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For those of you with older parents, at what point do you risk visiting them (after quarantining yourself for 2 weeks)?  
I don't but spoke to my mother yesterday (90 in July, cancer survivor) as my brother visits daily (see post a few up). I told her I was a little worried about that, but she said my brother is high risk so only goes to the store, wearing mask and gloves. So he is doing his best to be safe, in spite of the excessive visits. She said when he comes, she sits in her chair and he stays on the couch, which does give them the six foot distance. I guess other than the danger of something he touches being infected and her later touching it, they feel safe enough. But their county has barely been touched, so they likely can get away with it. I was happy to hear my mom talking about it and what she does PPE wise. Basically, she IS serious and does what she can to be careful. So I just have to hope it continues to work out.
good to hear the followup that your mom is being careful. but isn't there a way for your brother to stay outside the house while he visits, so as to not risk it? imagine if she gets sick... it's without a doubt your brother's fault. 

 
Lately I’ve had more of a “if I get it, I get” attitude - I haven’t changed any social distancing behavior but just trying to not be afraid of getting it.
I'm getting to that point also.  Still taking all precautions, but I was in super germaphobe mode a few weeks ago when going to the store.  Now not so much.
I keep reading about guys like me- but fitter, and without pre-existing conditions- who have died.

yeah- I'm getting incredibly tired of this. but I'm not at the "ready to die out of laziness" point yet.

 
jwb said:
I'm here too. And truthfully, this is a place we're all going to have to get to.

Let's be completely honest about this: no vaccine is coming anytime soon. How long is everyone willing to not see parents / kids / friends / etc? 
They can come over, you can go over there

Just stay in the driveway 

But you’re spot on, the normal is gonna be the norm for a long time 

 
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They can come over, you can go over there

Just stay in the driveway 

But you’re spot on, the normal is gonna be the norm for a long time 
In that sense, then we've already had our last family bbq. We've had our last xmas dinner. Last summer pool party. Last vacation together. Etc. 

I know there's this sense of "when things are safe", but without a vaccine, "safe" is simply not possible without these extreme measures. 

My 78 y/o mom never again hugs her children and grandchildren? Is that really our future?

I know this is a downer, but we need to start discussing this mindset and reality, and ask whether it's worth it. Or do we start saying "look, let's continue washing hands a lot / sanitizing shopping carts, do masks in public and stay home when sick, but let's start living again"

 
In that sense, then we've already had our last family bbq. We've had our last xmas dinner. Last summer pool party. Last vacation together. Etc. 

I know there's this sense of "when things are safe", but without a vaccine, "safe" is simply not possible without these extreme measures. 

My 78 y/o mom never again hugs her children and grandchildren? Is that really our future?

I know this is a downer, but we need to start discussing this mindset and reality, and ask whether it's worth it. Or do we start saying "look, let's continue washing hands a lot / sanitizing shopping carts, do masks in public and stay home when sick, but let's start living again"
Not never. But 12-18 months? Yes.

The choice is teach her how to Zoom or roll the dice on her demise. Obviously that’s not a choice.

But it’s not not just your reality. Or mine. It’s the same if you live in Oslo or Melbourne or Capetown.

It is hard. It is a massive paradigm shift. We would all rather have normalcy as we once knew it and skin to skin hugs instead of waves through a device screen. But you are not alone. We are all dealing with these same similar pains.

 
Not never. But 12-18 months? Yes.

The choice is teach her how to Zoom or roll the dice on her demise. Obviously that’s not a choice.

But it’s not not just your reality. Or mine. It’s the same if you live in Oslo or Melbourne or Capetown.

It is hard. It is a massive paradigm shift. We would all rather have normalcy as we once knew it and skin to skin hugs instead of waves through a device screen. But you are not alone. We are all dealing with these same similar pains.
Oh, I know. When I say my mother, I kind of mean a similar situation for everyone. We've all got someone vulnerable in our lives.   

