When do you try to stop violence in public? (1 Viewer)

[Hoss Style]

If someone was being assaulted against their will, if someone was injured, if a security guard was breaking something up and specifically ask me for help then I wouldn't hesitate to lend a hand. If it is like the two women fighting in the Walmart there is no way I do anything and I highly, highly doubt anyone else here would. Two idiots want to roll around on the floor and pull each others hair, good for them. No way I'm getting down on the floor and rolling around with them just so i can put an end to it. i was in the supermarket tonight and thought what if two people were wrestling around in the cereal aisle, would I get in there and try to break it up? Not a chance. You get in the middle, one of them falls on your knee and you never walk the same again. When people ask why you walk with a limp you can tell them it was because you're tried and true red-blooded man who absolutely had to stop a fight in the supermarket. Everyone will be so impressed.

I for one would be willing to step into a two woman fight. My intervention would be conditional though. The two woman would need to be totally hot and they would have to fight in a vat of Jello.

I think your conditions are too limiting. I am going to try to convince you to change your position. Won't you at least consider intervening if, instead of a vat, the two hotties are in a pool or on a large tarp, and couldn't you at least consider adding pudding, whip crème, or frosting to the list of acceptable food stuffs.

Excellent point. From now on I'm carrying a large tarp around when downtown, just in case sh*+ pops off between two hotties.

 

[Otis]

Not my business unless it's adult on kid, man on woman, or many against one, and even then I'm thinking long and hard about the lawsuit I'll expose myself to trying to be an Internet hero.

 

[St. Louis Bob]

Stopping violence? That's as crazy as removing asbestos.

 

[FUBAR]

Not my business unless it's adult on kid, man on woman, or many against one, and even then I'm thinking long and hard about the lawsuit I'll expose myself to trying to be an Internet hero.

understand the thought, but don't you have the ability to just look at someone and impose your will? You be slackin'

 

[xulf]

Strip naked and get yourself aroused. Then come in swinging

 

[Sabertooth]

As a dad, if I'm with my wife and kids, their safety comes first always. That usually means getting the #### out of an area where violence has erupted.

 

[Hoss Style]

As a dad, if I'm with my wife and kids, their safety comes first always. That usually means getting the #### out of an area where violence has erupted.

Yeah, when I was young, it was fun to fight. Now, being older, I realize 'young me' was an idiot. I'll hop in to help a good friend if I think he's going to get killed (if not, then he dug his own hole, and he can dig himself out of it), family or a child.

Basically, I look at it as "Am I willing to die for this cause?", because you never know if it will end that way.

Avoid large groups of morons, as a general rule.

 

[Tecumseh]

Many years ago, one my brother's best friends was visiting New York. One night he he stepped in to help a stranger who was getting jumped by several guys. My brother's friend ended up getting stabbed to death for his trouble. I think he was around 24(?) at the time.

 

[IC FBGCav]

As a dad, if I'm with my wife and kids, their safety comes first always. That usually means getting the #### out of an area where violence has erupted.

About 15 years ago I was driving down a back road and the was a purse in the middle of the road, a little while latter there was a guy and girl going at it verbally but it looked like it might have been physical too. Messed up hair, ripped clothing etc... I had my wife and daughter in the car and wife wouldn't let me stop but did call 911.

 

[FUBAR]

As a dad, if I'm with my wife and kids, their safety comes first always. That usually means getting the #### out of an area where violence has erupted.

yep. But frankly, I have never been in this situation with kids in tow.

 

[Hoss Style]

As a dad, if I'm with my wife and kids, their safety comes first always. That usually means getting the #### out of an area where violence has erupted.

About 15 years ago I was driving down a back road and the was a purse in the middle of the road, a little while latter there was a guy and girl going at it verbally but it looked like it might have been physical too. Messed up hair, ripped clothing etc... I had my wife and daughter in the car and wife wouldn't let me stop but did call 911.

Yeah, that's the smart play these days. Call 911 and move away. Let the cops come break it up (or beat the crap out of everyone). Either way, slide on by...

