Who are your top 3 worst head coaches in the last 30 years? (1 Viewer)

[JohnnyU]

1) Frank Kush - The guy was a tyrant, the players hated him, and he couldn't coach.

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| Reg. Season | Playoffs |

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| Year TM | W L T | W L |

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| 1982 bal | 0 8 1 | 0 0 |

| 1983 bal | 7 9 0 | 0 0 |

| 1984 ind | 4 11 0 | 0 0 |

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| TOTALS | 11 28 1 | 0 0 |

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2) David Shula - his daddy he's not. Shula was in over his head.

3) Rich Kotite - This guy was just an idiot. No two ways about it.

 

[Koya]

Ray Handley should be in there.

 

[Da Guru]

1. Marty Morningweg

2. Marty Morningweg

3. Marty Morningweg

 

[Mungo Burrows]

Rick Venturi 2-17 in two stints as coach. (How he got the 2nd after going 1-10 the first time, we may never know)

 

[Pip's Invitation]

Ray Handley

Rich Kotite

Marty Moronweg

 

[avoiding injuries]

Steve Spurrior

Art Shell

Denny Green

 

[John Maddens Lunchbox]

Steve SpurriorArt ShellDenny Green

Very funny, multiple playoff appearances for Shell & Green and probable career winning records. Much worse than the others mentioned above

 

[Fla\/\/ed]

Wayne Fontes

and Mike McCarthy gets a mention for calling a slant pattern on 1st and Goal from the one yardline.

 

[avoiding injuries]

Steve SpurriorArt ShellDenny Green

Very funny, multiple playoff appearances for Shell & Green and probable career winning records. Much worse than the others mentioned above

You're right. I'd keep Spurrier on there, but Shell and Green are b/c of this year. See what happens when you try to comment on times before you were born...

 

[commisholio]

Dennis Erickson belongs in this conversation.

 

[xenon]

Marty Mornigweigh

Daryl Rogers

Wayne Fontes

All Lions coaches

 

[Warhogs]

No Barry switzer love? He had a ton of talent on his squads and had some success but sometimes his decisions were head sctrachers.

Les Steckel?

 

[JohnDoe]

Rod Rust

**** McPherson

Marion Campbell

 

[John Maddens Lunchbox]

Steve SpurriorArt ShellDenny Green

Very funny, multiple playoff appearances for Shell & Green and probable career winning records. Much worse than the others mentioned above

You're right. I'd keep Spurrier on there, but Shell and Green are b/c of this year. See what happens when you try to comment on times before you were born...

Green made the NFC Championships twice in the late 90sShell made the playoffs multiple times in the late 80s & early 90s?How old are you?Spurrier wasn't a good NFL coach, but there have been much worse listed over the course of the last 30 years

 

[Kevin Ashcraft]

Paul Wiggin - replaced Hank Stram in KC---horrible selection

Lindy Infante

Dave McGinnis

David Shula

Bruce Coslet

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Wanny took a playoff contender in Chicago and set them back 5-10 years. He took a playoff team in Miami and ran them in the ground, set them back 5-10 years. He has to be up at the top of the list. Followed in Ditka and Jimmy Johnson's shoes...he really stunk.

 

[Warhogs]

Wanny took a playoff contender in Chicago and set them back 5-10 years. He took a playoff team in Miami and ran them in the ground, set them back 5-10 years. He has to be up at the top of the list. Followed in Ditka and Jimmy Johnson's shoes...he really stunk.

This is a pretty good choice.

 

[DCThunder]

Ritchie Pettibone deserves at least an honorable mention in this discussion. His one season as head man of the Redskins was the beginning of the collapse into the dregs of the Norv Turner years from which the team still hasn't totally emerged.

 

[avoiding injuries]

Steve SpurriorArt ShellDenny Green

Very funny, multiple playoff appearances for Shell & Green and probable career winning records. Much worse than the others mentioned above

You're right. I'd keep Spurrier on there, but Shell and Green are b/c of this year. See what happens when you try to comment on times before you were born...

