Who is the most overrated RB not named... (1 Viewer)

[Joe T]

Clearly, Ronnie Brown is running head and shoulders above the rest in terms of being overrated going into the '06 season.

Who is next?

I think its probably Kevin Jones. How is this guy consistently in the top 20 rankings? He's never finished in the top 20. Last year, he couldn't even finish in the top 30 which even Kevan Barlow managed to do. He's being ranked ahead of the likes of Warrick Dunn (consistently in the top 20), Willie Parker, Ruben Droughns, ect.

Yes, I know he only played in 13 games last year. So did Julius Jones and JJ was able to crack the top 20.

KJ should be in the 22-25 range instead of the 14-17.

Who else is undeserving of their high ranking?

 

[Gatorman]

JoeT --

How about caddy? Along with Ronnie he showed flashes, but he actually got run down from all the carries gruden put him through. Ronnie stayed healthy.

 

[CGRdrJoe]

Julius Jones, must be something about the last name.

 

[gman8343]

I like both Ronnie Brown and Kevin Jones this year. For overrated I'd say Chester Taylor.

 

[Sinrman]

Clearly, Ronnie Brown is running head and shoulders above the rest in terms of being overrated going into the '06 season.

Who is next?

I think its probably Kevin Jones. How is this guy consistently in the top 20 rankings? He's never finished in the top 20. Last year, he couldn't even finish in the top 30 which even Kevan Barlow managed to do. He's being ranked ahead of the likes of Warrick Dunn (consistently in the top 20), Willie Parker, Ruben Droughns, ect.

Yes, I know he only played in 13 games last year. So did Julius Jones and JJ was able to crack the top 20.

KJ should be in the 22-25 range instead of the 14-17.

Who else is undeserving of their high ranking?

Being a Lions fan, it pains me to agree with you. I was VERY happy when they drafted him, along with Roy Williams in 2004. But he has been a big underachiever so far. I think part of it was the lazy attitude in Detroit, lack of leadership, and the poor quality of play throughout the team. But Jones is defintely part of the blame, too. *shrug* He still has a LOT to prove...I do also agree with Julius Jones. He had a few games where he showed some flash, but overall, he's been pretty poor. In fantasy football, he's being drafted way earlier than I ever would take him. So I've flat our avoided drafting him. Sure, it's possible he could come back strong and do very well, but it's equally possible that he's a big bust and the Tuna pulls the plug on him in favor of Barber...

 

[Joe T]

JoeT --

How about caddy? Along with Ronnie he showed flashes, but he actually got run down from all the carries gruden put him through. Ronnie stayed healthy.

I like Caddy. He may be overrated 1 or 2 spots, but I think he's in the range he should go. You are right, Gruden over used him, but he still put up 1200 yards and 5 TD's while missing 3 games.He was great early and very good late in the season. When healthy, Caddy has shown he can carry the ball 20+ times a game and be a dominant back.

Ronnie Brown has not shown he can carry the ball 20+ times a game.

 

[joffer]

I think its probably Kevin Jones. How is this guy consistently in the top 20 rankings? He's never finished in the top 20.

well, his rookie year he wasn't ranked in the top 20 preseason, at least by this site, and he finished 21st.last year, he was, and finished 31st.

So how about this, he's underachieved his preaseason rank only once!

 

[Joe T]

I think its probably Kevin Jones.  How is this guy consistently in the top 20 rankings?  He's never finished in the top 20. 

well, his rookie year he wasn't ranked in the top 20 preseason, at least by this site, and he finished 21st.last year, he was, and finished 31st.

So how about this, he's underachieved his preaseason rank only once!

I meant consistently ranked in the top 20 this season by multiple people/sites.Sorry for the confusion.

 

[Couch Potato]

I'll say Jones.

This way, if either Juluis, Kevin, Thomas, or Greg flops miserably, I'm still right!

 

[joffer]

I think its probably Kevin Jones.  How is this guy consistently in the top 20 rankings?  He's never finished in the top 20. 

well, his rookie year he wasn't ranked in the top 20 preseason, at least by this site, and he finished 21st.last year, he was, and finished 31st.

So how about this, he's underachieved his preaseason rank only once!

I meant consistently ranked in the top 20 this season by multiple people/sites.Sorry for the confusion.

in that case, it's because they remember the last 8 weeks of 04 when he led the league in rushing over that stretch.

 

[H.K.]

Chester Taylor

Never even been a starter and he's RB21 in the rankings.

 

[Joe T]

Chester Taylor

Never even been a starter and he's RB21 in the rankings.

He's high on my list as well.

