Where does Steven Jackson go? (1 Viewer)

[pizzatyme]

I'd love to see him on the Packers.

I'm guessing he ends up in the Chiefs. You know, so they can kill another RBs production.

Go!

 

[Hartliner]

My link

"Teams such as Arizona, Green Bay, Dallas and Pittsburgh each have dealt with injuries at the running back position and make sense as potential trade partners. Green Bay, in particular, has coveted Jackson in the past.

In the Daryl Richardson thread somebody mentioned how it wouldn't benefit a RB to go to GB because they don't run enough. However, with a banged up WR core you can imagine a great receiving RB would be utilized right? Making S.J. all the more valuable. Tired of him being in STL anyways.

 

[JuniorNB]

My link

"Teams such as Arizona, Green Bay, Dallas and Pittsburgh each have dealt with injuries at the running back position and make sense as potential trade partners. Green Bay, in particular, has coveted Jackson in the past.

In the Daryl Richardson thread somebody mentioned how it wouldn't benefit a RB to go to GB because they don't run enough. However, with a banged up WR core you can imagine a great receiving RB would be utilized right? Making S.J. all the more valuable. Tired of him being in STL anyways.

I think Dallas is very happy with Demarcus Murray. Unless I'm behind on news, isn't he supposed to be back in a week or two?

 

[Slapdash]

Panthers.

 

[sandlotshrink]

Of those teams listed, I would think GB would make the most sense for team/player. I agree Dallas seems happy with Murray. As an SJax owner, I sure would love to see him go to a team where he could have a better chance to win and produce.

 

[FavreAndAwayAnIdiot]

The last thing Green Bay needs is another plodding retread RB who will take 3 weeks to learn the playbook only to get hurt shortly thereafter... The problem in Green Bay isn't the RB, it's the offensive line. This problem won't be fixed by bringing in Jackson.

Now on a selfish side, I'd love to see it happen as a Richardson owner.

 

[SameSongNDance]

My link

"Teams such as Arizona, Green Bay, Dallas and Pittsburgh each have dealt with injuries at the running back position and make sense as potential trade partners. Green Bay, in particular, has coveted Jackson in the past.

In the Daryl Richardson thread somebody mentioned how it wouldn't benefit a RB to go to GB because they don't run enough. However, with a banged up WR core you can imagine a great receiving RB would be utilized right? Making S.J. all the more valuable. Tired of him being in STL anyways.

I guess that person wasn't paying attention to what Benson was doing then? Benson was well on his way to being one of the bigger steals of the draft. After having the toughest early schedule of the year (SF, CHI, SEA) his schedule opened up and he was proving he was a huge PPR asset. Through his first four games, he was on pace to catch 48 balls. Cedric Benson was on pace to catch 48 balls. That doesn't even sound right. I can only imagine what SJax would be able to do running against softer defensive fronts who have to account for Rodgers first and foremost. It would be the first time in his entire career where he wasn't the sole focal point of defensive attention and boy would said defenses pay for that.

The last thing Green Bay needs is another plodding retread RB who will take 3 weeks to learn the playbook only to get hurt shortly thereafter... The problem in Green Bay isn't the RB, it's the offensive line. This problem won't be fixed by bringing in Jackson.

Now on a selfish side, I'd love to see it happen as a Richardson owner.

I can say with confidence that you haven't watched SJax run once this year if you think he's a plodder. Regardless, if a true plodder like Benson was even remotely successful, I can't imagine what SJax would be able to do. Benson can't hold a candle to SJax, but in his defense, not many RBs can.Also, SJax doesn't care about #### OLs. He's dealt with them for a good portion of his career.

 

[godgers12]

My link

"Teams such as Arizona, Green Bay, Dallas and Pittsburgh each have dealt with injuries at the running back position and make sense as potential trade partners. Green Bay, in particular, has coveted Jackson in the past.

In the Daryl Richardson thread somebody mentioned how it wouldn't benefit a RB to go to GB because they don't run enough. However, with a banged up WR core you can imagine a great receiving RB would be utilized right? Making S.J. all the more valuable. Tired of him being in STL anyways.

I guess that person wasn't paying attention to what Benson was doing then? Benson was well on his way to being one of the bigger steals of the draft. After having the toughest early schedule of the year (SF, CHI, SEA) his schedule opened up and he was proving he was a huge PPR asset. Through his first four games, he was on pace to catch 48 balls. Cedric Benson was on pace to catch 48 balls. That doesn't even sound right. I can only imagine what SJax would be able to do running against softer defensive fronts who have to account for Rodgers first and foremost. It would be the first time in his entire career where he wasn't the sole focal point of defensive attention and boy would said defenses pay for that.

The last thing Green Bay needs is another plodding retread RB who will take 3 weeks to learn the playbook only to get hurt shortly thereafter... The problem in Green Bay isn't the RB, it's the offensive line. This problem won't be fixed by bringing in Jackson.

