Who can you give to get Gronkowski in a straight up trade? (1 Viewer)

[BuffaloWings]

So, now that Aaron Hernandez is out 6+ weeks, I imagine many are in desperate need for a tight end. A logical place to begin looking is to try to trade for Gronk. So which players could you dangle out there as carrots that could get you Gronk in a straight up trade?

Does the RB list start at somebody like McFadden? Does the WR list start at somebody like Julio Jones? Does QB list start at somebody like Cam?

 

[TheFootballJesus]

I don't have Hernandez in any leagues but if I did, I don't think I would try to go out and get another stud, especially since it seems like he will be coming back this season.

Think I would go to the waiver wire, or buy low on another TE. I still think that Fred Davis is going to have some kind of a role in the Redskins offense, Kyle Rudolph seems to be promising, and Dante Rosario is an intriguing play if Gates is out again.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

Yes, when your starting top-5 TE is out for a significant amount of time, the logical move is to trade for one of the top-2, nearly untouchable guys...especially the one who will actually BENEFIT and be worth MORE with your injured starter out. Totally logical.

 

[footballnerd]

I don't think you could get him. If he was nearly a 1st rounder with Hernandez in, what is he without him?

 

[BuffaloWings]

I don't think you could get him. If he was nearly a 1st rounder with Hernandez in, what is he without him?

Exactly the point of my posed question. Despite the asinine sarcasm by ConnSKINS26, my question has merit. In a 12-team league, the TE pool isn't very good. There are the top-5 (or now top-4) and then pretty much everyone else. Hell, it may only be the top-3 now given Gates' situation. So, my question still stands. Can you trade any one player to get Gronk now? Maybe you can't and you have to bundle some great players to get him -- and, in the end, that may just not be worth it and you just try your luck with the depleted waiver wire. Maybe you get lucky and get Scott Chandler.

 

[Lascelle]

I don't think you could get him. If he was nearly a 1st rounder with Hernandez in, what is he without him?

Clearly he's worth Arian Foster plus a 1st round draft pick in 2013.Getting Scott Chandler is now considered lucky?

 

[12punch]

chris johnson was a first rounder -- maybe trade him for gronk.

if you don't have him, offer the johnson owner jackie battle, or someone comparable.

 

[BuffaloWings]

I don't think you could get him. If he was nearly a 1st rounder with Hernandez in, what is he without him?

Clearly he's worth Arian Foster plus a 1st round draft pick in 2013.Getting Scott Chandler is now considered lucky?

It's called sarcasm and hence that is why I am asking this question.....

 

[BuffaloWings]

So the absurd and asinine now come out of the woodwork talking about Jackie Battle and the like... it becomes quite obvious the level of critical thinking in fantasy football is low by some people.

Let's put it this way, if a hypothetical Hernandez team had the following at RB:

McCoy

Gore

Spiller (got him late in the draft)

Ridley

Morris (off of waiver)

Are you saying that you wouldn't take McCoy straight up for Gronkowski? Because given the depth that this team has a RB, that is a perfectly logical trade to propose.

 

[N Zone]

I wish I was in your league and owned Gronk so I could get a top 5 overall player like McCoy or Julio Jones. Wow.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

So the absurd and asinine now come out of the woodwork talking about Jackie Battle and the like... it becomes quite obvious the level of critical thinking in fantasy football is low by some people.Let's put it this way, if a hypothetical Hernandez team had the following at RB:McCoyGoreSpiller (got him late in the draft)RidleyMorris (off of waiver)Are you saying that you wouldn't take McCoy straight up for Gronkowski? Because given the depth that this team has a RB, that is a perfectly logical trade to propose.

No, it's really not. With the precarious situations some of those RB's are in, you'd be an idiot to trade McCoy for Gronk after losing Hernandez for 4-6 weeks. You lose a top-5 TE to injury, you don't run out and trade a needed stud from another position to acquire yet another top-5 TE who is even MORE expensive and whose value only goes up with the injury to your original player. You have to get more creative than that, or youre just paying twice as much for that elite TE production at the expense of the rest of your lineup. Those 5 RB's might look deep right now, but theres a very high chance they won't by week 8-10, if not earlier. Trading the best, most consistent and reliable option out of the group to chase an elite TE after losing one to injury is not smart.My first response wasn't "asinine", it was realistic. There is no logic to your idea whatsoever.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Dynasty 2 PPR TEs...just traded Foster and a 2nd for Gronk and a 1st.

