Al O'Pecia
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On this more known topic, my daughter shares a birthday with two famous musicians -- Bob Dylan and Patti LaBelle. My wife is convinced that Labelle is more known than Dylan, and I'm convinced my wife is insane.
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Who is more well-known world-wide? (1 Viewer)
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CoolHandLukeB
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Pro tip: If Freelove is on your side, you're wrong.
It's Messi.
It's Messi.
AAABatteries
Footballguy
I'm somewhat fascinated that fact that there's so many "it's Messi and it's not close" and "it's Obama and it's not close". I voted Messi and it being "close" in this discussion could still be millions of people but it's great that people seem so convinced.
fatguyinalittlecoat
Footballguy
I'm not sure exactly how persuasive this authority is, but since 2009, Pew Research has been doing a large international survey that includes the following question:
If you click through to the actual data, you can see the answers given, including the category "Don't Know/refused", which I would assume somebody would normally respond if they didn't even know who Obama was. Most of the 40+ countries surveyed had "Don't Know/refused" rates in the single digits for this question, but a few countries are higher. China ranged between 13%-23% don't know, India was 27%-37%, Pakistan was even higher. The survey includes countries from all the continents, although admittedly if it's a phone survey it can only be done for folks that have phones so there are probably a lot of people in the developing world that it misses.
The survey also asks about the heads of state in China and Japan, and both of them got a much higher "Don't Know" response rate internationally. So it does seem like at least some extrapolating can be done, although very rough guesses are probably the best we can do.
Based on this poll, I think it's reasonable to guess well over 50% of people on Earth have heard of Barack Obama. What percentage of people on Earth do you Messi supporters think have heard of him?
http://www.pewglobal.org/2014/07/14/chapter-1-the-american-brand/
If you click through to the actual data, you can see the answers given, including the category "Don't Know/refused", which I would assume somebody would normally respond if they didn't even know who Obama was. Most of the 40+ countries surveyed had "Don't Know/refused" rates in the single digits for this question, but a few countries are higher. China ranged between 13%-23% don't know, India was 27%-37%, Pakistan was even higher. The survey includes countries from all the continents, although admittedly if it's a phone survey it can only be done for folks that have phones so there are probably a lot of people in the developing world that it misses.
The survey also asks about the heads of state in China and Japan, and both of them got a much higher "Don't Know" response rate internationally. So it does seem like at least some extrapolating can be done, although very rough guesses are probably the best we can do.
Based on this poll, I think it's reasonable to guess well over 50% of people on Earth have heard of Barack Obama. What percentage of people on Earth do you Messi supporters think have heard of him?
Brony
Footballguy
Probably 99+%. I'm not sure if you know this or not, but Soccer is very popular outside of the U.S.. Most countries actually call it football!
Global awareness - Messi - 74%
Ronaldo comes in at 84%
Suck it Obama.
Time to shut this thread down imo.
Ronaldo comes in at 84%
Suck it Obama.
Time to shut this thread down imo.
AAABatteries
Footballguy
Really have no clue but completely guessing I would expect Messi to be known by over 50% everywhere except for US/Canada. And I could see as high as 80+% in Europe, South and Central America. I think somebody said the India/China numbers could decide it and that may be right - those are just huge numbers and I can't say I have a great sense on what the % is for either of these guys in those regions.
I will ask this - what is the percentage of people in the U.S. that know who LeBron is? I ask because I think in every non-US/Canada country Messi is know by a higher % of people in those countries than LeBron is known here.
The Gator
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Statcruncher
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fatguyinalittlecoat
Footballguy
This is awesome, now we just need the same stat for Obama.
fatguyinalittlecoat
Footballguy
http://journalistsresource.org/studies/international/globalization/public-perceptions-global-leaders
Obama global awareness 93.9%. BOOM
Obama global awareness 93.9%. BOOM
The Gator
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fatguyinalittlecoat
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Zow
Footballguy
Statcruncher
Footballguy
Lol, that means nothing. That's merely a snapshot of people (presumably adults) who are willing to take a political survey and had the ability to access it. How was the survey administered; mail, internet, phone? More than half the world population doesn't have internet, that automatically excludes a demographic who more than likely knows more about soccer than politics. Also how many children were included in the survey?
