White's weight a concern (1 Viewer)

[Dirty Weasel]

I don't care if LenDale weighs 230 or 260. Come FF draft day he'll be on my radar, unless TEN trades for Turner (unlikely) or drafts AP/Lynch (they will already be gone by TEN's pick at #19). The Titans have the 3rd easiest schedule against the run in 2007, and someone will benefit from it (yeah, yeah, I know you jokesters will say Vince Young). LenDale didn't do that bad last year in his limited opportunities. He had a better YPC than 5 of the top 20 RB's in my league last year (Rudi, Bush, Edge, Jamal, KJ) and equal to 2 more (Chester and Ahman). Yes ... he had a higher YPC than even the immortal Reggie Bush!

 

[Holy Schneikes]

My feeling is that White's going to be one of those players whose weight fluctuates just because of his body type, and because he's not a workout warrior. It sounds to me like he makes it work kind of the way that Bettis did. It's not ideal from a fantasy owner standpoint because it will always make you uneasy, but unless he suffers an injury I think you have to shrug it off and not worry too much about it.

The thing about White is that even though he is bigger than what most would like in their ideal RB, he has amazing feet for his size. We will likely hear this crap about his weight every year.

If he produces this year, you probably won't hear much about his weight next year. If he doesn't, you may not hear much about him at all.After all of the hype followed by disappointment from Ron Dayne for like 3 or 4 years straight, I think folks will have a little less patience for a bigger back than they did before.

I feel like White's got a great shot here, but he needs to make something of it, or he will be written off. He doesn't have a ton invested in him at his point.

 

[Colin Dowling]

The last time White actually played a full game, he was busy making a spectacle of the Longhorns defense. His rookie year was plagued by some issues that seem to have worked themselves out (maturity, hammy). I have no idea why people are ready to give up on a guy who hasn't even been in the league a year.

 

[EBF]

The last time White actually played a full game, he was busy making a spectacle of the Longhorns defense. His rookie year was plagued by some issues that seem to have worked themselves out (maturity, hammy). I have no idea why people are ready to give up on a guy who hasn't even been in the league a year.

 

[NorrisB]

The last time White actually played a full game, he was busy making a spectacle of the Longhorns defense. His rookie year was plagued by some issues that seem to have worked themselves out (maturity, hammy). I have no idea why people are ready to give up on a guy who hasn't even been in the league a year.

 

[Bob Magaw]

few if any schools have produced as many star NFL RBs as USC (tailback U)... white broke career TD record... leaving a year early... & despite hindrance of having to earn playing time out of a RBBC, necessitated by being in same backfield as one of top collegiate RB prospects ever...

he is about the same size as he was then, when he starred for the trojans... as has been noted, he has great feet & athleticism for a big man (cousin is chauncey billups)... also, how many RBs have same OC in NFL as they did in college (norm chow)...

 

[Kiddnets]

So post draft thoughts on White - they picked up a RB on the first day but not a must start stud. Also passed on Turner.

FBGs have him ranked around 30 RB - I grabbed him for very cheap in my main keeper league - he has lots of upside IMO and is in an excellent situation

Any more post draft thoughts on White?

 

[Colin Dowling]

I think it's reasonable to expect he and Henry to have 150+ touches.

 

[massraider]

I think it's reasonable to expect he and Henry to have 150+ touches.

Colin, do you get the feeling that the coaches want a lead dog, and would prefer to run with one guy, or do you think they are planning a RBBC?

 

[Kiddnets]

I think it's reasonable to expect he and Henry to have 150+ touches.

Don't know much about Henry - but gotta figure that White gets a lot of the GL touches since he is a big dude? I would take a season of 800 yds and 8 TDs from the big fella as my #3 RB! Unrealistic?

 

[perry147]

I think it's reasonable to expect he and Henry to have 150+ touches.

Don't know much about Henry - but gotta figure that White gets a lot of the GL touches since he is a big dude? I would take a season of 800 yds and 8 TDs from the big fella as my #3 RB! Unrealistic?

I think you are being unrealistic. VY will be a GL hog like he always has using the dual threat of run and pass.

 

[redman]

I think it's reasonable to expect he and Henry to have 150+ touches.

Don't know much about Henry - but gotta figure that White gets a lot of the GL touches since he is a big dude? I would take a season of 800 yds and 8 TDs from the big fella as my #3 RB! Unrealistic?

I think you are being unrealistic. VY will be a GL hog like he always has using the dual threat of run and pass.

Travis Henry had 7 rushing TD's last year. I fail to see how 8 is an unreasonable number for a guy who is presumed to be the goalline RB.

 

[Colin Dowling]

I think it's reasonable to expect he and Henry to have 150+ touches.

Colin, do you get the feeling that the coaches want a lead dog, and would prefer to run with one guy, or do you think they are planning a RBBC?

I think the Titans offense, and the players within it, are built to go from short to long. In other words, in addition to "establishing the run" (which most teams do), I think the Titans are interested in using the short pass to create deep opportunities and not the other way around. Looking at the guys on the roster, they seem to have a lot more receiving talent in the 5-10 yard range then the 20-30 yard range. The loss of Wade is contrary to that, but most everyone else on the roster is more of short-pass type. (This is kind of hard to explain, but I'll try).Tight End is their deepest spot. Troupe, Scaiffe, and Kinney are all able pass catchers.The RBs aren't Steven Jackson or LT in the passing game, but I can see Henry ending up in the slot a bit. Lendale is good for the occasional reception and Hall is a nice pass catching FB.Joel Filani caught a TON of short stuff in college and was expected to make something happen with the ball in his hands.Chris Davis is suited for the slot.Givens was (rightly or wrongly) thought of as a possession guy in NE as Branch was supposed to be the burner.THey're chasing Keyshaun, the very embodiment of "slow guy with great hands and good routes."With the exception of Jones (who I think is only beginning to tap in to his talent) and Paul WIlliams (who is a similar untapped talent) I think every pass catcher they have is more suited to the "run precise routes, catch what comes your way" model then the "beat your man and get down the field" model.Vince's legs are perhaps the best Linebacker-freezer in the NFL. The 5-10 yard range should be wide open for the Titans on every snap provided the intended receiver catches the ball with any consistency. Furthermore, Chow's best offensive work was essentially done with Lendale White and Reggie Bush working in tandem, both capable of dominating defenses on their own that the presence of both made gameplanning near impossible. Stack the box? Ok, we'll put Reggie in and move him all around in the formation. Extra DBs? Fine, we'll send Lendale off-tackle for the next half. While Chris Henry's athleticism isn't in the same league as Bush, I think that the Titans think he can play the Bush role in the NFL along side White. Answer to your question: Yes, I think it's an RBBC, but more of a Dallas Cowboy kind where the guy getting the touches is the guy better suited to challenge the opposition's D.

