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Where should my wife and I move? (1 Viewer)

Future home of Zen and MrsZen?

  • Cincinnati, OH

    Votes: 10 10.4%

  • San Diego, CA

    Votes: 38 39.6%

  • St. Louis, MO

    Votes: 4 4.2%

  • Stateline, NV (Lake Tahoe)

    Votes: 23 24.0%

  • Tampa/St. Petersburg, FL

    Votes: 12 12.5%

  • Other (please explain)

    Votes: 9 9.4%
  • Total voters
    96
jvdesigns2002 said:
I voted San Diego.  Great climate, fun community, very outdoor friendly, some casinos nearby, high cost of living--but also tends to be an area where the real estate maintains or improves value--so thats also good.   

As you can tell by my profile--I'm biased--but Las Vegas has treated me very well in regards to my real estate investments.  First of all--you could get an absolutely beautiful single family home in Vegas for half of your housing budget.  You could also get an amazing condo for 1/4-1/3 of your budget.  Amazing poker opportunities--and plenty of golf.  Heck--with the money you save on housing--you could join a country club.   If you do move there--get solar panels installed on your house--and the 3-4 months of hard weather per year gets far easier to deal with.  Great tax ramifications for living in Nevada as well.   The city is also vastly under rated for its outdoor activities.  Red Rock canyon is filled with beautiful hiking trails as is Mt Charleston.   If you picked a home in the Summerlin area--Red Rock will essentially be right at the tips of your fingers--so I'd even specify my recommendation further to being Summerlin. It's a great area.  
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Agree with everything above here.  Summerlin is beautiful and I'd totally live there. Great golf (you're near Paiute!), all the gambling you want, and great food. 

Can also say the same thing for the Phoenix area.  But, heck, in both, you can play golf with me!

 
Honestly dude you're hitting on a lot of my high points and things I looked for.  For background I grew up in eastern PA and then spent about a decade in Minnesota.  Moved to the southwest 8 years ago and enjoy so much more. Play a ton of golf and a boatload of poker in the Vegas/Laughlin area (just got burned out on it).  Love the ability to play golf every day of the year and the cost of living is super reasonable.  For me, I couldn't see living anywhere else other than where I live now (Lake Havasu City).  Ideally, I'm hoping to wind up in San Diego (but will probably never have the financial ability), Phoenix area, Vegas, Tucson, Tahoe, Orange County area, or Sedona/Cottonwood/Camp Verde area. 

 
If humidity is a problem stay away from anywhere in the southeast.  I'm already sweating my a off down here.

 
Man, eff Florida.  For all the reasons you already know. Yeah, they have beaches.  Their beaches suck.  

And San Diego isn't going to get less expensive, or start lowering taxes anytime soon.  

 
My mom lives in Vegas. I like visiting but I'm not sure I'd want to live there, and it's a hard no from my wife's perspective. 

We considered the Phoenix area but we might be beaten down after 17 years of Dallas summers to go anywhere that routinely gets that hot. I know the Midwest will feel like it with the humidity but we'd like to avoid triple-digit summers if possible.

 
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i chose other and i pick kenosha wisconsin it is known at the san diego and stateline nevada of wisconsin it even says that on the sign which reads welcome to kenosha the san diego and stateline nevada of wisconsin and if you like weezer you will like kenosha to because in the video for buddy holly they say and now welcome kenoshas own weezer and then they rock the hell out of it so bam another riddle solved by the old swcer and that my moving friend you can take to the bank 

 
ZenMaster said:
I'm morally opposed to anywhere in Michigan.  ;)

O-H!
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You may may want to consider the only county in the state where Mich and Mich St are bottom-feeders - Berrien County.  We are in the very bottom corner of the state on Lake Mich.  75 min from downtown Chicago, 5 hours from St Louis and Cincy.  Beaches up and down the coast.  We have first class golf courses, wineries, breweries, and casinos.  

 
SWC said:
i chose other and i pick kenosha wisconsin it is known at the san diego and stateline nevada of wisconsin it even says that on the sign which reads welcome to kenosha the san diego and stateline nevada of wisconsin and if you like weezer you will like kenosha to because in the video for buddy holly they say and now welcome kenoshas own weezer and then they rock the hell out of it so bam another riddle solved by the old swcer and that my moving friend you can take to the bank 
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What kind of banks do they have in Kenosha? They may not want to have to switch accounts in order to take stuff to the bank...

 
ZenMaster said:
My mom lives in Vegas. I like visiting but I'm not sure I'd want to live there, and it's a hard no from my wife's perspective. 

We considered the Phoenix area but we might be beaten down after 17 years of Dallas summers to go anywhere that routinely gets that hot. I know the Midwest will feel like it with the humidity but we'd like to avoid triple-digit summers if possible.
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So San Diego or Tahoe. 

