Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
I would like to put some food for thought out there for ALL LIVES on this board, I don't care what jersey color you sport right now. Honestly if you look back, I was vocal prior to 2016 about Trump but I did not continue to spike the football after he won, in fact I steer clear of the politics thread all together, to me it's a lot of MM and I can't believe grown men have to summon mods and get timeouts, etc...anyways I don't desire that in any thread I'm trying to put together in here. I would prefer we try to mend some fences and that is why I want to try and put forth something constructive vs destructive, instead of dividing, let's stop fighting. We have some pretty smart folks around here, many partially educated and so I thought about an event that could drive the country into two camps and how could that issue actually be ironed out in a way the country could rally behind and get out of this funk.
Would I be willing to go along with a lockdown that had a definite start and stop point and would have very clear rules/guidelines/laws for that period of time with the understanding we are going to try and return to thing prior to the pandemic or at least get this virus in our rearview mirror even if we have to make some changes moving forward? I think that's general enough to include a lot of folks, most Americans no matter who they voted for.
-At this point, wouldn't most businesses like to have an opportunity that have stayed in the game, to know going into 2021 "OK we are going to get past this"
First things First and I want to be crystal clear about this. Any lockdown that does not involve the SHUTDOWN of ALL Airports to almost everyone, I point at that as a huge way this virus exploded down here in Florida as people vacated NYC to come down here. I feel like I have to always say this but I DONT BLAME THEM! I would have done the same (expletive) thing. That doesn't mean that locking down the airports wasn't a good idea, in fact I find it essential in any lock down game plan.
And that's why I am wanting to get to this part. We can fight about Biden/Trump but what would really benefit all of us RIGHT NOW?! The inability to plan for the future, to not know if you are going to have a job or not, if the stock market is just over inflated and waiting to drop, there's a lot of uncertainty and I am very concerned for small business. I have many friends who own small businesses and I hold a Prop/Casualty Ins Lic and have watched a lot of businesses disappear over this pandemic. I think we really need to look at how much further back we are going to be set by long legal court battles over this election.
We need to think logistics here. We have a lot of people who already had the Coronavirus and might be able to help out the others in their immediate community during a lockdown to help facilitate essentials that people will surely need.
-We would need to send another stimulus check to tie folks over for 1-2-3 more month/months, we can discuss that number but I'm just laying out basics that you could package into a roaring speech and energize this country and end a lot of these other illnesses simultaneously like the mental issues. I personally am suffering from C.A.D. do you know what that is? Coronavirus Anxiety Disorder and a lot of people are suffering from it. Some folks call it fatigue but this is not just being tired and needing an afternoon nap.
I'll turn this over to you all. I wanted to thank this board for once again showing me that I do have a voice when i want to be heard. Yesterday I got like a wild number of responses, likes, quotes in a very quick period and I was overwhelmed, hadn't seen that since the "exploit/avoid" threads so I thought I might take the lead and return the favor and give you all something you can sink your teeth into outside of all this bickering over ballot dumps.
We've got to find something we can unite behind that doesn't involve wars, attacks, foreign boogeymen in the desert, we need to unite for a while and give people something they can feel good about. Just my opinion.
I need to share also the vibe I got from my conservative friends around town...what I am sharing here with you all doesn't seem to sound good to any of them. Meaning what I hear so far is a deep belief that it's OK if this thing plays out in the Courts for 6-12 months and Trump is still sitting as President come Super Bowl 55...so let's try and be understanding of each other and also can we get some thicker skin in here? I want to have a discussion that is more about how we could work together and try and get everyone to rally around something that benefits the most folks. And if I am way off here I'm sure you all will let me know but what I am sharing about the initial reaction by most conservatives I speak with, they aren't too hot for what I'm suggesting.
The theme here is that a long court battle over a few thousand votes is going to further divide this country and go down a dangerous path IMHO. I'll shut up for a bit and would like to get some thoughts on any of this and let's try and stay away from things like "Lawsuit filed in PA" because I'm operating under the assumption that Biden will eventually be announced as the winner and we have many other election result threads, this is more of a philosophical discussion, nobody should have to apologize for who they supported to get to this point right now, what matters is what we can do together moving forward.
Cheers!
Would I be willing to go along with a lockdown that had a definite start and stop point and would have very clear rules/guidelines/laws for that period of time with the understanding we are going to try and return to thing prior to the pandemic or at least get this virus in our rearview mirror even if we have to make some changes moving forward? I think that's general enough to include a lot of folks, most Americans no matter who they voted for.
-At this point, wouldn't most businesses like to have an opportunity that have stayed in the game, to know going into 2021 "OK we are going to get past this"
First things First and I want to be crystal clear about this. Any lockdown that does not involve the SHUTDOWN of ALL Airports to almost everyone, I point at that as a huge way this virus exploded down here in Florida as people vacated NYC to come down here. I feel like I have to always say this but I DONT BLAME THEM! I would have done the same (expletive) thing. That doesn't mean that locking down the airports wasn't a good idea, in fact I find it essential in any lock down game plan.
And that's why I am wanting to get to this part. We can fight about Biden/Trump but what would really benefit all of us RIGHT NOW?! The inability to plan for the future, to not know if you are going to have a job or not, if the stock market is just over inflated and waiting to drop, there's a lot of uncertainty and I am very concerned for small business. I have many friends who own small businesses and I hold a Prop/Casualty Ins Lic and have watched a lot of businesses disappear over this pandemic. I think we really need to look at how much further back we are going to be set by long legal court battles over this election.
We need to think logistics here. We have a lot of people who already had the Coronavirus and might be able to help out the others in their immediate community during a lockdown to help facilitate essentials that people will surely need.
-We would need to send another stimulus check to tie folks over for 1-2-3 more month/months, we can discuss that number but I'm just laying out basics that you could package into a roaring speech and energize this country and end a lot of these other illnesses simultaneously like the mental issues. I personally am suffering from C.A.D. do you know what that is? Coronavirus Anxiety Disorder and a lot of people are suffering from it. Some folks call it fatigue but this is not just being tired and needing an afternoon nap.
I'll turn this over to you all. I wanted to thank this board for once again showing me that I do have a voice when i want to be heard. Yesterday I got like a wild number of responses, likes, quotes in a very quick period and I was overwhelmed, hadn't seen that since the "exploit/avoid" threads so I thought I might take the lead and return the favor and give you all something you can sink your teeth into outside of all this bickering over ballot dumps.
We've got to find something we can unite behind that doesn't involve wars, attacks, foreign boogeymen in the desert, we need to unite for a while and give people something they can feel good about. Just my opinion.
I need to share also the vibe I got from my conservative friends around town...what I am sharing here with you all doesn't seem to sound good to any of them. Meaning what I hear so far is a deep belief that it's OK if this thing plays out in the Courts for 6-12 months and Trump is still sitting as President come Super Bowl 55...so let's try and be understanding of each other and also can we get some thicker skin in here? I want to have a discussion that is more about how we could work together and try and get everyone to rally around something that benefits the most folks. And if I am way off here I'm sure you all will let me know but what I am sharing about the initial reaction by most conservatives I speak with, they aren't too hot for what I'm suggesting.
The theme here is that a long court battle over a few thousand votes is going to further divide this country and go down a dangerous path IMHO. I'll shut up for a bit and would like to get some thoughts on any of this and let's try and stay away from things like "Lawsuit filed in PA" because I'm operating under the assumption that Biden will eventually be announced as the winner and we have many other election result threads, this is more of a philosophical discussion, nobody should have to apologize for who they supported to get to this point right now, what matters is what we can do together moving forward.
Cheers!