That is an excellent question. Although I'm not a true fan, I've had a lot of Broncos on my teams for the past two seasons and, as a result, watched almost all of their games. The bottom line is Bailey is on the downside of his career and the rest of the defense is just not that talented. I don't think the Broncos got everything that they were expecting in Dre Bly. Either the league has figured out Dumervil, or he doesn't have his A-game, b/c the D-line is getting no pressure. They are soft hitters, and opposing wideouts have no fear going over the middle. Broncos fans must miss the days of Atwater. Moreover, they can't really stop the run either without pressing to the line, so they are vulnerable to the play-action. They have some playmakers on D, but not nearly enough in the right places, so the unit at best resembles a poor man's San Diego or Arizona. I don't know enough about the rookies to tell you if it will improve, but the D certainly has a long way to go.Can any homers or someone in the know, explain what the issue is with Denver's Def? I haven't been able to see any games, but thought they were known for extreme talent at CB position, but they are getting torched...
You be the judge:Week 1: Lelie 3-37 + 1TD; Curry 2 18 + 1TDWeek 2: Chambers 4-83 + 2TD's, VJax 6-73Week 3: Meachem 2-86; Dev Henderson 2-42Week 4: Bowe 7-85The last time I really focused in on it (maybe last year) Bailey was a shut down corner who opposing QB's wouldn't even throw to his side... I think the feeling was that unless the WR was one of the elite, don't start him if facing Bailey. So is that line of thinking over with now? From what you guys are saying, it sounds like Qb's can just hang out with no real rush and pick the defense apart. From a fantasy standpoint, obviously for the 1st few games QB's are a must start against them.. What about individual Wr's... Can a so/so #1WR be a great start even when facing Bailey because Bailey can only hang with the WR for so long?.....
only because the end zone wasn't far enough away.Well, he has held them under 100 yards!!!
only because the end zone wasn't far enough away.Well, he has held them under 100 yards!!!
Your OP was (somewhat) cleverly disguised. This one, not so much.Antonio Bryant this week? 7-80 1td maybe?
Then explain the previous defensive coordinators?Denver has zero pass rush and until that is fixed anybody, and I mean Damon Huard type, can exploit them.Aaronstory said:Two words:Bob. Slowik.
I can see what you are saying but the defense looks bad from the beginning of the game to the end, so I have a hard time chalking it up to a tired defense. There is also the argument that playing defense is easier when you have the lead and can pin your ears back and rush the passer on every play. Denver has had big leads in every game except the last one and has failed to hold on to the big lead. I think it boils down to a bad defense due to various reasons listed prior to this post.I do not post often, but I have a definite feeling about this question.Teams who control the clock well have good defenses. Teams who run the ball well are usually up on top. Denver throws often, and that does not bode well for a defense. It means less time on the field for the offense, and more time on the field for the defense. Playing defense requires a certain amount of rest due to the tedium of having to react as opposed to following a known regimen involved in a play. I do not think (although I am sure you could prove me wrong) that under normal circumstance passing teams will generally have good defenses. Teams with a pass first offense will wear their defense out. They are on the field too much. Denver is most definitely relies on the passing game more than the running game at this point. I would go as far as to say that the better a team gets at the passing game, they tend to lose the same amount at defense. Balance is and always has been the key to a good overall football team. Denver needs a running game.
Denver leads the NFL in first downs. There's nothing better for a defense than an offense that generates lots of first downs.Of course, a better offense doesn't make a defense better; it just makes their stats better.I do not post often, but I have a definite feeling about this question.Teams who control the clock well have good defenses. Teams who run the ball well are usually up on top. Denver throws often, and that does not bode well for a defense. It means less time on the field for the offense, and more time on the field for the defense. Playing defense requires a certain amount of rest due to the tedium of having to react as opposed to following a known regimen involved in a play. I do not think (although I am sure you could prove me wrong) that under normal circumstance passing teams will generally have good defenses. Teams with a pass first offense will wear their defense out. They are on the field too much. Denver is most definitely relies on the passing game more than the running game at this point. I would go as far as to say that the better a team gets at the passing game, they tend to lose the same amount at defense. Balance is and always has been the key to a good overall football team. Denver needs a running game.
Explain them how? The Denver defense has gone from mediocre to a complete joke. That, my friend, is the Slowik touch.Then explain the previous defensive coordinators?Denver has zero pass rush and until that is fixed anybody, and I mean Damon Huard type, can exploit them.Aaronstory said:Two words:Bob. Slowik.
That sums it up. Bailey is trying to do too much and so is starting to get burned on some plays being out of position. He's not getting much help back there at all, and the DL is not strong at pass rushing (6 sacks to date, tied for 23rd in the NFL).i agree the DL & back of the secondary are the chief culprits...
Mark Wimer said:That sums it up. Bailey is trying to do too much and so is starting to get burned on some plays being out of position. He's not getting much help back there at all, and the DL is not strong at pass rushing (6 sacks to date, tied for 23rd in the NFL).Bob Magaw said:i agree the DL & back of the secondary are the chief culprits...
Bailey hasn't played primarily in man coverage since... 2005, 2006. Nowadays he just plays the defensive left (offensive right) and covers whoever lines up across from him. He's still fine- when receivers are doing damage, it's still rarely against Champ. When opposing offenses even challenge him in the first place. Football Outsiders charted the games last year and found that the only two CBs in the entire league that teams actually avoided challenging were Bailey and Nnamdi Asomugha. Bailey is also still textbook perfect in run support, including a great tackle on Larry Johnson where he went low, flipped him over his back, and forced a fumble. I am truly convinced that if the defense decided to line Bailey up as an LB, he'd still be an all-pro. He might not be as good at wading through traffic as a Zach Thomas, but he just doesn't miss tackles.You be the judge:Week 1: Lelie 3-37 + 1TD; Curry 2 18 + 1TDWeek 2: Chambers 4-83 + 2TD's, VJax 6-73Week 3: Meachem 2-86; Dev Henderson 2-42Week 4: Bowe 7-85The last time I really focused in on it (maybe last year) Bailey was a shut down corner who opposing QB's wouldn't even throw to his side... I think the feeling was that unless the WR was one of the elite, don't start him if facing Bailey. So is that line of thinking over with now? From what you guys are saying, it sounds like Qb's can just hang out with no real rush and pick the defense apart. From a fantasy standpoint, obviously for the 1st few games QB's are a must start against them.. What about individual Wr's... Can a so/so #1WR be a great start even when facing Bailey because Bailey can only hang with the WR for so long?.....
Yup. Jarvis Moss, too.No pass rush whatsoever...Jarvis Green is a total loser.
Mostly this. Bailey is still one of the best (Nnamdi and Champ are duking it out for the title, imo), and Bly is not nearly as bad as reports would lead you to believe... but outside of Bailey and Bly, no one on that defense can cover. Outside of Bailey and Williams, no one on the defense can tackle. Outside of Dumervil, nobody on that defense can pressure the QB (and even Dumervil hasn't been able to so far this year). Those are the three biggest components to good defense- covering, tackling, and pressuring the QB- and Denver has gaping holes in all three areas this year.Champ is still one of the best. Bly is still a good starting CB. No pass rush. Mediocre coverage LBs. Bad coverage safeties. Bad coverage nickel back.