Green made the NFC Championships twice in the late 90sShell made the playoffs multiple times in the late 80s & early 90s?How old are you?Spurrier wasn't a good NFL coach, but there have been much worse listed over the course of the last 30 years

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[Mr. Sparkle]

Rich Kotite

Bruce Coslet

Joe Walton

 

[ExtremeFajita]

Let's take a moment to remember Hank Bullough: career 4-18 record. His most inspirational moment as a head coach came in 1986 when the Bills defense (allegedly) purposely layed down to a winless Tampa Bay team in order to get him fired. Bruce Smith personally vowed to physically harm any Bill who made a tackle behind the line of scrimmage.

Edited: Just rechecked my facts. Tampa was not winless...they were 1-7 going into the game. They averaged 13.7 ppg that year in their other 15 games...scored 34 that day vs. Buffalo.

 

[Slinger]

Wanny took a playoff contender in Chicago and set them back 5-10 years. He took a playoff team in Miami and ran them in the ground, set them back 5-10 years. He has to be up at the top of the list. Followed in Ditka and Jimmy Johnson's shoes...he really stunk.

Excellent choice.Steve Spurrier was also a good choice IMO. The fact that he was bringing in former Gators with no business of being in the NFL does it for me.

 

[Bri]

Ray Handley should be in there.

I used to be certain about this and completely agree with you. Now, years later, I'm a little on the fence. He lost alot of talent didn't he? between Supe and following year. Also post Superbowl some teams just have all the worst luck in the world and that's a real weird NFL occurence. I can't explain that and it kinda stinks someone loses their job due to that. All BPs other staffers have done pretty well IMO so I wonder about Ray now. If the G-men gave him another year would he have gotten his sh together and the team?I guess I wanna bash the guy but sorta feel bad for him. Seemed like a real quick hook

 

[Slinger]

Let's take a moment to remember Hank Bullough: career 4-18 record. His most inspirational moment as a head coach came in 1986 when the Bills defense (allegedly) purposely layed down to a winless Tampa Bay team in order to get him fired. Bruce Smith personally vowed to physically harm any Bill who made a tackle behind the line of scrimmage.

I would love to watch that game now.

 

[Lefty27]

Dave Wannestedt - he killed two franchises as head coach; the Bears and Dolphins. One of those good coordinators, awful head coaches.

Rich Kotite - talk about a clueless coach, this guy had no idea or plan. His only legacy are those cheap windbreakers and that '80's baseball cap (with the mesh on 4 of the panels).

Les Steckel - yuk

 

[Bri]

Rich KotiteBruce CosletJoe Walton

I can understand Kotite and Coslet(though Coslet, was a decent O cooridinator or X's+O's guy) they didn't win.Why Joe?IIRC He was the Jets coach when they were a good team in the mid 80s. Giants were awesome in 86 and overshadowed the Jets but I'm pretty sure they were very very good the year before or two years before. Freeman could run, decent WRs, underrated TE, "sack exchange" I remember them as a real good team.

 

[Bri]

Lindy Infante

Didn't this poor guy not get the chance to be a HC til he was like 90 years old or somesuch?

 

[nygiants56]

Ray Rhodes

john mckay

**** jauron

bart starr

butch davis

norv turner

DAVE WANNSTEDT

 

[JohnnyU]

Steve Spurrier was also a good choice IMO. The fact that he was bringing in former Gators with no business of being in the NFL does it for me.

Steve Spurrier = Rick Pitino.

 

[menobrown]

No Barry switzer love? He had a ton of talent on his squads and had some success but sometimes his decisions were head sctrachers.

He might head the list of worst coaches to ever win a SB but I don't think you can include a SB winning coach as one of the worst all time.

 

[Workhorse]

Rod Rust gets another vote.

How about June Jones? Or Frank Ganz? Anyone remember him?

