bigreese82
Footballguy
Which one of the young guns would you trust drafting as your number 1 QB? If you say 2 of the 3...which one are you leaving out?
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Which of the 2nd year QBs will you draft as your QB1 (1 Viewer)
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TheLastDispatch
Footballguy
Rode young in the playoffs last year, but he's a 1-man offense this year.
I don't know how I feel about cutler yet, so I wouldn't want him as my QB1. I feel good about Leinart though and I'd be fine with him as my number 1.
I don't know how I feel about cutler yet, so I wouldn't want him as my QB1. I feel good about Leinart though and I'd be fine with him as my number 1.
Captain Hook
Footballguy
Obviously depends on the size of the league, but I don't see any of them being draftable as my QB1 in a 10 or 12 team league - maybe in a 14 teamer and definitely in a larger league.
However I could see drafting any one of them as my first quarterback drafted IF I had decided I was going to use a QBBC and their schedule matched up with someone I felt I could get even later.
However I could see drafting any one of them as my first quarterback drafted IF I had decided I was going to use a QBBC and their schedule matched up with someone I felt I could get even later.
fridayfrenzy
Footballguy
Captain Hook
Footballguy
and YOU mean LeinartOhhhh, you mean Leinhart.
Ned
Footballguy
Demian
Footballguy
Talk about aand YOU mean LeinartOhhhh, you mean Leinhart.
Carter_Can_Fly
Footballguy
This is funny. Correcting a guy over a spelling mistake only to spell it wrong yourself.
fridayfrenzy
Footballguy
Are you guys that clueless? Come on now. Keep up guys.Kinda defeats the point to use
when you can't follow along.
Now, lets where was that Corey Dillion spotlight I saw.
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fridayfrenzy
Footballguy
Thank you, at least someone can play along.Talk about a
Carter_Can_Fly
Footballguy
Good Cover.Thank you, at least someone can play along.Talk about aand YOU mean Leinart
brednbuddah
Footballguy
Eli is in for a long season. No Tiki, below average line, playing in NY with a bunch of egomaniacs (Shockey, Burress, etc...). Wouldn't touch him in a redraft.
brednbuddah
Footballguy
just read in another thread, Finn is out for the year (blocking FB). This is not good news for Eli at all.
a_troll00
Footballguy
BassNBrew
Footballguy
WOW...you were pimping Lienahardt as a top 10 QB not too long ago. What changed your opinion?
Fighting Noles
Footballguy
I know Romo & Rivers aren't technically 2nd year QB's (just their 2nd year starting) but how would you feel about one of them as your #1 with say Ben, Favre or Eli as backup...
bigreese82
Footballguy
Just noticed that 80% of you guys would trust one of these guys to be drafted as your QB1. Most of the comments are from guys that say no
lions327
Footballguy
I can't believe Vince Young is getting fewer votes than Leinart and Cutler. You have to believe he will rush for 500-700 yards and at least 5 TD's. That separates him from Leinart and Cutler, because he can have pedestrian passing stats and still put up solid fantasy numbers.
Whiplash Inc.
Footballguy
Leinart is a rookie keeper of mine and I currently have him penciled in as a solid backup for now. In other words, I'm drafting a QB at some point in the draft to be my starting QB.
bigreese82
Footballguy
I can't believe Vince Young is getting fewer votes than Leinart and Cutler. You have to believe he will rush for 500-700 yards and at least 5 TD's. That separates him from Leinart and Cutler, because he can have pedestrian passing stats and still put up solid fantasy numbers.
I'm starting to think the SHARK play is to wait even longer and grab 2 of these guys late-Young and Leinart or Romo)
I was just looking at our expert rankings and
Young has 8 of 13 experts that have him finishing top 10
Cutler has 2 of 13 experts that have him finishing top 10
Leinart has 5 of 13 experts that have him finishing top 10
Here some other notable guys and their top 10 votes
Eli has 1 of 13
Favre has 2 of 13 (2 #9 votes)
Rivers has 2 of 13
Hasselbeck has 6 of 13
Big Ben has 5 of 13( 4 are #10 votes)
Romo has 8 of 13
I'm starting to think the SHARK play is to wait even longer and grab 2 of these guys late-Young and Leinart or Romo)
I was just looking at our expert rankings and
Young has 8 of 13 experts that have him finishing top 10
Cutler has 2 of 13 experts that have him finishing top 10
Leinart has 5 of 13 experts that have him finishing top 10
Here some other notable guys and their top 10 votes
Eli has 1 of 13
Favre has 2 of 13 (2 #9 votes)
Rivers has 2 of 13
Hasselbeck has 6 of 13
Big Ben has 5 of 13( 4 are #10 votes)
Romo has 8 of 13
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bigreese82
Footballguy
I went over the Fantasy Football Calculator and their ADP for the QBs in question is
Young 7.2 QB9
Leinart 7.7 QB10
Cutler 9.10 QB15
(another 2nd year starter Romo 8.9 QB12)
data from 12 team drafts 507 completed draft
Young 7.2 QB9
Leinart 7.7 QB10
Cutler 9.10 QB15
(another 2nd year starter Romo 8.9 QB12)
data from 12 team drafts 507 completed draft
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Ned
Footballguy
Are you guys that clueless? Come on now. Keep up guys.Kinda defeats the point to usewhen you can't follow along.