 

[apkballa]

The last time White actually played a full game, he was busy making a spectacle of the Longhorns defense. His rookie year was plagued by some issues that seem to have worked themselves out (maturity, hammy). I have no idea why people are ready to give up on a guy who hasn't even been in the league a year.

 

[Warpig]

Lendale = FB

 

[Giggity]

The last time White actually played a full game, he was busy making a spectacle of the Longhorns defense. His rookie year was plagued by some issues that seem to have worked themselves out (maturity, hammy). I have no idea why people are ready to give up on a guy who hasn't even been in the league a year.

And the last time Mike Williams actually played a full game, he was dominating the PAC-10. Ron Dayne dominated in college.College != NFL. Let it go. Talent with bad work ethic = monster bust. Name a lazy stud in the NFL?White's talent means NOTHING in the NFL. It doesn't carry you. You can't get by on it. With a bad work ethic, talent doesn't matter. You gotta work your ### off to compete against the best athletes in the world. And White obviously doesn't get it.

 

[Colin Dowling]

The last time White actually played a full game, he was busy making a spectacle of the Longhorns defense. His rookie year was plagued by some issues that seem to have worked themselves out (maturity, hammy). I have no idea why people are ready to give up on a guy who hasn't even been in the league a year.

And the last time Mike Williams actually played a full game, he was dominating the PAC-10. Ron Dayne dominated in college.College != NFL. Let it go. Talent with bad work ethic = monster bust. Name a lazy stud in the NFL?White's talent means NOTHING in the NFL. It doesn't carry you. You can't get by on it. With a bad work ethic, talent doesn't matter. You gotta work your ### off to compete against the best athletes in the world. And White obviously doesn't get it.

Can you please link to the proof that he doesn't work hard? TIA>

 

[CA_7]

Can you please link to the proof that he doesn't work hard? TIA

1. Some considered Philadelphia an obvious landing spot at No. 14 for the former USC star, but whispers about White's work ethic may drop his stock. Mar. 30 - 12:59 pm etc http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...=233457&hl=

2. "His character, he has matured, but there is some validity in the questions. His work ethic has progressed since I've been here... but he hasn't been the hardest worker." Todd McNair (USC RB Coach 2004 & 2005) - Apr. 27, 2006

http://www.ohio.com/mld/ohio/sports/footba...ns/14440113.htm

(link gone but was referenced in Shark Pool last year)

3. A high ranking official on a team with a need for a running back, was utterly shocked at White's lack of preparation. He acknowledged that White had been a prospect for his team would consider with their first round pick. However, after having seen for himself how disinterested the former USC back had been on his own Pro Day, the source argued for his club to completely remove White from consideration...."This is typical LenDale", the scout said. "He's been known as an immature, lazy guy throughout his time at SC and it just goes to show you that even on one of the most important days of his life he is still pulling this (stuff)"

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/news/index.ph...amp;ucat=2&

4. "As one NFL general manager said after seeing White at the combine: “The guy needed a bra, it was ridiculous. You come to the combine looking like that and you want to be a first-round pick? Come on. The guy had obviously been doing nothing.”"

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12126007/

5. “The guy can play, but he just gets by,” said a former USC offensive player who was teammates with White. “He coasted in practice and he coasted in the offseason. He came in thinking he just had to put in his time and that’s what you see now. People think he’s great and the talent is there … but the stuff he did was just because he played next to Reggie and with all those other guys around him. If he had really worked at it, he would have been amazing.”

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12126007/

Edit: added #4 and #5

 

[Mr. Peterson]

Can you please link to the proof that he doesn't work hard? TIA

1. Some considered Philadelphia an obvious landing spot at No. 14 for the former USC star, but whispers about White's work ethic may drop his stock. Mar. 30 - 12:59 pm etc http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...=233457&hl=

2. "His character, he has matured, but there is some validity in the questions. His work ethic has progressed since I've been here... but he hasn't been the hardest worker." Todd McNair (USC RB Coach 2004 & 2005) - Apr. 27, 2006

http://www.ohio.com/mld/ohio/sports/footba...ns/14440113.htm

(link gone but was referenced in Shark Pool last year)

3. A high ranking official on a team with a need for a running back, was utterly shocked at White's lack of preparation. He acknowledged that White had been a prospect for his team would consider with their first round pick. However, after having seen for himself how disinterested the former USC back had been on his own Pro Day, the source argued for his club to completely remove White from consideration...."This is typical LenDale", the scout said. "He's been known as an immature, lazy guy throughout his time at SC and it just goes to show you that even on one of the most important days of his life he is still pulling this (stuff)"

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/news/index.ph...amp;ucat=2&

4. "As one NFL general manager said after seeing White at the combine: “The guy needed a bra, it was ridiculous. You come to the combine looking like that and you want to be a first-round pick? Come on. The guy had obviously been doing nothing.”"

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12126007/

5. “The guy can play, but he just gets by,” said a former USC offensive player who was teammates with White. “He coasted in practice and he coasted in the offseason. He came in thinking he just had to put in his time and that’s what you see now. People think he’s great and the talent is there … but the stuff he did was just because he played next to Reggie and with all those other guys around him. If he had really worked at it, he would have been amazing.”

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12126007/

Edit: added #4 and #5

Kinda got you there.

 

[Kiddnets]

Can you please link to the proof that he doesn't work hard? TIA

1. Some considered Philadelphia an obvious landing spot at No. 14 for the former USC star, but whispers about White's work ethic may drop his stock. Mar. 30 - 12:59 pm etc http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...=233457&hl=

2. "His character, he has matured, but there is some validity in the questions. His work ethic has progressed since I've been here... but he hasn't been the hardest worker." Todd McNair (USC RB Coach 2004 & 2005) - Apr. 27, 2006

http://www.ohio.com/mld/ohio/sports/footba...ns/14440113.htm

(link gone but was referenced in Shark Pool last year)

3. A high ranking official on a team with a need for a running back, was utterly shocked at White's lack of preparation. He acknowledged that White had been a prospect for his team would consider with their first round pick. However, after having seen for himself how disinterested the former USC back had been on his own Pro Day, the source argued for his club to completely remove White from consideration...."This is typical LenDale", the scout said. "He's been known as an immature, lazy guy throughout his time at SC and it just goes to show you that even on one of the most important days of his life he is still pulling this (stuff)"

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/news/index.ph...amp;ucat=2&

4. "As one NFL general manager said after seeing White at the combine: “The guy needed a bra, it was ridiculous. You come to the combine looking like that and you want to be a first-round pick? Come on. The guy had obviously been doing nothing.”"

