I can 100% see that. I can also 100% see every other option.Hurts.
Allen runs less this year.
Mahomes hands off more because of his receiving crew. No more jet sweep "pass" TDs for Mahomes, but rather, runs by Pacheco.
Absolutely the safest pick and those numbers seem spot onIf I was in a league with a million dollar buy in give me Mahomes. He is a lock for 4800 yards and 38 passing tds. Sprinkle in a couple rushing tds. Heck, last year he had 4 rushing tds.
I am a little surprised by that too.I'm shocked I'm the only who has voted Allen.
He's a better passer than Hurts, a better runner than Mahomes, and he's been better than Mahomes each of the last 3 seasons.
I think people keep waiting for something that's never going to happen when it comes to Allen running less. They say they will reduce it every year, its gone up 3 straight seasons.
Is Allen>Mahomes really "getting cute" though?People like to get cute at times. I’d take mahomes even in dynasty.
That’s my quarterback. That’s my teammate. :wipes TO tears away:I think Herbert finishes number one this year. But give me Allen, Mahomes, Hurts in order for those presented.
Love it! Call your shot brother.I think Herbert finishes number one this year. But give me Allen, Mahomes, Hurts in order for those presented.
I think he has a legit shot but that's getting too cute for the #1 pick.No Lamar Jackson in this conversation?
Mahomes hands off more because of his receiving crew. No more jet sweep "pass" TDs for Mahomes, but rather, runs by Pacheco.
When everyone is going left, you gotta go rightI think he has a legit shot but that's getting too cute for the #1 pick.No Lamar Jackson in this conversation?
Wasn't this the narrative that had him firmly behind Allen and Herbert last year?
Especially in polit…..When everyone is going left, you gotta go rightI think he has a legit shot but that's getting too cute for the #1 pick.No Lamar Jackson in this conversation?
When everyone is going left, you gotta go right
We shall seeWhen everyone is going left, you gotta go right
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I very likely will be facing this decision tomorrow. It's a great position to be in but I have been staring at the names and, it occurred to me that in all the posts I have made about the mid tier and lower tier guys this off-season, I have never considered what to do when faced with the cream of the crop.
Mahomes is the best QB in the NFL but he had to put up a career high 5,200 yards with 41 TDs & a career high 4 rush TD and still finished behind, or only marginally ahead of Allen & Hurts.
Allen feels like the "safest" bet with several years of top rushing/passing. And I don't really worry about anyone vulturing TDs. But he does take a lot of hits.
Hurts ran for 13 TDs last year, can he possibly hit double digit rushing TDs three years in a row?
Receivers are equally as bad (or good) as last year but couldn't Pacheco become a 260 touch guy? Would that negatively impact Mahomes?Mahomes hands off more because of his receiving crew. No more jet sweep "pass" TDs for Mahomes, but rather, runs by Pacheco.
Wasn't this the narrative that had him firmly behind Allen and Herbert last year?
Aidan O'Connell is already #1 in my heart.Aidan O’Connell will be #1 in four years or less.
I see the logic and if I was facing the choice of the top RB I may go with Chubb for that reason.When everyone is going left, you gotta go rightI think he has a legit shot but that's getting too cute for the #1 pick.No Lamar Jackson in this conversation?
You think very highly of Pacheco. I like him but no RB is going to become a focal point of an offense with Patrick Mahomes under center.Wasn't this the narrative that had him firmly behind Allen and Herbert last year?
They didn't have a back like Pacheco going into the year, so there was no narrative like this. Don't forget, they were winging it with CEH and McKinnon, and the seventh round rookie was waiting in the wings.
Love Burrow. I think 300-400 yards is out of reach but he did rush for 5 TDs last year, I just wonder if that is something we can really count on going forward.burrow. he's been ascending every year. just a few more steps. best weapons of the top qbs. sneaks in rushing tds. could rush for 300-400 yards, pass for 5k and throw 40+ tds. sounds lofty but it's not that much more than what he already has done.
Yeah, he is the biggest unknown of the bunch. The goal line love keeps him near the top, as does the offensive line, the skill position players and pretty much everything else. My biggest concern is he had a 5% bump in completion % last year. Is that sustainable? If he comes down to 63% it's still very good and in line with guys like Allen & Lamar, but I wonder about a little regression with Hurts.I very likely will be facing this decision tomorrow. It's a great position to be in but I have been staring at the names and, it occurred to me that in all the posts I have made about the mid tier and lower tier guys this off-season, I have never considered what to do when faced with the cream of the crop.
Mahomes is the best QB in the NFL but he had to put up a career high 5,200 yards with 41 TDs & a career high 4 rush TD and still finished behind, or only marginally ahead of Allen & Hurts.
Allen feels like the "safest" bet with several years of top rushing/passing. And I don't really worry about anyone vulturing TDs. But he does take a lot of hits.