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Pipes
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dschuler
Footballguy
The Google argument is rediculous. Different countries have other search engines. For example, in China, Netease is huge. It's actually a publicly traded company over here it's so big.
http://www.163.com
http://www.163.com
CletiusMaximus
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NewlyRetired
Footballguy
Al O'Pecia
Footballguy
huge: [hyooj] adjective. Extraordinarily large in bulk, quantity, or extent. See Al O'Pecia's schlong.
Canada sucks terribly at playing soccer, but I would guess we have a higher percentage of soccer fans here. Just a wild guess of course.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
It is hard to judge that type stuff. Given that Canada's population is 1/10th what the US's, your guess could be correct.
The US's increasingly growing hispanic base though will likely see the growth rate here of soccer in the US outdistance Canada's in the future.
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
I don't know the answer, but there are two really dumb points being brought up in this thread.
1) Saying that you can't name other world leaders as if that's some kind of proof that other people wouldn't be able to name Obama. The US is notorious for not knowing about the rest of the world. Or, more simply put, the rest of the world cares a lot more about the rest of the world than the US does. And most of them are somewhat obsessed (often in a bad way) with America. By contrast, we pretty much just care about ourselves.
Everyone I talk to overseas almost immediately brings up Obama when they find out I'm American. I remember staying in some rural village in Italy with some folks that could barely speak English and all they wanted to do was talk about American politics. They probably knew more about it than I did.
Probably 10% of Americans can name the Prime Minister of Britain, and probably 1% can name France's. But that is in no way indicative of the reverse, as nearly everyone in France or England knows who Obama is.
2) While soccer is immensely popular world-wide, it is not that immensely popular in the world's 3 largest countries, which make up about 40% of the world's population. It's important to put these things in context when talking about "everyone" loving football here. The entirety of Western Europe and South America combined barely account for half the population of China.
1) Saying that you can't name other world leaders as if that's some kind of proof that other people wouldn't be able to name Obama. The US is notorious for not knowing about the rest of the world. Or, more simply put, the rest of the world cares a lot more about the rest of the world than the US does. And most of them are somewhat obsessed (often in a bad way) with America. By contrast, we pretty much just care about ourselves.
Everyone I talk to overseas almost immediately brings up Obama when they find out I'm American. I remember staying in some rural village in Italy with some folks that could barely speak English and all they wanted to do was talk about American politics. They probably knew more about it than I did.
Probably 10% of Americans can name the Prime Minister of Britain, and probably 1% can name France's. But that is in no way indicative of the reverse, as nearly everyone in France or England knows who Obama is.
2) While soccer is immensely popular world-wide, it is not that immensely popular in the world's 3 largest countries, which make up about 40% of the world's population. It's important to put these things in context when talking about "everyone" loving football here. The entirety of Western Europe and South America combined barely account for half the population of China.
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Maybe you missed the post above about 600 million Chinese soccer fans - almost double the US population...
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
As best I can tell that's just a made up number. China's feelings towards soccer are basically the same as the US. They get excited around the world cup, and other than that they have a small minority of dedicated fans. Saying that China likes soccer is exactly the same as saying that the US is a huge soccer country because the world cup got decent ratings. It's complete bunk.
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AAABatteries
Footballguy
What % of kids do you think know who Obama is outside the U.S.? I think the kid numbers is what gives it to Messi.
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
Has anyone brought up the China and India factor yet?
Long Ball Larry
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CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
Someone should alert Messi's agents, Barcelona and Adidas to the potential markets in China and India so they might start targeting those places.
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BowieMercs
Footballguy
Has to be Messi. I don't even like hacky sack (aka soccer, futbol etc) but I'm smart enough to know that the sheeple in the rest of the world love that stupid game.
But over the leader of the most powerful country in the world? Really?
And if it hasn't been said multiple times already, soccer sucks.
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
bunch of #######, the lot of em.
AAABatteries
Footballguy
Not terribly relevant, but funny.
Real Madrid was playing an exhibition game in China (big crowd by the way), and as part of the game, the players walk out onto the pitch with local youngsters - one child per player. Except that two of the kids left their assigned player to stand with Ronaldo...I doubt they know who Obama is...
Real Madrid was playing an exhibition game in China (big crowd by the way), and as part of the game, the players walk out onto the pitch with local youngsters - one child per player. Except that two of the kids left their assigned player to stand with Ronaldo...I doubt they know who Obama is...