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12126007/

5. “The guy can play, but he just gets by,” said a former USC offensive player who was teammates with White. “He coasted in practice and he coasted in the offseason. He came in thinking he just had to put in his time and that’s what you see now. People think he’s great and the talent is there … but the stuff he did was just because he played next to Reggie and with all those other guys around him. If he had really worked at it, he would have been amazing.”

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12126007/

Edit: added #4 and #5

 

[Colin Dowling]

Can you please link to the proof that he doesn't work hard? TIA

1. Some considered Philadelphia an obvious landing spot at No. 14 for the former USC star, but whispers about White's work ethic may drop his stock. Mar. 30 - 12:59 pm etc http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...=233457&hl=

2. "His character, he has matured, but there is some validity in the questions. His work ethic has progressed since I've been here... but he hasn't been the hardest worker." Todd McNair (USC RB Coach 2004 & 2005) - Apr. 27, 2006

http://www.ohio.com/mld/ohio/sports/footba...ns/14440113.htm

(link gone but was referenced in Shark Pool last year)

3. A high ranking official on a team with a need for a running back, was utterly shocked at White's lack of preparation. He acknowledged that White had been a prospect for his team would consider with their first round pick. However, after having seen for himself how disinterested the former USC back had been on his own Pro Day, the source argued for his club to completely remove White from consideration...."This is typical LenDale", the scout said. "He's been known as an immature, lazy guy throughout his time at SC and it just goes to show you that even on one of the most important days of his life he is still pulling this (stuff)"

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/news/index.ph...amp;ucat=2&

4. "As one NFL general manager said after seeing White at the combine: “The guy needed a bra, it was ridiculous. You come to the combine looking like that and you want to be a first-round pick? Come on. The guy had obviously been doing nothing.”"

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12126007/

5. “The guy can play, but he just gets by,” said a former USC offensive player who was teammates with White. “He coasted in practice and he coasted in the offseason. He came in thinking he just had to put in his time and that’s what you see now. People think he’s great and the talent is there … but the stuff he did was just because he played next to Reggie and with all those other guys around him. If he had really worked at it, he would have been amazing.”

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12126007/

Edit: added #4 and #5

I was actually asking for links. I knew White had some maturity issues, and I knew his hammy had sunk is Pro-Day and brought him to camp last year out of shape. I had not previously seen the stories about him being lazy during his whole time at USC, nor the stories about him being lazy as this past season wore on.

 

[Giggity]

Can you please link to the proof that he doesn't work hard? TIA

1. Some considered Philadelphia an obvious landing spot at No. 14 for the former USC star, but whispers about White's work ethic may drop his stock. Mar. 30 - 12:59 pm etc http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...=233457&hl=

2. "His character, he has matured, but there is some validity in the questions. His work ethic has progressed since I've been here... but he hasn't been the hardest worker." Todd McNair (USC RB Coach 2004 & 2005) - Apr. 27, 2006

http://www.ohio.com/mld/ohio/sports/footba...ns/14440113.htm

(link gone but was referenced in Shark Pool last year)

3. A high ranking official on a team with a need for a running back, was utterly shocked at White's lack of preparation. He acknowledged that White had been a prospect for his team would consider with their first round pick. However, after having seen for himself how disinterested the former USC back had been on his own Pro Day, the source argued for his club to completely remove White from consideration...."This is typical LenDale", the scout said. "He's been known as an immature, lazy guy throughout his time at SC and it just goes to show you that even on one of the most important days of his life he is still pulling this (stuff)"

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/news/index.ph...amp;ucat=2&

4. "As one NFL general manager said after seeing White at the combine: “The guy needed a bra, it was ridiculous. You come to the combine looking like that and you want to be a first-round pick? Come on. The guy had obviously been doing nothing.”"

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12126007/

5. “The guy can play, but he just gets by,” said a former USC offensive player who was teammates with White. “He coasted in practice and he coasted in the offseason. He came in thinking he just had to put in his time and that’s what you see now. People think he’s great and the talent is there … but the stuff he did was just because he played next to Reggie and with all those other guys around him. If he had really worked at it, he would have been amazing.”

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12126007/

Edit: added #4 and #5

I was actually asking for links. I knew White had some maturity issues, and I knew his hammy had sunk is Pro-Day and brought him to camp last year out of shape. I had not previously seen the stories about him being lazy during his whole time at USC, nor the stories about him being lazy as this past season wore on.

Do you have problems digesting basic information?“The guy can play, but he just gets by,”

He relied on his natural talent, and put in the minimum work.

He's shown up out of shape numerous times. (lack of work ethic)

The guy needed a bra, it was ridiculous. You come to the combine looking like that and you want to be a first-round pick? Come on. The guy had obviously been doing nothing.”"

"but he hasn't been the hardest worker"

How can you read all those quotes, and miss the lazy part?

Take the blinders off. White is fat, lazy, and lacks a good work ethic. End of story.

This reminds me of your quote about Norwood, how he played in a conference that didn't play defense.

*LOL*

 

[Couch Potato]

Tight End is their deepest spot. Troupe, Scaiffe, and Kinney are all able pass catchers.

It's troubling to me, wanting to be able to rely on your Titans' homer expertise, that you don't know Kinney was released in March.And Scaife is with one 'f.'

 

[Colin Dowling]

Tight End is their deepest spot. Troupe, Scaiffe, and Kinney are all able pass catchers.

It's troubling to me, wanting to be able to rely on your Titans' homer expertise, that you don't know Kinney was released in March.And Scaife is with one 'f.'

Missed the Kinney release, actually, although I'm not surprised. I think he would have been 3rd of 3 anyway.Don't be toubled. It's too early in the day for that.