Hurts ran for 13 TDs last year, can he possibly hit double digit rushing TDs three years in a row?
The one thing with Hurts (I don't know if it's true with Mahomes and Allen) but the Eagles had a really easy schedule last year and in many games had a large lead by halftime and pretty much took their foot off the gas and went into an offensive shell in the second half of games. Hurts did most of his damage in the 1st half. It was one of the major knocks a lot of fans had with the Eagles, that they didn't play 4 quarters of football. This season, their schedule looks to be much harder and I expect the Eagles to have to keep their foot on the gas for longer into games. It could give a major boost to his numbers, or because of the tougher schedule could expose him as a fraud.
Yeah, he is the biggest unknown of the bunch. The goal line love keeps him near the top, as does the offensive line, the skill position players and pretty much everything else. My biggest concern is he had a 5% bump in completion % last year. Is that sustainable? If he comes down to 63% it's still very good and in line with guys like Allen & Lamar, but I wonder about a little regression with Hurts.I very likely will be facing this decision tomorrow. It's a great position to be in but I have been staring at the names and, it occurred to me that in all the posts I have made about the mid tier and lower tier guys this off-season, I have never considered what to do when faced with the cream of the crop.
Mahomes is the best QB in the NFL but he had to put up a career high 5,200 yards with 41 TDs & a career high 4 rush TD and still finished behind, or only marginally ahead of Allen & Hurts.
Allen feels like the "safest" bet with several years of top rushing/passing. And I don't really worry about anyone vulturing TDs. But he does take a lot of hits.
Hurts ran for 13 TDs last year, can he possibly hit double digit rushing TDs three years in a row?
The one thing with Hurts (I don't know if it's true with Mahomes and Allen) but the Eagles had a really easy schedule last year and in many games had a large lead by halftime and pretty much took their foot off the gas and went into an offensive shell in the second half of games. Hurts did most of his damage in the 1st half. It was one of the major knocks a lot of fans had with the Eagles, that they didn't play 4 quarters of football. This season, their schedule looks to be much harder and I expect the Eagles to have to keep their foot on the gas for longer into games. It could give a major boost to his numbers, or because of the tougher schedule could expose him as a fraud.
Can he really put in 10+ TDs on the ground three years in a row? Cam Newton, who is leaps and bounds the best ever (so far) did it three times in his career.
Yeah the reports coming out of camp, mostly I heard about from you I think, sounded great.Yeah, he is the biggest unknown of the bunch. The goal line love keeps him near the top, as does the offensive line, the skill position players and pretty much everything else. My biggest concern is he had a 5% bump in completion % last year. Is that sustainable? If he comes down to 63% it's still very good and in line with guys like Allen & Lamar, but I wonder about a little regression with Hurts.I very likely will be facing this decision tomorrow. It's a great position to be in but I have been staring at the names and, it occurred to me that in all the posts I have made about the mid tier and lower tier guys this off-season, I have never considered what to do when faced with the cream of the crop.
Mahomes is the best QB in the NFL but he had to put up a career high 5,200 yards with 41 TDs & a career high 4 rush TD and still finished behind, or only marginally ahead of Allen & Hurts.
Allen feels like the "safest" bet with several years of top rushing/passing. And I don't really worry about anyone vulturing TDs. But he does take a lot of hits.
Hurts ran for 13 TDs last year, can he possibly hit double digit rushing TDs three years in a row?
The one thing with Hurts (I don't know if it's true with Mahomes and Allen) but the Eagles had a really easy schedule last year and in many games had a large lead by halftime and pretty much took their foot off the gas and went into an offensive shell in the second half of games. Hurts did most of his damage in the 1st half. It was one of the major knocks a lot of fans had with the Eagles, that they didn't play 4 quarters of football. This season, their schedule looks to be much harder and I expect the Eagles to have to keep their foot on the gas for longer into games. It could give a major boost to his numbers, or because of the tougher schedule could expose him as a fraud.
Can he really put in 10+ TDs on the ground three years in a row? Cam Newton, who is leaps and bounds the best ever (so far) did it three times in his career.
Wish I had an opinion on this, I'm curious myself if he's going to get better or regress. Reports from camp were that he was in total control of the offense and was better in camp this year than last year. But the starters didn't play a down in the preseason and the Eagles have a new OC so it's hard to even get a sense without seeing it for yourself.
Yeah the reports coming out of camp, mostly I heard about from you I think, sounded great.Yeah, he is the biggest unknown of the bunch. The goal line love keeps him near the top, as does the offensive line, the skill position players and pretty much everything else. My biggest concern is he had a 5% bump in completion % last year. Is that sustainable? If he comes down to 63% it's still very good and in line with guys like Allen & Lamar, but I wonder about a little regression with Hurts.I very likely will be facing this decision tomorrow. It's a great position to be in but I have been staring at the names and, it occurred to me that in all the posts I have made about the mid tier and lower tier guys this off-season, I have never considered what to do when faced with the cream of the crop.