 

[Guest]

If someone was being assaulted against their will, if someone was injured, if a security guard was breaking something up and specifically ask me for help then I wouldn't hesitate to lend a hand. If it is like the two women fighting in the Walmart there is no way I do anything and I highly, highly doubt anyone else here would. Two idiots want to roll around on the floor and pull each others hair, good for them. No way I'm getting down on the floor and rolling around with them just so i can put an end to it. i was in the supermarket tonight and thought what if two people were wrestling around in the cereal aisle, would I get in there and try to break it up? Not a chance. You get in the middle, one of them falls on your knee and you never walk the same again. When people ask why you walk with a limp you can tell them it was because you're tried and true red-blooded man who absolutely had to stop a fight in the supermarket. Everyone will be so impressed.

No but that Walmart example there was a good minute of #### talking before the fight occurred. It would've been real easy to escort the heffer in the scooter away from the situation before she turned back around. I'm all for a good fight but just get real annoyed that now a days people's first thought is to pull out their damn phones. There's been a ton of these lately. White trash beating each other up, fine. But what about the ones where high school kids are getting the snot kicked out of them and a bunch of idiots are standing there with their cameras out? It's very disturbing.

I just don't understand how anyone would even have the thought cross their mind that they need to "break up" two complete strangers having a smack talking conversation. Can you see the future or something? What would you say to them? "Hey, don't talk to her like that"?

Ask if they want to be on Youtube and laughed at by millions of people. If the answer is "yes" tell them to carry on.

 

[tonydead]

Never. 99% of the time there's a more logical course of action. 98% of the time it would be between strangers whom I know nothing and care little about.

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

Not my business unless it's adult on kid, man on woman, or many against one, and even then I'm thinking long and hard about the lawsuit I'll expose myself to trying to be an Internet hero.

Otiscred was built on you being a lover and a partier, not a fighter. Stick to the tried and true I say.

 

[Sabertooth]

I'd step in if it was close friend s or family.

 

[Otis]

Not my business unless it's adult on kid, man on woman, or many against one, and even then I'm thinking long and hard about the lawsuit I'll expose myself to trying to be an Internet hero.

Otiscred was built on you being a lover and a partier, not a fighter. Stick to the tried and true I say.

That's exactly right GB. It's the Oway.

 

[Willie Neslon]

I am thinking if some of the people in this thread were on United 93 that the plane would not have crashed and the terrorists would have been subdued and arrested once the plane landed safely.

 

[mrip541]

Doing that in NYC will get you shot, stabbed, or both 100% of the time.

 

[IC FBGCav]

I am thinking if some of the people in this thread were on United 93 that the plane would not have crashed and the terrorists would have been subdued and arrested once the plane landed safely.

Not even close to the same situation.

 

[Jayrod]

I am thinking if some of the people in this thread were on United 93 that the plane would not have crashed and the terrorists would have been subdued and arrested once the plane landed safely.

Go run some laps, princess.

 

[Anarchy99]

I recently got involved in essentially a domestic situation with two recently divorced people (and their significant others). I knew all of them and it was at a sports tournament (their kid and my kid are on the same team). Every derogatory curse word under the sun was tossed out. The women started getting pushed around and thrown to the ground. The men started throwing punches and swinging chairs and pummeling each other. And people were starting to get bloodied.

On the size/weight scale, I am on the bigger side and felt this was embarrassing to our team and other parents and someone could have potentially gotten seriously hurt. I intervened, broke it up, hog tied the main aggressor and forced him to take a walk and things calmed down from there. Of course someone else called the cops, it ended up going to court, and I got dragged into it, but ultimately only pride and egos got hurt.

My wife was not a fan of me getting involved as she thought I was going to be the one that got hurt getting in between a group of agitated psychotic people. She of course brought up what would have happened if one of them whipped out a gun. I still think I would do it again if the same situation presented itself.

 

[Jayrod]

She of course brought up what would have happened if one of them whipped out a gun. I still think I would do it again if the same situation presented itself.

You could just tell them to skin that smoke wagon and see what happens.

 

[Willie Neslon]

I am thinking if some of the people in this thread were on United 93 that the plane would not have crashed and the terrorists would have been subdued and arrested once the plane landed safely.

Go run some laps, princess.

Based on stuff you've posted about yourself in the past I don't want to escalate this. Take care.

 

[Jayrod]

I am thinking if some of the people in this thread were on United 93 that the plane would not have crashed and the terrorists would have been subdued and arrested once the plane landed safely.

Go run some laps, princess.

Based on stuff you've posted about yourself in the past I don't want to escalate this. Take care.

Not sure what you're referring to, but I'm just messing with you.ETA: and it seems like you are the one trying to pick a fight.

