all seriousness, be shocked to see the average guy land effective shots on a pro fighter before said pro fighter doled out enough punishment for I Quit shtick to come in to play.

 

[Christo]

For those who don't think 6 inches and 100 pounds make a difference, isn't there a threshold somewhere where the size overtakes the punching skill?What about 10 inches and 200 pounds?At some point I think we all have to coincide that some differential in size, weight and strength would tip the scale. I'm not sure exactly where that is, but 100 pounds of muscle seems like a lot to me.

I disagree especially in a street fight. If you consider arm locks and ankle locks size means even less.

But these featherweight boxers aren't street fighters. Nobody would have the advantage in any terms other than trained boxing/punching skill -- a nice advantage, but perhaps not enough to handle an extra hundred pounds in a no-holds-barred affair.Now, if you are talking about an ultimate fighter/trained street brawler of that size, I agree with you completely -- matsuki is probably a goner. But we're not talking about that.

You asked when does size outweight skills, no? My answer was I think never because situations exist in which someone who is significantly smaller can outfight someone significanlty bigger.

I don't disagree with that. But the skill set of a featherweight boxer is -- compared to a street fight -- somewhat limited. These guys are no Bruce Lee.

Have you ever been in a fight in your life? Any training whatsoever gives you a decided advantage over someone that has no training at all.

 

[JZilla]

If these featherweights can dish out this much punishment to a regular guy (concussions, emergency dental work needed, popping eyeballs out of your skull), how come they don't do any of this in the ring against other featherweights?

Because they're fighting other trained fighters who have spent their entire lives devoted to learning how not to be punched, and how to take a punch in the event one lands.

OK so how come middle- and heavyweight fighters walk out of the ring looking like they've been run through a wheat combine?

 

[Minotauro]

I already stated Pacquaio is 130 lbs. You don't think he would knock you out with a shot to the chin? It makes it easier to discuss if you put a face on it instead of talking about 5'1" jockeys.

If you're talking about a street fight - there isn't a 125 class in MMA, but there is a long list of guys 150 and under who would seriously damage the average untrained 225 lber. In any real gym, they will have sparred with the heavyweights on a regular basis.

Kid Yamamoto is about 145 and would mess you up. Olympic level wrestling, heavy hands and a mean streak.

 

[Pygmy Marmoset]

If these featherweights can dish out this much punishment to a regular guy (concussions, emergency dental work needed, popping eyeballs out of your skull), how come they don't do any of this in the ring against other featherweights?

Because they're fighting other trained fighters who have spent their entire lives devoted to learning how not to be punched, and how to take a punch in the event one lands.

OK so how come middle- and heavyweight fighters walk out of the ring looking like they've been run through a wheat combine?

Because the middle and heavyweight body doesn't move out of the way of a punch as fast.

 

[Dreamer]

If these featherweights can dish out this much punishment to a regular guy (concussions, emergency dental work needed, popping eyeballs out of your skull), how come they don't do any of this in the ring against other featherweights?

We're seriously talking about a beating of unimaginable proportion. It'd be like Looney Toons.

 

[mr. furley]

can anyone find the average hand speed (in mph possibly) of a trained boxer?

i'm guessing it's gotta be roughly equivalent to a MLB pitch. most of us, not named Woz, probably can't take too many of those shots before folding like a tent.

 

[bigbottom]

I am your size (6'2", 225lbs) and I have had this debate with friends many times.

I say with certainty I can woop any 5ft nothing 115-125lb guy pretty much regardless of boxing or other skills.

It would be like fighting a fourth grade boxer.

Regardless of boxing or other skills? How about this guy: 130 lbs.

COMPLETELY DIFFERENT from a featherweight boxer.

Matuski's statement wasn't limited to boxers.

I thought we were limiting this to the featherweight boxers and thinking terms of the fight last night. The whole point is that this guy is only a trained boxer, period. Bruce Lee is a trained martial arts FIGHTER. The guy is all about no-holds-barred ### kicking. That's essentially the same as a super awesome street fighter.I don't know about anyone else, but this would change my answer dramatically.

Matuski was clearly talking about more than just boxers. That's why he said he could "woop any 5ft nothing 115-125lb guy pretty much regardless of boxing or other skills." Hell, he'd probably have truble with this guy as well.