 

[CA_7]

Can you please link to the proof that he doesn't work hard? TIA

1. Some considered Philadelphia an obvious landing spot at No. 14 for the former USC star, but whispers about White's work ethic may drop his stock. Mar. 30 - 12:59 pm etc http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...=233457&hl=

2. "His character, he has matured, but there is some validity in the questions. His work ethic has progressed since I've been here... but he hasn't been the hardest worker." Todd McNair (USC RB Coach 2004 & 2005) - Apr. 27, 2006

http://www.ohio.com/mld/ohio/sports/footba...ns/14440113.htm

(link gone but was referenced in Shark Pool last year)

3. A high ranking official on a team with a need for a running back, was utterly shocked at White's lack of preparation. He acknowledged that White had been a prospect for his team would consider with their first round pick. However, after having seen for himself how disinterested the former USC back had been on his own Pro Day, the source argued for his club to completely remove White from consideration...."This is typical LenDale", the scout said. "He's been known as an immature, lazy guy throughout his time at SC and it just goes to show you that even on one of the most important days of his life he is still pulling this (stuff)"

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/news/index.ph...amp;ucat=2&

4. "As one NFL general manager said after seeing White at the combine: “The guy needed a bra, it was ridiculous. You come to the combine looking like that and you want to be a first-round pick? Come on. The guy had obviously been doing nothing.”"

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12126007/

5. “The guy can play, but he just gets by,” said a former USC offensive player who was teammates with White. “He coasted in practice and he coasted in the offseason. He came in thinking he just had to put in his time and that’s what you see now. People think he’s great and the talent is there … but the stuff he did was just because he played next to Reggie and with all those other guys around him. If he had really worked at it, he would have been amazing.”

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12126007/

Edit: added #4 and #5

I was actually asking for links. I knew White had some maturity issues, and I knew his hammy had sunk is Pro-Day and brought him to camp last year out of shape. I had not previously seen the stories about him being lazy during his whole time at USC, nor the stories about him being lazy as this past season wore on.

Yea! In your face! jk...

Too bad serious questions rarely get taken serious around here...

 

[Colin Dowling]

Can you please link to the proof that he doesn't work hard? TIA

1. Some considered Philadelphia an obvious landing spot at No. 14 for the former USC star, but whispers about White's work ethic may drop his stock. Mar. 30 - 12:59 pm etc http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...=233457&hl=

2. "His character, he has matured, but there is some validity in the questions. His work ethic has progressed since I've been here... but he hasn't been the hardest worker." Todd McNair (USC RB Coach 2004 & 2005) - Apr. 27, 2006

http://www.ohio.com/mld/ohio/sports/footba...ns/14440113.htm

(link gone but was referenced in Shark Pool last year)

3. A high ranking official on a team with a need for a running back, was utterly shocked at White's lack of preparation. He acknowledged that White had been a prospect for his team would consider with their first round pick. However, after having seen for himself how disinterested the former USC back had been on his own Pro Day, the source argued for his club to completely remove White from consideration...."This is typical LenDale", the scout said. "He's been known as an immature, lazy guy throughout his time at SC and it just goes to show you that even on one of the most important days of his life he is still pulling this (stuff)"

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/news/index.ph...amp;ucat=2&

4. "As one NFL general manager said after seeing White at the combine: “The guy needed a bra, it was ridiculous. You come to the combine looking like that and you want to be a first-round pick? Come on. The guy had obviously been doing nothing.”"

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12126007/

5. “The guy can play, but he just gets by,” said a former USC offensive player who was teammates with White. “He coasted in practice and he coasted in the offseason. He came in thinking he just had to put in his time and that’s what you see now. People think he’s great and the talent is there … but the stuff he did was just because he played next to Reggie and with all those other guys around him. If he had really worked at it, he would have been amazing.”

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12126007/

Edit: added #4 and #5

I was actually asking for links. I knew White had some maturity issues, and I knew his hammy had sunk is Pro-Day and brought him to camp last year out of shape. I had not previously seen the stories about him being lazy during his whole time at USC, nor the stories about him being lazy as this past season wore on.

Do you have problems digesting basic information?“The guy can play, but he just gets by,”

He relied on his natural talent, and put in the minimum work.

He's shown up out of shape numerous times. (lack of work ethic)

The guy needed a bra, it was ridiculous. You come to the combine looking like that and you want to be a first-round pick? Come on. The guy had obviously been doing nothing.”"

"but he hasn't been the hardest worker"

How can you read all those quotes, and miss the lazy part?

Take the blinders off. White is fat, lazy, and lacks a good work ethic. End of story.

This reminds me of your quote about Norwood, how he played in a conference that didn't play defense.

*LOL*

I'm concerned about your reading comprehension. After reading all of those quotes, it's pretty clear to see the lazy part. I don't recall reading all of that before. As I said, I was well aware that he had a troubling Spring leading up to the '06 draft, and his ability/drive were called in to question early on in NAshville. THat ssaid, his role picked up a fair bit as the season wore on and the indications of what I HAD read were that he was getting better. It will be interesting to see.I'll need you to point me in the direction of me saying that the SEC doesn't play defense.

 

[Couch Potato]

Tight End is their deepest spot. Troupe, Scaiffe, and Kinney are all able pass catchers.

It's troubling to me, wanting to be able to rely on your Titans' homer expertise, that you don't know Kinney was released in March.And Scaife is with one 'f.'

Missed the Kinney release, actually, although I'm not surprised. I think he would have been 3rd of 3 anyway.Don't be toubled. It's too early in the day for that.

Don't worry me, Colin. I thought maybe you're getting Alzheimer's. I rely on you too much for that!

 

[EBF]

Almost everything that's being said about LenDale White was said about Larry Johnson back when he was a "bust."

My general rule is not to write a player off until he's legitimately blown 1-2 opportunities. White hasn't done that yet, so I'm sticking with my initial assessment of his prospects. I think he's a talented back with a chance to become a solid starter in the mold of Stephen Davis or Jerome Bettis.

 

[Joe Bryant]

Almost everything that's being said about LenDale White was said about Larry Johnson back when he was a "bust." My general rule is not to write a player off until he's legitimately blown 1-2 opportunities. White hasn't done that yet, so I'm sticking with my initial assessment of his prospects. I think he's a talented back with a chance to become a solid starter in the mold of Stephen Davis or Jerome Bettis.

Thanks EBF,Really? I don't doubt you're right but I honestly don't remember that much about LJ except for the Vermeil "diaper" stuff. I hear lots of things on White from character stuff (allegedly calling out the gay ex player at the rookie symposium as a ######) and spitting on the team mate and being lazy and fat. Do you really remember that stuff on LJ?J

 

[CA_7]

Looks like that off season workout is paying dividends...