Mahomes is the best QB in the NFL but he had to put up a career high 5,200 yards with 41 TDs & a career high 4 rush TD and still finished behind, or only marginally ahead of Allen & Hurts.
Allen feels like the "safest" bet with several years of top rushing/passing. And I don't really worry about anyone vulturing TDs. But he does take a lot of hits.
Hurts ran for 13 TDs last year, can he possibly hit double digit rushing TDs three years in a row?
The one thing with Hurts (I don't know if it's true with Mahomes and Allen) but the Eagles had a really easy schedule last year and in many games had a large lead by halftime and pretty much took their foot off the gas and went into an offensive shell in the second half of games. Hurts did most of his damage in the 1st half. It was one of the major knocks a lot of fans had with the Eagles, that they didn't play 4 quarters of football. This season, their schedule looks to be much harder and I expect the Eagles to have to keep their foot on the gas for longer into games. It could give a major boost to his numbers, or because of the tougher schedule could expose him as a fraud.
Can he really put in 10+ TDs on the ground three years in a row? Cam Newton, who is leaps and bounds the best ever (so far) did it three times in his career.
Wish I had an opinion on this, I'm curious myself if he's going to get better or regress. Reports from camp were that he was in total control of the offense and was better in camp this year than last year. But the starters didn't play a down in the preseason and the Eagles have a new OC so it's hard to even get a sense without seeing it for yourself.
Would you take Hurts over Mahomes & Allen?
Yes but remember; no matter how hot the supermodel is, some person somewhere is tired of their ####.Yeah the reports coming out of camp, mostly I heard about from you I think, sounded great.Yeah, he is the biggest unknown of the bunch. The goal line love keeps him near the top, as does the offensive line, the skill position players and pretty much everything else. My biggest concern is he had a 5% bump in completion % last year. Is that sustainable? If he comes down to 63% it's still very good and in line with guys like Allen & Lamar, but I wonder about a little regression with Hurts.I very likely will be facing this decision tomorrow. It's a great position to be in but I have been staring at the names and, it occurred to me that in all the posts I have made about the mid tier and lower tier guys this off-season, I have never considered what to do when faced with the cream of the crop.
Mahomes is the best QB in the NFL but he had to put up a career high 5,200 yards with 41 TDs & a career high 4 rush TD and still finished behind, or only marginally ahead of Allen & Hurts.
Allen feels like the "safest" bet with several years of top rushing/passing. And I don't really worry about anyone vulturing TDs. But he does take a lot of hits.
Hurts ran for 13 TDs last year, can he possibly hit double digit rushing TDs three years in a row?
The one thing with Hurts (I don't know if it's true with Mahomes and Allen) but the Eagles had a really easy schedule last year and in many games had a large lead by halftime and pretty much took their foot off the gas and went into an offensive shell in the second half of games. Hurts did most of his damage in the 1st half. It was one of the major knocks a lot of fans had with the Eagles, that they didn't play 4 quarters of football. This season, their schedule looks to be much harder and I expect the Eagles to have to keep their foot on the gas for longer into games. It could give a major boost to his numbers, or because of the tougher schedule could expose him as a fraud.
Can he really put in 10+ TDs on the ground three years in a row? Cam Newton, who is leaps and bounds the best ever (so far) did it three times in his career.
Wish I had an opinion on this, I'm curious myself if he's going to get better or regress. Reports from camp were that he was in total control of the offense and was better in camp this year than last year. But the starters didn't play a down in the preseason and the Eagles have a new OC so it's hard to even get a sense without seeing it for yourself.
Would you take Hurts over Mahomes & Allen?
It's like asking which supermodel I want to date. You really can't go wrong either way. The difference between them will probably be maybe 1 or 1.5 points a game. Gun to my head, I'd go Mahomes simply because I believe he is the most likely to avoid injury and play all 17 games.
no. but i can say i have more burrow than the top 3 guys. been buying the dip on burrow with his injury. so some hopium on my part. i have shares of all the top guys through tlaw. got burrow twice last night (6th round in a 12 teamer and 7th round in a 10 teamer). i'll take that over having to spend a 2nd or 3rd for a guy who is on the heels of the top guys anyway.For those promoting Lamar & Burrow: do you honestly believe you would draft them as the first QB overall? Could you really say "Lamar Jackson" when Patrick Mahomes is on the board?
I don't think I have the stones for that, but I would love to do it.
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Unfortunately that isn't the thread we live in.I hate taking the first one of them off the board. In a perfect world, it's your pick and 2 of the 3 are gone and you grab the last.
You have no idea how much I would like to do that, if for no other reason than to film the reactions.Hint: receiving targets Olave, Thomas, Shaheed, Three Quans, Kamara, Miller, Johnson, Graham, Moreau.