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lol...try fourth in May!!I'm glad I had my rookie draft back in May. I was able to grab Tim Hightower way back in the late 3rd round.

the carries are realistic, but the 9 TDs are high. the Cardinals are going to still be a pass first red zone team. i could see 5-6 tops.Lets try this for fun .Tim Hightower 2008 stats .Rushing attempt 138 - 630 rush yards - 9 TD's Receiving 20 receptions - 145 rec yards - 1 TD
the carries are realistic, but the 9 TDs are high. the Cardinals are going to still be a pass first red zone team. i could see 5-6 tops.Lets try this for fun .Tim Hightower 2008 stats .Rushing attempt 138 - 630 rush yards - 9 TD's Receiving 20 receptions - 145 rec yards - 1 TD

the carries are realistic, but the 9 TDs are high. the Cardinals are going to still be a pass first red zone team. i could see 5-6 tops.Lets try this for fun .Tim Hightower 2008 stats .Rushing attempt 138 - 630 rush yards - 9 TD's Receiving 20 receptions - 145 rec yards - 1 TD![]()
x2How many rushing TD's did the Cards have as a team last year?Spoken like a true Edge owner9. And I just don't see Edge losing a lot of his goalline carries.

Edge has endzone allergies.Spoken like a true Edge owner9. And I just don't see Edge losing a lot of his goalline carries.![]()

Don't own either. Still a couple of drafts to go though.Spoken like a true Edge owner9. And I just don't see Edge losing a lot of his goalline carries.![]()
Hey, I'm happy as heck to see Hightower do as well as he has in preseason. The Cards need a guy like him. But he is a rookie runningback, running behind a guy that the organization likes, a guy who had 324 carries last year (2nd in the league after Portis at 325). Sure, I could see Hightower getting some touches, and some goalline carries. But do you really think he is worth carrying on your roster if you don't own Edge? And the Cardinals had 9 rushing TD's all last year, and Edge has 7 of them. Do you really think Hightower is going to take all Edge's TD's?I love Hightower. I really do. I'm so happy the guy looks legit. But I just think there is a lot of wishful thinking going on here if people are drafting him expecting to start him sometime this season with Edge staying healthy.I could not disagree more with your post. Hightower will (and is) getting the goalline carries. He'll get a decent amount of TDs approaching the double digit mark as his ceiling. The truth is that we don't know how much they will use him in other situations. Edge himself has said that he thinks that he and Hightower will be "potent 1-2 punch". The staff is comparing how they will use him to Marion Barber. And the beat writers are stating that Edge will only get a max of 2/3 of the carries this year.This is all setting up for Hightower to be MUCH more than just a "handcuff".Yep. That's the main point. If Edge stays healthy, he's not getting benched. He may get pulled in some situations (sometimes at the goal line, etc.), but he won't lose the starting job. The only real reason to grab Hightower is as Edge's handcuff, or in the "hopes" that Edge goes down this year.Ketamine Dreams said:Honestly, if Edge is healthy all year, what can be expected of Hightower as far as carries and goal line chances? Maybe 100 carries? 6 TDs? More? Any value receiving?joffer said:Tanner9919 said:Hightower might be great pickup this season, can't see Edge keeping him off the field, he should see at least 15 carries/gm to start the season, slowly gaining more and more of the starting gig..by week 8, he should be the starting RB..![]()
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It's nice to see a RB like him on the Cardinals isn't it? It's kind of strange actually. We haven't had a guy this explosive in the backfield in forever.I think he is an outstanding dynasty pick, and I agree that in a year or two the guy could be a beast. Now we just have to keep Boldin around, and the offense will be pretty darn good.We had a super-early dynasty rookie draft. I took Hightower with about the 40th overall pick and announced he was the "sleeper of the draft". This was greeted by a room full of laughter and "isn't that the guy from Police Academy?" responses. I was the only guy from Phoenix, so I had the inside dope on him. Glad I did.I have another dynasty rookie draft next weekend, and I think its unlikely that he makes it out of the first round. (12 team league).Ah, what a difference a couple of months makes. Am thinking that the guys that we're laughing July, aren't laughing quite as hard now.I've watched all three preseason Cardinals games in their entirety and followed camp reports religously. This guy is the real-deal. Worst case scenario, he's a goal-line vulture and occasionally spells Edge. Best-case scenario is that he's Edge's successor in a year-or-two and a top 10 back.If you disagree with the "potential top 10 back" assessment, rewatch the highlights of the presason games on NFL.com. Dude is sick. The draw play for a touchdown against the Raiders was nuts. That was against the first stringers still, and it was a sight to see. Editor's Note: For extra cred, make sure to reference Hightower by his college nickname which is "The Bread Truck".
"The Bread Truck"We had a super-early dynasty rookie draft. I took Hightower with about the 40th overall pick and announced he was the "sleeper of the draft". This was greeted by a room full of laughter and "isn't that the guy from Police Academy?" responses. I was the only guy from Phoenix, so I had the inside dope on him. Glad I did.
I have another dynasty rookie draft next weekend, and I think its unlikely that he makes it out of the first round. (12 team league).
Ah, what a difference a couple of months makes. Am thinking that the guys that we're laughing July, aren't laughing quite as hard now.
I've watched all three preseason Cardinals games in their entirety and followed camp reports religously. This guy is the real-deal. Worst case scenario, he's a goal-line vulture and occasionally spells Edge. Best-case scenario is that he's Edge's successor in a year-or-two and a top 10 back.
If you disagree with the "potential top 10 back" assessment, rewatch the highlights of the presason games on NFL.com. Dude is sick. The draw play for a touchdown against the Raiders was nuts. That was against the first stringers still, and it was a sight to see.
Editor's Note: For extra cred, make sure to reference Hightower by his college nickname which is "The Bread Truck".
Absolutely, as a RB 4 or 5.But do you really think he is worth carrying on your roster if you don't own Edge?
Would you draft him as your RB 4 or 5 if you were certain Edge would remain healthy all year? Or are you "hoping" for an Edge injury.whodeywhodey said:Absolutely, as a RB 4 or 5.kutta said:But do you really think he is worth carrying on your roster if you don't own Edge?
Depends on a couple of things. First, is it a redraft league? Probably not. But if it's say a 14 or 16 man redraft league then I would definitely take him. I took him in a dynasty/salary cap/contract league. Signed him to the league minimum for 2 years with an option for a 3rd....ETA I don't own Edge in that league...Would you draft him as your RB 4 or 5 if you were certain Edge would remain healthy all year? Or are you "hoping" for an Edge injury.whodeywhodey said:Absolutely, as a RB 4 or 5.kutta said:But do you really think he is worth carrying on your roster if you don't own Edge?
:bought: Got him in my keeper league as my RB4.Depends on a couple of things. First, is it a redraft league? Probably not. But if it's say a 14 or 16 man redraft league then I would definitely take him. I took him in a dynasty/salary cap/contract league. Signed him to the league minimum for 2 years with an option for a 3rd....ETA I don't own Edge in that league...Would you draft him as your RB 4 or 5 if you were certain Edge would remain healthy all year? Or are you "hoping" for an Edge injury.whodeywhodey said:Absolutely, as a RB 4 or 5.kutta said:But do you really think he is worth carrying on your roster if you don't own Edge?