 

[therush]

Is there a backup who could step in and play the Hernandez role?

 

[BuffaloWings]

So the absurd and asinine now come out of the woodwork talking about Jackie Battle and the like... it becomes quite obvious the level of critical thinking in fantasy football is low by some people.Let's put it this way, if a hypothetical Hernandez team had the following at RB:McCoyGoreSpiller (got him late in the draft)RidleyMorris (off of waiver)Are you saying that you wouldn't take McCoy straight up for Gronkowski? Because given the depth that this team has a RB, that is a perfectly logical trade to propose.

No, it's really not. With the precarious situations some of those RB's are in, you'd be an idiot to trade McCoy for Gronk after losing Hernandez for 4-6 weeks. You lose a top-5 TE to injury, you don't run out and trade a needed stud from another position to acquire yet another top-5 TE who is even MORE expensive and whose value only goes up with the injury to your original player. You have to get more creative than that, or youre just paying twice as much for that elite TE production at the expense of the rest of your lineup. Those 5 RB's might look deep right now, but theres a very high chance they won't by week 8-10, if not earlier. Trading the best, most consistent and reliable option out of the group to chase an elite TE after losing one to injury is not smart.My first response wasn't "asinine", it was realistic. There is no logic to your idea whatsoever.

OK, it was *sarcastically asinine*. It really is not outside the realm of reality to think that a team of Gore/Spiller at RB (with Ridley and Morris backup) + Gronk would OUTSCORE a team of McCoy/Spiller or Gore + someone like Kellen Davis. It certainly is quite logical to at least think about it.

 

[BuffaloWings]

Dynasty 2 PPR TEs...just traded Foster and a 2nd for Gronk and a 1st.

If this is true, then that is the sort of move I can certainly seem as logical depending on your current depth at RB.

 

[footballnerd]

I don't think you could get him. If he was nearly a 1st rounder with Hernandez in, what is he without him?

Clearly he's worth Arian Foster plus a 1st round draft pick in 2013.Getting Scott Chandler is now considered lucky?

Exactly, no one is gonna do that. so yes, you probably can't trade one for one unless you're willing to do the unthinkable. I would go after Celek or Bennett on the wire who have pretty good potential rather than try to pry gronk from a very happy owner.

 

[Short Corner]

Who is Gronkowski?

 

[BigTex]

Didn't NE sign a decent TE recently? I'd think he'd be the one to go after.

 

[Jewell]

Who is Gronkowski?

Patriots Tight End

 

[Short Corner]

Who is Gronkowski?

Patriots Tight End

Oh, yo mean the guy who was a low first- high second? Yeah, that guy was totally off my radar.

 

[12punch]

So the absurd and asinine now come out of the woodwork talking about Jackie Battle and the like... it becomes quite obvious the level of critical thinking in fantasy football is low by some people.Let's put it this way, if a hypothetical Hernandez team had the following at RB:McCoyGoreSpiller (got him late in the draft)RidleyMorris (off of waiver)Are you saying that you wouldn't take McCoy straight up for Gronkowski? Because given the depth that this team has a RB, that is a perfectly logical trade to propose.

Hypothetically speaking, i think there's a forum for this

 

[simey]

So, now that Aaron Hernandez is out 6+ weeks, I imagine many are in desperate need for a tight end. A logical place to begin looking is to try to trade for Gronk. So which players could you dangle out there as carrots that could get you Gronk in a straight up trade?

I'll be picking up Celek from the WW. He was dropped last week for Bennett, and I'll use him in place of Hernandez.