The "other skills part" obviously aids your point and I concur it increases the odds of me being wrong.Nevertheless I would not feel like I was about to be seriously injured in a fight with someone literally half my size.... so I stick to it.

In my defense however - most of my responses have been aimed at the featherweight boxer senario.

But what you're also failing to take into account is that an experienced fighter (boxer, brawler, street fighter, karate dude, whatever) stands a good chance at incapacitating you with a single blow (nose, throat, knee, nuts, etc.). If that happens, you're done.

 

[JZilla]

If these featherweights can dish out this much punishment to a regular guy (concussions, emergency dental work needed, popping eyeballs out of your skull), how come they don't do any of this in the ring against other featherweights?

Because they're fighting other trained fighters who have spent their entire lives devoted to learning how not to be punched, and how to take a punch in the event one lands.

OK so how come middle- and heavyweight fighters walk out of the ring looking like they've been run through a wheat combine?

Because the middle and heavyweight body doesn't move out of the way of a punch as fast.

BS. I've watched featherweight fights and those dudes take WAYYYY more punches than heavyweights do. They smack the hell out of each other.

 

[matuski]

I am your size (6'2", 225lbs) and I have had this debate with friends many times.

I say with certainty I can woop any 5ft nothing 115-125lb guy pretty much regardless of boxing or other skills.

It would be like fighting a fourth grade boxer.

Regardless of boxing or other skills? How about this guy: 130 lbs.

COMPLETELY DIFFERENT from a featherweight boxer.

Matuski's statement wasn't limited to boxers.

I thought we were limiting this to the featherweight boxers and thinking terms of the fight last night. The whole point is that this guy is only a trained boxer, period. Bruce Lee is a trained martial arts FIGHTER. The guy is all about no-holds-barred ### kicking. That's essentially the same as a super awesome street fighter.I don't know about anyone else, but this would change my answer dramatically.

Matuski was clearly talking about more than just boxers. That's why he said he could "woop any 5ft nothing 115-125lb guy pretty much regardless of boxing or other skills." Hell, he'd probably have truble with this guy as well.

The "other skills part" obviously aids your point and I concur it increases the odds of me being wrong.Nevertheless I would not feel like I was about to be seriously injured in a fight with someone literally half my size.... so I stick to it.

In my defense however - most of my responses have been aimed at the featherweight boxer senario.

But what you're also failing to take into account is that an experienced fighter (boxer, brawler, street fighter, karate dude, whatever) stands a good chance at incapacitating you with a single blow (nose, throat, knee, nuts, etc.). If that happens, you're done.

And this is what I am debating - the ability of someone who equates in size to a fourth grader doing any of the above to me.

 

[JZilla]

But what you're also failing to take into account is that an experienced fighter (boxer, brawler, street fighter, karate dude, whatever) stands a good chance at incapacitating you with a single blow (nose, throat, knee, nuts, etc.). If that happens, you're done.

I've already said nuts are off. And I don't know about the rest of these apes but if I find myself in a fight with a midget I think I might find a way to play a little D.

 

[Joe Bryant]

I am your size (6'2", 225lbs) and I have had this debate with friends many times.

I say with certainty I can woop any 5ft nothing 115-125lb guy pretty much regardless of boxing or other skills.

It would be like fighting a fourth grade boxer.

Regardless of boxing or other skills? How about this guy: 130 lbs.

COMPLETELY DIFFERENT from a featherweight boxer.

Matuski's statement wasn't limited to boxers.

I thought we were limiting this to the featherweight boxers and thinking terms of the fight last night. The whole point is that this guy is only a trained boxer, period. Bruce Lee is a trained martial arts FIGHTER. The guy is all about no-holds-barred ### kicking. That's essentially the same as a super awesome street fighter.I don't know about anyone else, but this would change my answer dramatically.

Matuski was clearly talking about more than just boxers. That's why he said he could "woop any 5ft nothing 115-125lb guy pretty much regardless of boxing or other skills." Hell, he'd probably have truble with this guy as well.

The "other skills part" obviously aids your point and I concur it increases the odds of me being wrong.Nevertheless I would not feel like I was about to be seriously injured in a fight with someone literally half my size.... so I stick to it.

In my defense however - most of my responses have been aimed at the featherweight boxer senario.

But what you're also failing to take into account is that an experienced fighter (boxer, brawler, street fighter, karate dude, whatever) stands a good chance at incapacitating you with a single blow (nose, throat, knee, nuts, etc.). If that happens, you're done.