 

[Willie Neslon]

I am thinking if some of the people in this thread were on United 93 that the plane would not have crashed and the terrorists would have been subdued and arrested once the plane landed safely.

Not even close to the same situation.

Maybe not but a lot of people say they'd get involved in a violent situation after already seeing how it played out and from a distance. I just don't believe them. Easy to talk tough when you're not in it.

 

[FUBAR]

If someone was being assaulted against their will, if someone was injured, if a security guard was breaking something up and specifically ask me for help then I wouldn't hesitate to lend a hand. If it is like the two women fighting in the Walmart there is no way I do anything and I highly, highly doubt anyone else here would. Two idiots want to roll around on the floor and pull each others hair, good for them. No way I'm getting down on the floor and rolling around with them just so i can put an end to it. i was in the supermarket tonight and thought what if two people were wrestling around in the cereal aisle, would I get in there and try to break it up? Not a chance. You get in the middle, one of them falls on your knee and you never walk the same again. When people ask why you walk with a limp you can tell them it was because you're tried and true red-blooded man who absolutely had to stop a fight in the supermarket. Everyone will be so impressed.

No but that Walmart example there was a good minute of #### talking before the fight occurred. It would've been real easy to escort the heffer in the scooter away from the situation before she turned back around. I'm all for a good fight but just get real annoyed that now a days people's first thought is to pull out their damn phones. There's been a ton of these lately. White trash beating each other up, fine. But what about the ones where high school kids are getting the snot kicked out of them and a bunch of idiots are standing there with their cameras out? It's very disturbing.

I just don't understand how anyone would even have the thought cross their mind that they need to "break up" two complete strangers having a smack talking conversation. Can you see the future or something? What would you say to them? "Hey, don't talk to her like that"?

Ask if they want to be on Youtube and laughed at by millions of people. If the answer is "yes" tell them to carry on.

I'm starting to think I live in a different world than many of you. The few times I've been around an escalation like that described, it was enough to make my presence known at the time. Nothing specific need be said, just a "hey guys, how are you?" or a head nod was sufficient.

 

[General Malaise]

This is how I'd break up a fight between chicks.

 

[FUBAR]

I am thinking if some of the people in this thread were on United 93 that the plane would not have crashed and the terrorists would have been subdued and arrested once the plane landed safely.

Go run some laps, princess.

Based on stuff you've posted about yourself in the past I don't want to escalate this. Take care.

Not sure what you're referring to, but I'm just messing with you.ETA: and it seems like you are the one trying to pick a fight.

ahem *cough*

There - see! I got involved.

 

[Limp Ditka]

When people ask why you walk with a limp

You make it sound like a bad thing

 

[IC FBGCav]

This is how I'd break up a fight between chicks.

Looks just like my dog except for the penis.

 

[Fat Nick]

I loved the movie Stand By Me as a kid. Chris (River Phoenix's character) died after trying being stabbed while trying to break up a fight. Ever since I watched that movie, I've pretty much vowed I'd stay out of other people's problems.

 

[Jayrod]

I am thinking if some of the people in this thread were on United 93 that the plane would not have crashed and the terrorists would have been subdued and arrested once the plane landed safely.

Not even close to the same situation.

Maybe not but a lot of people say they'd get involved in a violent situation after already seeing how it played out and from a distance. I just don't believe them. Easy to talk tough when you're not in it.

Your blanket statements, however, are equally as merit-less. You know nothing about the people making the claims, yet you automatically don't believe them. Why? What if they were a trained professional? If you don't know the person, how do you know what they could or couldn't do?

Just seems odd to be so certain about something you can't possibly know anything about.

 

[Deranged Hermit]

Happened twice:

First time was when I was 22 or so. We were at the beach and this guy goes ballistic and just starts smacking his kid around. SHE couldn't have been more than 10. I yelled at him to stop, he looked at me and smacked the girl one more time HARD. I went over told him to try to do that to me and, after his drunken, sloppy punch missed, I beat the piss out of him as my fiance called the cops. Cops came, people around me told them what happened (guy was drunk and started to beat his daughter. took a swing at me when I intervened so I defended myself).