 

[moleculo]

Wanny took a playoff contender in Chicago and set them back 5-10 years. He took a playoff team in Miami and ran them in the ground, set them back 5-10 years. He has to be up at the top of the list. Followed in Ditka and Jimmy Johnson's shoes...he really stunk.

this is an excellent observation. Wanny won enough games that he could do some real damage by depleting the talent pool for years to come. If he had gone 2-14 for several consecutive years, he wouldn't have had the opprutunity to trade away high draft picks for questionable players year after year. He actually sucked more by sucking less.

 

[redman]

Ritchie Pettibone deserves at least an honorable mention in this discussion. His one season as head man of the Redskins was the beginning of the collapse into the dregs of the Norv Turner years from which the team still hasn't totally emerged.

It was a God-awful season to be sure and he's certainly not head coaching material, but that was a team with a lot of age on it and that was not prepared to deal with the inauguration of the salary cap that season. I'd put Spurrier ahead of Petitbone. Lou Holtz belongs in this discussion from when he coached the Jets.

 

[Delusions Of Adequacy]

Wanny took a playoff contender in Chicago and set them back 5-10 years. He took a playoff team in Miami and ran them in the ground, set them back 5-10 years. He has to be up at the top of the list. Followed in Ditka and Jimmy Johnson's shoes...he really stunk.

Excellent choice.Steve Spurrier was also a good choice IMO. The fact that he was bringing in former Gators with no business of being in the NFL does it for me.

Let's also remember that Spurrier expected to succeed as a coach in the NFL working an 8-hour day...

 

[doughboydeluxe]

Don't forget Dave Campo.

 

[redman]

Wanny took a playoff contender in Chicago and set them back 5-10 years. He took a playoff team in Miami and ran them in the ground, set them back 5-10 years. He has to be up at the top of the list. Followed in Ditka and Jimmy Johnson's shoes...he really stunk.

Excellent choice.Steve Spurrier was also a good choice IMO. The fact that he was bringing in former Gators with no business of being in the NFL does it for me.

Let's also remember that Spurrier expected to succeed as a coach in the NFL working an 8-hour day...

 

[menobrown]

Don't forget Dave Campo.

Did he really do that bad of a job? The talent level was horrible when he was the coach and even Parcells has not been able to win a playoff game with that group and he's upgraded the talent.

 

[azgroover]

Chris Palmer was 5-27

 

[Vikes Fan]

Les Steckel has got to be right up there! (He too was a good OC.)

Kotite comes to mind as well.

Lou Holtz qualify in the same vain as Spurrier?

 

[NYCGangGreen]

Rich Kotite.....1-15 season pretty much sums it up.

Art Shell For putting a team this bad out there, and giving that painful post-game interview,

And Rich F****ng Kotite......Damn I hate him!

 

[Canowupass]

Steve Spurrior

Art Shell

Denny Green

Very funny, multiple playoff appearances for Shell & Green and probable career winning records. Much worse than the others mentioned above

You're right. I'd keep Spurrier on there, but Shell and Green are b/c of this year. See what happens when you try to comment on times before you were born...

Green made the NFC Championships twice in the late 90sShell made the playoffs multiple times in the late 80s & early 90s?

How old are you?

Spurrier wasn't a good NFL coach, but there have been much worse listed over the course of the last 30 years

I'll second the Denny vote. You're forgetting THE KNEE. This is from ESPN (emphasis mine):"The Vikings and Falcons are tied at 27 in the NFC Championship Game on Jan. 17, 1999. Vikings ball, 30 seconds on the clock, third-and-three on their own 30 yard line. Minnesota still has two timeouts remaining, Falcons have none. Vikings have the most explosive offense in NFL history. But Green decides to play it safe, and runs out the clock. He's got Randall Cunningham at QB, Randy Moss at wideout, and a pretty good chance to get the NFL's best placekicker a shot at a game-winner. But instead, Green orders Cunningham to take a knee, hoping the Vikes will get the coin flip in OT. They do win the flip, but Atlanta scores first and wins, 30-27.