And this is what I am debating - the ability of someone who equates in size to a fourth grader doing any of the above to me.

Trying to catch up here and apologies if you've already stated it: are you saying you could take a feather weight in a bar fight in close quarters? In a street fight out in the open?What kind of training do you have?

How tall are you and what is your weight? Age?

J

 

[matuski]

I already stated Pacquaio is 130 lbs. You don't think he would knock you out with a shot to the chin? It makes it easier to discuss if you put a face on it instead of talking about 5'1" jockeys.If you're talking about a street fight - there isn't a 125 class in MMA, but there is a long list of guys 150 and under who would seriously damage the average untrained 225 lber. In any real gym, they will have sparred with the heavyweights on a regular basis. Kid Yamamoto is about 145 and would mess you up. Olympic level wrestling, heavy hands and a mean streak.

I would give myself good odds with the likes of Pacquiao. He is listed at 5'6" 126lbs, in the pictures I call serious BS on the 5'6" part - he BARELY clears the top ropes. IN A STREET FIGHT (as in I would not box with him).Once you get to 150lb range, I have made no claims about that.5'8"-5'11" 150lbs >>>>>>>>> 5'2"-5'6" 125lbs. No comparison.

 

[JZilla]

Trying to catch up here and apologies if you've already stated it: are you saying you could take a feather weight in a bar fight in close quarters? In a street fight out in the open?What kind of training do you have?J

matuski is 6'2", 225. He says he could beat a featherweight boxer (125 lbs or less) in a street fight. I tend to strongly agree, assuming matuski is a healthy male under 40 years old.

 

[mr. furley]

I already stated Pacquaio is 130 lbs. You don't think he would knock you out with a shot to the chin? It makes it easier to discuss if you put a face on it instead of talking about 5'1" jockeys.If you're talking about a street fight - there isn't a 125 class in MMA, but there is a long list of guys 150 and under who would seriously damage the average untrained 225 lber. In any real gym, they will have sparred with the heavyweights on a regular basis. Kid Yamamoto is about 145 and would mess you up. Olympic level wrestling, heavy hands and a mean streak.

I would give myself good odds with the likes of Pacquiao. He is listed at 5'6" 126lbs, in the pictures I call serious BS on the 5'6" part - he BARELY clears the top ropes. IN A STREET FIGHT (as in I would not box with him).Once you get to 150lb range, I have made no claims about that.5'8"-5'11" 150lbs >>>>>>>>> 5'2"-5'6" 125lbs. No comparison.

Pacquiao is INSANE. you would need a sledgehammer to stop him. seriously.

 

[Pygmy Marmoset]

If these featherweights can dish out this much punishment to a regular guy (concussions, emergency dental work needed, popping eyeballs out of your skull), how come they don't do any of this in the ring against other featherweights?

Because they're fighting other trained fighters who have spent their entire lives devoted to learning how not to be punched, and how to take a punch in the event one lands.

OK so how come middle- and heavyweight fighters walk out of the ring looking like they've been run through a wheat combine?

Because the middle and heavyweight body doesn't move out of the way of a punch as fast.

BS. I've watched featherweight fights and those dudes take WAYYYY more punches than heavyweights do. They smack the hell out of each other.

They don't, generally, smack the hell out of each other. They land a whole lot of glancing blows. An amateur would get a series of full-force blows.

 

[Routilla]

I'd imagine fighting one of these guys without the gloves on wouldn't be much easier. Them wearing the gloves probably allows you to last a bit longer.

 

[matuski]

I am your size (6'2", 225lbs) and I have had this debate with friends many times.

I say with certainty I can woop any 5ft nothing 115-125lb guy pretty much regardless of boxing or other skills.

It would be like fighting a fourth grade boxer.

Regardless of boxing or other skills? How about this guy: 130 lbs.

COMPLETELY DIFFERENT from a featherweight boxer.

Matuski's statement wasn't limited to boxers.

I thought we were limiting this to the featherweight boxers and thinking terms of the fight last night. The whole point is that this guy is only a trained boxer, period. Bruce Lee is a trained martial arts FIGHTER. The guy is all about no-holds-barred ### kicking. That's essentially the same as a super awesome street fighter.I don't know about anyone else, but this would change my answer dramatically.