 

[solorca]

Instead of getting angry at the sarcasm, made you should read between the lines and see the response you've been getting from everyone. Don't trade a top level RB for Gronk, especially when you have Aaron Hernandez back in 4-6 weeks. If I own Ray Rice and he has a high ankle sprain, my first thought isn't to kill my depth to try to pick up Lesean McCoy.

If you must make a trade, see if you can get someone like Kyle Rudolph, Dennis Pitta, or Brent Celek. All of them have been playing well, but are possibly backup options on other teams that would be willing to sell them for a reasonable amount.

 

[Sinn Fein]

I don't see a trade with Gronk happening for most teams.

What is the team with Gronk going to do for a TE after the trade? Unless they have a good back-up, why give up the advantage you get at TE to another team?

 

[12punch]

trade for Graham

 

[dickey moe]

Is there a backup who could step in and play the Hernandez role?

Could Winslow get another call?

 

[dickey moe]

I don't see a trade with Gronk happening for most teams.What is the team with Gronk going to do for a TE after the trade? Unless they have a good back-up, why give up the advantage you get at TE to another team?

I happen to own both Gronk and Graham in a Keep 2 league and I'm considering moving Gronk for a WR1 (my WRs are really weak).

 

[Banger]

It would take a lot. Not sure why it has to be a 1 for 1 trade but right now I'd say Gronk is probably worth a Doug Martin or similar 10ish RB. He's clearly the red zone target on the Pats but right now I'd have to say I am a big concerned with Pats offense overall. I didn't anticipate them struggling like they are. It could just be the defenses they've faced so far but it's something I'm certainly watching closely.

If there is one player now in that entire offense that I'd want to own it would be Gronk.

 

[BuffaloWings]

So the absurd and asinine now come out of the woodwork talking about Jackie Battle and the like... it becomes quite obvious the level of critical thinking in fantasy football is low by some people.Let's put it this way, if a hypothetical Hernandez team had the following at RB:McCoyGoreSpiller (got him late in the draft)RidleyMorris (off of waiver)Are you saying that you wouldn't take McCoy straight up for Gronkowski? Because given the depth that this team has a RB, that is a perfectly logical trade to propose.

Hypothetically speaking, i think there's a forum for this

Realistically speaking, I have no team with those set of running backs. 10% of the fantasy owners in the country are affected by the Hernandez injury.

I don't see a trade with Gronk happening for most teams.What is the team with Gronk going to do for a TE after the trade? Unless they have a good back-up, why give up the advantage you get at TE to another team?

I happen to own both Gronk and Graham in a Keep 2 league and I'm considering moving Gronk for a WR1 (my WRs are really weak).

Exactly. If someone has WR strength but their starting TE is now Owen Daniels, they might trade a big WR for Gronk. These people who say that it is illogical to make such a trade are not thinking it through very much, I don't think. They are just being contrarian for the sake of being contrary.

 

[Bad_Mo]

You can't get him for any one guy that you'd want to give up.

 

[BuffaloWings]

You can't get him for any one guy that you'd want to give up.

Possibly. But let's say that a team's best starting RB is Willis McGahee because the owner went WR, TE, QB, WR in the draft. The owner has someone like Tamme as a backup TE. I bet he/she would at least think about someone like a McFadden or Murray for Gronk. Maybe won't take it, but it is something that deserves consideration.

 

[Bad_Mo]

You can't get him for any one guy that you'd want to give up.

Possibly. But let's say that a team's best starting RB is Willis McGahee because the owner went WR, TE, QB, WR in the draft. The owner has someone like Tamme as a backup TE. I bet he/she would at least think about someone like a McFadden or Murray for Gronk. Maybe won't take it, but it is something that deserves consideration.

Maybe...but I'm not sure what owner would give up Gronk for either of those two RBs you mentioned especially given their durability concerns. You'd have to give up Rice, McCoy or Daryl Richardson to get the best TE in football especially with Hernandez out, IMO.

 

[BuffaloWings]

You can't get him for any one guy that you'd want to give up.

Possibly. But let's say that a team's best starting RB is Willis McGahee because the owner went WR, TE, QB, WR in the draft. The owner has someone like Tamme as a backup TE. I bet he/she would at least think about someone like a McFadden or Murray for Gronk. Maybe won't take it, but it is something that deserves consideration.

