socal4football
Footballguy
McCoy has a sprained toe (mild) and although he is expected to play a full workload, sometimes these things get worse. Some sites have Ronnie Brown, others have Dion Lewis. Anyone know which is his most likely backup?
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Who is LeSean McCoy's (toe) handcuff? (1 Viewer)
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Amused to Death
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I'm not sure I'd rely on any of them. In recent games, Lewis has been passed over for Chad Hall. Any of the 3 may get the bulk of the work, or Andy may just pass the ball 60 times.Over the last 3 weeks, Lewis and Brown have 2 carries each and Hall has 3. So they have handed off to a RB other than McCoy a total of 7 times in the last 3 games.
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Amused to Death
Footballguy
Just a hunch - Ronnie Brown could get a goal line carry or 2 next week against Miami (his former team). Andy let Vick score a rushing TD his first game back against the Falcons when McNabb was still the starter and Steve Smith caught his only TD of the year recently against the Giants (his former team). Wouldn't expect much else, but a chance at a short TD for Brown wouldn't surprise me.
delusional
Footballguy
Vince Young...lol. Not like they been running him lately anyway. So who knows.
loose circuits
Footballguy
Dion Lewis will get majority of work, but Ronnie will be involved likely on 3rd downs and GL duty making it a tough call on who is more valuable
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
think ur selling shadys abilities way short. hes barryesque
Brycestrahorn
Footballguy
anyone have any updaes on Shady's toe? Thursday game tonight, gotta make decisions
Sabertooth
Footballguy
I think Rex Ryan is the expert on Toe Handcuffs.
Amused to Death
Footballguy
Running back LeSean McCoy (toe) is officially listed as questionable but seems likely to play. He was limited in practice this week but played the full game Sunday.http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/homepage/20111201_Eagles__Vick_and_Maclin_won_t_play_in_Seattle.html#ixzz1fI88XjyeI'm guessing that's a typo and should read "He was limited in practice *last* week but played the full game Sunday."If it were my decision to make, I'd start him with confidence.
TheCommish
Footballguy
Playing against Shady's team for the division title. Need Seattle to be stout, and if he could re-aggravate the toe (just a bit), I wouldn't mind at all. Lord knows I've had my share of injuries this season.
solorca
Footballguy
I think if you have McCoy and he plays, you have to start him. His numbers have been down in recent weeks compared to the early season, but his down weeks are still pretty damn good. Just expect RB2 numbers and be happy if he gives you RB1 numbers.
Topes
Footballguy
No clear answer, so I'm not rostering either going into the playoffs. (Unless there's a clear answer before waivers end AND it seems likely McCoy will sit during playoffs AND I happen to be able to pick up said backup.
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
If you have a playoff caliber team, it's going to be tough to speculatively add either Lewis or Brown when you have to cut someone pretty decent, and add to that the need to hoard defenses for the playoffs. Like earlier posters have said, it may make it difficult to add them later if worst case Shady is out at some point. But the roster space is just not there for this type of add. Not yet anyway.
socal4football
Footballguy
McCoy seen limping to plane (tweeted by Philidelphia reporter) .... http://twitter.com/#!/matt_odonnell
The situation getting a little more cloudy!
Pre-emptive pickup? Wait until warmups? Wait until another owner in your league does and then kick yourself?
The situation getting a little more cloudy!
Pre-emptive pickup? Wait until warmups? Wait until another owner in your league does and then kick yourself?
HULLOBUDMAN
Footballguy
ShaHBucks
Footballguy
Looks like Lewis is ahead on the dept chart. With the early game I'd cut my kicker or something and add both if your in a pinch. Wait until a starter is announced.
http://legacy.philadelphiaeagles.com/eagles_files/html/depth_chart_rosters_1.html
http://legacy.philadelphiaeagles.com/eagles_files/html/depth_chart_rosters_1.html
Amused to Death
Footballguy
I don't doubt PFT, but I don't know where they're getting their info. I don't see a link and I haven't seen anything reported from local beat writers.
squistion
Footballguy
Wasn't Brown signed with the idea of being McCoy's backup? He is 29 and may have lost a step but he would seem more likely to step in over a 5-8, 195 lb scatback who has not had more than 2 carries in any game this season. Although perhaps the point may be moot - the most recent from Rotoworld:
http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/5168/lesean-mccoy/1
Amused to Death
Footballguy
Agree with your take on Brown/Lewis.The Rotoworld blurb is all I've seen as well with the exception of PFT's mystery GTD report.
