Which would you do if forced to choose (1 Viewer)

[switz]

This is a spinoff from another thread

In the interest of full disclosure, Addai had a 21 point lead prior to changing the poll from merely deciding between the two on total points.

 

[twitch]

at least spell the kid's name right.

 

[TheLastDispatch]

When all is said and done here, I'd be surprised if Maroney gets half as many votes as Addai in this thread.

 

[twitch]

Im not voting. There's only one choice.

 

[One]

Addai by a mile.

 

[switz]

at least spell the kid's name right.

Not my fault he doesn't spell Lawrence properly.

 

[gianmarco]

Not sure what the point of this post/poll is. It's not as if these 2 are being remotely drafted near each other.

P.S.--I read the other thread. Don't think it was suggested that Maroney would outscore Addai.

 

[twitch]

Not sure what the point of this post/poll is. It's not as if these 2 are being remotely drafted near each other. P.S.--I read the other thread. Don't think it was suggested that Maroney would outscore Addai.

Thanks, g. It wasnt. But since when do guys need actual points to make?

 

[twitch]

Id say this. According to one prominent fantasy source, who's name begins with a C, and who's television network covers AFC games, Addai is ranked 5th and Maroney 16th. Id take Maroney all day every day as the 16th best RB. Im not real sure Id ever draft Addai in the 5 hole. Not that those rankings are an end all be all. But if that's where those 2 guys are going, the 'value' of the two is nowhere near close.

 

[gianmarco]

Id say this. According to one prominent fantasy source, who's name begins with a C, and who's television network covers AFC games, Addai is ranked 5th and Maroney 16th. Id take Maroney all day every day as the 16th best RB. Im not real sure Id ever draft Addai in the 5 hole. Not that those rankings are an end all be all. But if that's where those 2 guys are going, the 'value' of the two is nowhere near close.

Agreed.

 

[switz]

Id say this. According to one prominent fantasy source, who's name begins with a C, and who's television network covers AFC games, Addai is ranked 5th and Maroney 16th. Id take Maroney all day every day as the 16th best RB. Im not real sure Id ever draft Addai in the 5 hole. Not that those rankings are an end all be all. But if that's where those 2 guys are going, the 'value' of the two is nowhere near close.

Agreed.

Should I change the poll to - who would you draft?Addai at #5?Maroney at #16?I still think Addai would win by a large margin.

 

[gianmarco]

Id say this. According to one prominent fantasy source, who's name begins with a C, and who's television network covers AFC games, Addai is ranked 5th and Maroney 16th. Id take Maroney all day every day as the 16th best RB. Im not real sure Id ever draft Addai in the 5 hole. Not that those rankings are an end all be all. But if that's where those 2 guys are going, the 'value' of the two is nowhere near close.

Agreed.

Should I change the poll to - who would you draft?Addai at #5?Maroney at #16?I still think Addai would win by a large margin.

Sure. You can ask it one of two ways (or both). Which is the better value play or which pick would you feel most comfortable making if forced between one or the other.

 

[twitch]

Id say this. According to one prominent fantasy source, who's name begins with a C, and who's television network covers AFC games, Addai is ranked 5th and Maroney 16th. Id take Maroney all day every day as the 16th best RB. Im not real sure Id ever draft Addai in the 5 hole. Not that those rankings are an end all be all. But if that's where those 2 guys are going, the 'value' of the two is nowhere near close.

Agreed.

Should I change the poll to - who would you draft?Addai at #5?Maroney at #16?I still think Addai would win by a large margin.

Its all in good fun. I think this particular poll serves the purpose, which is to keep Maroney's draft position in check. Just wish you would have spelled my boy's name right. But Ive got to admit, as I dont follow rankings very closely lately, that I was a little shocked to see Joe Addai at 5. I had no earthly idea he was viewed that prominently. I sensed that Maroney was in the 16ish-20 area. But Addai basically didnt really have what Id tag as a 'good' week for a top 5 kindof guy beyond the NE game in week 9. Im sure there were reasons for that which youd be more familiar with than me. But after the Colts drafted a decent backup RB in Mike Hart, bringing in another old reliable backup recently in Dom Rhodes, I dont see it. Like I said, I wouldnt touch Addai at 5 myself after what he did in the 2nd half of last season. But this poll should continue to be a landslide for good reason. NE just cant run the ball.