The Titans held a minicamp practice on Thursday, and running back LenDale White was among those who did not participate. Fisher said White strained a hamstring earlier in the week during an organized workout, and was scheduled to undergo tests.

http://www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/ar...1/70510028/1027

 

[EBF]

Almost everything that's being said about LenDale White was said about Larry Johnson back when he was a "bust." My general rule is not to write a player off until he's legitimately blown 1-2 opportunities. White hasn't done that yet, so I'm sticking with my initial assessment of his prospects. I think he's a talented back with a chance to become a solid starter in the mold of Stephen Davis or Jerome Bettis.

Thanks EBF,Really? I don't doubt you're right but I honestly don't remember that much about LJ except for the Vermeil "diaper" stuff. I hear lots of things on White from character stuff (allegedly calling out the gay ex player at the rookie symposium as a ######) and spitting on the team mate and being lazy and fat. Do you really remember that stuff on LJ?J

The premature bust talk reminds me a lot of the threads about LJ from 2-3 years ago. Now obviously there is some legitimately troubling stuff about White (immaturity questions + Tennessee's strong interest in Michael Turner), but I think you'd be a fool to write him off before he has a chance to make his case on the football field. A good rule of thumb in dynasty is don't assume that a player is a bust until he proves he's a bust. Until a guy gets a chance to start, you really don't know what he can do. Chad Johnson was a nobody after his first year. Larry Johnson was a bust. LaDainian Tomlinson was just another first round RB who had a decent rookie season (Anthony Thomas had a better YPC and was voted Rookie of the Year). You have to be patient with young players or you risk missing the boat. My attitude with White is that he's innocent until proven guilty. Second hand rumors and speculation aren't enough reason for me to write a guy off. He has a chance to come in, win a starting job, and have a big season. If he blows this opportunity then I'll start taking the bust talk far more seriously.

 

[ILUVBEER99]

Almost everything that's being said about LenDale White was said about Larry Johnson back when he was a "bust." My general rule is not to write a player off until he's legitimately blown 1-2 opportunities. White hasn't done that yet, so I'm sticking with my initial assessment of his prospects. I think he's a talented back with a chance to become a solid starter in the mold of Stephen Davis or Jerome Bettis.

Thanks EBF,Really? I don't doubt you're right but I honestly don't remember that much about LJ except for the Vermeil "diaper" stuff. I hear lots of things on White from character stuff (allegedly calling out the gay ex player at the rookie symposium as a ######) and spitting on the team mate and being lazy and fat. Do you really remember that stuff on LJ?J

All i remember is things about him not getting along with some coaches due to playing time. Never read anything about him being out of shape or unmotivated.If anything he was a bit too motivated to play and couldn't stand being on the bench.

 

[trader jake]

Almost everything that's being said about LenDale White was said about Larry Johnson back when he was a "bust." My general rule is not to write a player off until he's legitimately blown 1-2 opportunities. White hasn't done that yet, so I'm sticking with my initial assessment of his prospects. I think he's a talented back with a chance to become a solid starter in the mold of Stephen Davis or Jerome Bettis.

You should use EVERY piece of information to make/reassess your opinions on a player.If your original opinion is high on a player, but he struggles early, you will probably still have a higher ranking of him moving forward than most. "Sticking with [your] initial assessment of his prospects" without taking in that information seems foolish and stubborn. Just my 2 cents.

 

[ILUVBEER99]

The premature bust talk reminds me a lot of the threads about LJ from 2-3 years ago. Now obviously there is some legitimately troubling stuff about White (immaturity questions + Tennessee's strong interest in Michael Turner), but I think you'd be a fool to write him off before he has a chance to make his case on the football field. A good rule of thumb in dynasty is don't assume that a player is a bust until he proves he's a bust. Until a guy gets a chance to start, you really don't know what he can do. Chad Johnson was a nobody after his first year. Larry Johnson was a bust. LaDainian Tomlinson was just another first round RB who had a decent rookie season (Anthony Thomas had a better YPC and was voted Rookie of the Year). You have to be patient with young players or you risk missing the boat. My attitude with White is that he's innocent until proven guilty. Second hand rumors and speculation aren't enough reason for me to write a guy off. He has a chance to come in, win a starting job, and have a big season. If he blows this opportunity then I'll start taking the bust talk far more seriously.

I think most people have him as a big favorite to get the majority of the carries this year, but he does have characteristics that make him a bust candidate. In todays NFL players can't fatten up over the offseason and get away with it. Not staying in shape when your job demands it as the NFL level is pretty inexcusable.For him to not take advantage of this offseason when he is being lined up to be the starter just heightens the concerns about his motivation. The competition is so high in the NFL that even the best talents can't get away with being lazy, and while White is a good talent he's not elite.

 

[EBF]

Almost everything that's being said about LenDale White was said about Larry Johnson back when he was a "bust."

My general rule is not to write a player off until he's legitimately blown 1-2 opportunities. White hasn't done that yet, so I'm sticking with my initial assessment of his prospects. I think he's a talented back with a chance to become a solid starter in the mold of Stephen Davis or Jerome Bettis.

You should use EVERY piece of information to make/reassess your opinions on a player.If your original opinion is high on a player, but he struggles early, you will probably still have a higher ranking of him moving forward than most. "Sticking with [your] initial assessment of his prospects" without taking in that information seems foolish and stubborn. Just my 2 cents.

I definitely take new information into account. In this case I don't see any solid evidence to justify a major bump down in my rankings. Here's how I see LenDale White:

Positives

- Dominant college player. Had over 50 rushing TDs and 3,000 rushing yards in three seasons at USC. Broke the school's all-time rushing TD record. Rushed for 1,302 yards and 24 TDs at an average of 6.6 YPC as a junior.

- Drafted in the second round despite character concerns and despite the fact that he did not work out for scouts prior to the draft.

- Only major competition for touches is Chris Henry, a questionable prospect who rushed for 859 total yards and 9 TDs at a rate of 3.37 YPC throughout his entire college career. White was far more productive against the same competition, was chosen higher in the draft, and was generally regarded as a superior prospect when he entered the league.

- Averaged a respectable 4.0 YPC in NFL action last year.

Negatives

- Questionable attitude

- Tennessee's strong interest in Michael Turner and eventual selection of Chris Henry in the 2nd round of the draft does not suggest a lot of faith in White.

- Has struggled with injuries and is rumored to have weight problems.

I don't see any obvious reason to assume White will be worthless. My stance is that if he works remotely hard and stays healthy then he has a good chance to be the main back in Tennessee next year. This hardly seems like a ridiculous assertion.