HULLOBUDMAN
Footballguy
assuming he goes, what is everyone doing with him? Starting either way? I don't have fantastic other options but I do have options. My worry is that I have alot on the line and he tries to go but doesn't finish. Will Philly really push their young star injured even though they are out of the playoffs?
HULLOBUDMAN
Footballguy
This was posted about an hour ago
The Philadelphia Eagles will be without Michael Vick on Thursday Night Football against the Seattle Seahawks due to a rib injury suffered in Week 10. This will be the third consecutive game backup Vince Young starts the game. The results have been mixed on both of his performances as the Eagles went 1-1 in both games he started.
But the Eagles should have LeSean McCoy on the field. He's listed as questionable with a sprained toe but is reportedly expected to play on Thursday night.
The Eagles will also be without Jeremy Maclin, who has already been ruled out with a hamstring injury. The injuries don't stop there as Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie is also out with an ankle injury. Nnamdi Asomugha is questionable while Cullen Jenkins was a full participant in practice and is listed as probable.
The Seahawks injury situation isn't quite as dire but they did just lose Sidney Rice for the season. He was placed on IR after his latest concussion. The Seahawks also have their quarterback, Tarvaris Jackson, listed as probable as he continues to play with a pectoral injury. That's going to be one of the story lines in this game as Jackson's injury is noticeable.
http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2011/12/1/2603141/lesean-mccoy-injury-eagles-michael-vick
The Philadelphia Eagles will be without Michael Vick on Thursday Night Football against the Seattle Seahawks due to a rib injury suffered in Week 10. This will be the third consecutive game backup Vince Young starts the game. The results have been mixed on both of his performances as the Eagles went 1-1 in both games he started.
But the Eagles should have LeSean McCoy on the field. He's listed as questionable with a sprained toe but is reportedly expected to play on Thursday night.
The Eagles will also be without Jeremy Maclin, who has already been ruled out with a hamstring injury. The injuries don't stop there as Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie is also out with an ankle injury. Nnamdi Asomugha is questionable while Cullen Jenkins was a full participant in practice and is listed as probable.
The Seahawks injury situation isn't quite as dire but they did just lose Sidney Rice for the season. He was placed on IR after his latest concussion. The Seahawks also have their quarterback, Tarvaris Jackson, listed as probable as he continues to play with a pectoral injury. That's going to be one of the story lines in this game as Jackson's injury is noticeable.
http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2011/12/1/2603141/lesean-mccoy-injury-eagles-michael-vick
solorca
Footballguy
If he plays, he's starting for me. I'd rather take the chance on him having a poor game because of the injuury than benching my stud RB who goes off for 150 and two touchdowns. I almost benched Percy Harvin in a similar situation last week, and he ended up giving me 8/95/1.'HULLOBUDMAN said:
Chaka
Footballguy
HULLOBUDMAN
Footballguy
That is the way I am leaning now too. Especially since I can't find any other news about a GTD except PFT. All other reports show him listed as Q but likely to play.
Brycestrahorn
Footballguy
man, its week 1 playoffs for me, and this is really coming down to the wire. Its so hard to bench your stud Rb and then later to see him go off. My other choice would be Beanie, who will be running against the COwboys D, and is also banged up. Tough decision either way.
Amused to Death
Footballguy
Eagles beat reporter Tim McMannus(sp?) is in Seattle. McCoy is a GTD and will test his foot prior to game time. Heard on Philly sports radio 97.5.
Gotta love internet tough guys.
Area51Inhabitant
Footballguy
I'm facing the exact same decision. I'm still leaning towards leaving McCoy in the lineup.
socal4football
Footballguy
Per rotoworld...
Philly Sports Daily backs up a Profootballtalk report that LeSean McCoy (sprained toe) will be a legit game-time decision for Thursday night at Seattle.
Beat writers have previously expressed little concern about McCoy's status, but he's going to have to test the toe in warmups. Ronnie Brown and Dion Lewis would likely split touches if McCoy can't go. We prefer Lewis' upside, especially in PPR formats.
Philly Sports Daily backs up a Profootballtalk report that LeSean McCoy (sprained toe) will be a legit game-time decision for Thursday night at Seattle.