You are right - in the way you put it ("Zoom or roll the dice"), it's not really a choice.

 
Oh, I know. When I say my mother, I kind of mean a similar situation for everyone. We've all got someone vulnerable in our lives.   

You are right - in the way you put it ("Zoom or roll the dice"), it's not really a choice.
I hear ya though. Didn’t mean to seem dismissive. It’s not easy dealing with all the disruption and not seeing a clear path or timeline back to life as we once knew it. That part sucks.

 
I hear ya though. Didn’t mean to seem dismissive. It’s not easy dealing with all the disruption and not seeing a clear path or timeline back to life as we once knew it. That part sucks.
you weren't dismissive at all. I got where you were coming from. Happy for the conversation!  

 
AAABatteries said:
 Lately I’ve had more of a “if I get it, I get” attitude - I haven’t changed any social distancing behavior but just trying to not be afraid of getting it.
Right here with you. I am social distancing, staying home as much as possible, but I have also taken more of a "I am going to do everything I can without driving myself nuts, and if something happens to me, so be it. I worry more about  my wife and step daughter for health related reasons so I am doing the best I can, particularly for them, but I am not particularly worried about myself. 

 
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El Floppo said:
I keep reading about guys like me- but fitter, and without pre-existing conditions- who have died.

yeah- I'm getting incredibly tired of this. but I'm not at the "ready to die out of laziness" point yet.
I'm not talking about being lazy, I'm talking about being more rational.  Like, stop taking the box of cereal behind the one in front, because there is a higher probability that the one in front was touched more recently by another shopper type of psycho.

 
ChiefD said:
I'm more worried about my liver.
I have been drinking 3-4 beers, maybe a vodka drink here and there, every Friday night.  Overall I think my consumption is down.

I tell ya, though.... once this crap blows over I am going to be going out 2-3 nights a week I think.

 
I'm not talking about being lazy, I'm talking about being more rational.  Like, stop taking the box of cereal behind the one in front, because there is a higher probability that the one in front was touched more recently by another shopper type of psycho.
I do that, but not from a germaphobe way.  I always assume the stuff in the back is fresher and in case of frozen food, less temperature change.

 
fred_1_15301 said:
For those of you with older parents, at what point do you risk visiting them (after quarantining yourself for 2 weeks)?  
The weather is nice or will be getting nice. You can sit a good distance away from them outside. Being outside is better than being enclosed. I'd still wear a mask though since 6 ft is a guess just to be safe with my elders.

 
El Floppo said:
good to hear the followup that your mom is being careful. but isn't there a way for your brother to stay outside the house while he visits, so as to not risk it? imagine if she gets sick... it's without a doubt your brother's fault. 
Could he? Yes. Will he? I honestly don't know. My mother simply won't tell him no, that's just how she is. Never risk hurting anyone's feelings. My sister sees nothing wrong with his visits. She seems to think it is a bit overblown, though she does what she's supposed to do for the most part. Basically I and my mom are the only truly rule-following serious ones. But her lack of ability to tell any of her kids no, she just lets him in and convinces herself it will probably be ok. Funny thing is, my brother is uber-sensitive. I have no doubt that if he ever did give it to her and it cost her her life, he would be devastated and never forgive himself. I mention it every time I talk to her, but she simply justifies it with all the "he's careful, he keeps his distance" stuff. I have to accept she will just never say "You know, i think you need to step inside the door and stop right there while we talk." Perhaps, at her age, she's simply not that worried about passing since she lost her husband, my dad,  just about two years ago.