 

[twitch]

Well, that recent poll adjustment changes things a bit. Last I saw, it was 24-4 Addai pre-adjustment. Maybe just clear the votes and start over.

 

[switz]

Well, that recent poll adjustment changes things a bit. Last I saw, it was 24-4 Addai pre-adjustment. Maybe just clear the votes and start over.

I don't see any ability to clear votes, so I posted in the initial post the edge Addai had. We can fairly say if he finishes with grater than a 42 vote lead, that his value is perceived as better. That gives leeway for the original 21 vote lead to be fully given in Maroney's favor, and Addai still come out on top.

 

[LarryAllen'sJockstrap]

Id say this. According to one prominent fantasy source, who's name begins with a C, and who's television network covers AFC games, Addai is ranked 5th and Maroney 16th. Id take Maroney all day every day as the 16th best RB. Im not real sure Id ever draft Addai in the 5 hole. Not that those rankings are an end all be all. But if that's where those 2 guys are going, the 'value' of the two is nowhere near close.

Why? He finished #5 among RBs last season, is on an offense you don't have to worry about producing.

 

[twitch]

Id say this. According to one prominent fantasy source, who's name begins with a C, and who's television network covers AFC games, Addai is ranked 5th and Maroney 16th. Id take Maroney all day every day as the 16th best RB. Im not real sure Id ever draft Addai in the 5 hole. Not that those rankings are an end all be all. But if that's where those 2 guys are going, the 'value' of the two is nowhere near close.

Why? He finished #5 among RBs last season, is on an offense you don't have to worry about producing.

I dont know when your playoffs would have fallen. But looking at his rushing totals from weeks 12-17, for a top 5 guy, Im not going to bat with that history. He had rushing games of 44, 67, 32, 44, 26 and 27 yds rushing. As a top 5 overall choice, and a RB, Im looking at rushing totals first and foremost. I dont completely discount his receiving #s or his scores obviously, but do those rushing totals impress you enough to take this guy 5th overall? If yes, good for you. Your a little more gutsy than this kid.

 

[switz]

Id say this. According to one prominent fantasy source, who's name begins with a C, and who's television network covers AFC games, Addai is ranked 5th and Maroney 16th. Id take Maroney all day every day as the 16th best RB. Im not real sure Id ever draft Addai in the 5 hole. Not that those rankings are an end all be all. But if that's where those 2 guys are going, the 'value' of the two is nowhere near close.

Why? He finished #5 among RBs last season, is on an offense you don't have to worry about producing.

I dont know when your playoffs would have fallen. But looking at his rushing totals from weeks 12-17, for a top 5 guy, Im not going to bat with that history. He had rushing games of 44, 67, 32, 44, 26 and 27 yds rushing. As a top 5 overall choice, and a RB, Im looking at rushing totals first and foremost. I dont completely discount his receiving #s or his scores obviously, but do those rushing totals impress you enough to take this guy 5th overall? If yes, good for you. Your a little more gutsy than this kid.

Of course that is totally discounting that in the playoffs, Addai was in potentially the worst situation he will ever be in as a Colt. So what we are looking at last year, is the floor for Addai.

 

[jurb26]

This poll is bogus unless you start a new thread.

 

[twitch]

Id say this. According to one prominent fantasy source, who's name begins with a C, and who's television network covers AFC games, Addai is ranked 5th and Maroney 16th. Id take Maroney all day every day as the 16th best RB. Im not real sure Id ever draft Addai in the 5 hole. Not that those rankings are an end all be all. But if that's where those 2 guys are going, the 'value' of the two is nowhere near close.

Why? He finished #5 among RBs last season, is on an offense you don't have to worry about producing.

I dont know when your playoffs would have fallen. But looking at his rushing totals from weeks 12-17, for a top 5 guy, Im not going to bat with that history. He had rushing games of 44, 67, 32, 44, 26 and 27 yds rushing. As a top 5 overall choice, and a RB, Im looking at rushing totals first and foremost. I dont completely discount his receiving #s or his scores obviously, but do those rushing totals impress you enough to take this guy 5th overall? If yes, good for you. Your a little more gutsy than this kid.