Beat writers have previously expressed little concern about McCoy's status, but he's going to have to test the toe in warmups. Ronnie Brown and Dion Lewis would likely split touches if McCoy can't go. We prefer Lewis' upside, especially in PPR formats.
solorca
Footballguy
With all of this talk, I'm strongly considering dropping my emergency RB or backup TE (Dexter McCluster or either Olsen/Celek) and picking up Dion Lewis....just in case. I may be wrong, but I don't see Ronnie Brown worth having, even if McCoy is out.
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EBF
Footballguy
Very few people thought McCoy was some kind of elite superstar talent when he was a draft prospect. The Philadelphia system is designed to get backs into space and allow them to use their elusiveness. McCoy and Westbrook had the right skill set to thrive in the offense because they were deadly in space. So is Dion Lewis. He's great at making people miss. I think he'd excel if given carries.
shnikies
Footballguy
4th quarter preseason game.
EBF
Footballguy
Doesn't really change the fact that those moves are impressive. It could be against high school kids and it would still be impressive. All you can do as a player is excel with whatever opportunities you're given. It's not Lewis's fault that he's stuck behind a great starter and it doesn't mean he isn't talented. Bryan Westbrook only had 46 carries in his rookie year as a third round pick. He turned out okay.
shnikies
Footballguy
Bad competition can make somebody look like Barry Sanders. If a starting safety came up and put a helmet in his groin while he did his shake and bake would he still look like Barry Sanders? I'm not saying Lewis isn't good, it's just that the video isn't the reason why.
HULLOBUDMAN
Footballguy
Link??Just kidding. Thanks for posting. I had not seen anyone else but PFT say GTD. IS there any chance he was repeating the PFT story?
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fruity pebbles
Footballguy
alot of people loved shady until his poor combine and he was still a 2nd roundernot sure about this space ur referencing. hes been met in the backfield on a majority of his runs
HULLOBUDMAN
Footballguy
update, sounds positive
The Philadelphia Eagles already knew that they would be without Michael Vick and Jeremy Maclin tonight against the Seattle Seahawks. The big injury question was then: would running back LeSean McCoy, who had been listed as questionable earlier in the week, be able to go against Seattle?
Jason La Canfora answered that question (via his Twitter account):
Barring a setback in pre-game warmups, LeSean McCoy will start for Eagles tonite on Thursday Night Football on NFL Network.
We'll keep an eye posted for the official inactives list before gametime, but that report from La Canfora sounds like a pretty good indication that McCoy's toe is feeling better. Having McCoy in the lineup will give Vince Young some necessary help as he starts again in place of Vick.
http://philly.sbnation.com/philadelphia-eagles/2011/12/1/2603910/lesean-mccoy-injury-update-philadelphia-eagles-seattle-seahawks
The Philadelphia Eagles already knew that they would be without Michael Vick and Jeremy Maclin tonight against the Seattle Seahawks. The big injury question was then: would running back LeSean McCoy, who had been listed as questionable earlier in the week, be able to go against Seattle?
Jason La Canfora answered that question (via his Twitter account):
Barring a setback in pre-game warmups, LeSean McCoy will start for Eagles tonite on Thursday Night Football on NFL Network.
We'll keep an eye posted for the official inactives list before gametime, but that report from La Canfora sounds like a pretty good indication that McCoy's toe is feeling better. Having McCoy in the lineup will give Vince Young some necessary help as he starts again in place of Vick.
http://philly.sbnation.com/philadelphia-eagles/2011/12/1/2603910/lesean-mccoy-injury-update-philadelphia-eagles-seattle-seahawks
Area51Inhabitant
Footballguy
Thanks guys for the valuable info in this thread.
EBF
Footballguy
Like this?
is really, really good at making people miss. It's his best trait. He is not a McCoy clone, but their skill sets are similar. Quick feet and shiftiness are their hallmark traits. They were recruited by the same coach, had similar careers at the same school in the same system, and are playing the same position on the same NFL team. I think Lewis could be productive in the starting role for the Eagles if given the opportunity.
HULLOBUDMAN
Footballguy
Not doubting you but wouldn't you think he takes the needle to numb the pain assuming that it can't get worse? I agree and that is my biggest worry that he is active and gets 10 snaps.