Second time was three years later at a bar. Guy got pissed that 'his girl was looking at other guys' so he taught he a lesson. That lesson apparently was an open handed slap across the face that dropped her. I came up behind him, tapped him on the shoulder, and open hand slapped him across the ear, dropping him. As he struggled to get up, another guy who I didn't know absolutely leveled him. Bouncer came up to us told us he'll give us a head start before he called the cops so we wouldn't have to deal with them. We thanked him and left.

Now, 15+ years later, I'm not sure what I'd do. Definitely still jump in with the guy beating his daughter. Not sure about the one in the bar.

 

[Sabertooth]

She of course brought up what would have happened if one of them whipped out a gun. I still think I would do it again if the same situation presented itself.

You could just tell them to skin that smoke wagon and see what happens.

I'm so bummed that I'm out of likes.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

Happened twice:

First time was when I was 22 or so. We were at the beach and this guy goes ballistic and just starts smacking his kid around. SHE couldn't have been more than 10. I yelled at him to stop, he looked at me and smacked the girl one more time HARD. I went over told him to try to do that to me and, after his drunken, sloppy punch missed, I beat the piss out of him as my fiance called the cops. Cops came, people around me told them what happened (guy was drunk and started to beat his daughter. took a swing at me when I intervened so I defended myself).

Second time was three years later at a bar. Guy got pissed that 'his girl was looking at other guys' so he taught he a lesson. That lesson apparently was an open handed slap across the face that dropped her. I came up behind him, tapped him on the shoulder, and open hand slapped him across the ear, dropping him. As he struggled to get up, another guy who I didn't know absolutely leveled him. Bouncer came up to us told us he'll give us a head start before he called the cops so we wouldn't have to deal with them. We thanked him and left.

Now, 15+ years later, I'm not sure what I'd do. Definitely still jump in with the guy beating his daughter. Not sure about the one in the bar.

was this before or after you threw a football over them mountains?

 

[Deranged Hermit]

Happened twice:

First time was when I was 22 or so. We were at the beach and this guy goes ballistic and just starts smacking his kid around. SHE couldn't have been more than 10. I yelled at him to stop, he looked at me and smacked the girl one more time HARD. I went over told him to try to do that to me and, after his drunken, sloppy punch missed, I beat the piss out of him as my fiance called the cops. Cops came, people around me told them what happened (guy was drunk and started to beat his daughter. took a swing at me when I intervened so I defended myself).

Second time was three years later at a bar. Guy got pissed that 'his girl was looking at other guys' so he taught he a lesson. That lesson apparently was an open handed slap across the face that dropped her. I came up behind him, tapped him on the shoulder, and open hand slapped him across the ear, dropping him. As he struggled to get up, another guy who I didn't know absolutely leveled him. Bouncer came up to us told us he'll give us a head start before he called the cops so we wouldn't have to deal with them. We thanked him and left.

Now, 15+ years later, I'm not sure what I'd do. Definitely still jump in with the guy beating his daughter. Not sure about the one in the bar.

was this before or after you threw a football over them mountains?

After.

True stories, believe them or don't, I don't care. I grew up in a very rough neighborhood and fought quite a bit, so I could/can take care of myself.

 

[Chadstroma]

On Tuesday I was in the Speedway going over my lottery tickets and realized two guys were yelling at each other. I could not figure out what the heck was going on so I just watched and waited. It went on for a good 10 minutes carried out into the parking lot. I was actually surprised it did not come to blows.

Apparently some kid got carded. Left and came back and made some sort of rude comment to the clerk which a regular heard and stood up for the clerk. They commenced to yell back and forth about who would kick whos rear. After, I joked with the clerk that it was all his fault (after they explained to me what happened).

If it did get to blows, I am sure I would have made some sort of attempt to break it up. My main thing was trying to figure out what was going on and who the people were (and did they have others with them etc). A basic situational awareness before I jump headlong into some fray.

 

[acarey50]

As a dad, if I'm with my wife and kids, their safety comes first always. That usually means getting the #### out of an area where violence has erupted.

yep. But frankly, I have never been in this situation with kids in tow.

I've been in this situation twice.

Fortunately never had to get involved physically. One was at a basketball lcourt with my then 8 year old when a grown man was about to beat on a kid that was maybe 14-15. Long story short, this guy was watching his kid who was maybe 11 or 12 play ball with some other kids who were in the 14-15 range. I guess the younger kid got knocked down which the dad took exception to. Some very colorful language and he threw one of the older kids to the ground before the situation was diffused. I was immediately in protective mode and for this situation was ready to separate them if he started throwing punches on the kid.