Matuski was clearly talking about more than just boxers. That's why he said he could "woop any 5ft nothing 115-125lb guy pretty much regardless of boxing or other skills." Hell, he'd probably have truble with this guy as well.

The "other skills part" obviously aids your point and I concur it increases the odds of me being wrong.Nevertheless I would not feel like I was about to be seriously injured in a fight with someone literally half my size.... so I stick to it.

In my defense however - most of my responses have been aimed at the featherweight boxer senario.

But what you're also failing to take into account is that an experienced fighter (boxer, brawler, street fighter, karate dude, whatever) stands a good chance at incapacitating you with a single blow (nose, throat, knee, nuts, etc.). If that happens, you're done.

And this is what I am debating - the ability of someone who equates in size to a fourth grader doing any of the above to me.

Trying to catch up here and apologies if you've already stated it: are you saying you could take a feather weight in a bar fight in close quarters? In a street fight out in the open?What kind of training do you have?

J

Father boxed/kickboxed - 2 years training there although i never really got into it. 3 years Aikido, again not serious. Some submission/throwing training (99% finger/hand/wrist) - from father again. Mostly as a teenager. Not much more than the average kid who took karate I would think.My confidence does not depend so much on this training or experience (although it may help), but more just the fact that I am in good shape and am not stupid enough to allow a guy half my size to even get to where he could hit my chin. Please don't take this as macho... not my intention.

 

[Christo]

I am your size (6'2", 225lbs) and I have had this debate with friends many times.

I say with certainty I can woop any 5ft nothing 115-125lb guy pretty much regardless of boxing or other skills.

It would be like fighting a fourth grade boxer.

Regardless of boxing or other skills? How about this guy: 130 lbs.

COMPLETELY DIFFERENT from a featherweight boxer.

Matuski's statement wasn't limited to boxers.

I thought we were limiting this to the featherweight boxers and thinking terms of the fight last night. The whole point is that this guy is only a trained boxer, period. Bruce Lee is a trained martial arts FIGHTER. The guy is all about no-holds-barred ### kicking. That's essentially the same as a super awesome street fighter.I don't know about anyone else, but this would change my answer dramatically.

Matuski was clearly talking about more than just boxers. That's why he said he could "woop any 5ft nothing 115-125lb guy pretty much regardless of boxing or other skills." Hell, he'd probably have truble with this guy as well.

The "other skills part" obviously aids your point and I concur it increases the odds of me being wrong.Nevertheless I would not feel like I was about to be seriously injured in a fight with someone literally half my size.... so I stick to it.

In my defense however - most of my responses have been aimed at the featherweight boxer senario.

But what you're also failing to take into account is that an experienced fighter (boxer, brawler, street fighter, karate dude, whatever) stands a good chance at incapacitating you with a single blow (nose, throat, knee, nuts, etc.). If that happens, you're done.

And this is what I am debating - the ability of someone who equates in size to a fourth grader doing any of the above to me.

How does the size of your gut affect a punch to your nose or throat?

 

[JZilla]

If these featherweights can dish out this much punishment to a regular guy (concussions, emergency dental work needed, popping eyeballs out of your skull), how come they don't do any of this in the ring against other featherweights?

Because they're fighting other trained fighters who have spent their entire lives devoted to learning how not to be punched, and how to take a punch in the event one lands.

OK so how come middle- and heavyweight fighters walk out of the ring looking like they've been run through a wheat combine?

Because the middle and heavyweight body doesn't move out of the way of a punch as fast.

BS. I've watched featherweight fights and those dudes take WAYYYY more punches than heavyweights do. They smack the hell out of each other.

They don't, generally, smack the hell out of each other. They land a whole lot of glancing blows. An amateur would get a series of full-force blows.

You guys really think an amateur would not think to cover his head and go in? I've been in a few fights.. not a lot, and none that I've started, but I was in the military and I was overseas, so these things happen... and I think you're not giving enough credit to the amateur. Seriously. And yeah, a 125 dude is not hitting that hard. Period. Nothing you couldn't take at least a few of. Unless he's 5'0", 125, then he might have some bulk. In which case, watch the nads and tighten up.

 

[matuski]

I am your size (6'2", 225lbs) and I have had this debate with friends many times.

I say with certainty I can woop any 5ft nothing 115-125lb guy pretty much regardless of boxing or other skills.

It would be like fighting a fourth grade boxer.