Now on a selfish side, I'd love to see it happen as a Richardson owner.

I can say with confidence that you haven't watched SJax run once this year if you think he's a plodder. Regardless, if a true plodder like Benson was even remotely successful, I can't imagine what SJax would be able to do. Benson can't hold a candle to SJax, but in his defense, not many RBs can.Also, SJax doesn't care about #### OLs. He's dealt with them for a good portion of his career.

 

[Warhogs]

My prediction....he stays where he is at for 2012.

I see no reason to think a bunch of players will be switching teams before the trade deadline.

 

[DesmondBishop]

My prediction....he stays where he is at for 2012.I see no reason to think a bunch of players will be switching teams before the trade deadline.

Sadly, this is probably right. I would love to see him on GB, Sjax is definitely not a plodder, he runs hard and is an excellent receiver and blocker.

 

[steelwind]

I also believe he stays in Stl. Otherwise you are looking at giving up a 3rd round pick and spending 5 million for 8 games (6 games since it will take 2 games for him to pickup a new offense). I don't care if he's a vet. Every team has their own coded words for play calling. It takes several games for a new player to learn it.

 

[MNTom]

I also believe he stays in Stl. Otherwise you are looking at giving up a 3rd round pick and spending 5 million for 8 games (6 games since it will take 2 games for him to pickup a new offense). I don't care if he's a vet. Every team has their own coded words for play calling. It takes several games for a new player to learn it.

Green Bay does have a week 10 bye so that would mean an extra week to learn the offense.

 

[steelwind]

I also believe he stays in Stl. Otherwise you are looking at giving up a 3rd round pick and spending 5 million for 8 games (6 games since it will take 2 games for him to pickup a new offense). I don't care if he's a vet. Every team has their own coded words for play calling. It takes several games for a new player to learn it.

Green Bay does have a week 10 bye so that would mean an extra week to learn the offense.

LOL I get it. You are a hopeful Sjax owner and I know his situation is brutal in Stl. But it's not gonna happen. If you are a GM, would you shell out 5 million dollars for an 8 game rental plus a 3rd round draft pick? And your team is built to pass, not run. And you are already winning.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

I agree the most likely result is he stays in StL.

But the idea of him in Green Bay is terrific, right now he is better than Benson and Green by a mile (yes). But GB doesn't trade high draft picks or even picks at all.

The Rams won't trade him inside the division (so no to the Cards).

How about Detroit? They have:

- Fading playoff aspirations

- A passing game that needs a pass catching, versatile RB.

- Draft picks and a willingness to trade them

- A need to win this year.

 

[MNTom]

I also believe he stays in Stl. Otherwise you are looking at giving up a 3rd round pick and spending 5 million for 8 games (6 games since it will take 2 games for him to pickup a new offense). I don't care if he's a vet. Every team has their own coded words for play calling. It takes several games for a new player to learn it.

Green Bay does have a week 10 bye so that would mean an extra week to learn the offense.

LOL I get it. You are a hopeful Sjax owner and I know his situation is brutal in Stl. But it's not gonna happen. If you are a GM, would you shell out 5 million dollars for an 8 game rental plus a 3rd round draft pick? And your team is built to pass, not run. And you are already winning.

According to ESPN, the salary to absorb this year is 3 million. I know St. Louis wants a 3rd round pick but I think they would settle for less since he is gone at the end of the season anyway.

 

[SameSongNDance]

I also believe he stays in Stl. Otherwise you are looking at giving up a 3rd round pick and spending 5 million for 8 games (6 games since it will take 2 games for him to pickup a new offense). I don't care if he's a vet. Every team has their own coded words for play calling. It takes several games for a new player to learn it.

Still, if any position is "trade friendly" when it comes to a learning curve, it's obviously the RB position. Secondly, what price would you put on increasing your odds of winning the SB?Against STL, when a defender is starring into the backfield, looking at Bradford and SJax, he's probably thinking "Okay, let's see if Bradford can beat us."Against GB, when a defender is starring into the backfield, looking at Rodgers and Green, he's probably thinking "Okay, lets see if Green can beat us."What does said defender do when he sees Aaron Rodgers with SJax lined up next to him? Nothing. His head explodes.

 

[SWC]

i almost hope he does not go to green bay because if he does this old boy will proably have a gripper and it will be the end of me right there brohans but seriously i hope that he does that would be awesome

 

[Oscar]

As an S-Jax and Richardson owner, I would gladly welcome a trade to GB, Detroit or Arizona. Please make it happen Rams!

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

I also believe he stays in Stl. Otherwise you are looking at giving up a 3rd round pick and spending 5 million for 8 games (6 games since it will take 2 games for him to pickup a new offense). I don't care if he's a vet. Every team has their own coded words for play calling. It takes several games for a new player to learn it.