 

[EBF]

The premature bust talk reminds me a lot of the threads about LJ from 2-3 years ago. Now obviously there is some legitimately troubling stuff about White (immaturity questions + Tennessee's strong interest in Michael Turner), but I think you'd be a fool to write him off before he has a chance to make his case on the football field. A good rule of thumb in dynasty is don't assume that a player is a bust until he proves he's a bust. Until a guy gets a chance to start, you really don't know what he can do. Chad Johnson was a nobody after his first year. Larry Johnson was a bust. LaDainian Tomlinson was just another first round RB who had a decent rookie season (Anthony Thomas had a better YPC and was voted Rookie of the Year). You have to be patient with young players or you risk missing the boat. My attitude with White is that he's innocent until proven guilty. Second hand rumors and speculation aren't enough reason for me to write a guy off. He has a chance to come in, win a starting job, and have a big season. If he blows this opportunity then I'll start taking the bust talk far more seriously.

I think most people have him as a big favorite to get the majority of the carries this year, but he does have characteristics that make him a bust candidate. In todays NFL players can't fatten up over the offseason and get away with it. Not staying in shape when your job demands it as the NFL level is pretty inexcusable.For him to not take advantage of this offseason when he is being lined up to be the starter just heightens the concerns about his motivation. The competition is so high in the NFL that even the best talents can't get away with being lazy, and while White is a good talent he's not elite.

According to FBG staff member Cecil Lammey, White recently reported his weight at 239 pounds. That's probably close to his natural playing weight. I could be wrong here, but I haven't seen the 260 pounds rumor confirmed by a reliable source.

 

[crnerblitz]

It seems to me another Titan was being groomed as the apparent starter last off season. He also didn't take the chance he was given very seriously. I wonder what happen to that player? Hmm, maybe someone should pm Lendwhale and let him know how that worked out.

What did ever happen to _________ fantasy value?

 

[Joe Bryant]

Almost everything that's being said about LenDale White was said about Larry Johnson back when he was a "bust." My general rule is not to write a player off until he's legitimately blown 1-2 opportunities. White hasn't done that yet, so I'm sticking with my initial assessment of his prospects. I think he's a talented back with a chance to become a solid starter in the mold of Stephen Davis or Jerome Bettis.

Thanks EBF,Really? I don't doubt you're right but I honestly don't remember that much about LJ except for the Vermeil "diaper" stuff. I hear lots of things on White from character stuff (allegedly calling out the gay ex player at the rookie symposium as a ######) and spitting on the team mate and being lazy and fat. Do you really remember that stuff on LJ?J

The premature bust talk reminds me a lot of the threads about LJ from 2-3 years ago. Now obviously there is some legitimately troubling stuff about White (immaturity questions + Tennessee's strong interest in Michael Turner), but I think you'd be a fool to write him off before he has a chance to make his case on the football field. A good rule of thumb in dynasty is don't assume that a player is a bust until he proves he's a bust. Until a guy gets a chance to start, you really don't know what he can do. Chad Johnson was a nobody after his first year. Larry Johnson was a bust. LaDainian Tomlinson was just another first round RB who had a decent rookie season (Anthony Thomas had a better YPC and was voted Rookie of the Year). You have to be patient with young players or you risk missing the boat. My attitude with White is that he's innocent until proven guilty. Second hand rumors and speculation aren't enough reason for me to write a guy off. He has a chance to come in, win a starting job, and have a big season. If he blows this opportunity then I'll start taking the bust talk far more seriously.

Hi EBF,I don't doubt it's way too early to write him off. I'm not suggesting that. I just don't remember "Almost everything that's being said about LenDale White was said about Larry Johnson". Do you really?J

 

[Joe Bryant]

Almost everything that's being said about LenDale White was said about Larry Johnson back when he was a "bust." My general rule is not to write a player off until he's legitimately blown 1-2 opportunities. White hasn't done that yet, so I'm sticking with my initial assessment of his prospects. I think he's a talented back with a chance to become a solid starter in the mold of Stephen Davis or Jerome Bettis.

Thanks EBF,Really? I don't doubt you're right but I honestly don't remember that much about LJ except for the Vermeil "diaper" stuff. I hear lots of things on White from character stuff (allegedly calling out the gay ex player at the rookie symposium as a ######) and spitting on the team mate and being lazy and fat. Do you really remember that stuff on LJ?J

All i remember is things about him not getting along with some coaches due to playing time. Never read anything about him being out of shape or unmotivated.If anything he was a bit too motivated to play and couldn't stand being on the bench.

That's pretty much how I remember it.J

 

[EBF]

Almost everything that's being said about LenDale White was said about Larry Johnson back when he was a "bust." My general rule is not to write a player off until he's legitimately blown 1-2 opportunities. White hasn't done that yet, so I'm sticking with my initial assessment of his prospects. I think he's a talented back with a chance to become a solid starter in the mold of Stephen Davis or Jerome Bettis.

Thanks EBF,Really? I don't doubt you're right but I honestly don't remember that much about LJ except for the Vermeil "diaper" stuff. I hear lots of things on White from character stuff (allegedly calling out the gay ex player at the rookie symposium as a ######) and spitting on the team mate and being lazy and fat. Do you really remember that stuff on LJ?J

The premature bust talk reminds me a lot of the threads about LJ from 2-3 years ago. Now obviously there is some legitimately troubling stuff about White (immaturity questions + Tennessee's strong interest in Michael Turner), but I think you'd be a fool to write him off before he has a chance to make his case on the football field. A good rule of thumb in dynasty is don't assume that a player is a bust until he proves he's a bust. Until a guy gets a chance to start, you really don't know what he can do. Chad Johnson was a nobody after his first year. Larry Johnson was a bust. LaDainian Tomlinson was just another first round RB who had a decent rookie season (Anthony Thomas had a better YPC and was voted Rookie of the Year). You have to be patient with young players or you risk missing the boat. My attitude with White is that he's innocent until proven guilty. Second hand rumors and speculation aren't enough reason for me to write a guy off. He has a chance to come in, win a starting job, and have a big season. If he blows this opportunity then I'll start taking the bust talk far more seriously.

Hi EBF,I don't doubt it's way too early to write him off. I'm not suggesting that. I just don't remember "Almost everything that's being said about LenDale White was said about Larry Johnson". Do you really?J

I didn't mean that statement 100% literally. My point was that the negativity surrounding White right now reminds me a lot of the negativity surrounding LJ at this time a few years back.

 

[Joe Bryant]

Almost everything that's being said about LenDale White was said about Larry Johnson back when he was a "bust." My general rule is not to write a player off until he's legitimately blown 1-2 opportunities. White hasn't done that yet, so I'm sticking with my initial assessment of his prospects. I think he's a talented back with a chance to become a solid starter in the mold of Stephen Davis or Jerome Bettis.