 

[Jason Wood]

It's an interesting question. Personally I think Ronnie Brown isn't overrated, but clearly one has to make a leap of faith to draft him as your RB1. It's never easy to pull the trigger on someone who hasn't done it before. So while I rank him in the top 10 at his position, I'm not sure I would be jumping at the chance to draft him at current ADP.

Julius Jones concerns me...I don't think Marion Barber will miss a step if he gets the chance, and Parcells won't tolerate Jones' being nicked up again this year.

Agree that Kevin Jones is puzzling, he could be this year's Barlow. Admittedly I fell for the Barlow Kool Aid, too, so I'm sensitive to buying into the Kevin Jones + Mike Martz = Fantasy God hype.

 

[ILUVBEER99]

Julius Jones and Chester Taylor.

Barber does a lot of things better than Julius which will limit his production (blocking, receiving, goal-line running)

Taylor blows my mind. The Vikings are not very good and they already have a great 3rd down back in Moore. Just don't see Taylor doing much stat wise.

 

[BroadwayG]

Willie McGee

 

[joffer]

Willie McGee

man he was ugly, good hitter though

 

[Crimedogg32]

Julius look for MBIII to see atleast half the carries a few weeks into the year unless JJ is already hurt by then

 

[sholditch]

Chester Taylor

Never even been a starter and he's RB21 in the rankings.

He's high on my list as well.

agree here. Also, if you look at the games where he has carried the rock over 20 times, he's had exactly two good games in the past three years. Most of the time his ypc goes down significantly when asked to carry a full load, sometimes dipping below 3.0. People are going to go down in flames if they draft him before the third.

 

[sholditch]

It's an interesting question. Personally I think Ronnie Brown isn't overrated, but clearly one has to make a leap of faith to draft him as your RB1. It's never easy to pull the trigger on someone who hasn't done it before. So while I rank him in the top 10 at his position, I'm not sure I would be jumping at the chance to draft him at current ADP.

Julius Jones concerns me...I don't think Marion Barber will miss a step if he gets the chance, and Parcells won't tolerate Jones' being nicked up again this year.

Agree that Kevin Jones is puzzling, he could be this year's Barlow. Admittedly I fell for the Barlow Kool Aid, too, so I'm sensitive to buying into the Kevin Jones + Mike Martz = Fantasy God hype.

Wasn't KJ last year's Kevan Barlow?

 

[LHUCKS]

Juliette Jones

 

[Blackjacks]

I think "The Edge" is much more overrated this year than Ronnie Brown.

 

[sholditch]

If anything he's underrated. I've actually seen him ranked out of the top 10. I think Edge is a steal this year.

 

[Blackjacks]

If anything he's underrated. I've actually seen him ranked out of the top 10. I think Edge is a steal this year.

I'll never draft an Arizona running back.

 

[KnowledgeReignsSupreme]

Chester Taylor

Never even been a starter and he's RB21 in the rankings.

He's high on my list as well.

agree here. Also, if you look at the games where he has carried the rock over 20 times, he's had exactly two good games in the past three years. Most of the time his ypc goes down significantly when asked to carry a full load, sometimes dipping below 3.0. People are going to go down in flames if they draft him before the third.

How many games does Chester Taylor have over 20 carries?

 

[Shiver44]

Julius Jones

He's the Mr. Glass* of NFL Running Backs, he'll never ammount to anything. He was injury prone in college, and he's missed nearly half of his NFL career thus far.

* Unbreakable reference

 

[Couch Potato]

If anything he's underrated. I've actually seen him ranked out of the top 10. I think Edge is a steal this year.

I'll never draft an Arizona running back.

Never is a long time.

 

[KnowledgeReignsSupreme]

If anything he's underrated. I've actually seen him ranked out of the top 10. I think Edge is a steal this year.

I'll never draft an Arizona running back.

Never is a long time.

Or a short life.

 

[joffer]

Chester Taylor

Never even been a starter and he's RB21 in the rankings.

He's high on my list as well.

agree here. Also, if you look at the games where he has carried the rock over 20 times, he's had exactly two good games in the past three years. Most of the time his ypc goes down significantly when asked to carry a full load, sometimes dipping below 3.0. People are going to go down in flames if they draft him before the third.

How many games does Chester Taylor have over 20 carries?

four, one last year and three in 200420/59/0

21/89/0

23/139/1

25/104/0

 

[KnowledgeReignsSupreme]

Chester Taylor

Never even been a starter and he's RB21 in the rankings.

He's high on my list as well.

agree here. Also, if you look at the games where he has carried the rock over 20 times, he's had exactly two good games in the past three years. Most of the time his ypc goes down significantly when asked to carry a full load, sometimes dipping below 3.0. People are going to go down in flames if they draft him before the third.