Green Bay does have a week 10 bye so that would mean an extra week to learn the offense.

LOL I get it. You are a hopeful Sjax owner and I know his situation is brutal in Stl. But it's not gonna happen. If you are a GM, would you shell out 5 million dollars for an 8 game rental plus a 3rd round draft pick? And your team is built to pass, not run. And you are already winning.

According to ESPN, the salary to absorb this year is 3 million. I know St. Louis wants a 3rd round pick but I think they would settle for less since he is gone at the end of the season anyway.

yeah, but they could get a comp pick when he walks, which is why they want a third.I think he would absolutely beast it in gb.

 

[Inspiration]

I also believe he stays in Stl. Otherwise you are looking at giving up a 3rd round pick and spending 5 million for 8 games (6 games since it will take 2 games for him to pickup a new offense). I don't care if he's a vet. Every team has their own coded words for play calling. It takes several games for a new player to learn it.

Green Bay does have a week 10 bye so that would mean an extra week to learn the offense.

LOL I get it. You are a hopeful Sjax owner and I know his situation is brutal in Stl. But it's not gonna happen. If you are a GM, would you shell out 5 million dollars for an 8 game rental plus a 3rd round draft pick? And your team is built to pass, not run. And you are already winning.

According to ESPN, the salary to absorb this year is 3 million. I know St. Louis wants a 3rd round pick but I think they would settle for less since he is gone at the end of the season anyway.

yeah, but they could get a comp pick when he walks, which is why they want a third.I think he would absolutely beast it in gb.

A 30 year old Steven Jackson isn't going to command a contract that would earn the Rams a 3rd round compensatory pick. Plus, compensatory picks are hardly guaranteed since a team has to lose more UFAs than they sign.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

I also believe he stays in Stl. Otherwise you are looking at giving up a 3rd round pick and spending 5 million for 8 games (6 games since it will take 2 games for him to pickup a new offense). I don't care if he's a vet. Every team has their own coded words for play calling. It takes several games for a new player to learn it.

Green Bay does have a week 10 bye so that would mean an extra week to learn the offense.

LOL I get it. You are a hopeful Sjax owner and I know his situation is brutal in Stl. But it's not gonna happen. If you are a GM, would you shell out 5 million dollars for an 8 game rental plus a 3rd round draft pick? And your team is built to pass, not run. And you are already winning.

According to ESPN, the salary to absorb this year is 3 million. I know St. Louis wants a 3rd round pick but I think they would settle for less since he is gone at the end of the season anyway.

yeah, but they could get a comp pick when he walks, which is why they want a third.I think he would absolutely beast it in gb.

A 30 year old Steven Jackson isn't going to command a contract that would earn the Rams a 3rd round compensatory pick. Plus, compensatory picks are hardly guaranteed since a team has to lose more UFAs than they sign.

that's true that it isn't a guarantee, but it's certainly a possibility -- that's why I said could....the assumption that they get nothing is probably a poor assumption.

 

[pizzatyme]

Detroit is another excellent destination. However, I'm guessing they like the Leshour/Bell combo. If they were smart, they'd get SJax there to coach the kids up.

If GB AND Detroit hop in, maybe there is a small bidding war to the benefit of Stl.

 

[thatguythere]

IMO if the Lions were worried about upgrading the RB postion they would have done something in the offseason. If they go after Jackson at this point i'd be very surprised.

Grinds me to no end. Mayhew still seems to think he is going to win games with number 2 and 3 RB's and CB's. Maybe he is will finally figure out that if they had a running back other teams actually had to gameplan for....then Calvin would be open more often.

 

[MNTom]

I also believe he stays in Stl. Otherwise you are looking at giving up a 3rd round pick and spending 5 million for 8 games (6 games since it will take 2 games for him to pickup a new offense). I don't care if he's a vet. Every team has their own coded words for play calling. It takes several games for a new player to learn it.

Green Bay does have a week 10 bye so that would mean an extra week to learn the offense.

LOL I get it. You are a hopeful Sjax owner and I know his situation is brutal in Stl. But it's not gonna happen. If you are a GM, would you shell out 5 million dollars for an 8 game rental plus a 3rd round draft pick? And your team is built to pass, not run. And you are already winning.

According to ESPN, the salary to absorb this year is 3 million. I know St. Louis wants a 3rd round pick but I think they would settle for less since he is gone at the end of the season anyway.

yeah, but they could get a comp pick when he walks, which is why they want a third.I think he would absolutely beast it in gb.

A 30 year old Steven Jackson isn't going to command a contract that would earn the Rams a 3rd round compensatory pick. Plus, compensatory picks are hardly guaranteed since a team has to lose more UFAs than they sign.

The comp pick would also be in 2014 not 2013 so they would have to wait an additional year for a comp pick.