 
Could he? Yes. Will he? I honestly don't know. My mother simply won't tell him no, that's just how she is. Never risk hurting anyone's feelings. My sister sees nothing wrong with his visits. She seems to think it is a bit overblown, though she does what she's supposed to do for the most part. Basically I and my mom are the only truly rule-following serious ones. But her lack of ability to tell any of her kids no, she just lets him in and convinces herself it will probably be ok. Funny thing is, my brother is uber-sensitive. I have no doubt that if he ever did give it to her and it cost her her life, he would be devastated and never forgive himself. I mention it every time I talk to her, but she simply justifies it with all the "he's careful, he keeps his distance" stuff. I have to accept she will just never say "You know, i think you need to step inside the door and stop right there while we talk." Perhaps, at her age, she's simply not that worried about passing since she lost her husband, my dad,  just about two years ago.
All the best. Chances are good I hope, that if she hasn't gotten it by now, and your brother's being careful in his life, that it's all fine. 

 
I gots ta admit, things have been kinda rough for me lately, but I feel the light at the end of the tunnel coming on ...

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Getting ready to do some early Christmas gift wrapping?
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THANKS FOR NOT NOTICING THE DUMBBELL! 

 btw, my gf didn't get the tree down 'til Super Bowl Weekend  :lmao:


....?

As far as I's can tell, the DUMBELL's face isn't even in the picture!!!!

BOOM!

There.

I feels much better now.

Luvs ya Tobey. ;)

And yer fuzzy socks (or is my vision just fuzzy?)

 
My doctor refilled a prescription for klonopin without making me show up for an appointment.   So feeling pretty good.

 
My doctor refilled a prescription for klonopin without making me show up for an appointment.   So feeling pretty good.
Is that the norm? Why, just to get the co-pay?

GENERAL Question about Rx...

I’m new to better living through chemistry.I’ll be 58 this summer and until Thanksgiving 2019 I had never been in a refillable prescription. I’ve taken medicine before (antibodies or steroids etc to overcome a temporary illness) but I’ve never been on meds.

Anyway, all three of my prescriptions have written on them x refills of x. They don’t automatically send them to me, but I call a number when I’m getting low, and within 3-5 days it’s in my mailbox. I usually do a brief phone consultation once a month & my doc asked me if I want to keep taking them.

Isn't this how most people get drugs?

(ASIDE - I am on a vitamin D supplement, low dose Lipitor for my moderately high cholesterol, a low dose SSRI because my body doesn’t make enough serotonin.)

 
Furlough meetings suck. Have to furlough a few employees in the morning and I already have a knot in my stomach as the anxiety ramos up.

I have terminated many people in my career and this just feels worse. 
 

And HR, those talking points you provided also suck.

 
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Furlough meetings suck. Have to furlough a few employees in the morning and I already have a knot in my stomach as the anxiety ramos up.

I have terminated many people in my career and this just feels worse. 
 

And HR, those talking points you provided also suck.
there's a reason why the HR "person" in Dilbert is a squatty little devil

 
My mood when this all started was pretty down.  I couldn't believe my kids were pulled out of school.  Couldn't believe things were getting shut down.  Couldn't believe sports were taking hiatuses.  Eventually I've become accustomed to the "new normal" (God I hate that term, but will use it here).

But damn, over the past 24 hours I've really taken a turn.  Maybe it's because of some of the posts in the "main" COVID thread.  Thoughts of things never going back to normal (or something close) really depresses me.  And not just for my sake, but for my kids' sake. 

So my mood's been like a rollercoaster the past several weeks.  Up, down, back up... now really hitting a down point.  I am a social person, and I'm sorry... "Zoom happy hours" aren't gonna cut it.  

 
I have been struggling recently. It is really impacting me more than I thought it would. I would not say quite in a depression but I am in a serious funk for sure. It is impacting my ability to function well on a day to day level. 

 
I'm not doing tremendously well but not tremendously poorly, either. It seems like CA will being phasing in opening certain things by mid-to-late May, and while motivation to do essential things in life has been rough lately, I've really been making a go of it at Grover Cleveland.

I don't miss Rushmore one bit.

 
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Eventually I've become accustomed to the "new normal" (God I hate that term, but will use it here).
Same here. I cringe every time I hear it. And double-cringe every I say it myself.