Now, lets where was that Corey Dillion spotlight I saw.
Ohhhh, you mean Leinhart.
bcr8f
Footballguy
With the Steelers boys taking over in Zona I like Cutler. Down the stretch last season(last 3 weeks) he was #5 in my league.
BigRed
Footballguy
1 - I'm not convinced 500+/7 rushing will be the norm2 - 2200, 12/13 isn't "pedestrian," it's pathetic. Granted it was his rookie year etc, but while he'll probably improve (and I did pick him over the other 2 to do generally better over the long haul), I also see little improvement to the offense to convince me he'll do WAY better this year. I don't get how high he's going in many mocks I'm seeing.
bigreese82
Footballguy
Young will get 35 yards per game rushing in his sleep. He only had 6 games last year where he didn't have 40 yards rushingTDs?? I would guess around 5..one every 3 games seems like a modest projection
lions327
Footballguy
2200 passing yards, 12 TD's and 13 INT's...as a ROOKIE, certainly are not pathetic. I don't know what more you expect from a rookie QB, especially one who is not a pure passing QB. I actually think under the circumstances, his passing numbers were very good for a rookie QB. I also think my comment about 500-700 rushing yards was on the conservative side, if anything.
LHUCKS
Footballguy
I have him at #11 right now, but I don't want the second worst starter as my QB. Also, there's a huge dropoff after QB7.
BassNBrew
Footballguy
Was I reading more into your early posts or have you bumped Lienart down based on recent events in Arizona? I really thought he was a guy that you'd be targeting as your QB1 late while loading up at RB and WR.
SSOG
Moderator
2800 passing + 600 rushing = 4000 passing.
NorrisB
Footballguy
BigRed
Footballguy
I don't expect much more from a rookie. My point is those #s are pretty pathetic in general, and until he proves he can do a lot better, I'm literally not buying. I agree his rushing #s will help a lot, and maybe 500/7 will end up more or less average for him - but their offense is actually in worse shape personnel-wise this year than last, so I just can't justify taking Young as high as many are (it's not uncommon to see him taken as a latter QB1).
mlball77
Footballguy
2800 passing + 600 rushing = 4000 passing.
LHUCKS
Footballguy
Big Rushing QB with zero help from skill positions players = Stretcher2800 passing + 600 rushing = 4000 passing.
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LHUCKS
Footballguy
I've bumped him down a few spots because I think the Cards D is going to surprise and I'm expecting a more conservative offense. I rarely use the strategy you mentioned for redrafts, I try to land a top QB when possible unless it's a 4 pt TD passing league.
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SSOG
Moderator
Michael Vick down? Randall Cunningham down? Donovan McNabb down?Big Rushing QB with zero help from skill positions players = Stretcher
David Yudkin
Footballguy
Please breakdown which players will catch what to total 2800 receiving yards in Tennessee.
LHUCKS
Footballguy
Please breakdown which players will catch what to total 2800 receiving yards in Tennessee.2800 passing + 600 rushing = 4000 passing.
mlball77
Footballguy
In all fairness, Young passed for 1437 yards in his last eight games, along with 7 TDs, 6 INTs... and ran for 415 yards and 5 TDs.I don't think its a huge stretch to project him to throw for 2800 yards in 07 if you aren't projecting some sort of injury etc.Please breakdown which players will catch what to total 2800 receiving yards in Tennessee.
wannabee
Footballguy
he really had a good stretch to end the season. my only issue is that he lost his best two wrs and top rb. i am afraid that offense could be pretty bad making these projections tough to duplicate.In all fairness, Young passed for 1437 yards in his last eight games, along with 7 TDs, 6 INTs... and ran for 415 yards and 5 TDs.I don't think its a huge stretch to project him to throw for 2800 yards in 07 if you aren't projecting some sort of injury etc.Please breakdown which players will catch what to total 2800 receiving yards in Tennessee.