 

[Team ROFLCOPTERS]

I also believe he stays in Stl. Otherwise you are looking at giving up a 3rd round pick and spending 5 million for 8 games (6 games since it will take 2 games for him to pickup a new offense). I don't care if he's a vet. Every team has their own coded words for play calling. It takes several games for a new player to learn it.

He would be owed 3.7 million. I don't believe anyone would give a 3rd round pick mid season. Jerome Bettis is the best comp and he netted a 4th rounder at the beginning of the season. RB's have less value today.

 

[SWC]

the gang on 1250 here was talking about him or deangelos williams but his contract is huge compared to steven jackson on the other hand if benson comes back him and wiliams would be a nice ying and yang since williams is good catching the ball out of the backfield but that nubmer on williams is not one that tt the wizard will ever do so it is a non starter and in any event i see far to few trick plays with those guys back there which is disappointing to me on a personal level but i think jackson is a type of guy tt might bring in for the rest of the year if it would put them over the hump so take that to the bank broans

 

[MNTom]

the gang on 1250 here was talking about him or deangelos williams but his contract is huge compared to steven jackson on the other hand if benson comes back him and wiliams would be a nice ying and yang since williams is good catching the ball out of the backfield but that nubmer on williams is not one that tt the wizard will ever do so it is a non starter and in any event i see far to few trick plays with those guys back there which is disappointing to me on a personal level but i think jackson is a type of guy tt might bring in for the rest of the year if it would put them over the hump so take that to the bank broans

That is quite the run on sentence without punctuation

 

[OU#1]

I think Dallas is very happy with Demarcus Murray. Unless I'm behind on news, isn't he supposed to be back in a week or two?

Demarcus Murray? Tell me more about this guy.

 

[pizzatyme]

I think Dallas is very happy with Demarcus Murray. Unless I'm behind on news, isn't he supposed to be back in a week or two?

Demarcus Murray? Tell me more about this guy.

 

[SameSongNDance]

Packers are reportedly interested in acquiring SJax.

Seems like mostly conjecture of course. It makes me feel like the SP is just far ahead of the curve.

 

[cstu]

I also believe he stays in Stl. Otherwise you are looking at giving up a 3rd round pick and spending 5 million for 8 games (6 games since it will take 2 games for him to pickup a new offense). I don't care if he's a vet. Every team has their own coded words for play calling. It takes several games for a new player to learn it.

He would be owed 3.7 million. I don't believe anyone would give a 3rd round pick mid season. Jerome Bettis is the best comp and he netted a 4th rounder at the beginning of the season. RB's have less value today.

The Packers are a SB contender and RB is easily the worst area on the team. I also think a 3rd is too much but a 4th to get an impact player to make another run at a SB? Absolutely worth it.

 

[meyerj31]

Packers are reportedly interested in acquiring SJax.

Seems like mostly conjecture of course. It makes me feel like the SP is just far ahead of the curve.

I don't see this happening. That said, $3M this year and a 7th round pick would not be a bad deal at all for the Packers. They barely have the room on the cap left this year (was $5.6M during the summer and the only hits to this year should have been the Benson signing?). Make SJax play it out and sign back whichever of Benson or SJax looks better during the off-season.But given how successful Teddy has been in the draft, and the fact that it would deplete a round of ammo for next year's draft, I think he values that 7th round pick a lot higher than we perceive its' value.

 

[meyerj31]

I also believe he stays in Stl. Otherwise you are looking at giving up a 3rd round pick and spending 5 million for 8 games (6 games since it will take 2 games for him to pickup a new offense). I don't care if he's a vet. Every team has their own coded words for play calling. It takes several games for a new player to learn it.

He would be owed 3.7 million. I don't believe anyone would give a 3rd round pick mid season. Jerome Bettis is the best comp and he netted a 4th rounder at the beginning of the season. RB's have less value today.

The Packers are a SB contender and RB is easily the worst area on the team. I also think a 3rd is too much but a 4th to get an impact player to make another run at a SB? Absolutely worth it.

There is absolutely zero chance they give up a 4th round pick AND pay SJax $3M this year. Look at what the Pack does with 4th round picks. They drafted and locked up a guy like McMillian for 4 years paying him virtually nothing on the rookie scale. Maybe $3M over the course of those four years, and they have a young defensive starter that whole time. The value is immensely higher using that pick than trading for a near-depleted RB like Jackson when they'll get only a half-season of guaranteed production out of him, and most of which he won't know the offense very well. When Teddy starts making moves like that it's time to put him out to pasture.

 

[cstu]

I also believe he stays in Stl. Otherwise you are looking at giving up a 3rd round pick and spending 5 million for 8 games (6 games since it will take 2 games for him to pickup a new offense). I don't care if he's a vet. Every team has their own coded words for play calling. It takes several games for a new player to learn it.

