Where Would You Take Devin Achane Today? (1 Viewer)

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Seems odd that we had not 1, but 2 polls about CMC, yet nothing about Achane as a late 1st/early 2nd round pick.

A dude who seems undersized and gets injured a lot, and part of a 3-headed (at least) backfilled, not even listed as the starter on his own team.

Took 1 game and now he’s got a high ankle.

So where would you take Achane if you were drafting today?

 

[travdogg]

Seems odd that we had not 1, but 2 polls about CMC, yet nothing about Achane as a late 1st/early 2nd round pick.

A dude who seems undersized and gets injured a lot, and part of a 3-headed (at least) backfilled, not even listed as the starter on his own team.

Took 1 game and now he’s got a high ankle.

So where would you take Achane if you were drafting today?

I'd disagree with almost all of this. There is nothing to suggest he has a high ankle, that hasn't been reported anywhere. He practiced today, he wouldn't be doing that with a high ankle.

Its also not a 3-headed backfield. Its Achane and Mostert and that's it. Everyone else depends on an injury. He also sure looked like the starter in week 1, as he was clearly a bigger focal point than Mostert even before Mostert went down, besides, the starter on his own team thing is irrelevant. Do you hold that against Gibbs? Did you hold it against Kamara when he was technically playing behind Ingram?

I'd take him in round 2, just like I would have before the season. Despite the ankle thing, his value has probably gone up, given we now have seen his usage as a receiver.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I'd take him in round 2, just

I had him as a DND based on his second round draft capital.

But each to their own

I thought he was maybe a third or fourth round pick, baking in what I saw as substantial injury risk.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Its also not a 3-headed backfield. Its Achane and Mostert and that's it.

Really? Is that why Jeffery Wilson is a hot waiver pickup, and everyone and their brother had Wright as their favorite sleeper this year?

 

[Big Nate]

Where is it reported it is a high ankle sprain? If it was I doubt he would be practicing today.

He wasn't injury prone in college and so far this year he hasn't missed any time. I guess people who don't like him or don't want to draft him try to make up excuses.


What about these guys who missed significant time already in their career due to injury? CMC, Hall, JT, Barkley, Etienne, Walker, Jacobs and the list goes on.

The often injured narrative slapped on an RB is old as every RB has an injury risk - the nature of the position. Is he different than any other RB for potential injury?

 

[travdogg]

Its also not a 3-headed backfield. Its Achane and Mostert and that's it.

Really? Is that why Jeffery Wilson is a hot waiver pickup, and everyone and their brother had Wright as their favorite sleeper this year?

This is a little disingenuous, and an unbefitting argument. Wilson is a waiver pickup because Mostert is OUT. That's it. In fact, its since come out that Mostert might be out beyond just Thursday, and that's straight from McDaniel. Wright was inactive week 1, and Wilson didn't see the field until Mostert got hurt. Its a 2-man backfield. Just because another guy gets involved when someone gets knocked out doesn't mean its a 3 or 4 man backfield.

 

[Big Nate]

Its also not a 3-headed backfield. Its Achane and Mostert and that's it.

Really? Is that why Jeffery Wilson is a hot waiver pickup, and everyone and their brother had Wright as their favorite sleeper this year?

I explained it today in the Wilson thread. Summary is, long term they love Wright. For this big division game vs BUF I would expect them to roll with the vet in Wilson.

Doesn't mean Wright isn't their guy eventually, I actually really like Wright.

I 100% believe that Mostert, Achane, Wilson and Wright are all good backs that can run their specific roles in this offense and do well. As a fan of the team I love it.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Its also not a 3-headed backfield. Its Achane and Mostert and that's it.

Really? Is that why Jeffery Wilson is a hot waiver pickup, and everyone and their brother had Wright as their favorite sleeper this year?

This is a little disingenuous, and an unbefitting argument. Wilson is a waiver pickup because Mostert is OUT. That's it. In fact, its since come out that Mostert might be out beyond just Thursday, and that's straight from McDaniel. Wright was inactive week 1, and Wilson didn't see the field until Mostert got hurt. Its a 2-man backfield. Just because another guy gets involved when someone gets knocked out doesn't mean its a 3 or 4 man backfield.