How many games does Chester Taylor have over 20 carries?

four, one last year and three in 200420/59/0

21/89/0

23/139/1

25/104/0

So we're talking about a sample size of 4 games, 2 of which were "good" (although I'd list the 21/89 game as good also).

 

[Blackjacks]

If anything he's underrated. I've actually seen him ranked out of the top 10. I think Edge is a steal this year.

I'll never draft an Arizona running back.

Never is a long time.

Or a short life.

Long enough

 

[relic]

Surprised that no one has mentioned D. Davis. An ADP of 15th? with his health and that o-line, no thanks.

 

[ffchamp1]

Clearly, Ronnie Brown is running head and shoulders above the rest in terms of being overrated going into the '06 season.

Who is next?

I think its probably Kevin Jones. How is this guy consistently in the top 20 rankings? He's never finished in the top 20. Last year, he couldn't even finish in the top 30 which even Kevan Barlow managed to do. He's being ranked ahead of the likes of Warrick Dunn (consistently in the top 20), Willie Parker, Ruben Droughns, ect.

Yes, I know he only played in 13 games last year. So did Julius Jones and JJ was able to crack the top 20.

KJ should be in the 22-25 range instead of the 14-17.

Who else is undeserving of their high ranking?

Most overrated RB this year...SEA Shaun Alexander. He will not come close to the 28 td season he had last year, especially after losing Hutchinson at guard.

Tom

 

[agent 86]

I agree with the Jones boys, although neither is rated an RB1 on any of the lists that I've seen. I think Taylor could actually be a very solid RB2 due to his versatility and that's just where I see him ranked.

My pick would have to be Jackson. He struggled in the feature role last year, he plays for a "pass 1st" team that could be playing alot of catch-up this year. I can see the Rams abandonning the run the way they have so often in past years. I'm not sure I'd want Jackson as my RB1 for those drafting late. I'd prefer James, Rudi, Ronnie, and Cadi over him. All seem to play for better teams and have demonstrated more to this point IMHO.

Honorable mention would go to Westbrook and Davis who seem to live on the injury reports.

 

[CalBear]

Surprised that no one has mentioned D. Davis. An ADP of 15th? with his health and that o-line, no thanks.

He finished as RB#17 in 2005, despite playing only 11 games. He was RB#5 in 2004, playing in only 15.

 

[Couch Potato]

My pick would have to be Jackson. He struggled in the feature role last year, he plays for a "pass 1st" team that could be playing alot of catch-up this year. I can see the Rams abandonning the run the way they have so often in past years.

You are aware they have an entirely different HC and OC this year, yes?

 

[softball]

I read the entire thread,

and it appears there are no good running backs available in the second round.

So lets abandon the second round in 2006.....

 

[JohnnyU]

Willie McGee

man he was ugly, good hitter though

That boy looks just like E.T.- Howard Cosell

Think he caught some heat for that one?

 

[JohnnyU]

Willie McGee

man he was ugly, good hitter though

Question, who was uglier, Willie McGee or the 1980's Boston Celtics? They used to make Danny Ainge sit at the front of the bus just to get women.

 

[Deuce'sWild]

I read the entire thread,

and it appears there are no good running backs available in the second round.

So lets abandon the second round in 2006.....

I sense the , however, I am a firm believer of going with the stud WR in the 2nd and maybe even 3rd rds this year.

 

[bumpman]

Chester Taylor

Never even been a starter and he's RB21 in the rankings.

He's high on my list as well.

agree here. Also, if you look at the games where he has carried the rock over 20 times, he's had exactly two good games in the past three years. Most of the time his ypc goes down significantly when asked to carry a full load, sometimes dipping below 3.0. People are going to go down in flames if they draft him before the third.

How many games does Chester Taylor have over 20 carries?

four, one last year and three in 200420/59/0

21/89/0

23/139/1

25/104/0

So we're talking about a sample size of 4 games, 2 of which were "good" (although I'd list the 21/89 game as good also).

I love the way people characterize stats without providing context. Chester "dipped below 3.0" exactly once when asked to carry twenty times or more. In that game, he averaged 2.95 yards per carry.

 

[Patoons]

JoeT --

How about caddy? Along with Ronnie he showed flashes, but he actually got run down from all the carries gruden put him through. Ronnie stayed healthy.

I like Caddy. He may be overrated 1 or 2 spots, but I think he's in the range he should go. You are right, Gruden over used him, but he still put up 1200 yards and 5 TD's while missing 3 games.He was great early and very good late in the season. When healthy, Caddy has shown he can carry the ball 20+ times a game and be a dominant back.

