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Who has the cojones to start Plummer this week (1 Viewer)
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Keys Myaths
Pokerguy
As I've said in other threads, Plummer has games like last week every once in a while.
He'll be fine.
He'll be fine.
G-Money
Footballguy
You must be in the same boat as me, didn't take a QB before round 8?? On almost all my teams, I've got variations of Plummer, Bledsoe, Delhomme, Green, and even Brooks. I now have Alex Smith added as a QB3 to almost all of them, and am considering starting him in several leagues. With that being said, I think I'm giving Plummer one more shot this weekend before I hit the panic button.
Restricted
Footballguy
It's either him of Favre. I'm gonna go Plummer.
KnowledgeReignsSupreme
Footballguy
On the one team I own him, I plan to stick with him.
The Shizzle
Footballguy
Im stuck.
I think I'm going with Vick at home v. Tampa Bay.
I think I'm going with Vick at home v. Tampa Bay.
Kevin Ashcraft
Footballguy
one word: Bootleg
Plummer may get 50 yards rushing as KC NEVER has defended the Denver QB bootleg. Kubiak took it to HOU and Carr ran for a bunch against KC this preseason.
Plummer may throw 2-3 INTs but I bet he gets 1-2 TDs and 40-60 rushing yards as well.
Plummer may get 50 yards rushing as KC NEVER has defended the Denver QB bootleg. Kubiak took it to HOU and Carr ran for a bunch against KC this preseason.
Plummer may throw 2-3 INTs but I bet he gets 1-2 TDs and 40-60 rushing yards as well.
nathanbalboa
Footballguy
I don't have any better options (Brooks) but I'm not really worried about Plummer. He's got a long enough history in Denver to be able to reasonably expect 3400 passing yards, 20 td's and another couple td's rushing. With Walker in Denver, I wouldn't be suprised to see his numbers increase. One game hasn't changed my thoughts on him. Most teams with Plummer at QB are just looking for average weeks from their QB's...Plummer should be able to fill this need.
Raging Alpaca
Footballguy
I play in a VERY competitve 12 team league, and, somewhat suprisingly, he got dropped for Pennington. Seems to me to be a overreaction, and I may try to grab him, though I already have McNabb and Big Ben.
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msommer
Footballguy
Harry Beanbag
Sausage King of Chicago
Snake is my No. 1 with Kitna my No. 2. (Waited very late to draft a QB getting lots of value at RB and WR) Plummer vs. KC or Kitna vs. the Bears D. 
I'll take my chances with Plummer rebounding this week.
I'll take my chances with Plummer rebounding this week.
None_More_Black
Footballguy
Same decision, still thinking. Vick at home is pretty reliable but Jake at home is usually pretty good as well. I think Denver-KC will be a runfest so I might go with vick
i traded him away today straight up for terry glenn.
my qb going forward is now phillip rivers. i'd rather take a consistent 10-15 pts from rivers than the -3 i got from plummer last week.
one more game like this and jake the snake will be warming cutler's bench.
my qb going forward is now phillip rivers. i'd rather take a consistent 10-15 pts from rivers than the -3 i got from plummer last week.
one more game like this and jake the snake will be warming cutler's bench.
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Keys Myaths
Pokerguy
I just did the same.
facook
Footballguy
Historically, Tampa has frustrated Vick. I'm banking on him making smarter decisions in the passing game (this is a scary thought, I know) and having more success running against an aging, less speedy Tampa defense. Really this decision comes down to: Who scares me less? Right now it's Vick.
videoguy505
Footballguy
100% SURE. Without a doubt! Not even going to think twice!
(instead of Brooks vs BAL
)
(instead of Brooks vs BAL
)
Grigs Allmoon
Footballguy
I'm not sure it's a huge risk... I'd start him over about 22-25 other QBs this week.
Grigs Allmoon
Footballguy
I like Vick this year. (I have him as my #1 in one league) But, I'd go with Plummer. He's the safer pick. One bad week doesn't mean much to a vet like Plummer. Like he said... He's bounced back from much worse games.
The Jacket
Footballguy
The Chiefs allowed 116 yards, but at only 3.4 yards per carry.If you're going to come at me with the, "they knew the run was coming which explains the low ypc number", then you have no grounds to point out the total yards, either, because obviously there were a ton of runs.
I don't think the Chiefs were "unable to stop the run".
Of the 30 carries Rudi Johnson and Kenny Watson combined for, 22 of them were for less than 4 yards. There were 2 runs that the Chiefs were, to some degree, unable to stop: a 22-yarder and a 16-yarder, both by Johnson. The remaining 6 carries went for: 4, 5, 5, 4, 8 and 9 yards.
Chad Johnson had 2 reverses that accounted for 14 yards.
Derrick Johnson also had one 5-yard tackle for loss wiped out by a penalty that had no effect on the play (12 men on the field; the 12th man being a lazy lineman who was 5 yards too slow).