The second time was a little more precarious. Walking out of the Rose Bowl afte a UCLA football game with 3-4 other families, so we had about 10 kids age 10 and under with us. In a section outside the stadium where it narrows as you head out to parking, some college kids about 10-12 feet in front of us got into it. Too many people behind us so can't get the kids out that way, and the fight in front of us way too close for comfort. I wasn't going to jump in to break it up, but if it spilled over much closer to us me and a couple other dad's (one is a police officer) were very much ready to make sure they did not get close to the kids. Fortunately other members of this group of kids settled them down, but then once out on the golf course they use for parking, they went at it again. But at that point, we had enough separation that it was time to let the college kids do dumb drunken stuff and fight if they must.

Fortunately neither situation was that bad, but with my kids so close to it, the adrenaline was pumping and I was ready to get into Wolverine beast mode if needed. And I am a self professed pu$$y.

 

[Gary Coal Man]

Seems like a good place to leave this timely article....

June 9, 2015

Victim of brutal Metro attack wants justice

WASHINGTON - A man who was badly beaten after he says he tried to break up a fight on the Metro is sharing his story with FOX 5. Anthony Thomas, 46, was hit over and over early Sunday morning on the Green Line. He says he was trying to stop an altercation between two teenagers and a 54-year-old man. Video of the fight posted to Facebook went viral.

I remember when he hit me the first time, but don't remember much after that, said Thomas.

Thomas says a man started cursing at the teenagers after they put their feet up on the seat behind him. Words turned into a physical fight.

I said, I was like damn, why did you hit those kids?' He came at me. I got kind of smart with him too. He came at me and started beating me for no reason, said Thomas.

The victim's injuries are extensive. It starts with a broken jaw and a fractured cheekbone. His lip needed seven stitches. He is taking painkillers and antibiotics and has surgery scheduled for Friday.

They're going to put a plate in and I'll be drinking through a straw for the whole entire time. I know I'm going to lose a lot of weight, he said.

Thomas says he didn't want to press charges until he saw his face and then the video. Despite the pain, Thomas says he doesn't regret stepping in to help, but now he wants justice.

I think he needs to go to jail for this and I think Metro needs to put some more security on these trains, said Thomas.

The mother of one of the teens involved wants to press charges. Metro says this is an active investigation. They are working in conjunction with the U.S. Attorney's Office at this point. No arrests have been made.

If the dude hasn't been arrested yet, how do they his exact age? So, they have caught him but didn't arrest him? That seems odd.

That was a good question that I didn't have the answer to until now.

After watching the recently released videos of the fights, the authorities knew the assailant's age because he kept saying "I'm a 54 year old man" as he beat people. The first video is of him attacking the teens. The second video is of him attacking the Good Samaritan who tried to defend the teens.

Video 1

Video 2

 

[Sabertooth]

All because a couple kids were being punks.

 

[Rick James]

it's tough to decide when to step in, isn't it? you see one guy getting pummeled by a couple guys and your gut reaction is to help him, but we know absolutely nothing about the situation. maybe the guy totally deserves it.

 

[Otis]

Happened twice:

First time was when I was 22 or so. We were at the beach and this guy goes ballistic and just starts smacking his kid around. SHE couldn't have been more than 10. I yelled at him to stop, he looked at me and smacked the girl one more time HARD. I went over told him to try to do that to me and, after his drunken, sloppy punch missed, I beat the piss out of him as my fiance called the cops. Cops came, people around me told them what happened (guy was drunk and started to beat his daughter. took a swing at me when I intervened so I defended myself).

Second time was three years later at a bar. Guy got pissed that 'his girl was looking at other guys' so he taught he a lesson. That lesson apparently was an open handed slap across the face that dropped her. I came up behind him, tapped him on the shoulder, and open hand slapped him across the ear, dropping him. As he struggled to get up, another guy who I didn't know absolutely leveled him. Bouncer came up to us told us he'll give us a head start before he called the cops so we wouldn't have to deal with them. We thanked him and left.

Now, 15+ years later, I'm not sure what I'd do. Definitely still jump in with the guy beating his daughter. Not sure about the one in the bar.

was this before or after you threw a football over them mountains?

After.True stories, believe them or don't, I don't care. I grew up in a very rough neighborhood and fought quite a bit, so I could/can take care of myself.