Regardless of boxing or other skills? How about this guy: 130 lbs.

COMPLETELY DIFFERENT from a featherweight boxer.

Matuski's statement wasn't limited to boxers.

I thought we were limiting this to the featherweight boxers and thinking terms of the fight last night. The whole point is that this guy is only a trained boxer, period. Bruce Lee is a trained martial arts FIGHTER. The guy is all about no-holds-barred ### kicking. That's essentially the same as a super awesome street fighter.I don't know about anyone else, but this would change my answer dramatically.

Matuski was clearly talking about more than just boxers. That's why he said he could "woop any 5ft nothing 115-125lb guy pretty much regardless of boxing or other skills." Hell, he'd probably have truble with this guy as well.

The "other skills part" obviously aids your point and I concur it increases the odds of me being wrong.Nevertheless I would not feel like I was about to be seriously injured in a fight with someone literally half my size.... so I stick to it.

In my defense however - most of my responses have been aimed at the featherweight boxer senario.

But what you're also failing to take into account is that an experienced fighter (boxer, brawler, street fighter, karate dude, whatever) stands a good chance at incapacitating you with a single blow (nose, throat, knee, nuts, etc.). If that happens, you're done.

And this is what I am debating - the ability of someone who equates in size to a fourth grader doing any of the above to me.

How does the size of your gut affect a punch to your nose or throat?

You lost me.

 

[Joe Bryant]

Trying to catch up here and apologies if you've already stated it: are you saying you could take a feather weight in a bar fight in close quarters? In a street fight out in the open?What kind of training do you have?J

matuski is 6'2", 225. He says he could beat a featherweight boxer (125 lbs or less) in a street fight. I tend to strongly agree, assuming matuski is a healthy male under 40 years old.

Really Jzilla?You really strongly agree an average 6'2 / 225 guy would take a professional featherweight fighter in a street fight?I think a guy might have a shot against a pro featherweight but he'd have to be way way way up off the charts in the athletic scale with some sort of fighting training and extensive background.I would think the average 6' 2" / 225 up to 40 year old guy would get mopped in a street fight with a pro featherweight.Hands speed, fighting skills, toughness, agility and a hundred other variables go a LONG ways toward overcoming the size differential in my opinion.J

 

[Chase Stuart]

It's not the size of the dog in the fight.

 

[matuski]

PS - Ask me this question again in two years I may not feel the same way. Just went over the 30 year-old hill and the body doesn't quite do things the same as when I was 25 hehe.

 

[Chase Stuart]

BTW, I'm guessing the same people who think they can kick a professional boxer's ### are the ones that think they can make the NBA because they shoot free throws better than Shaq, and think they can play WR in the NFL when they see TO drop an open pass.

FBG bravado is strong in here.

 

[JZilla]

Trying to catch up here and apologies if you've already stated it: are you saying you could take a feather weight in a bar fight in close quarters? In a street fight out in the open?

What kind of training do you have?

J

matuski is 6'2", 225. He says he could beat a featherweight boxer (125 lbs or less) in a street fight. I tend to strongly agree, assuming matuski is a healthy male under 40 years old.

Really Jzilla?You really strongly agree an average 6'2 / 225 guy would take a professional featherweight fighter in a street fight?

I think a guy might have a shot against a pro featherweight but he'd have to be way way way up off the charts in the athletic scale with some sort of fighting training and extensive background.

I would think the average 6' 2" / 225 up to 40 year old guy would get mopped in a street fight with a pro featherweight.

Hands speed, fighting skills, toughness, agility and a hundred other variables go a LONG ways toward overcoming the size differential in my opinion.

J

Yes. I just don't think featherweights are strong enough to overcome that disadvantage. Period. I guess we could argue it until the cows come home.. OR.. you.. being of strong financial standing.. could put us up for a little street match between matuski and Rudy Perez?

 

[matuski]

BTW, I'm guessing the same people who think they can kick a professional boxer's ### are the ones that think they can make the NBA because they shoot free throws better than Shaq, and think they can play WR in the NFL when they see TO drop an open pass.FBG bravado is strong in here.

have you read this thread?

 

[Joe Bryant]

PS - Ask me this question again in two years I may not feel the same way. Just went over the 30 year-old hill and the body doesn't quite do things the same as when I was 25 hehe.