It isn’t disingenuous in the slightest. What a ridiculous statement we can both have our opinions, but let’s not go attacking each other because we disagree. That’s beneath you.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I 100% believe that Mostert, Achane, Wilson and Wright are all good backs that can run their specific roles in this offense and do well. As a fan of the team I love it

I completely agree. In part, that’s why I didn’t want to draft Devon Achan at his second round price.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Where is it reported it is a high ankle sprain? If it was I doubt he would be practicing today.

I saw it on Twitter, and on the artist formally known as rotoworld.com.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Poll results are interesting so far… So far it is 10 - 7 who would draft him second round or higher, versus people who would draft him third round or later. Or not at all.

 

[ChicoCat]

He's one of those guys who I don't see anything wrong with someone taking him in the 2nd; but who I wouldn't take in the 2nd. For me, he doesn't quite pass a 2nd round smell test and if I passed on him and he blew up; I wouldn't feel regret.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Where is it reported it is a high ankle sprain? If it was I doubt he would be practicing today.

I saw it on Twitter, and on the artist formally known as rotoworld.com.

Apparently, he did not practice… He went through the walk-through. They’re saying he is a gametime decision.

De’Von Achane (ankle) is considered a game-time decision for Week 2 against the Bills.
Achane was able to get in a walkthrough practice on Wednesday. Raheem Mostert will miss Thursday night’s game with a chest injury he sustained last week against Jacksonville. Achane, meanwhile, picked up an ankle injury in the fourth quarter of that game and could be held out against Buffalo. That would leave Jeff Wilson as the likely lead back for Miami with rookie Jaylen Wright mixing in. Wilson in Week 1 had five carries for 26 yards. Wright was a Week 1 healthy scratch.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

He's one of those guys who I don't see anything wrong with someone taking him in the 2nd; but who I wouldn't take in the 2nd. For me, he doesn't quite pass a 2nd round smell test and if I passed on him and he blew up; I wouldn't feel regret.

This is me also.

Talented back. Red flags. Huge upside. Wasn’t for me.

That said, I’m also the dummy who took CMC 1.01 in my home league, so…yeah

 

[travdogg]

Its also not a 3-headed backfield. Its Achane and Mostert and that's it.

Really? Is that why Jeffery Wilson is a hot waiver pickup, and everyone and their brother had Wright as their favorite sleeper this year?

This is a little disingenuous, and an unbefitting argument. Wilson is a waiver pickup because Mostert is OUT. That's it. In fact, its since come out that Mostert might be out beyond just Thursday, and that's straight from McDaniel. Wright was inactive week 1, and Wilson didn't see the field until Mostert got hurt. Its a 2-man backfield. Just because another guy gets involved when someone gets knocked out doesn't mean its a 3 or 4 man backfield.

It isn’t disingenuous in the slightest. What a ridiculous statement we can both have our opinions, but let’s not go attacking each other because we disagree. That’s beneath you.

I wasn't trying to attack you, and I'm sorry if you felt I did, that's never my intention in any post.

I just don't understand the 3+ man backfield point at all. It was clearly 2 guys in week 1. It's been 2 guys since last year. Its never been 3 or more since Achane became a thing. Other guys have filled in when games were missed, but then immediately gone back to the bench or being inactive.

 

[-OZ-]

Same place I did. 3.04.

I drafted him knowing he might miss some time but when he plays he can perform. That hasn’t changed.

 

[ChicoCat]

He's one of those guys who I don't see anything wrong with someone taking him in the 2nd; but who I wouldn't take in the 2nd. For me, he doesn't quite pass a 2nd round smell test and if I passed on him and he blew up; I wouldn't feel regret.

This is me also.

Talented back. Red flags. Huge upside. Wasn’t for me.