Of course that is totally discounting that in the playoffs, Addai was in potentially the worst situation he will ever be in as a Colt. So what we are looking at last year, is the floor for Addai.

Oh, OK. A floor. Is that what you call it? :(

 

[switz]

This poll is bogus unless you start a new thread.

We know what the results were before hand.Addai has clearly dominated since the change.

 

[jurb26]

This poll is bogus unless you start a new thread.

We know what the results were before hand.Addai has clearly dominated since the change.

Huh, how do you now that? It doesn't even look like there have been many votes since the change over. Either way, why leave any doubt about the question at hand? Some of the people who voted for Addai may now want to change their vote now that the question is different. I know I do.

 

[switz]

This poll is bogus unless you start a new thread.

We know what the results were before hand.Addai has clearly dominated since the change.

Huh, how do you now that? It doesn't even look like there have been many votes since the change over. Either way, why leave any doubt about the question at hand? Some of the people who voted for Addai may now want to change their vote now that the question is different. I know I do.

Well the vote was 25-4 when I changed the poll. As I noted when I changed the poll, Addai had a 21 point lead. He now has an ever larger lead.When the poll is over, you can swing the initial 21 point lead at Maroney if you want, even though it's doubtful ALL those votes would have changed to Maroney.

 

[twitch]

Here's a TOP 200 that sortof accentuates my point. If Addai were to be drafted as the 5th best RB, then he'd logically go either 6th or possibly 7th(Brady, Moss or Manning, but doubtful). More than likely, he'd go 6th behind one of those 3 guys as the other non-RB drafted ahead of him. But Maroney, as the 16 best RB, would probably see atleast 3 or 4 QBs taken ahead of him, and several receivers. This list has him going 30th and Addai 6th. Based on those #s, give me a shot at Maroney all day at 30 with a couple of earlier picks and Im hammering an Addai owner taking him 6th. No question.

 

[switz]

Here's a TOP 200 that sortof accentuates my point. If Addai were to be drafted as the 5th best RB, then he'd logically go either 6th or possibly 7th(Brady, Moss or Manning, but doubtful). More than likely, he'd go 6th behind one of those 3 guys as the other non-RB drafted ahead of him. But Maroney, as the 16 best RB, would probably see atleast 3 or 4 QBs taken ahead of him, and several receivers. This list has him going 30th and Addai 6th. Based on those #s, give me a shot at Maroney all day at 30 with a couple of earlier picks and Im hammering an Addai owner taking him 6th. No question.

That's your opinion, but it's really not as simple as you make it. It depends on who your other picks are... Addai certainly does not hurt you if you draft him 5-7. And that's what you are trying to say.Give me Addai at 6, and a bonafide stud WR which you can grab around 30 and I dominate the guy who passes on Addai to grab someone else too early, and fills that spot with Maroney later.

Maroney is no more a value play at 30 than Addai is at 6. Unless you think Addai will far underperform his draft position, and Maroney will far outperform his.

Otherwise you are arguing against every first round pick.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Addai by a mile.

The only way Maroney and the #16 fall into the equation is if you are having a Banzai Method Draft.

 

[redman]

Strange poll. What criteria are we using?

Highest expected value in redraft? Addai is the choice.

Best value per the pick? I think Maroney has by far the best ability to outperform his draft position, so I'd go with Maroney there.

Straight up dynasty? Tougher question, but I might even go with Maroney there.

Again, this is too ill-defined to answer.

 

[switz]

This poll is bogus unless you start a new thread.

We know what the results were before hand.Addai has clearly dominated since the change.

Huh, how do you now that? It doesn't even look like there have been many votes since the change over. Either way, why leave any doubt about the question at hand? Some of the people who voted for Addai may now want to change their vote now that the question is different. I know I do.

Addai now has a 51-8 lead. Even if you take the entire 21 vote lead Addai had prior to the poll adjustment, he's still on top. I think the points been made.