What kind of training / athletic accomplishments do you have?J

 

[mr. furley]

oof

 

[JZilla]

BTW, I'm guessing the same people who think they can kick a professional boxer's ### are the ones that think they can make the NBA because they shoot free throws better than Shaq, and think they can play WR in the NFL when they see TO drop an open pass.FBG bravado is strong in here.

Please dude, I already said I am the LAST person to play ego in here. I'm only arguing physics and what I've seen in featherweight fights. I'm not even saying I'd beat a featherweight, I'm hardly in that kind of shape.. I'm casting my lot with someone slightly taller and healthier.

 

[Chase Stuart]

BTW, I'm guessing the same people who think they can kick a professional boxer's ### are the ones that think they can make the NBA because they shoot free throws better than Shaq, and think they can play WR in the NFL when they see TO drop an open pass.FBG bravado is strong in here.

Please dude, I already said I am the LAST person to play ego in here. I'm only arguing physics and what I've seen in featherweight fights. I'm not even saying I'd beat a featherweight, I'm hardly in that kind of shape.. I'm casting my lot with someone slightly taller and healthier.

I really don't see how it's realistic to assume you'd get a punch in on the guy.

 

[matuski]

PS - Ask me this question again in two years I may not feel the same way. Just went over the 30 year-old hill and the body doesn't quite do things the same as when I was 25 hehe.

What kind of training / athletic accomplishments do you have?J

See above in response to your first request for this info. - moderate boxing/kickboxing, aikido, throws, etc.Above average athletic skills.... although like I said this is going faster than I like hehe.Everytime I post this I know i am setting myself up for the bravado attack.... oh well.ETA:

Father boxed/kickboxed - 2 years training there although i never really got into it. 3 years Aikido, again not serious. Some submission/throwing training (99% finger/hand/wrist) - from father again. Mostly as a teenager. Not much more than the average kid who took karate I would think.My confidence does not depend so much on this training or experience (although it may help), but more just the fact that I am in good shape and am not stupid enough to allow a guy half my size to even get to where he could hit my chin. Please don't take this as macho... not my intention.

 

[matuski]

BTW, I'm guessing the same people who think they can kick a professional boxer's ### are the ones that think they can make the NBA because they shoot free throws better than Shaq, and think they can play WR in the NFL when they see TO drop an open pass.FBG bravado is strong in here.

Please dude, I already said I am the LAST person to play ego in here. I'm only arguing physics and what I've seen in featherweight fights. I'm not even saying I'd beat a featherweight, I'm hardly in that kind of shape.. I'm casting my lot with someone slightly taller and healthier.

I really don't see how it's realistic to assume you'd get a punch in on the guy.

please read the thread.. it has been stated clearly that standing and punching with a boxer isn't the plan.

 

[JZilla]

BTW, I'm guessing the same people who think they can kick a professional boxer's ### are the ones that think they can make the NBA because they shoot free throws better than Shaq, and think they can play WR in the NFL when they see TO drop an open pass.FBG bravado is strong in here.

Please dude, I already said I am the LAST person to play ego in here. I'm only arguing physics and what I've seen in featherweight fights. I'm not even saying I'd beat a featherweight, I'm hardly in that kind of shape.. I'm casting my lot with someone slightly taller and healthier.

I really don't see how it's realistic to assume you'd get a punch in on the guy.

OK so it's a foot race? My money's on him.

 

[Foosball God]

Here's what would happen:

Matsuki bum rushes the featherweight to try and tackle him

Featherweight sidesteps Matsuki and lands a swift punch or two to the kidney.

Matsuki lies on the ground writhing in pain.

It's not just you that doesn't have to play by the rules of boxing anymore.

 

[JZilla]

Here's what would happen:Matsuki bum rushes the featherweight to try and tackle himFeatherweight sidesteps Matsuki and lands a swift punch or two to the kidney.Matsuki lies on the ground writhing in pain.It's not just you that doesn't have to play by the rules of boxing anymore.

Still giving the "amateur" very little credit here. We are not all dumb apes.

 

[Chase Stuart]

BTW, I'm guessing the same people who think they can kick a professional boxer's ### are the ones that think they can make the NBA because they shoot free throws better than Shaq, and think they can play WR in the NFL when they see TO drop an open pass.FBG bravado is strong in here.