 
Quez said:
Nice options for 700k in Tampa area.  Waterfront is in the picture at that point.  There are countless golf communities, new construction, lakes, beaches, acreage, etc.

You could still get a nice pad for 400k-500k and get a vacation home up north for June - August.
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If you like boating or fishing, Tampa area is a great choice. Much better than Hollywood or Ft Lauderdale, which are more costly, very crowded and not as friendly in general.

 
rascal said:
More idiots with guns here.  
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We live in Texas and are very aware of the number of guns per idiot. Not that everyone with a gun is an idiot, don't mean to say that. 

I think it's going to come down if we want to pay the $$ for San Diego or Tahoe vs. somewhere else for a lot less. We still have a couple of years before we have to decide and we'll visit all the possible options. 

 
Considering you mentioned missing the seasons, Tahoe is the easy choice. I personally would have voted San Diego, but you aren't getting much weather there. 

 
Thanks to everyone who's responded so far - we'll take a closer look at some of the suggestions. My wife was very excited about Sonoma (as expected). 

I've posted this in the retirement thread but we're tired of our high-stress jobs and want to take a step back to something else. Maybe not retirement but 're-purposing' as one of our friends put it. 

 
Tampa area by far. Wonderful weather year round. People very friendly. Cost of living cheap, cheap. I bought a 3,000 sq ft home , swimming pool, hot tub, on the water with boat dock for $400K.  No state income tax. Lots of night life, (South Tampa, Channelside, ST. Petersburg)  hunting, fishing, parks, best beaches in the US, Universities, professional football. hockey, baseball and one hour away from Orlando, Disney World. I could go on.  

 
Cjw_55106 said:
Considering you mentioned missing the seasons, Tahoe is the easy choice. I personally would have voted San Diego, but you aren't getting much weather there. 
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Missed this.  Yeah, Tampa Bay is sounding more like the wrong place for the OP.  There is only 1 season in FL, the endless Summer. 

 
Move where you think you will be most happy.  If family you like is in Cinci consider it.  With the $$$ you save you can always rent a place for two months in Jan and Feb anywhere you want and have the best of both.

 
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Da Guru said:
Move where you think you will be most happy.  If family you like is in Cinci consider it.  With the $$$ you save you can always rent a place for two months in Jan and Feb anywhere you want and have the best of both.
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That's my thought as well.    You get a taste of 4 seasons and you can try different places each year during those 2-3 months where you're escaping winter; San Diego, Austin, Florida, NOLA, maybe somewhere down in the other Americas.   Stick around for Christmas with the family and then don't come back until its almost April and the beautiful spring weather is returning.  

 
ZenMaster said:
Thanks to everyone who's responded so far - we'll take a closer look at some of the suggestions. My wife was very excited about Sonoma (as expected). 

I've posted this in the retirement thread but we're tired of our high-stress jobs and want to take a step back to something else. Maybe not retirement but 're-purposing' as one of our friends put it. 
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Sonoma is a good choice.  Lots to do, beautiful weather, good restaurants. close to SF, close to Tahoe/Reno, and the cost isn't that outrageous.

 
ZenMaster said:
I think it's going to come down if we want to pay the $$ for San Diego or Tahoe vs. somewhere else for a lot less. We still have a couple of years before we have to decide and we'll visit all the possible options. 
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If you do pick one of the more inexpensive places you may want to consider a place that Woz mentioned...

Zow said:
Moved to the southwest 8 years ago and enjoy so much more. Play a ton of golf and a boatload of poker in the Vegas/Laughlin area (just got burned out on it).  Love the ability to play golf every day of the year and the cost of living is super reasonable.  For me, I couldn't see living anywhere else other than where I live now (Lake Havasu City).  Ideally, I'm hoping to wind up in San Diego (but will probably never have the financial ability), Phoenix area, Vegas, Tucson, Tahoe, Orange County area, or Sedona/Cottonwood/Camp Verde area. 
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Tucson is a wonderful city with (1) all that you're looking for, (2) none of the negatives of Phoenix (higher altitude so cooler, NOT a big city like "mini LA" Phoenix, limited commute/traffic), (3) a place in which you can live well in the Catalina foothills AND have a second vacation home.

 
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higgins said:
If you do pick one of the more inexpensive places you may want to consider a place that Woz mentioned...

Tucson is a wonderful city with (1) all that you're looking for, (2) none of the negatives of Phoenix (higher altitude so cooler, NOT a big city like "mini LA" Phoenix, limited commute/traffic), (3) a place in which you can live well in the Catalina foothills AND have a second vacation home.
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Does it really have an average high of 99 in July and August, or is the weather channel jerking my chain?  Maybe 99 is considered cooler for Arizona.  