This all being said, I think the Broncos will run on the Chiefs. (I just think that last week's performance was hardly troubling.) However, I see this only helping Plummer. Do I think he, Plummer, is a good play? Yes. I wouldn't start him needing 25 points, if I could help it, but I don't see him throwing more than a lone interception, and 200 yards/2 touchdowns would be my guess as to his positive effect on the game.
hellz_fireflies
Footballguy
I do hope Plummer does well soon, he's my backup QB for Peyton Manning- Ind.week6 bye
Week 6 is Denver at home against Oakland
Week 6 is Denver at home against Oakland
The Kansas Comet
Footballguy
:X I feel your pain as I am in the same situation.
I doubt the 2-3 INTs part, but the bootleg part is seriously
. Denver's passing offense is based entirely on getting Jake out of the pocket. Last week, Jake spent most of the game in the pocket. Kansas City has an extremely aggressive young defense, and Denver always positively TORCHES them once they get the bootleg going. I don't expect him to rush for 50, but I don't think he'll have any problem passing for 250/2 against a defense playing the entire game out of position.
Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll
Footballguy
First, drop that sig. Then, start him.
Dr. Pepper
Footballguy
not like he is playing bal or some other quality defense..
he is at home..
it is the chiefs...
he will crush it...
he is at home..
it is the chiefs...
he will crush it...
According to Football Outsiders, KC had the 12th ranked defense last year (although it was much stronger against the run than against the pass). They were also 5th in weighted DVOA (i.e. they finished the season extremely strong), and they are also projected to have the 4th best defense in the league this season. Just FWIW. I do agree that Denver has KC's number, though.
Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll
Footballguy
4th best?!!! I'll eat my hat if that happens.
teamramrod
Footballguy
I feel lucky that I have an option. Benching him to start Brees vs the Packers INTENSE D 
The Jacket
Footballguy
They didn't get off to such a bad start, and that's with getting one of the top three offenses in football out of the way. They'll get the Oakland's and the San Francisco's to help pad their defensive statistics.
Last year Vick got 306yds; 2 TDs and zero ints at home vs TBI would take that again. I have him starting over Plummer
cr8f
Footballguy
What was the score against Green Bay last season?I feel lucky that I have an option. Benching him to start Brees vs the Packers INTENSE D
mistersmith
Footballguy
Plummer vs KC (Home)
NAME POS YR CMP ATT PYD Y/A FD PTD INT RSH RSHYD YD/RSH FD RSHTD FANT PT
Jake Plummer qb 2003 20 29 238 8.21 15 1 0 2 11 5.50 2 0 17.00
Jake Plummer qb 2004 18 29 230 7.93 11 2 2 8 23 2.88 3 0 19.80
Jake Plummer qb 2005 13 18 152 8.44 9 1 0 5 9 1.80 2 1 18.50
Another thing to keep in mind is KC will be starting Huard at QB. Broncos should start out with better field position on average thus more red zone opportunities. However, the odds of it becoming a high scoring affair with Damon Huard as QB for the Chiefs will be pretty slim. I see less passing yards for Jake but hopefully an increased chance to score more tds will make up for it.
NAME POS YR CMP ATT PYD Y/A FD PTD INT RSH RSHYD YD/RSH FD RSHTD FANT PT
Jake Plummer qb 2003 20 29 238 8.21 15 1 0 2 11 5.50 2 0 17.00
Jake Plummer qb 2004 18 29 230 7.93 11 2 2 8 23 2.88 3 0 19.80
Jake Plummer qb 2005 13 18 152 8.44 9 1 0 5 9 1.80 2 1 18.50
Another thing to keep in mind is KC will be starting Huard at QB. Broncos should start out with better field position on average thus more red zone opportunities. However, the odds of it becoming a high scoring affair with Damon Huard as QB for the Chiefs will be pretty slim. I see less passing yards for Jake but hopefully an increased chance to score more tds will make up for it.
Haha, that wasn't even the most "out there" prediction. Guess who the formula predicted would be #3 this season?The Oakland Raiders. Seriously.
MSULions
Footballguy
who cares? this is this season.What was the score against Green Bay last season?I feel lucky that I have an option. Benching him to start Brees vs the Packers INTENSE D
ScottNorwood
Footballcutie
I'm benching him for Brunell. Bruno looks like a safer play. While Plum has more upside this week, I want to make sure I get positive points out of my QB.
I also think that Dallas has a much softer defense than they get credit for.
I also think that Dallas has a much softer defense than they get credit for.
David Yudkin
Footballguy
Since coming to DEN, his rushing totals vs KC have been:3-22-03-10-08-23-03-26-05-9-11-8-0In 3 other games with ARI against KC:1-8-03-20-00-0-0I'd be shocked if he had 40-60 yards and a TD running the ball, but stranger things have happened.
SaintArnold
Footballguy
I think Plummer bounces back this week. I think Denver will run up the score against a gimped out Chiefs team to show the home crowd they are still good.