He would be owed 3.7 million. I don't believe anyone would give a 3rd round pick mid season. Jerome Bettis is the best comp and he netted a 4th rounder at the beginning of the season. RB's have less value today.

The Packers are a SB contender and RB is easily the worst area on the team. I also think a 3rd is too much but a 4th to get an impact player to make another run at a SB? Absolutely worth it.

There is absolutely zero chance they give up a 4th round pick AND pay SJax $3M this year. Look at what the Pack does with 4th round picks. They drafted and locked up a guy like McMillian for 4 years paying him virtually nothing on the rookie scale. Maybe $3M over the course of those four years, and they have a young defensive starter that whole time. The value is immensely higher using that pick than trading for a near-depleted RB like Jackson when they'll get only a half-season of guaranteed production out of him, and most of which he won't know the offense very well.

The money is a non-issue - they are under the cap and it's a small price to pay for a better chance at a SB. I've taken a look at the Packers 4th round picks and there's no impact players. McMillian looks like he could be ok but the best 4th round pick in the last decade was Josh Sitton, who was moved from tackle to guard.

You're sorely mistaken if you think Alex Green or James Starks are going to help get the Pack to the SB this year.

 

[MIMN]

Packers are reportedly interested in acquiring SJax.

Seems like mostly conjecture of course. It makes me feel like the SP is just far ahead of the curve.

I'm surprised. I would only expect this if they thought Benson might not make it back for the playoffs. Even then GB seems to think they can win with only Rodgers on the field. The crumbling receiving corps must being worrying them.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

I also believe he stays in Stl. Otherwise you are looking at giving up a 3rd round pick and spending 5 million for 8 games (6 games since it will take 2 games for him to pickup a new offense). I don't care if he's a vet. Every team has their own coded words for play calling. It takes several games for a new player to learn it.

He would be owed 3.7 million. I don't believe anyone would give a 3rd round pick mid season. Jerome Bettis is the best comp and he netted a 4th rounder at the beginning of the season. RB's have less value today.

The Packers are a SB contender and RB is easily the worst area on the team. I also think a 3rd is too much but a 4th to get an impact player to make another run at a SB? Absolutely worth it.

There is absolutely zero chance they give up a 4th round pick AND pay SJax $3M this year. Look at what the Pack does with 4th round picks. They drafted and locked up a guy like McMillian for 4 years paying him virtually nothing on the rookie scale. Maybe $3M over the course of those four years, and they have a young defensive starter that whole time. The value is immensely higher using that pick than trading for a near-depleted RB like Jackson when they'll get only a half-season of guaranteed production out of him, and most of which he won't know the offense very well. When Teddy starts making moves like that it's time to put him out to pasture.

Can't the Pack and Rams agree to divvy up the salary however they want? I don't know the answer, that's a question.Also, if the Pack really thought Jax was near-depleted they would not be trading for him. Wouldn't you say he can run, catch, and block better than Green & Starks, even now? And then there's the game-scheming element.People should not be dropping Daryl Richardson tonight I guess at any rate....

 

[Ray_T]

I also believe he stays in Stl. Otherwise you are looking at giving up a 3rd round pick and spending 5 million for 8 games (6 games since it will take 2 games for him to pickup a new offense). I don't care if he's a vet. Every team has their own coded words for play calling. It takes several games for a new player to learn it.

He would be owed 3.7 million. I don't believe anyone would give a 3rd round pick mid season. Jerome Bettis is the best comp and he netted a 4th rounder at the beginning of the season. RB's have less value today.

The Packers are a SB contender and RB is easily the worst area on the team. I also think a 3rd is too much but a 4th to get an impact player to make another run at a SB? Absolutely worth it.

I agree.if I were a GM and I thought I could get the player that puts my team over the top(even if it's just a 1 year contract), I'd pay even more than a third, I'd throw em a 2nd to make sure it happened.

 

[meyerj31]

I also believe he stays in Stl. Otherwise you are looking at giving up a 3rd round pick and spending 5 million for 8 games (6 games since it will take 2 games for him to pickup a new offense). I don't care if he's a vet. Every team has their own coded words for play calling. It takes several games for a new player to learn it.

He would be owed 3.7 million. I don't believe anyone would give a 3rd round pick mid season. Jerome Bettis is the best comp and he netted a 4th rounder at the beginning of the season. RB's have less value today.

The Packers are a SB contender and RB is easily the worst area on the team. I also think a 3rd is too much but a 4th to get an impact player to make another run at a SB? Absolutely worth it.

There is absolutely zero chance they give up a 4th round pick AND pay SJax $3M this year. Look at what the Pack does with 4th round picks. They drafted and locked up a guy like McMillian for 4 years paying him virtually nothing on the rookie scale. Maybe $3M over the course of those four years, and they have a young defensive starter that whole time. The value is immensely higher using that pick than trading for a near-depleted RB like Jackson when they'll get only a half-season of guaranteed production out of him, and most of which he won't know the offense very well.