 
NutterButter said:
Does it really have an average high of 99 in July and August, or is the weather channel jerking my chain?  Maybe 99 is considered cooler for Arizona.  
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That's probably about right. Do you know that cliche about "dry heat"? It's true. As long as you're in shade / indoors during summer and/or golf early mornings/early evenings, you're golden.

I grew up in the midwest, lived around the US, but I'd definitely consider move back to Tucson in the future (lived there '99 - '02). Can you relate to mowing a lawn on a muggy Midwest summer day where you walk out and start sweating immediately? Won't happen in Tucson since (a) it's "dry heat, (b) you won't likely need to do much lawn work there with the lush desert landscape. :thumbup:

 
Chicago.  It's the greatest city in the world.  It has all the big city things that New York offers with that midwest charm and friendliness.  Chicago has amazing food and bars, culture, every major sports team, a great transit system, plenty of jobs, hot women.... the list is endless.  The winters are no harsher than any other winterized city.  Last two winters have been fantastic!

 
BassNBrew said:
You should strongly consider Asheville, NC.  You have the outdoors and mountains, 4 seasons, great music and food scene, and all kinds of breweries.  Cherokee is a hour away for gambling.  Cost of living is high due to the demand, but pales in comparison to SD.
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Damn, I was just getting ready to post this. Good call.

 
In The Zone said:
Damn, I was just getting ready to post this. Good call.
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Me too. And cherokee has a great poker room too.

One other place I didnt see mentioned was Colorodo Springs. Weather is more temperate than people realize given its desert footprint. 300 sunny days/year, several walkable main streets, access to casinoes, stunning nature and centrally located . There are also some smaller towns like Manitou Springs nearby that are more sleepy but no less charming and very walkable. Colorodo Springs has a small airport of its own, though Denver international is only 60 minutes away if travel is a serious consideration.

 
Quint said:
Sonoma, CA (or surrounding areas of Glen Ellen, Kenwood, Santa Rosa)

1) Poker - Graton Casino & Resort (30 min away)

2) Golf - Plenty of public/private courses in Sonoma County 

3) Cost of living - depending on amenities and location, housing could run between 500k and 1M. it's CA, so taxes are pretty high, along w/ gas prices, food prices, etc., compared to other parts of the country

4) Nature/walkability - plenty of State Parks (e.g. Annadale & Sugar Loaf) right in Sonoma Valley. Sonoma (the town) is walkable, w/ restaurants, shops, wineries, bars. if you want to get more secluded, there's Forestville/Graton witch are a bit more remote (i.e. less population density, probably lower housing costs and properties come w/ some acreage). 3 hours to Tahoe, 1 hour to SF/East Bay, 3 hours to Monterey, 45 minutes to the Pacific Ocean. 

5) Employment - numerous PT jobs available, lots of volunteer work too (especially if you like animals)

6) Weather - Spring: can be a little wet in a normal year, temps usually between 70-80; Summer - typically dry and can get hot, temps between 80-100; Fall - best time of year, temps between 70 - 85, can rain; Winter - can get fairly cold and rain is common; temps between 40-60, very, very little chance of snow

7) Activities/Entertainment - wine & wine tasting; beer & beer tasting; SF is an hour away if you want "culture"; Sonoma has a "small-town" feel with weekly farmer's market, 4th of July Parade, film festival, Napa/Sonoma marathon, BottleRock Napa, etc.; Sonoma County is a big place with lots to explore

8) not to drag politics into anything, but Sonoma/NorCal is pretty liberal if that makes a difference
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It's very nice up there.  I'll say Healdsburg, CA for the win.

 
Im planning a move to Tampa next year (I live 30 miles inland right now), but I'd rather live in St Pete. It's just a nicer city IMO. Cooler vibe, better culture, still close to everything, and an amazing downtown that has tons of restaurants/clubs/breweries/shops (and a great night life).

Youve also got museums, parks (Vinoy is great), a performance theater, golf, Derby Lane (dog track, poker, etc), lots of bicycle trails (bicycling is a popular way to get around), beautiful Fort Desoto...a short drive over the Skyway from Bradenton/Sarasota/Anna Maria Island/Longboat Key/Sanibel Island, and you're on the Gulf vs the bay (so its a little cooler and less humid than Tampa, and it gets less rain in the summer believe it or not). Also, being on the coast, youre a lot closer than Tampa to some of the best beaches in the state (from Clearwater down to Treasure Island and all the in-betweens like Redington, Belleair, Indian Rocks, etc with great options for dining on the water, and amazing sunsets). Oh, and a quick ride across the bay and you're at the Seminole Hard Rock casino, Raymond James Stadium, Amalie Arena, Florida state fairgrounds, the Amphitheater (tons of great concerts), and more strip clubs than you can shake a stick at. What's not to love? (Just stay away from South St Pete)

 
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