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Who in the first round would you consider a bust? (1 Viewer)
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BoomGoesTheDynamite
Footballguy
I disagree with some of those. Using one of my leagues scoring (.5 PPR)Foster- Stud
Rice-Stud
McCoy-Stud - 15th RB = Bust
Rodgers- Hold - 11th QB = Bust (so far)
Brady- Hold - 4th QB = Stud
Brees- Hold - 3rd QB = Stud
Megatron- Bust? - 6th WR = Stud/Hold (was #1 before this week)
Chris Johnson- Bust
DMAC- Hold/Bust?
Forte- Hold
Mathews (pre injury)- Bust
Graham- Hold
Gronk- Hold
Murray- Hold
ponchsox
Footballguy
Wasn't sure on Brady & Brees since it took a strong week 4 to really pad their season totals but I would imagine weeks 1-3 were a dissapointment.
What scoring are you using?
How is Shady a stud, while Calvin is possibly a bust?
Calvin had one bad/average week, 1 real good week, and 2 solid weeks.
Sitting at around wr7 (based on scoring).
While McCoy is not even in the top 12 RBs.
I'd say Gronk/Graham are living up to expectations thus far.
Rodgers is a low end QB1, and was the concensus QB1 throughout drafts... could be labelled a bust.
Brady/Brees doing just fine though.
How is Shady a stud, while Calvin is possibly a bust?
Calvin had one bad/average week, 1 real good week, and 2 solid weeks.
Sitting at around wr7 (based on scoring).
While McCoy is not even in the top 12 RBs.
I'd say Gronk/Graham are living up to expectations thus far.
Rodgers is a low end QB1, and was the concensus QB1 throughout drafts... could be labelled a bust.
Brady/Brees doing just fine though.
ponchsox
Footballguy
I just wanted to compile a list and get feedback. Maybe their stats are fine but you thought they would be better since they were 1st rounders?
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
Rodgers will keep inching up the QB rankings. Still has detroit X2, Indy, Tenn, Jax, Minny
Pretty rough start for him SF,Chi,@Sea.
Pretty rough start for him SF,Chi,@Sea.
fightingillini
Footballguy
Agree on the big 3 RBs....they have been solidRodgers, Brady and Brees have been mild busts so far....they were drafted to SIGNIFICANTLY outperform the average FF QB.....and haven't so far. That said, Rodgers and Brady have had hard schedules to open the year and Brees will benefit from NO defense being bad. All 3 should be OK, but slightly underperforming their draft slots.Agree on your remaining RBsDisagree on Graham and Gronk - both have shown they are worth a late 1st/early 2nd selection.
BoomGoesTheDynamite
Footballguy
I don't agree with labeling Brees anything but a stud. In one of my leauges he's scored 30,25,25,43. He's ranked 3rd which is where he was drafted. Stafford on the other hand
sporthenry
Footballguy
While I'll agree that the QBs have been a bit of a bust, you are still getting top production. I don't think anybody reasonable expected the 3 to put up record breaking numbers again. That alone dictated they weren't worth first round picks but these guys will still probably finish top 5-7. So you aren't getting the value with your pick which would constitute a bust, but you also still get a productive player. If you waited on QB, you either struck gold with RGIII or Ryan or you are struggling with Rivers and Cutler. So "wasting" a first on a QB might not look that bad when the rest of the 1st round RBs like DMC, CJ or Forte are busts at this point. TE is a similar situation, they aren't outproducing their counterparts at the rate they were rated/drafted but you are still getting a top 5 TE. So you are getting a top 5 player at a usually scarce position while this year it continues to be consistent across the board but again you either struck with Davis or struck out with Finley if you waited.
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ponchsox
Footballguy
Let's revisit. A lot of first round busts so far this year.
Foster- Stud
Rice- Stud
McCoy- Stud/Hold? (Only 3 TDs)
Rodgers- Stud
Brady- Hold
Brees- Stud
Megatron- Bust
Chris Johnson- Bust
DMAC- Bust
Forte- Hold
Mathews- Hold
Graham- Bust
Gronk- Hold
Murray- Bust
Foster- Stud
Rice- Stud
McCoy- Stud/Hold? (Only 3 TDs)
Rodgers- Stud
Brady- Hold
Brees- Stud
Megatron- Bust
Chris Johnson- Bust
DMAC- Bust
Forte- Hold
Mathews- Hold
Graham- Bust
Gronk- Hold
Murray- Bust
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bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
I think its clear that the top4 picks should of been foster-rice-rodgers-brees in some order.
maybe Mccoy gets it turned around.
other than that the first round is meh.
maybe Mccoy gets it turned around.
other than that the first round is meh.
always is. when will we ever learn???