The money is a non-issue - they are under the cap and it's a small price to pay for a better chance at a SB. I've taken a look at the Packers 4th round picks and there's no impact players. McMillian looks like he could be ok but the best 4th round pick in the last decade was Josh Sitton, who was moved from tackle to guard.

You're sorely mistaken if you think Alex Green or James Starks are going to help get the Pack to the SB this year.

Fans grossly misunderstand the value of mid-round picks, and the draft-and-develop philosophy in general. Having those picks allows maneuverability in the draft to pick players where they fit on the board. Not trading for Lynch allowed us to have the picks necessary to get players like DJ Smith low in the draft, as well as saving our cap structure and allowing that money to be given as extensions to our core players like Jordy Nelson. Prior to DJ's injury he was the starting ILB and doing a heck of a job at it.I'd rather have an extension for Jordy AND a super cheap rookie-scale salary cap hit for a starting ILB than an aging back, even if Lynch can still play. This situation is no different. I will delete my account and never post again if Teddy gives up a 4th and pays $3M for a half-season of SJax. There's just no way that happens. Draft and develop teams don't mortgage their future for short-term gain. Teams with coaches/GMs under fire like Oakland last year with that ridiculous Palmer trade make those kind of cap moves, and it virtually never works out long-term. The Packers have the luxury of an incredible fan base that support the team no matter what, so the management can make the best decisions long-term for the team every year, and guess what? Every year, the Packers are a contender.

 

[Inspiration]

I also believe he stays in Stl. Otherwise you are looking at giving up a 3rd round pick and spending 5 million for 8 games (6 games since it will take 2 games for him to pickup a new offense). I don't care if he's a vet. Every team has their own coded words for play calling. It takes several games for a new player to learn it.

He would be owed 3.7 million. I don't believe anyone would give a 3rd round pick mid season. Jerome Bettis is the best comp and he netted a 4th rounder at the beginning of the season. RB's have less value today.

The Packers are a SB contender and RB is easily the worst area on the team. I also think a 3rd is too much but a 4th to get an impact player to make another run at a SB? Absolutely worth it.

There is absolutely zero chance they give up a 4th round pick AND pay SJax $3M this year. Look at what the Pack does with 4th round picks. They drafted and locked up a guy like McMillian for 4 years paying him virtually nothing on the rookie scale. Maybe $3M over the course of those four years, and they have a young defensive starter that whole time. The value is immensely higher using that pick than trading for a near-depleted RB like Jackson when they'll get only a half-season of guaranteed production out of him, and most of which he won't know the offense very well.

The money is a non-issue - they are under the cap and it's a small price to pay for a better chance at a SB.

The money is absolutely an issue. I'd be very confident stating that cash drives far more decisions in the NFL than cap number.

 

[SameSongNDance]

I also believe he stays in Stl. Otherwise you are looking at giving up a 3rd round pick and spending 5 million for 8 games (6 games since it will take 2 games for him to pickup a new offense). I don't care if he's a vet. Every team has their own coded words for play calling. It takes several games for a new player to learn it.

He would be owed 3.7 million. I don't believe anyone would give a 3rd round pick mid season. Jerome Bettis is the best comp and he netted a 4th rounder at the beginning of the season. RB's have less value today.

The Packers are a SB contender and RB is easily the worst area on the team. I also think a 3rd is too much but a 4th to get an impact player to make another run at a SB? Absolutely worth it.

There is absolutely zero chance they give up a 4th round pick AND pay SJax $3M this year. Look at what the Pack does with 4th round picks. They drafted and locked up a guy like McMillian for 4 years paying him virtually nothing on the rookie scale. Maybe $3M over the course of those four years, and they have a young defensive starter that whole time. The value is immensely higher using that pick than trading for a near-depleted RB like Jackson when they'll get only a half-season of guaranteed production out of him, and most of which he won't know the offense very well. When Teddy starts making moves like that it's time to put him out to pasture.

Can't the Pack and Rams agree to divvy up the salary however they want? I don't know the answer, that's a question.Also, if the Pack really thought Jax was near-depleted they would not be trading for him. Wouldn't you say he can run, catch, and block better than Green & Starks, even now? And then there's the game-scheming element.

People should not be dropping Daryl Richardson tonight I guess at any rate....

At 30 years old, SJax is still leagues better than Starks, Green and Benson put together. SJax is arguably one of the most talented RBs to ever play the game. How do you put a price on that exactly?

 

[meyerj31]

There is absolutely zero chance they give up a 4th round pick AND pay SJax $3M this year. Look at what the Pack does with 4th round picks. They drafted and locked up a guy like McMillian for 4 years paying him virtually nothing on the rookie scale. Maybe $3M over the course of those four years, and they have a young defensive starter that whole time. The value is immensely higher using that pick than trading for a near-depleted RB like Jackson when they'll get only a half-season of guaranteed production out of him, and most of which he won't know the offense very well.