That said, I’m also the dummy who took CMC 1.01 in my home league, so…yeah

I probably would have taken him for the simple (and dumb reason) that you wouldn't look bad if you took him and he underperformed; but you do look like an idiot if you passed and he had a McCaffrey year....but I was glad I didn't get the first overall pick. Mccaffrey is great; but he's burned me in the past and the injury preseason had me skiddish.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Same place I did. 3.04.

I drafted him knowing he might miss some time but when he plays he can perform. That hasn’t changed.

In the third round, I’m probably a buyer.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Its also not a 3-headed backfield. Its Achane and Mostert and that's it.

Really? Is that why Jeffery Wilson is a hot waiver pickup, and everyone and their brother had Wright as their favorite sleeper this year?

This is a little disingenuous, and an unbefitting argument. Wilson is a waiver pickup because Mostert is OUT. That's it. In fact, its since come out that Mostert might be out beyond just Thursday, and that's straight from McDaniel. Wright was inactive week 1, and Wilson didn't see the field until Mostert got hurt. Its a 2-man backfield. Just because another guy gets involved when someone gets knocked out doesn't mean its a 3 or 4 man backfield.

It isn’t disingenuous in the slightest. What a ridiculous statement we can both have our opinions, but let’s not go attacking each other because we disagree. That’s beneath you.

I wasn't trying to attack you, and I'm sorry if you felt I did, that's never my intention in any post.

I just don't understand the 3+ man backfield point at all. It was clearly 2 guys in week 1. It's been 2 guys since last year. Its never been 3 or more since Achane became a thing. Other guys have filled in when games were missed, but then immediately gone back to the bench or being inactive.

That’s fair. I suppose because of my 49ers bias I tend to look at Jeffrey Wilson as more than just a third string running back. He’s a very useful and talented guy who has kind of a bad rap due to his own injury history.

 

[RaidersAreOne]

There aren't many other players who can single handedly win you a week. Achane may miss time but when he is in, you are always in it.

I'd take him in the 8-12 range no problem.

 

[dickey moe]

I was thrilled to snag him at 3.08 and would do so again.

 

[Teef]

I was thrilled to snag him at 3.08 and would do so again.

I like him is this range, but I rarely saw it happen in my drafts.

 

[LionOfGosforth]

Took him at 3.3 in my local (Hall in the first), fully aware of the potential for injury issues, but figured the upside with Hall's solid numbers was a good option. Given the other players available at the time, i'd likely still take him around there. You take the rough with the smooth. I like having him as my 2, would not be thrilled with him as my 1 though.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

21-18 so far of folks who wouldn't take Achane until the 3rd vs those who'd take him 1st or 2nd round.

The 1st round votes are a bit surprising, as I hadn't seen Achane go in the 1st in any draft I did all preseason.

 

[kyoun1e]

Considering he was going late 2nd/early third prior to the season now and based on what I saw for usage in week 1, I'd consider Achane in the first half or round 2.

The upside is just too damn huge.

 

[Statorama]

Same place I did. 3.04.

I drafted him knowing he might miss some time but when he plays he can perform. That hasn’t changed.

Same here. Injury risk is baked into his draft position.

Scared money don't make money!

 

[Big Nate]

Same place I did. 3.04.

I drafted him knowing he might miss some time but when he plays he can perform. That hasn’t changed.

Same here. Injury risk is baked into his draft position.

Scared money don't make money!

Yep, he has first round talent but people are scared. So late 2nd/early third is where people started feeling comfortable.

Week one - 20pts and he looked fantastic doing it with making a bunch of people miss in the open field. It all comes down to him staying on the field.

 

[nittanylion]

Wouldn't take him then, wouldn't take him now.

My builds just don't allow for my RB2 earlier than R4, unless one of the guys I project to have an overall RB1 ceiling falls to a point where I can't say no.

 

[IHEARTFF]

He’s a first round pick in 25 me thinks

 

[kyoun1e]

First round.