Tanner9919
Footballguy
relative to what guys like Yudkin were saying with regards to Tom Brady ( 5000/55 TDs) , I think you can categorize him as a huge bust.. clearly he isn't going to finish anywhere NEAR that statline...many people drafted him with the idea that McDanielswould put Brady back into 2007-mode , i.e., chuck-n-duck offense, 3-4 TDs/gm, and that just hasn't - and won't - happen.
so with the expectation being that of someone who woulda/coulda/shoulda thrown for 5000+/50+ td, he simply isn't getting it done..
he's producing quality stats ,yes, but stats of a QB like Eli, a guy who was ,what, a 5th/6th rounder? or Peyton, who was even lower on the list..
as for Rice, I'm an owner in two leagues and just feel like the guy is underachieving this year..Cameron has his head up his a^^ with his play calling..the Ravens' offense suddenly looks lost, it's as if they forgot they have one of the two best RB's in the league ( Rice) and they don't want to use him at all..he's only 8th in rushing yards, 3rd in TDs ( but does that mean anything since he's tied with Shonn Greene with 5 TDS?)I'd call Rice a hold, not a bust , not a stud..
Chris Johnson is a soon to be stud, upcoming schedule looks very promising for him.
Stafford - bust..
Julio Jones - bust - he was a first rounder in larger leagues, what with all the preseason hype/love he received..
AJ - bust
Megatron - Mega-Bust
Dare I say that McFadden could possibly end up being a bigger bust than Chris Johnson??! At least CJ has shown a few games where he has stepped up in strong matchups and played like a game changing rb. McFadden not so much. And McFadden carries more injury risk. I own McFadden and I can't believe I'm saying this but I'd rather own CJ if I had the choice!
cracKer
Shawn Culcasi
Chris Johnson is a hold at this point. He's the #16 RB, he's posted over 100 total yards in 3 of the past 4 games and appears to be set up for another nice week. He has a rough stretch before what appears to be a very nice playoff schedule, so we'll see.
The CJ hate is well deserved, but maybe he was right and it took the O-line a little longer to gel. DMac was drafted with higher expectations and has played worse, yet he gets a pass because of the scheme?
The CJ hate is well deserved, but maybe he was right and it took the O-line a little longer to gel. DMac was drafted with higher expectations and has played worse, yet he gets a pass because of the scheme?
cracKer
Shawn Culcasi
Indeed...Although it doesn't mean that Brees and Rodgers deserve to be at 3/4 when RG3 and Ryan were drafted many rounds later. Those who suggest drafting a QB that early must be the ones who swung and missed on QBs in later rounds and possibly hit on a late round RB or waiver add. RB will always be the play at that point in the draft.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
In the "was drafting a QB in round1 a mistake thread" the current season VBD was brought up. Brees and rodgers rank 2 and 3 behind Foster.IMO Brees and Rodgers give your squad a giant advantage, regardless of who is even on the other squad. RG3 is the great outlier, as was Cam last year, those picks are pure luck for their performance heck Cam wasnt even drafted in many leagues. Grabbing Brees/Rodgers you could be rolling with an "injured" ADP, Gore or Turner pick up Alfred morris on and on.
just_want_2_win
Footballguy
Rodgers is a great asset now but his slow start put many an owner, I'm sure, in a bind. I have one roster in a 12-team league that on paper looked great -- Rodgers, McFadden, Julio, Nicks, Gates, Martin, Decker. But each of those guys suffered either from a slow start, injuries, or inconsistency and that team is 2-5.
Brees was more of a good 1st rounder from the outset.
Brees was more of a good 1st rounder from the outset.
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Doug B
Footballguy
Not yet -- only missed one game, and performed like a 1st-rounder when he played (on pace for 96 rec, 1,000 yds and 12 TDs before injury).
Hue G
Footballguy
While I wouldn't consider brady a total bust yet I'd say most people that took him in the first round regret it so far, the Pats offense has become much more run oriented and although reliable brady isn't winning any games for fantasy teams which is what you hope for from your first round pick, on top of that if you took brady in the first round there's a good chance you're rb's are pretty weak and brady isn't even coming close to making up for that.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Took Rodgers 1.05 and started 0-3.
3-4 and leading the league in points.
3-4 and leading the league in points.
Rice is 5th in to-date VBD, behind only Brees, Foster, Rodgers, and Griffin, and right ahead of Matt Ryan and Jamaal Charles. If "second best RB and top 5 player regardless of position" doesn't meet your definition of stud, you need to reevaluate your definition of stud. He's on pace for 1750/11, which is down from last year... But RB production across the board is down, which means he's still on pace for nearly as much VBD.'Tanner9919 said:
Yes, I agree with this. Rice may not outplay his #1-3 ranking overall, but few do. The fact that he has held steadfast as top 5 overall, is an indication of how good a pick it was. When you pick top 3, you should not expect top 3 numbers; you are hedging your bet that the guy won't tank (which he has not done at all). McCoy on the other hand...he goes as my biggest bust as people were trading up for a "sure thing versus "taking what was given" in McFadden and Chris Johnson.