Can we come up with an alternate phrase? 

But damn, over the past 24 hours I've really taken a turn.  Maybe it's because of some of the posts in the "main" COVID thread.  Thoughts of things never going back to normal (or something close) really depresses me.  And not just for my sake, but for my kids' sake. 

So my mood's been like a rollercoaster the past several weeks.  Up, down, back up... now really hitting a down point.  I am a social person, and I'm sorry... "Zoom happy hours" aren't gonna cut it.  
I hear ya buddy. I'm the eternal optimist but damn, it's easy to go down a rabbit hole when reading the Covid-19 thread, watching the "news", thinking about what may change in the not-so-distant future......

It's easy to get dragged down by the pessimism and negativity, especially since there is so much of it...

 
I have been drinking 3-4 beers, maybe a vodka drink here and there, every Friday night.  Overall I think my consumption is down.

I tell ya, though.... once this crap blows over I am going to be going out 2-3 nights a week I think.
It's going to be like Studio 54 at dive bars. Long lines outside and only a couple people at a time let in.

 
My mood when this all started was pretty down.  I couldn't believe my kids were pulled out of school.  Couldn't believe things were getting shut down.  Couldn't believe sports were taking hiatuses.  Eventually I've become accustomed to the "new normal" (God I hate that term, but will use it here).

But damn, over the past 24 hours I've really taken a turn.  Maybe it's because of some of the posts in the "main" COVID thread.  Thoughts of things never going back to normal (or something close) really depresses me.  And not just for my sake, but for my kids' sake. 

So my mood's been like a rollercoaster the past several weeks.  Up, down, back up... now really hitting a down point.  I am a social person, and I'm sorry... "Zoom happy hours" aren't gonna cut it.  


Same here. I cringe every time I hear it. And double-cringe every I say it myself.

Can we come up with an alternate phrase? 

I hear ya buddy. I'm the eternal optimist but damn, it's easy to go down a rabbit hole when reading the Covid-19 thread, watching the "news", thinking about what may change in the not-so-distant future......

It's easy to get dragged down by the pessimism and negativity, especially since there is so much of it...
Just stay out of that thread guys.  I venture in every weekend, lose my mind, and sometimes post stuff just to stir up the doomers.  There are a couple of posters there who will NEVER concede that life should be anything but a big pile of scared poop from now on.  They have bought into the early models and the current CYA stances of some hook line and sinker.  They apparently think "life" means living with no risk.  They are wrong.

There are plenty of stories of optimism out there.  Hell, Sweden is one.  We're going to come out of this SOON, at a smart pace; we're going to protect those who are truly at risk when we need to, and the rest of us are going to keep living a GOOD life, not a SCARED life.  I've been as depressed and angry as anyone I think.  My life is infinitely better without the influence of the "in-crowd" in that thread in it.

 
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Is that the norm? Why, just to get the co-pay?

GENERAL Question about Rx...

I’m new to better living through chemistry.I’ll be 58 this summer and until Thanksgiving 2019 I had never been in a refillable prescription. I’ve taken medicine before (antibodies or steroids etc to overcome a temporary illness) but I’ve never been on meds.

Anyway, all three of my prescriptions have written on them x refills of x. They don’t automatically send them to me, but I call a number when I’m getting low, and within 3-5 days it’s in my mailbox. I usually do a brief phone consultation once a month & my doc asked me if I want to keep taking them.

Isn't this how most people get drugs?

(ASIDE - I am on a vitamin D supplement, low dose Lipitor for my moderately high cholesterol, a low dose SSRI because my body doesn’t make enough serotonin.)
Generally with benzos they don't give you automatic refills.   You have to actually go in and get checked out and then they'll do it.