 

[twitch]

Here's a TOP 200 that sortof accentuates my point. If Addai were to be drafted as the 5th best RB, then he'd logically go either 6th or possibly 7th(Brady, Moss or Manning, but doubtful). More than likely, he'd go 6th behind one of those 3 guys as the other non-RB drafted ahead of him. But Maroney, as the 16 best RB, would probably see atleast 3 or 4 QBs taken ahead of him, and several receivers. This list has him going 30th and Addai 6th. Based on those #s, give me a shot at Maroney all day at 30 with a couple of earlier picks and Im hammering an Addai owner taking him 6th. No question.

That's your opinion, but it's really not as simple as you make it. It depends on who your other picks are... Addai certainly does not hurt you if you draft him 5-7. And that's what you are trying to say.Give me Addai at 6, and a bonafide stud WR which you can grab around 30 and I dominate the guy who passes on Addai to grab someone else too early, and fills that spot with Maroney later.

Maroney is no more a value play at 30 than Addai is at 6. Unless you think Addai will far underperform his draft position, and Maroney will far outperform his.

Otherwise you are arguing against every first round pick.

Funny as it is, that with Addai falling at 6 and Maroney at 30, we'd have them on the same team. I just dont see Addai really going UP from 6. Im not really saying he's going to 'hurt' anyone in that position if he does what he did last season, unless of course he fades in the 2nd half of the season again. But Id hypothetically draft him at 6 hoping he gives me top 5 #s, not #1 numbers. Maroney on the other hand, going around 30, leaves alot more room to exceed his draft position. Id absolutely expect top 10 #s. Im not making any secret of that at all this year. Maroney WILL be a top 10 RB. So, drafting him 30th, Im feeling very comfortable that I'll end up with at least ONE RB1. And if the lead RB drafted in the 1st round, whether it would be Addai or Barber or someone of that quality, performs at top 10 level, then Id be in good shape. Of course, both of the guys drafted ahead of Maroney could be busts. But barring injury, Maroney will produce this year at a high level. bank it.

 

[switz]

But barring injury, Maroney will produce this year at a high level. bank it.

You'll never here from me that he doesn't have the talent to do so.

 

[DoubleG]

No offense switz, but this "poll" makes no sense. Who did we take with our first round pickif we're picking at 16? Are we picking Maroney to be our RB2 at 16?? If this is "would you rather have the 5th pick or get stuck with only the 16th?" it makes even less sense.

Apparently this is the second part of an argumnet, and I missed the first part.

 

[Knight who says Ni]

I didn't read the previous discussion on this, but if I am in a 10-team redraft league in which I have the 5th and 16th picks, I would much rather have Addai as my #1 back at the 5 pick then wait until the 16th and take Maroney as my #1

 

[pizzatyme]

I'm an Addai homer and Maroney is the easy choice here based on the information given. I'd be taking maroney as my RB2. Addai @5 is his ceiling. Maroney @ 16 is closer to his floor.

 

[rzrback77]

I did not read al the replies so I may be restating, but the poll is flawed. Maroney is currently going as around the 16th to 18th RB as opposed to Addai around RB 5 or 6. But you do have to select Addai at 5 or 6. You can get Maroney as late as 30 or lower. Nobody with any idea of current ADP is going to take Maroney at 16, so the poll is flawed. Almost everyone should vote Addai because he is much closer to his ADP. The only ones voting Maroney is this poll are just stubborn and trying to make a point.

However, I would prefer to grab Maroney around 25ish over Addai at RB5, especially in dynasty (where you could trade down and have extra picks) and I think there would be a few that agree with that.

 

[pizzatyme]

I did not read al the replies so I may be restating, but the poll is flawed. Maroney is currently going as around the 16th to 18th RB as opposed to Addai around RB 5 or 6. But you do have to select Addai at 5 or 6. You can get Maroney as late as 30 or lower. Nobody with any idea of current ADP is going to take Maroney at 16, so the poll is flawed. Almost everyone should vote Addai because he is much closer to his ADP. The only ones voting Maroney is this poll are just stubborn and trying to make a point.However, I would prefer to grab Maroney around 25ish over Addai at RB5, especially in dynasty (where you could trade down and have extra picks) and I think there would be a few that agree with that.

Even in re-draft, why would people be happier about getting someone at the ADP versus someone with more perceived value than their ADP? I'd go Maroney all day given the OP criteria.