Thanks EBF,Really? I don't doubt you're right but I honestly don't remember that much about LJ except for the Vermeil "diaper" stuff. I hear lots of things on White from character stuff (allegedly calling out the gay ex player at the rookie symposium as a ######) and spitting on the team mate and being lazy and fat. Do you really remember that stuff on LJ?J

The premature bust talk reminds me a lot of the threads about LJ from 2-3 years ago. Now obviously there is some legitimately troubling stuff about White (immaturity questions + Tennessee's strong interest in Michael Turner), but I think you'd be a fool to write him off before he has a chance to make his case on the football field. A good rule of thumb in dynasty is don't assume that a player is a bust until he proves he's a bust. Until a guy gets a chance to start, you really don't know what he can do. Chad Johnson was a nobody after his first year. Larry Johnson was a bust. LaDainian Tomlinson was just another first round RB who had a decent rookie season (Anthony Thomas had a better YPC and was voted Rookie of the Year). You have to be patient with young players or you risk missing the boat. My attitude with White is that he's innocent until proven guilty. Second hand rumors and speculation aren't enough reason for me to write a guy off. He has a chance to come in, win a starting job, and have a big season. If he blows this opportunity then I'll start taking the bust talk far more seriously.

Hi EBF,I don't doubt it's way too early to write him off. I'm not suggesting that. I just don't remember "Almost everything that's being said about LenDale White was said about Larry Johnson". Do you really?J

I didn't mean that statement 100% literally. My point was that the negativity surrounding White right now reminds me a lot of the negativity surrounding LJ at this time a few years back.

I see. Thanks.J

 

[redman]

See if you can guess who these draft profiles refer to. Hint: one of them is Lendale White. I've deleted references that make them more obvious, and have kept the stuff about physical attributes.

RB | (6-1, 228, 4.6) | Positives: Good size, speed and production. Patient and uses blockers well. Has some elusiveness. Can break high tackles and make catches while facing the quarterback. Good quickness (both lateral and rear) and good in-line. Good vision, anticipation and use of blockers. Can pick and slide, get wide and redirect. Tough, finishes runs and has great moves. [He] can see the cutback lanes and cut upfield. Good agility and balance to make first man miss. Very good hands. High character. Top special-teams player who had three blocked punts in his first three years. Versatile halfback who catches the ball well and returns kickoffs. Negatives: Gets narrow and a little upright. Struggles breaking low tackles. Not a pile mover. Average blocker who is reluctant to face up. Lacks explosiveness. Has an average lean and at times, dances too much. Not overly aggressive. Struggled against tough competition. Not a home-run hitter on a consistent basis.Summary: A solid, durable back with size and deceptive speed.

And,

RB | (6-0, 237, 4.6) | STRONG POINTS He is a surprisingly good athlete for such a big back, which allows him to make sharp cuts to get through the backside hole very well. He has the quick feet and agility to avoid tacklers in the backfield and can accelerate to full speed quickly. While he lacks explosiveness, he does get through the hole fast and has the play speed to make big plays once he gets to full speed. He runs very strong and aggressive, which helps him to consistently break tackles and gain yards after contact. He does a very good job of reading the defense to adjust to different blitzes, gets into good position and stands up blitzers in their tracks consistently -- very good strength as pass blocker. WEAKNESSES Lacks the explosiveness to shoot through the hole to get behind the defense in a flash and does not have the premier playing speed to run away from the defense on long runs and will get caught from behind in the NFL. He is not an elusive runner and will not be able to make tacklers miss in the NFL. He lacks the burst to get the corner on his own and cannot bounce runs outside when the middle is clogged up. He is an adequate receiver out of the backfield -- limited catches in college and did not look natural on the few chances he had.

 

[Banger]

Almost everything that's being said about LenDale White was said about Larry Johnson back when he was a "bust." My general rule is not to write a player off until he's legitimately blown 1-2 opportunities. White hasn't done that yet, so I'm sticking with my initial assessment of his prospects. I think he's a talented back with a chance to become a solid starter in the mold of Stephen Davis or Jerome Bettis.

Thanks EBF,Really? I don't doubt you're right but I honestly don't remember that much about LJ except for the Vermeil "diaper" stuff. I hear lots of things on White from character stuff (allegedly calling out the gay ex player at the rookie symposium as a ######) and spitting on the team mate and being lazy and fat. Do you really remember that stuff on LJ?J

The premature bust talk reminds me a lot of the threads about LJ from 2-3 years ago. Now obviously there is some legitimately troubling stuff about White (immaturity questions + Tennessee's strong interest in Michael Turner), but I think you'd be a fool to write him off before he has a chance to make his case on the football field. A good rule of thumb in dynasty is don't assume that a player is a bust until he proves he's a bust. Until a guy gets a chance to start, you really don't know what he can do. Chad Johnson was a nobody after his first year. Larry Johnson was a bust. LaDainian Tomlinson was just another first round RB who had a decent rookie season (Anthony Thomas had a better YPC and was voted Rookie of the Year). You have to be patient with young players or you risk missing the boat. My attitude with White is that he's innocent until proven guilty. Second hand rumors and speculation aren't enough reason for me to write a guy off. He has a chance to come in, win a starting job, and have a big season. If he blows this opportunity then I'll start taking the bust talk far more seriously.

Hi EBF,I don't doubt it's way too early to write him off. I'm not suggesting that. I just don't remember "Almost everything that's being said about LenDale White was said about Larry Johnson". Do you really?J

I didn't mean that statement 100% literally. My point was that the negativity surrounding White right now reminds me a lot of the negativity surrounding LJ at this time a few years back.

The difference in the attitude is miles apart though and that's the big difference. LJ had a problem with respect but drive/motivation was never in question, he wanted to be the starter. While White on the other hand has the opportunity but the internal drive isn't there and that's a HUGE red flag to me. EVERYONE in the NFL has talent but the good/elite players have that internal drive to push themselves to be the best and if a guy doesn't have that and needs to be pushed/prodded to stay in shape/hustle/etc. they aren't going to be in the NFL for long.

 

[CA_7]

The difference in the attitude is miles apart though and that's the big difference. LJ had a problem with respect but drive/motivation was never in question, he wanted to be the starter. While White on the other hand has the opportunity but the internal drive isn't there and that's a HUGE red flag to me. EVERYONE in the NFL has talent but the good/elite players have that internal drive to push themselves to be the best and if a guy doesn't have that and needs to be pushed/prodded to stay in shape/hustle/etc. they aren't going to be in the NFL for long.