 

[Osaurus]

Dennis Erickson belongs in this conversation.

This guy even stunk up Wyoming (and that is saying something).I also saw Ray Rhodes. Worst evah!!!!!

 

[NYCGangGreen]

How about Bill Callahan???

"We have to be the dumbest team in football!" - thats the true making of a great coach.

 

[EdwardCat]

Steve SpurriorArt ShellDenny Green

Knee jerk reactions to this year's results, no doubt.

 

[nola]

Can we divide careers up between teams? Because Ditka part II with the Saints was one of the worst jobs ever, especially when you look at the personnel decisions (Ricky Williams)

 

[Delusions Of Adequacy]

Steve Spurrior

Art Shell

Denny Green

Very funny, multiple playoff appearances for Shell & Green and probable career winning records. Much worse than the others mentioned above

You're right. I'd keep Spurrier on there, but Shell and Green are b/c of this year. See what happens when you try to comment on times before you were born...

Green made the NFC Championships twice in the late 90sShell made the playoffs multiple times in the late 80s & early 90s?

How old are you?

Spurrier wasn't a good NFL coach, but there have been much worse listed over the course of the last 30 years

I'll second the Denny vote. You're forgetting THE KNEE. This is from ESPN (emphasis mine):"The Vikings and Falcons are tied at 27 in the NFC Championship Game on Jan. 17, 1999. Vikings ball, 30 seconds on the clock, third-and-three on their own 30 yard line. Minnesota still has two timeouts remaining, Falcons have none. Vikings have the most explosive offense in NFL history. But Green decides to play it safe, and runs out the clock. He's got Randall Cunningham at QB, Randy Moss at wideout, and a pretty good chance to get the NFL's best placekicker a shot at a game-winner. But instead, Green orders Cunningham to take a knee, hoping the Vikes will get the coin flip in OT. They do win the flip, but Atlanta scores first and wins, 30-27.

I remember screaming at the tv when Cunninham took a knee.One of the more boneheaded moves in playoff history. Doesn't put Green on the all-time worst coach though. The fact that he was in an nfl championship game more or less eliminates him by itself.

 

[EdwardCat]

Steve Spurrior

Art Shell

Denny Green

Very funny, multiple playoff appearances for Shell & Green and probable career winning records. Much worse than the others mentioned above

You're right. I'd keep Spurrier on there, but Shell and Green are b/c of this year. See what happens when you try to comment on times before you were born...

Green made the NFC Championships twice in the late 90sShell made the playoffs multiple times in the late 80s & early 90s?

How old are you?

Spurrier wasn't a good NFL coach, but there have been much worse listed over the course of the last 30 years

I'll second the Denny vote. You're forgetting THE KNEE. This is from ESPN (emphasis mine):"The Vikings and Falcons are tied at 27 in the NFC Championship Game on Jan. 17, 1999. Vikings ball, 30 seconds on the clock, third-and-three on their own 30 yard line. Minnesota still has two timeouts remaining, Falcons have none. Vikings have the most explosive offense in NFL history. But Green decides to play it safe, and runs out the clock. He's got Randall Cunningham at QB, Randy Moss at wideout, and a pretty good chance to get the NFL's best placekicker a shot at a game-winner. But instead, Green orders Cunningham to take a knee, hoping the Vikes will get the coin flip in OT. They do win the flip, but Atlanta scores first and wins, 30-27.

The NFL's best place kicker that year missed a FG in overtime. It was well within his range and indoors. There were a lot of mistakes on the part of Vikings players during that game. Robert Smith ran out of bounds while they were trying to run the clock down towards the end of the 4th quarter giving Atlanta a chance to get the ball back.

 

[MLBrandow]

I wasn't alive for all of the last 30 years, but Marty Morningweg definitely comes to mind.

 

[fatness]

Steve Spurrier

Steve Spurrier

Steve Spurrier

Can I list a fourth?

Steve Spurrier

 

[Tom Baker]

My hatred of Steve Mariucci runs strong and deep.