 

[Maroney=Speed]

This is a spinoff from another threadIn the interest of full disclosure, Addai had a 21 point lead prior to changing the poll from merely deciding between the two on total points.

I'm sure you know how I would vote, better player in 1st round, higher pick in 2nd round. Why is this so hard for you?

 

[switz]

Why is this so hard for you?

Hard for who?

 

[switz]

I did not read al the replies so I may be restating, but the poll is flawed. Maroney is currently going as around the 16th to 18th RB as opposed to Addai around RB 5 or 6. But you do have to select Addai at 5 or 6. You can get Maroney as late as 30 or lower. Nobody with any idea of current ADP is going to take Maroney at 16, so the poll is flawed. Almost everyone should vote Addai because he is much closer to his ADP. The only ones voting Maroney is this poll are just stubborn and trying to make a point.However, I would prefer to grab Maroney around 25ish over Addai at RB5, especially in dynasty (where you could trade down and have extra picks) and I think there would be a few that agree with that.

This was based on a discussion in another thread where someone said they would prefer Maroney at 16 than Addai at 5. Since then they've changed and said by 16 they meant around pick 30. But if you honestly feel Maroney would finish that high, and Addai would finish that high, why would you favor one over the other?

 

[twitch]

I did not read al the replies so I may be restating, but the poll is flawed. Maroney is currently going as around the 16th to 18th RB as opposed to Addai around RB 5 or 6. But you do have to select Addai at 5 or 6. You can get Maroney as late as 30 or lower. Nobody with any idea of current ADP is going to take Maroney at 16, so the poll is flawed. Almost everyone should vote Addai because he is much closer to his ADP. The only ones voting Maroney is this poll are just stubborn and trying to make a point.

However, I would prefer to grab Maroney around 25ish over Addai at RB5, especially in dynasty (where you could trade down and have extra picks) and I think there would be a few that agree with that.

This was based on a discussion in another thread where someone said they would prefer Maroney at 16 than Addai at 5. Since then they've changed and said by 16 they meant around pick 30. But if you honestly feel Maroney would finish that high, and Addai would finish that high, why would you favor one over the other?

Switz, youre my guy, and the poll is doing its job, but I did make it clear earlier that it would really be Addai at around 6 and Maroney at around 30. Addai would RB5 and Maroney RB16. Their actual draft position would likely not reflect those positions. So, it really is a bit confusing. But its been a good debate and I appreciate the feeback. These types of polls really do a lot of good in devising draft day strategy. Anyone who's considering either guy may have a better idea of where each may fall. Ideally, it would be nice to get both on a team, though they share the same bye week, so week 4 might not be a lot of fun.

 

[switz]

Ideally, it would be nice to get both on a team, though they share the same bye week, so week 4 might not be a lot of fun.

Yeah, unfortunately that is true, so it is a choice an owner has to make. I agree that Maroney probably will outperform his draft position, but that's because he is ranked low because of the uncertainty in NE. I would be thrilled to have either on my team.

 

[Al Toon's Mole]

In terms of Fantasy Football...Maroney is so overrated it's not even funny. The guy is on a pass first team, and just isnt that good. He may fill a need for Pat's in terms of a RB who can gain a few yards on each carry. But I never saw why people thought this kid was THAT GOOD!!

He needs to be part of a RBBC to be truly effective IMHO.

I'd rather have to take Addai with the 1st pick, then Maroney with 20 or so. Addais proved to me last year that the kid can flat out play. Maroney didn't show me much.

(Plus he sounds like Shannon Sharpe)

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Ideally, it would be nice to get both on a team, though they share the same bye week, so week 4 might not be a lot of fun.

Yeah, unfortunately that is true, so it is a choice an owner has to make. I agree that Maroney probably will outperform his draft position, but that's because he is ranked low because of the uncertainty in NE. I would be thrilled to have either on my team.

Won't be able to get Addai at the #5 position at any draft either.

 

[brock]

it depends on who's available at #9.

but if addai is falling to #5 then i'll take peterson at #3

 

[BigSteelThrill]

it depends on who's available at #9.

and #20.

 

[brock]

it depends on who's available at #9.

and #20.

yep

 

[The Man with the Plan]

I'd draft Addai and then trade him for Maroney and someone else.