 
Finally had something make me truly feel good during this crap fest. Work has been INSANELY busy. Tomorrow is my birthday. I told me wife I planned to try and log out on time tomorrow but just couldn't promise because we just had a new system go live and I am the lead (ok, only) software developer on the project. However, the IT portion went poorly, they had to cancel the live testing  for a few days and my schedule parted like the Red Sea! Not only do I not have to worry about logging out on time, I was actually able to take the day off! Yea, I may go back to a hundred or more emails Thursday and next week be thinking "why didn't I use that time more wisely?" But damn, as someone who hasn't had a day off in forever, this feels good!

 
But damn, over the past 24 hours I've really taken a turn.  Maybe it's because of some of the posts in the "main" COVID thread.  Thoughts of things never going back to normal (or something close) really depresses me.  And not just for my sake, but for my kids' sake. 
This too shall pass.

 
I hear ya buddy. I'm the eternal optimist but damn, it's easy to go down a rabbit hole when reading the Covid-19 thread, watching the "news", thinking about what may change in the not-so-distant future......
Keep taking the necessary precautions and stop watching the news.  Worked tremendously for me.

 
As far is hating the phrase “the new normal”.  I wouldn’t worry about that sticking around very long. My Eagles used that phrase after they won they Super Bowl. Well let’s just say we don’t say it anymore. 😬

 
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it is my weekend stress reliever.  I am optimistic it will be normal again and this virus will pass 
I play a lot of live poker so I'm a bit stressed about if and when my poker room will open again. I would imagine it will be all shorthanded games in the beginning. This could be tough keeping games going.  I do think it will come back but very slowly.  I know Vegas is already working on its reopening procedures. I really don't want to have to play online again. I don't trust it at all.

 
My doctor refilled a prescription for klonopin without making me show up for an appointment.   So feeling pretty good.
I had an appointment with my urologist last week via the AnywhereCare app. So he couldn’t stick his finger up my butt. I don’t know which one of us more disappointment. 

 
Keep taking the necessary precautions and stop watching the news.  Worked tremendously for me.
Yea, this, and staying out of the FFA thread. Seriously, if you ever venture in to that thread, you would literally think the wold is ending. There can be some good info found in there to be sure. But I think this board has some of the most pessimistic people the world has ever seen. And even pessimistic is probably understated. Despondent maybe.

 
Where is this? How big of a room? Are you gonna play online?
I live in Phoenix and there is an Indian casino 5 minutes from my house.  It had a great 25 table poker room.  They just let go the dealers and are putting slot machines in the room.  The other casino is 30 minutes away but should still have poker when it eventually reopens.

 
Yea, this, and staying out of the FFA thread. Seriously, if you ever venture in to that thread, you would literally think the wold is ending. There can be some good info found in there to be sure. But I think this board has some of the most pessimistic people the world has ever seen. And even pessimistic is probably understated. Despondent maybe.
One person (I wont say who but I'm sure everyone knows who im talking about) will see a positive article and scour the entire web to find one line to negate the whole article. 

 
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Yea, this, and staying out of the FFA thread. Seriously, if you ever venture in to that thread, you would literally think the wold is ending. There can be some good info found in there to be sure. But I think this board has some of the most pessimistic people the world has ever seen. And even pessimistic is probably understated. Despondent maybe.


One person (I wont say who but I'm sure everyone knows who im talking about) will see a positive article and scour the entire web to find one line to negate the whole article. 
"Look dad!  I got a puppy!  Isn't he cute?" 

"Well son, it's a shame that puppy is going to die.  And probably before you're ready for him to."

 
I live in Phoenix and there is an Indian casino 5 minutes from my house.  It had a great 25 table poker room.  They just let go the dealers and are putting slot machines in the room.  The other casino is 30 minutes away but should still have poker when it eventually reopens.
Yikes! I live in Phoenix. Which casino is this? I can't seem to find any info on this.

 
Yikes! I live in Phoenix. Which casino is this? I can't seem to find any info on this.
Wild Horse is closing their poker room.  I believe Talking Stick and Desert Diamond will keep their poker rooms but I am not positive.

 
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