The money is a non-issue - they are under the cap and it's a small price to pay for a better chance at a SB.

The money is absolutely an issue.

This is also true. $3M for SJax would deplete almost all the cap space remaining for 2012. If another injury were to happen to anyone, and they moved someone from the practice squad to active roster, the Packers would not have any room to sign additional players to the practice squad. Sounds like a non-issue to fans (who cares about practice squad players in the middle of a super bowl run, amirite?), but I assure you GMs don't think that way, especially guys like Teddy.(They'd also have no cap space to sign any FAs, not just practice squad players.)

 

[Shutout]

Maybe the Jets will put in a 4th for him.

They seem like the type of team that is just desperate enough to do something.

In all "makes sense" theory though, the FALCONS are the team that should be burning that phone line up. A few bucks, a draft pick and you have an very scary dilemma when playing the Falcons; a RB that can still run and can catch, on the same field with Roddy, Gonzo, and Julio.

 

[Mr. Fusion]

If he goes to Green Bay, it isn't about what he can do for them this week or next. It's all about what he can do for them in the playoffs. I think it makes sense for them, they need a solid running back if they hope to advance in the playoffs. He isn't a top 5 running back anymore but he is light years ahead of what they have now in terms of running, receiving, and pass protection.

 

[Stinkin Ref]

I also believe he stays in Stl. Otherwise you are looking at giving up a 3rd round pick and spending 5 million for 8 games (6 games since it will take 2 games for him to pickup a new offense). I don't care if he's a vet. Every team has their own coded words for play calling. It takes several games for a new player to learn it.

Green Bay does have a week 10 bye so that would mean an extra week to learn the offense.

LOL I get it. You are a hopeful Sjax owner and I know his situation is brutal in Stl. But it's not gonna happen. If you are a GM, would you shell out 5 million dollars for an 8 game rental plus a 3rd round draft pick? And your team is built to pass, not run. And you are already winning.

GB would be thinking this would help add about 2-3 more games to their season....

 

[DocHolliday]

If he goes to Green Bay, it isn't about what he can do for them this week or next. It's all about what he can do for them in the playoffs. I think it makes sense for them, they need a solid running back if they hope to advance in the playoffs. He isn't a top 5 running back anymore but he is light years ahead of what they have now in terms of running, receiving, and pass protection.

SJax solves the RB problem in GB this year and next if GB wants. And, GB has to figure that SJax would want to stick around GB and have a chance of winning a SB even if his role is reduced over the next couple of years. SJax has earned his money. He has piled up nice stats in STL. Seems he would want to just win before he has to retire.

 

[Sinn Fein]

If we are talking trade, he goes nowhere.

If we are talking as a FA at the end of the season - he'll have a few teams kick the tires, but I would not be surprised to see him back in St. Louis with a reduced contract. There just is not a huge market for aged RBs in the NFL.

 

[Sinn Fein]

I also believe he stays in Stl. Otherwise you are looking at giving up a 3rd round pick and spending 5 million for 8 games (6 games since it will take 2 games for him to pickup a new offense). I don't care if he's a vet. Every team has their own coded words for play calling. It takes several games for a new player to learn it.

He would be owed 3.7 million. I don't believe anyone would give a 3rd round pick mid season. Jerome Bettis is the best comp and he netted a 4th rounder at the beginning of the season. RB's have less value today.

The Packers are a SB contender and RB is easily the worst area on the team. I also think a 3rd is too much but a 4th to get an impact player to make another run at a SB? Absolutely worth it.

There is absolutely zero chance they give up a 4th round pick AND pay SJax $3M this year. Look at what the Pack does with 4th round picks. They drafted and locked up a guy like McMillian for 4 years paying him virtually nothing on the rookie scale. Maybe $3M over the course of those four years, and they have a young defensive starter that whole time. The value is immensely higher using that pick than trading for a near-depleted RB like Jackson when they'll get only a half-season of guaranteed production out of him, and most of which he won't know the offense very well. When Teddy starts making moves like that it's time to put him out to pasture.

Can't the Pack and Rams agree to divvy up the salary however they want? I don't know the answer, that's a question.Also, if the Pack really thought Jax was near-depleted they would not be trading for him. Wouldn't you say he can run, catch, and block better than Green & Starks, even now? And then there's the game-scheming element.

People should not be dropping Daryl Richardson tonight I guess at any rate....

At 30 years old, SJax is still leagues better than Starks, Green and Benson put together. SJax is arguably one of the most talented RBs to ever play the game. How do you put a price on that exactly?

You don't. Which is why he will be in St. Louis after the trade deadline.

