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Did you really need to start another thread on this ridiculous topic? Go watch some Cowgirls highlights from the early '90s and stop
All but 2 votes say top 15 or better. That should answer your question.
This question was already thoroughly answered in the 4+ pages of the other thread he started about the same exact topic.
It was not answered in the manner the poster intended... therefore it was never answered.This question was already thoroughly answered in the 4+ pages of the other thread he started about the same exact topic.
Not a bad list, but this is inconsistent. If you have Rivers starting over Favre, you have to have VY and Roethlisberger starting as well.
Is this a case of forcing a square peg into a round hole?It was not answered in the manner the poster intended... therefore it was never answered.This question was already thoroughly answered in the 4+ pages of the other thread he started about the same exact topic.
Rivers, imo, has shown he can throw the ball, move the team, but more importantly score. He can find his weapons, because he has some, but has shown to move the ball more than the other two, again, imo.Roethilsberger is a consistent QB but I never get the sense he can hit the home run when having to take the lead. If Parker goes down I do not think Roeth could lead the team without that insurance behind him. I think Favre has shown to lead the team in some manner without that insurance in the past.Not a bad list, but this is inconsistent. If you have Rivers starting over Favre, you have to have VY and Roethlisberger starting as well.
If your argument is VY or Ben would have never gotten the starting spot over Favre, I suppose I can agree, but why would Rivers?
He's #16
You should go Farve there as well.
I guess I look at the question a bit differently. When I hear where does he rank right now, I don't think about a draft happening, or long term situations. I think about the current season, and that's where it ends. I say Favre's somewhere around QB5-8.It's hard to rank QBs though, since situations are so different. All said and done, this is a pointless argument because we'll never know what Favre would do as a Saint, Eagle, Colt, or Patriot because it won't happen.
I agree with each team you listed and why you did. I took the question to mean if teams wanted a QB and the picks were Favre vs Who They Have Now. Like you said, I think Favre puts up near equal numbers as well on some of those teams or even better... New Orleans would be huge because Favre can make the down field throw... Favre can get Shockey the ball much quicker if in New York... and Favre would make S. Smith more dangerous than he already is. Not to mention Cincinnati with those WR's.I agree that these teams would have a difficult time not picking Favre but I could see these teams going with their starting QB as well for other reasons. And, I dont think, I know Favre is still top 10 either fantasy wise or straight up QB wise in the NFL. I just think other teams would take who they have instead... dumb maybe but with all things considered as well.
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It could just be that I'm not overly impressed with Rivers one year starting, but your arguments seem inconsistent again.Rivers has the benefit of having the best RB by far, the best TE and perhaps the best OL in the NFL. Most QBs would prosper in that situation.Rivers, imo, has shown he can throw the ball, move the team, but more importantly score. He can find his weapons, because he has some, but has shown to move the ball more than the other two, again, imo.Roethilsberger is a consistent QB but I never get the sense he can hit the home run when having to take the lead. If Parker goes down I do not think Roeth could lead the team without that insurance behind him. I think Favre has shown to lead the team in some manner without that insurance in the past.Not a bad list, but this is inconsistent. If you have Rivers starting over Favre, you have to have VY and Roethlisberger starting as well.
If your argument is VY or Ben would have never gotten the starting spot over Favre, I suppose I can agree, but why would Rivers?
He's #16
Young, his experience has something to do with the "Favre over Young" thing but also because Favre still moves the ball. Lets see Young do more of that as well as scoring with his players and not by himself.
He's better than Tony Romo.
Making average WR stellar huh? Again, maybe in the past, but what average WR did he make stellar last year? Driver? Driver is a good WR. Favre DOES force a lot of balls to his wideouts which makes for good stats, but other than that, Favre didn't really make something out of nothing with Driver last year.Then we have the INTs being "part of hs playing style". Who else gets away with that? When your "style" includes throwing lots of picks inside your own red zone and your opponents' red zone, that ain't a good style. It might be OK if he was still throwing 30+ TDs every year to make up for it somehow, but he doesn't do that anymore. In the last two years he has 38 TDs and 47 INTs. Tell me another QB in the "top 10" with numbers like that!I'm honestly not "bashing" the guy. I'm not a hater - I like his personality in general and loved to watch him play in his prime. I just think he's been given a pass on his current inadequacies because of his history.Look at Jake Delhome in 2006 for example. His YPA is better than Favre, almost half as many ints as Favre, but about the same number of TDs. QB rating better than Favre, completion percentage better than Favre, etc. etc. Lead his team to the same record as Favre's team. Yet many folks think he should be benched, while a ton of people feel Favre is a top 10 or top 5 QB.Edit:Was thinking folks are going to be yelling soon about "It's not all about stats, Favre comes through in the clutch!".So I thought I'd throw out there that Favre in 2006 was WORSE in the 2nd half than the 1st half, WORSE at home, WORSE when behind than when in the lead and WORSE in both red zones than in the middle of the field.
Looks like your analysis of Favre being no better than 3 or 4 NFL starters got blown out of the water....easily. Btw, I chose top 15 since it is the correct answer. That's where he STILL ranks.
yeah, but don't you remember that your opinion doesn't count because of your screen name?
Green Bay was 23rd in scoring offense. So even if you totally discount all of the poor decisions that gave opponents points (which I certainly wouldn't), he still wasn't very effective doing what you claim is your primary interest.The team is moving the ball a fair amount, but they AREN'T scoring a lot. One of the main reasons for that is Brett Favre. Turnovers matter.
This is true if you like to draft by last seasons stats alone, discounting the possibility of any progress being made from then 'till now.
One, I'm viewing tis question as not fantasy but NFL ranking. He's still a decent fantasy option in leagues that don't penalize heavily for turnovers, mostly because he forces tons of balls and sometimes the receivers go get them.Two, last season's stats are part of a pretty obvious downward trend. If anything, he was even worse in 2005 with 29 ints and a lower QB rating. If you go back to '04, he looked pretty good, but I think it's far more likely that he looks like the 2005/2006 Favre than the 2003/2004 Favre in 2007.
Who the hell would take Favre over the top pick in the draft?
Because he has yet to take an NFL snap.
I would say yes.Although it would be great to see a QB perform well enough to still be in the league at 41.
So all he needs is an entire offense!
Scary how? I like Jennings plenty and Jones has potential, but Driver is already 32, I doubt he'll improve at this point (although he is good), I just don't see "scary" as an adjective here. "Good" maybe, not "great", certainly not "scary".
We're talking about FANTASY football, right?
Not being able to post for a few days = TimeoutBanned = what you are about to get.
There's no option for #1