Maybe...but I'm not sure what owner would give up Gronk for either of those two RBs you mentioned especially given their durability concerns. You'd have to give up Rice, McCoy or Daryl Richardson to get the best TE in football especially with Hernandez out, IMO.

Daryl Richardson

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

Happy to own jimmy graham in all my leagues.

I know this adds nothing, but just wanted to say it...

 

[Bad_Mo]

You can't get him for any one guy that you'd want to give up.

Possibly. But let's say that a team's best starting RB is Willis McGahee because the owner went WR, TE, QB, WR in the draft. The owner has someone like Tamme as a backup TE. I bet he/she would at least think about someone like a McFadden or Murray for Gronk. Maybe won't take it, but it is something that deserves consideration.

Maybe...but I'm not sure what owner would give up Gronk for either of those two RBs you mentioned especially given their durability concerns. You'd have to give up Rice, McCoy or Daryl Richardson to get the best TE in football especially with Hernandez out, IMO.

Daryl Richardson

I see you caught that piece of sarcasm.

 

[meatwad1]

I don't think you could get him. If he was nearly a 1st rounder with Hernandez in, what is he without him?

Exactly the point of my posed question. Despite the asinine sarcasm by ConnSKINS26, my question has merit. In a 12-team league, the TE pool isn't very good. There are the top-5 (or now top-4) and then pretty much everyone else. Hell, it may only be the top-3 now given Gates' situation. So, my question still stands. Can you trade any one player to get Gronk now? Maybe you can't and you have to bundle some great players to get him -- and, in the end, that may just not be worth it and you just try your luck with the depleted waiver wire. Maybe you get lucky and get Scott Chandler.

I am going to try and trade ARod and Pitta for Gronk and Vick this week.

 

[BuffaloWings]

I am going to try and trade ARod and Pitta for Gronk and Vick this week.

i hope that works out for you....

 

[Insein]

Yes, when your starting top-5 TE is out for a significant amount of time, the logical move is to trade for one of the top-2, nearly untouchable guys...especially the one who will actually BENEFIT and be worth MORE with your injured starter out. Totally logical.

Thought I was the only one.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Dynasty 2 PPR TEs...just traded Foster and a 2nd for Gronk and a 1st.

If this is true, then that is the sort of move I can certainly seem as logical depending on your current depth at RB.

I had a couple other pieces there but you have to remember that now I have 2 1st round picks if I want to go out and trade for another RB, except now I have a very good TE in a TE heavy league where I had none. It was an aggressive trade but I think in order to make trades work there has to be some pain on both sides. If not, the deal is going to be too slanted and then nothing gets done.The trading partner had a couple of other very nice TEs like Kyle Rudolph in the cuts, I had a barren cupboard at TE.

 

[QuizGuy66]

So the absurd and asinine now come out of the woodwork talking about Jackie Battle and the like... it becomes quite obvious the level of critical thinking in fantasy football is low by some people.Let's put it this way, if a hypothetical Hernandez team had the following at RB:McCoyGoreSpiller (got him late in the draft)RidleyMorris (off of waiver)Are you saying that you wouldn't take McCoy straight up for Gronkowski? Because given the depth that this team has a RB, that is a perfectly logical trade to propose.

My team is similar enough (and I've lost Hernandez).My RBs - McCoy, ADP, Spiller (via waivers ), Benson, IngramMy TEs - Hernandez, GonzalezI would not trade McCoy for Gronk In terms of making up Hernandez's production, I think the winners are Welker and Edelman btw - not so much Gronk.-QG

 

[Rovers]

What did Gronk do after Hernandez was injured? Not a whole lot. His injury may actually hurt Gronk's value.

Of course, now BB has a week to develop an offense that doesn't rely on a base two TE set, but will it work? The Pats went to a 3 WR set after the injury, and it wasn't effective.

Losing Hernandez requires a revamping of the NE offense. If anyone can pull it off, it's Belichick. If he can remains to be seen.