Well said and my biggest concern as well.I am not a Sociology expert (or whatever field it would fall into) but seems to me that people with poor work ethic and lack of drive rarely change their ways at this point in their life. Maybe LenDale pieces it together for a few months or half of a season but chances are at some point he falls back into his comfort zone, even if that costs him millions.

 

[Spike]

Can you please link to the proof that he doesn't work hard? TIA

1. Some considered Philadelphia an obvious landing spot at No. 14 for the former USC star, but whispers about White's work ethic may drop his stock. Mar. 30 - 12:59 pm etc http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...=233457&hl=

2. "His character, he has matured, but there is some validity in the questions. His work ethic has progressed since I've been here... but he hasn't been the hardest worker." Todd McNair (USC RB Coach 2004 & 2005) - Apr. 27, 2006

http://www.ohio.com/mld/ohio/sports/footba...ns/14440113.htm

(link gone but was referenced in Shark Pool last year)

3. A high ranking official on a team with a need for a running back, was utterly shocked at White's lack of preparation. He acknowledged that White had been a prospect for his team would consider with their first round pick. However, after having seen for himself how disinterested the former USC back had been on his own Pro Day, the source argued for his club to completely remove White from consideration...."This is typical LenDale", the scout said. "He's been known as an immature, lazy guy throughout his time at SC and it just goes to show you that even on one of the most important days of his life he is still pulling this (stuff)"

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/news/index.ph...amp;ucat=2&

4. "As one NFL general manager said after seeing White at the combine: “The guy needed a bra, it was ridiculous. You come to the combine looking like that and you want to be a first-round pick? Come on. The guy had obviously been doing nothing.”"

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12126007/

5. “The guy can play, but he just gets by,” said a former USC offensive player who was teammates with White. “He coasted in practice and he coasted in the offseason. He came in thinking he just had to put in his time and that’s what you see now. People think he’s great and the talent is there … but the stuff he did was just because he played next to Reggie and with all those other guys around him. If he had really worked at it, he would have been amazing.”

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12126007/

Edit: added #4 and #5

This is the sort of stuff I would liked to have seen last year before I (apparently) wasted a 1.05 rookie pick in a dynasty league on the guy!D'oh!

 

[redman]

See if you can guess who these draft profiles refer to. Hint: one of them is Lendale White. I've deleted references that make them more obvious, and have kept the stuff about physical attributes.

RB | (6-1, 228, 4.6) | Positives: Good size, speed and production. Patient and uses blockers well. Has some elusiveness. Can break high tackles and make catches while facing the quarterback. Good quickness (both lateral and rear) and good in-line. Good vision, anticipation and use of blockers. Can pick and slide, get wide and redirect. Tough, finishes runs and has great moves. [He] can see the cutback lanes and cut upfield. Good agility and balance to make first man miss. Very good hands. High character. Top special-teams player who had three blocked punts in his first three years. Versatile halfback who catches the ball well and returns kickoffs. Negatives: Gets narrow and a little upright. Struggles breaking low tackles. Not a pile mover. Average blocker who is reluctant to face up. Lacks explosiveness. Has an average lean and at times, dances too much. Not overly aggressive. Struggled against tough competition. Not a home-run hitter on a consistent basis.Summary: A solid, durable back with size and deceptive speed.

And,

RB | (6-0, 237, 4.6) | STRONG POINTS He is a surprisingly good athlete for such a big back, which allows him to make sharp cuts to get through the backside hole very well. He has the quick feet and agility to avoid tacklers in the backfield and can accelerate to full speed quickly. While he lacks explosiveness, he does get through the hole fast and has the play speed to make big plays once he gets to full speed. He runs very strong and aggressive, which helps him to consistently break tackles and gain yards after contact. He does a very good job of reading the defense to adjust to different blitzes, gets into good position and stands up blitzers in their tracks consistently -- very good strength as pass blocker. WEAKNESSES Lacks the explosiveness to shoot through the hole to get behind the defense in a flash and does not have the premier playing speed to run away from the defense on long runs and will get caught from behind in the NFL. He is not an elusive runner and will not be able to make tacklers miss in the NFL. He lacks the burst to get the corner on his own and cannot bounce runs outside when the middle is clogged up. He is an adequate receiver out of the backfield -- limited catches in college and did not look natural on the few chances he had.

I'm a little surprised nobody took a shot at this. Oh well. The bottom profile is Lendale White's. The top profile (from ESPN - the only remaining one I can find) refers to none other than Larry Johnson. I happen to think that Lendale's ceiling is around what Larry Johnson has shown. Laugh if you will, but I'm talking about potential here. Obviously he's got work to do and if the doubts about his work ethic prove valid, he'll never reach that potential or anywhere close. I do think, however, that his considerable talent is all too easily overlooked amongst the prevalent "fatdale" references.

 

[nightmare]

O.K. Let's say L White gets his act together, earns the "starting" job by being a good NFL RB.

What's that really worth(fantasy) on a RBBC team? Jones/Benson type split?

or Addai/Rhodes? Couple that with V Young at the goal line can you draft ANY Titan RB

as an RB3? I'd consider taking my chances with Green bay's rb dilemma over this.

 

[redman]

O.K. Let's say L White gets his act together, earns the "starting" job by being a good NFL RB. What's that really worth(fantasy) on a RBBC team? Jones/Benson type split? or Addai/Rhodes? Couple that with V Young at the goal line can you draft ANY Titan RB as an RB3? I'd consider taking my chances with Green bay's rb dilemma over this.

I agree that VY's propensity to run hurts White's goalline value, but I also think that Brandon Jackson is a greater threat to Morency's carries than Chris Henry is to Lendale's carries, though that's not a conclusion I'm afraid to change as training camp reveals more about the Titans plans and Henry's talents.

 

[BigJim®]

Uh oh...

WHITE IDLE: Speaking of Southern Cal players, LenDale White did not work Wednesday and won’t go today because of his sore hamstring.“He’s doing fine, but we’ve just decided to hold him out this week,” Fisher said.

from www.nashvillecitypaper.com

 

[Warpig]

Uh oh...

WHITE IDLE: Speaking of Southern Cal players, LenDale White did not work Wednesday and won’t go today because of his sore hamstring.“He’s doing fine, but we’ve just decided to hold him out this week,” Fisher said.

from www.nashvillecitypaper.com

Yeah...his hamstring is sore. Sore from lugging around his fatass all day. What a worthless sac of donkey dung.