 

[steelwind]

I also believe he stays in Stl. Otherwise you are looking at giving up a 3rd round pick and spending 5 million for 8 games (6 games since it will take 2 games for him to pickup a new offense). I don't care if he's a vet. Every team has their own coded words for play calling. It takes several games for a new player to learn it.

Green Bay does have a week 10 bye so that would mean an extra week to learn the offense.

LOL I get it. You are a hopeful Sjax owner and I know his situation is brutal in Stl. But it's not gonna happen. If you are a GM, would you shell out 5 million dollars for an 8 game rental plus a 3rd round draft pick? And your team is built to pass, not run. And you are already winning.

GB would be thinking this would help add about 2-3 more games to their season....

Really? Let's look at GB's remaining schedule:Week9: ARI

Week 10: Bye

Week 11: @Det

Week 12: @NYG

Week 13: Minn

Week 14: Det

Week 15: @Chi

Week 16: Ten

Week 17: @Minn

Weeks 9, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 17 are all weak defenses against the pass. What makes you think Coach will take the ball out of Rodger's hands in those situations? Maybe week 15 @Chi is their toughest matchup. GB does not have need nor will they pay 3 million for a 8 game rental RB where they will surely throw in every game.

 

[SameSongNDance]

I also believe he stays in Stl. Otherwise you are looking at giving up a 3rd round pick and spending 5 million for 8 games (6 games since it will take 2 games for him to pickup a new offense). I don't care if he's a vet. Every team has their own coded words for play calling. It takes several games for a new player to learn it.

Green Bay does have a week 10 bye so that would mean an extra week to learn the offense.

LOL I get it. You are a hopeful Sjax owner and I know his situation is brutal in Stl. But it's not gonna happen. If you are a GM, would you shell out 5 million dollars for an 8 game rental plus a 3rd round draft pick? And your team is built to pass, not run. And you are already winning.

GB would be thinking this would help add about 2-3 more games to their season....

Really? Let's look at GB's remaining schedule:Week9: ARI

Week 10: Bye

Week 11: @Det

Week 12: @NYG

Week 13: Minn

Week 14: Det

Week 15: @Chi

Week 16: Ten

Week 17: @Minn

Weeks 9, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 17 are all weak defenses against the pass. What makes you think Coach will take the ball out of Rodger's hands in those situations? Maybe week 15 @Chi is their toughest matchup. GB does not have need nor will they pay 3 million for a 8 game rental RB where they will surely throw in every game.

What about post-season when GB has to face the cream that rose to the top? They will not win a SB with Green. Someone will absolutely sell out and dare Green to beat them, which IMO, he cannot. Rodgers is far from invincible. He was exposed earlier in the season and even last week when he was missing a weapon. I posted it in the Green thread, but something eventually has to give. They are winning now but it isn't sustainable with no legitimate run game. Whether is be Green picking it up, Starks resurrecting his career, White surprising us or SJax signing, something has to change if they want to make it to and win a SB. An Sjax signing gives them by and far the best odds of doing so.

 

[Inspiration]

I also believe he stays in Stl. Otherwise you are looking at giving up a 3rd round pick and spending 5 million for 8 games (6 games since it will take 2 games for him to pickup a new offense). I don't care if he's a vet. Every team has their own coded words for play calling. It takes several games for a new player to learn it.

Green Bay does have a week 10 bye so that would mean an extra week to learn the offense.

LOL I get it. You are a hopeful Sjax owner and I know his situation is brutal in Stl. But it's not gonna happen. If you are a GM, would you shell out 5 million dollars for an 8 game rental plus a 3rd round draft pick? And your team is built to pass, not run. And you are already winning.

GB would be thinking this would help add about 2-3 more games to their season....

Really? Let's look at GB's remaining schedule:Week9: ARI

Week 10: Bye

Week 11: @Det

Week 12: @NYG

Week 13: Minn

Week 14: Det

Week 15: @Chi

Week 16: Ten

Week 17: @Minn

Weeks 9, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 17 are all weak defenses against the pass. What makes you think Coach will take the ball out of Rodger's hands in those situations? Maybe week 15 @Chi is their toughest matchup. GB does not have need nor will they pay 3 million for a 8 game rental RB where they will surely throw in every game.

What about post-season when GB has to face the cream that rose to the top? They will not win a SB with Green. Someone will absolutely sell out and dare Green to beat them, which IMO, he cannot. Rodgers is far from invincible. He was exposed earlier in the season and even last week when he was missing a weapon. I posted it in the Green thread, but something eventually has to give. They are winning now but it isn't sustainable with no legitimate run game. Whether is be Green picking it up, Starks resurrecting his career, White surprising us or SJax signing, something has to change if they want to make it to and win a SB. An Sjax signing gives them by and far the best odds of doing so.

Why not? They won a Super Bowl with James Starks and Brandon Jackson at RB (a year in which they declined to trade for a RB after an injury to their starter).