Please dude, I already said I am the LAST person to play ego in here. I'm only arguing physics and what I've seen in featherweight fights. I'm not even saying I'd beat a featherweight, I'm hardly in that kind of shape.. I'm casting my lot with someone slightly taller and healthier.

I really don't see how it's realistic to assume you'd get a punch in on the guy.

please read the thread.. it has been stated clearly that standing and punching with a boxer isn't the plan.

I've read every post in the thread. Each punch by the professional will stun you for more than long enough for him to get his next one in.

 

[Joe Bryant]

could put us up for a little street match between matuski and Rudy Perez?

Maybe against Rudy Perez http://www.rudyperez.com/But not the boxer.

Good video explaining what would be happening in matski's brain http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKRdUoyUEp4...ted&search=

Kinetic energy and the transferral of it is a skill. And a professional boxer has that skill to a level few humans in the universe do. Size certianly matters as the video says. But even a lighter guy would have enough power to put our FBGer eating with a straw for a long time.

J

 

[Chase Stuart]

Here's what would happen:Matsuki bum rushes the featherweight to try and tackle himFeatherweight sidesteps Matsuki and lands a swift punch or two to the kidney.Matsuki lies on the ground writhing in pain.It's not just you that doesn't have to play by the rules of boxing anymore.

Still giving the "amateur" very little credit here. We are not all dumb apes.

Who do you think is better at plastic surgery? You, or a really stupid plastic surgeon?

 

[matuski]

Here's what would happen:Matsuki bum rushes the featherweight to try and tackle himFeatherweight sidesteps Matsuki and lands a swift punch or two to the kidney.Matsuki lies on the ground writhing in pain.It's not just you that doesn't have to play by the rules of boxing anymore.

Who is this Matsuki guy... is he the new pitcher from Japan?

 

[Joe Bryant]

PS - Ask me this question again in two years I may not feel the same way. Just went over the 30 year-old hill and the body doesn't quite do things the same as when I was 25 hehe.

What kind of training / athletic accomplishments do you have?J

See above in response to your first request for this info. - moderate boxing/kickboxing, aikido, throws, etc.Above average athletic skills.... although like I said this is going faster than I like hehe.

Everytime I post this I know i am setting myself up for the bravado attack.... oh well.

ETA:

Father boxed/kickboxed - 2 years training there although i never really got into it. 3 years Aikido, again not serious. Some submission/throwing training (99% finger/hand/wrist) - from father again. Mostly as a teenager. Not much more than the average kid who took karate I would think.

My confidence does not depend so much on this training or experience (although it may help), but more just the fact that I am in good shape and am not stupid enough to allow a guy half my size to even get to where he could hit my chin. Please don't take this as macho... not my intention.

Sorry, but I'd put pretty much whatever money I could put together on the pro featherweight. Your best case scenario would be to hope you walked away under your own power. You do realize that you being "not stupid enough" to allow a guy to hit your chin has nothing whatsoever to do with stupidity. This would be about him dominating you with you being unable to do much about it. I'm sure you'd want to keep him away from punching your chin.

J

 

[JZilla]

could put us up for a little street match between matuski and Rudy Perez?

Maybe against Rudy Perez http://www.rudyperez.com/But not the boxer.

Good video explaining what would be happening in matski's brain http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKRdUoyUEp4...ted&search=

Kinetic energy and the transferral of it is a skill. And a professional boxer has that skill to a level few humans in the universe do. Size certianly matters as the video says. But even a lighter guy would have enough power to put our FBGer eating with a straw for a long time.

J

NahI really don't think those guys are strong enough. You can't convince me that they are. I've watched too many featherweight fights. They'd have to throw too many punches, even to take out someone their own size. Those guys have pastrami for arms. I have more muscle just from lifting my fat ### out of bed.

Too weak to strike a quick blow on an opponent of that superior size. The opponent would have to really, really suck to get beaten down by one of these girls.

 

[Chase Stuart]

could put us up for a little street match between matuski and Rudy Perez?

Maybe against Rudy Perez http://www.rudyperez.com/But not the boxer.

Good video explaining what would be happening in matski's brain http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKRdUoyUEp4...ted&search=

Kinetic energy and the transferral of it is a skill. And a professional boxer has that skill to a level few humans in the universe do. Size certianly matters as the video says. But even a lighter guy would have enough power to put our FBGer eating with a straw for a long time.