mlball77
Footballguy
Some very good points here, and I agree with them to large extent. Young's rushing ability is the equalizer though, in my view. But I do agree that there is a chance that offense in general could struggle with Henry gone and their WR issues. Maybe Young has more questions surrounding him at this point, but I like his upside the best (especially with Denny Green no longer in ARI) and, as stated before, Young's rushing ability really adds a ton of value to him in FF.he really had a good stretch to end the season. my only issue is that he lost his best two wrs and top rb. i am afraid that offense could be pretty bad making these projections tough to duplicate.In all fairness, Young passed for 1437 yards in his last eight games, along with 7 TDs, 6 INTs... and ran for 415 yards and 5 TDs.I don't think its a huge stretch to project him to throw for 2800 yards in 07 if you aren't projecting some sort of injury etc.Please breakdown which players will catch what to total 2800 receiving yards in Tennessee.2800 passing + 600 rushing = 4000 passing.
rabidfireweasel
Footballguy
All the runningbacks- 275 total yardsBo Scaife- 400 yardsBen Troupe- 350 yardsTE (3)- 75 yardsBrandon Jonea- 550 yardsCourtney Roby- 250 yardsRoydell Williams -250 yardsJustin Gauge -200 yardsChris Davis-200 yardsDavid Givens (early PUP - plays last 6 games)- 200 yardsAll other wrs- 100Please breakdown which players will catch what to total 2800 receiving yards in Tennessee.
bigreese82
Footballguy
Don't forget that his defense and running games got worse with the loss of Pacman and Henry. He will be forced to throw the ball more. I think his yardage and ints also go up from the 2800 yards projected mark. I see him around 3200 yards passing. He has 3 or 4 wrs that are entering their 3rd year and they are all 1st day picks...one will surprise...Troupe is also healthy(for nowSome very good points here, and I agree with them to large extent. Young's rushing ability is the equalizer though, in my view. But I do agree that there is a chance that offense in general could struggle with Henry gone and their WR issues. Maybe Young has more questions surrounding him at this point, but I like his upside the best (especially with Denny Green no longer in ARI) and, as stated before, Young's rushing ability really adds a ton of value to him in FF.he really had a good stretch to end the season. my only issue is that he lost his best two wrs and top rb. i am afraid that offense could be pretty bad making these projections tough to duplicate.In all fairness, Young passed for 1437 yards in his last eight games, along with 7 TDs, 6 INTs... and ran for 415 yards and 5 TDs.I don't think its a huge stretch to project him to throw for 2800 yards in 07 if you aren't projecting some sort of injury etc.Please breakdown which players will catch what to total 2800 receiving yards in Tennessee.2800 passing + 600 rushing = 4000 passing.
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LHUCKS
Footballguy
VY owner alert. :siren:Don't forget that his defense and running games got worse with the loss of Pacman and Henry. He will be forced to throw the ball more. I think his yardage and ints also go up from the 2800 yards projected mark. I see him around 3200 yards passing. He has 3 or 4 wrs that are entering their 3rd year and they are all 1st day picks...one will surprise...Troupe is also healthy(for nowSome very good points here, and I agree with them to large extent. Young's rushing ability is the equalizer though, in my view. But I do agree that there is a chance that offense in general could struggle with Henry gone and their WR issues. Maybe Young has more questions surrounding him at this point, but I like his upside the best (especially with Denny Green no longer in ARI) and, as stated before, Young's rushing ability really adds a ton of value to him in FF.he really had a good stretch to end the season. my only issue is that he lost his best two wrs and top rb. i am afraid that offense could be pretty bad making these projections tough to duplicate.In all fairness, Young passed for 1437 yards in his last eight games, along with 7 TDs, 6 INTs... and ran for 415 yards and 5 TDs.I don't think its a huge stretch to project him to throw for 2800 yards in 07 if you aren't projecting some sort of injury etc.Please breakdown which players will catch what to total 2800 receiving yards in Tennessee.)
David Yudkin
Footballguy
I love it when people take a great half season and then adapt that to the "norm" or "baseline" moving forward. Do people actually expect VY to run for 830 yards and 10 TD?In all fairness, Young passed for 1437 yards in his last eight games, along with 7 TDs, 6 INTs... and ran for 415 yards and 5 TDs.I don't think its a huge stretch to project him to throw for 2800 yards in 07 if you aren't projecting some sort of injury etc.Please breakdown which players will catch what to total 2800 receiving yards in Tennessee.2800 passing + 600 rushing = 4000 passing.
Bears_Man2
Footballguy
I'd only look at Leinart myself. Arguably best WR duo in the league and plays at home in a dome half the year among other reasons.
