Which potential Presidency does the establishment fear more (1 Viewer)

[Rove!]

I'm not so sure myself...

vote ted irrespective of poll position and odds....if the establishment woke up tomorrow and one of these guys was President, which one would they fear the most

 

[DallasDMac]

The thought of Trump with the nuclear terrifies me.

 

[skol asylum]

Trump is the establishment. He's just cutting out the middleman.

 

[McGarnicle]

The thought of Trump with the nuclear terrifies me.

Same here. With the subtropical jet stream, nuclear fallout from Mexico City reaches Atlanta in about 5 minutes.

 

[The Commish]

Establishment?  Sanders.  Establishment can laugh off a showing by Trump as an "opps" sort of event.  Sanders' policies and platform go directly at the establishment.  They don't like that very much nor do they generally like a lot of people paying attention and taking an active role in what's going on.  Sanders encourages all of that.

 

[otello]

Sanders.

 

[Hov34]

Voted Sanders.

"They" can make Trump look like a buffoon. (well, more of a buffoon)

Sanders, not so much. You can't just cry "Socialist!!!" over and over again.  Too much access to information these days.

 

[Higgs]

IMO the establishment is the wealthy business leaders who steer the elections with their PACS and huge campaign contributions.  And these people fear Trump more than they fear Sanders.  They know Trump could actually do some damage and make some meaningful changes, most notably in cracking down on the practice of giving American jobs to foreign workers and illegal immigrants who work for peanuts with no benefits.  Sanders would never get anything done.

 

[Cjw_55106]

Trump.

if you've been an elected office for over two decades, you are the establishment. 

 

[mr roboto]

This is a great question. 

Trump - unpredictable, unstable, but he is open to making a deal. Could be bought. 

Sanders - principled, far left/bad for business but generally so radical he couldn't enact most of his more extreme ideas. 

So both have a 'fear' and something that neutralizes those concerns. 

 

[squistion]

Trump.

if you've been an elected office for over two decades, you are the establishment. 

Not if you call yourself a socialist.

 

[Mors Venit]

They dont fear any of them since our elections are fake and the next president was chosen by the establishmenr a long time ago.

 

[McGarnicle]

They dont fear any of them since our elections are fake and the next president was chosen by the establishmenr illuminati a long time ago.

Fixed

 

[BroncoFreak_2K3]

Col. Sanders

 

[GroveDiesel]

IMO the establishment is the wealthy business leaders who steer the elections with their PACS and huge campaign contributions.  And these people fear Trump more than they fear Sanders.  They know Trump could actually do some damage and make some meaningful changes, most notably in cracking down on the practice of giving American jobs to foreign workers and illegal immigrants who work for peanuts with no benefits.  Sanders would never get anything done.

 Do you even pay attention? Trump's companies are constantly hiring illegal immigrants. Trump even claimed in te debate that he is FORCED to hire illegal immigrants because Americans won't do the jobs. What he really means of course is that Americans won't do the jobs for the wages he wants to pay. 

If you think a guy that has made it a practice to intentionally hire illegal immigrants is going to actually follow through on his tough talk, you're delusional. I mean seriously, Trump was for practically open borders just a few years ago. 

 

[mon]

If by establishment you mean the people running the country, Sanders is who they fear. Trump IS the establishment in another form. Corporations run the country, and Trump, being a corporation himself, would enact policy that would benefit corporations. 

 

[Higgs]

 Do you even pay attention? Trump's companies are constantly hiring illegal immigrants. Trump even claimed in te debate that he is FORCED to hire illegal immigrants because Americans won't do the jobs. What he really means of course is that Americans won't do the jobs for the wages he wants to pay. 

If you think a guy that has made it a practice to intentionally hire illegal immigrants is going to actually follow through on his tough talk, you're delusional. I mean seriously, Trump was for practically open borders just a few years ago. 

Do you have a link for your claim that Trump is constantly hiring illegal immigrants?  The Polish worker issue cited in the debate goes back to 1980 - and those workers didn't work for any Trump companies.  They were hired but a subcontractor where Trump acted as GC.  Your other debate fact is incorrect as well.  He said he is forced to hire H2B visa workers (a legal practice) because of the seasonality in Florida.  This is completely legal and is a form of immigration that I support.

 

[Thunderlips]

If by The Establishment, you mean a "Willy Bobo style, White Bread,The Man",.....then Sanders.  Trump's a businessman.  They'd be able to sit at the negotiating table with him.  They might not like, nor be accustomed to having to kiss ### so openly (as I'd imagine Trump would be pulling the old "put his opposition in the tiny little chairs in front of his big desk" move)......but he speaks the language of money.

Sanders is an idealogue......and would be more of a threat to their way of life.  He might not have much traction......but he'd be an acorn from whence a mighty oak might spring.