J

NahI really don't think those guys are strong enough. You can't convince me that they are. I've watched too many featherweight fights. They'd have to throw too many punches, even to take out someone their own size. Those guys have pastrami for arms. I have more muscle just from lifting my fat ### out of bed.

Too weak to strike a quick blow on an opponent of that superior size. The opponent would have to really, really suck to get beaten down by one of these girls.

Don't you think they'd throw just a tiny bit harder if they knew the guy they were fighting couldn't punch back at crazy high speeds?

 

[matuski]

Surely this isn't the first time this has come up...

has there not been a promoter out there crazy enough to put an amateur against a small pro?

 

[matuski]

could put us up for a little street match between matuski and Rudy Perez?

Maybe against Rudy Perez http://www.rudyperez.com/But not the boxer.

Good video explaining what would be happening in matski's brain http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKRdUoyUEp4...ted&search=

Kinetic energy and the transferral of it is a skill. And a professional boxer has that skill to a level few humans in the universe do. Size certianly matters as the video says. But even a lighter guy would have enough power to put our FBGer eating with a straw for a long time.

J

NahI really don't think those guys are strong enough. You can't convince me that they are. I've watched too many featherweight fights. They'd have to throw too many punches, even to take out someone their own size. Those guys have pastrami for arms. I have more muscle just from lifting my fat ### out of bed.

Too weak to strike a quick blow on an opponent of that superior size. The opponent would have to really, really suck to get beaten down by one of these girls.

Don't you think they'd throw just a tiny bit harder if they knew the guy they were fighting couldn't punch back at crazy high speeds?

It would be hard to muster anything extra standing on the milk crate they would need to reach a guy that much taller.

 

[JZilla]

could put us up for a little street match between matuski and Rudy Perez?

Maybe against Rudy Perez http://www.rudyperez.com/But not the boxer.

Good video explaining what would be happening in matski's brain http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKRdUoyUEp4...ted&search=

Kinetic energy and the transferral of it is a skill. And a professional boxer has that skill to a level few humans in the universe do. Size certianly matters as the video says. But even a lighter guy would have enough power to put our FBGer eating with a straw for a long time.

J

NahI really don't think those guys are strong enough. You can't convince me that they are. I've watched too many featherweight fights. They'd have to throw too many punches, even to take out someone their own size. Those guys have pastrami for arms. I have more muscle just from lifting my fat ### out of bed.

Too weak to strike a quick blow on an opponent of that superior size. The opponent would have to really, really suck to get beaten down by one of these girls.

Don't you think they'd throw just a tiny bit harder if they knew the guy they were fighting couldn't punch back at crazy high speeds?

Tiny. Good word.Those dudes are weak. Weak.

 

[Joe Bryant]

could put us up for a little street match between matuski and Rudy Perez?

Maybe against Rudy Perez http://www.rudyperez.com/But not the boxer.

Good video explaining what would be happening in matski's brain http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKRdUoyUEp4...ted&search=

Kinetic energy and the transferral of it is a skill. And a professional boxer has that skill to a level few humans in the universe do. Size certianly matters as the video says. But even a lighter guy would have enough power to put our FBGer eating with a straw for a long time.

J

NahI really don't think those guys are strong enough. You can't convince me that they are. I've watched too many featherweight fights. They'd have to throw too many punches, even to take out someone their own size. Those guys have pastrami for arms. I have more muscle just from lifting my fat ### out of bed.

Too weak to strike a quick blow on an opponent of that superior size. The opponent would have to really, really suck to get beaten down by one of these girls.

It would be interesting jzilla to see what kind of force these guys can generate. I bet with all the TV stuff around these days. someone has that data about how much force a featherweight punch generates. It's as much about the legs as it is the arm. These guys crack a punch like a whip. It's a very different skill. I boxed for a couple of years in college and was no good. But the lesson I learned is that it's unbelievably hard to do what the pros do. Everyone thinks they can. And most can't hold their gloves up after 1 round.

The 'tough guy' competitions are the best where they let regular guys fight. It's a joke for most of these guys.

J

 

[matuski]

After all this I don't think the OP ever offered his opinion

 

[Joe Bryant]

Surely this isn't the first time this has come up...has there not been a promoter out there crazy enough to put an amateur against a small pro?

It would be because of what I'm saying. It'd be a total trainwreck of a mismatch.No promoter would ever touch that. It'd be like fighting a girl for them.J