Ronnie Brown has not shown he can carry the ball 20+ times a game.

AH yes... credit the guy for being able to handle 20+ carries after he broke down quickly with that load and call a guy overrated because he hasn't had the opportunity to carry the ball 20+ times... I don't see the logic.

 

[Couch Potato]

Willie McGee

man he was ugly, good hitter though

Question, who was uglier, Willie McGee or the 1980's Boston Celtics? They used to make Danny Ainge sit at the front of the bus just to get women.

Are you implying that Kevin "Herman Munster" McHale wasn't a cutie?

 

[JohnnyU]

Willie McGee

man he was ugly, good hitter though

Question, who was uglier, Willie McGee or the 1980's Boston Celtics? They used to make Danny Ainge sit at the front of the bus just to get women.

Are you implying that Kevin "Herman Munster" McHale wasn't a cutie?

I really don't know who was uglier, McHale, Bird, DJ, or Parrish.Edited to say, I don't know why I said "was uglier", I'm sure they're still pretty damn ugly.

 

[Noahs Troopers]

Most overrated is Ahman Green, seen him going anywhere from the 3rd to 6th round, how is a guy who is basically done for good and not worth anything going as anything but a deep flyer in a 16 + team league?

 

[Sabertooth]

JoeT --

How about caddy? Along with Ronnie he showed flashes, but he actually got run down from all the carries gruden put him through. Ronnie stayed healthy.

I like Caddy. He may be overrated 1 or 2 spots, but I think he's in the range he should go. You are right, Gruden over used him, but he still put up 1200 yards and 5 TD's while missing 3 games.He was great early and very good late in the season. When healthy, Caddy has shown he can carry the ball 20+ times a game and be a dominant back.

Ronnie Brown has not shown he can carry the ball 20+ times a game.

He did run the ball 20+ thrice.

 

[Blackjacks]

JoeT --

How about caddy? Along with Ronnie he showed flashes, but he actually got run down from all the carries gruden put him through. Ronnie stayed healthy.

I like Caddy. He may be overrated 1 or 2 spots, but I think he's in the range he should go. You are right, Gruden over used him, but he still put up 1200 yards and 5 TD's while missing 3 games.He was great early and very good late in the season. When healthy, Caddy has shown he can carry the ball 20+ times a game and be a dominant back.

Ronnie Brown has not shown he can carry the ball 20+ times a game.

He did run the ball 20+ thrice.

In those three games he avg. over 100 yards a game!!!!!!!!

 

[Captain Quinoa]

1. Julius Jones - no way I'd take him in the 2nd - Barber in the wings and injury waiting to happen.

2. Ronnie Brown - Top 10? No idea why he's going so high.

3. McGahee

Haven't decided about Kevin Jones yet. I think Chet Taylor will be a steal.

 

[ProdigyofParcells]

JoeT --

How about caddy? Along with Ronnie he showed flashes, but he actually got run down from all the carries gruden put him through. Ronnie stayed healthy.

I like Caddy. He may be overrated 1 or 2 spots, but I think he's in the range he should go. You are right, Gruden over used him, but he still put up 1200 yards and 5 TD's while missing 3 games.He was great early and very good late in the season. When healthy, Caddy has shown he can carry the ball 20+ times a game and be a dominant back.

Ronnie Brown has not shown he can carry the ball 20+ times a game.

He did run the ball 20+ thrice.

Im with FFChamp on SA. I view as overrated as one that will underperform where they are drafted. I dont see Julius or Kevin Jones performing below where they are being selected. When healthy, Julius was top 5.My other back I will say is Steven Jackson. I just dont see him as that horse that Linehan is going to ride. He likes to spread it around like he did in Minny and a little last year in Miami. Jackson runs a little too upright ala Chris Brown to last long as a horse as well. Only Eddie George survived that kind of pounding running like that in recent memory.

 

[Captain Quinoa]

Chester Taylor

Never even been a starter and he's RB21 in the rankings.

Lamont Jordan 2004 NYJ 93-479-2, 15-112-0 RB43I guess you can go from never a starter to top 10.

Taylor 2005 BAL 117-487-0, 41-292-1

I'll take my chances

 

[gman8343]

Most overrated is Ahman Green, seen him going anywhere from the 3rd to 6th round, how is a guy who is basically done for good and not worth anything going as anything but a deep flyer in a 16 + team league?

a deep flyer? Last I heard he was still the starting RB for GB unless I missed some recent news and his injury isn't progressing at all.