 

[TheWinz]

Went 2nd round, but late second

 

[Manster]

Now that Tua is out, I wouldn't touch any phins offensive player

 

[Scooby1974]

Tannehill to the rescue? Trade for Jimmy G?

 

[Ministry of Pain]

About the 9th round with Tua likely done for the foreseeable future

All Miami WRs and RBs should be downgraded immediately

 

[dickey moe]

About the 9th round with Tua likely done for the foreseeable future

All Miami WRs and RBs should be downgraded immediately

I actually think Achane is the one who will be affected the least with the loss of Tua.

 

[BobbyLayne]

After James Cook

 

[Buckna]

Think you're looking at a Breece Hall situation like last year. Decent floor due to touches, but gotta hope Achane busts a big one every once in a while for a big fantasy night.

Not liking the rest of his schedule before BYE though. Some stout rush defenses in a row.

 

[leftcoastheel]

After James Cook

In PPR Achane outscored Cook....

 

[BobbyLayne]

pour one out for the whoosh emoji

been around long enough to remember when this place was fun

 

[Ministry of Pain]

About the 9th round with Tua likely done for the foreseeable future

All Miami WRs and RBs should be downgraded immediately

I actually think Achane is the one who will be affected the least with the loss of Tua.

I don't know why.
When teams have no real threat to their secondary because of poor QB play, Achane won't have much success with 7-8 in the box
And he won't likely catch as many balls over the season

Plus he gets injured
I would usually say buy low but this is not one of those times

Miami is quickly turning into a dumpster fire
Give it a couple of weeks and a couple of losses

 

[BobbyLayne]

After James Cook

In PPR Achane outscored Cook....

Cook 31.50 Achane 29.50 in our explosives PPR league

Also that was the seldom recognized absurdist humor form.

Spoiler: joke is always less funny

when you have to explain it

Absurdist Humor

Absurdist humor is a style of humor that is extremely silly or ridiculous

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

After tonight I’m changing my vote to “1-12” because daaaaaaaaamn.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

About the 9th round with Tua likely done for the foreseeable future

All Miami WRs and RBs should be downgraded immediately

Dude had almost 200 YFS, and a lot of that was after Tua left.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Siri

Is 165 close to 200?

200=165+35

200>165

35/200 = 17.5%

I hope this helps you.

 

[leftcoastheel]

i have achane + 1 over Cook in PPR. But perhaps I get neither your math nor your humor.

I'll take Achane all day... and I obviously I did, haha... humor!

Edit: and of course the irony is the TD differential... lol.

 

[TVT 0 N S T A]

I went 1-12... That might be too aggressive, now that I am thinking things through. I've been pretty bullish on Achane, but thinking through the top 12 picks and how WR heavy this draft was... he's probably closer to pick 15.

As far as my pre-draft RB tiers, I had him RB6 behind CMC, Breece, Bijan, Barkley and Taylor. He is probably still that for me. I could get behind someone convincing me why Kyren Williams is better but after that it's a hard stop.

He is not without risk but the risk you take by not drafting him is losing your league, if he stays healthy. The injury risk comes with the RB position. I was happy to take him at 3.07 in my only redraft. Scooped him in the rookie draft last year at 2.10. League winning upside.

 

[travdogg]

I'm not sure Tua being out, really affects Achane. Might even increase the dependence on him, meaning workloads like last night (maybe not 29 touches, but a consistent 20) might be the norm. Especially in PPR, I think he'll be fine.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Siri

Is 165 close to 200?

200=165+35

200>165

35/200 = 17.5%

I hope this helps you.

I was rounding up. Lighten up, Francis, it was late.

 

[Max Power]

I'd like to see Skyler Thompson for a full game before predicting how Achane will do. The Talent is there, but this offense is out of sorts right now.

 

[ilianawindfae]

Nobody has concerns about Mike McDaniels giving his 188 lb RB 29 touches in the same game he just lost his concussion prone QB that his team just paid $212,000,000?

In a blowout loss no less? I love Achane, but there was no need to give the guy 2.5 games worth of work in that situation. Especially after your franchise QB just went down?


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