I'd be all over him in keeper and dynasty leagues.Depends on a couple of things. First, is it a redraft league? Probably not. But if it's say a 14 or 16 man redraft league then I would definitely take him. I took him in a dynasty/salary cap/contract league. Signed him to the league minimum for 2 years with an option for a 3rd....ETA I don't own Edge in that league...Would you draft him as your RB 4 or 5 if you were certain Edge would remain healthy all year? Or are you "hoping" for an Edge injury.whodeywhodey said:Absolutely, as a RB 4 or 5.kutta said:But do you really think he is worth carrying on your roster if you don't own Edge?
71 yards and a TD over the weekend will help cement that notion, but on only 2 carries. You should have no problem snagging him....Just stole Edge at 7.06 and I plan on scooping up Hightower around 12-13 just incase. If you can get both why not? I'm sure Mark Clayton will have tremendous value during rounds 12-13 (NOT!). Most of the guys think JJ Arrington is the #2 in AZ anyways.
Same here.:bought: Got him in my keeper league as my RB4.![]()
A. Green if you own at least one other of the HOU RBs. Hightower if you don't.In a re-draft league, picking up a RB4 on waiver wire....who is better A. Green or Hightower?
Maybe- he's been drafted in all 3 leagues I've drafted for so far though. Higher than I expected in 2 of them.I predict that Tim Hightower will be the #1 waiver wire pickup after week 1.![]()
He's the 2008 Mr. Irrelevant in my league.Nobody thinks that Arrington is #2 in AZ , most people tought arrington would not even make the team .Its not because he had a 71 yd TD run vs a 4th string defense that people think higher of him.Just stole Edge at 7.06 and I plan on scooping up Hightower around 12-13 just incase. If you can get both why not? I'm sure Mark Clayton will have tremendous value during rounds 12-13 (NOT!). Most of the guys think JJ Arrington is the #2 in AZ anyways.
Hightower.In a re-draft league, picking up a RB4 on waiver wire....who is better A. Green or Hightower?
), it was comforting to see Hightower fumble for the second straight game (and lose the fumble this time). Take a seat on the pine, rook.This IS good news for Edge owners.As a nervous Edge owner (he's my RB2), it was comforting to see Hightower fumble for the second straight game (and lose the fumble this time). Take a seat on the pine, rook.
Plus, Hightower apparently missed a blocking assignment, and Leinart got shmeared.Again...wait and see mode on this kid. He is by no means a blue chpper like:McfaddenStewartChris JohnsonMendenhall (who has fumble problems of his own thus far)Edge is still running hard and will be a big part of the offense.
you know it was a bobbled handoff, right? With things like that, it's never clear who is at fault - the RB, the QB, or the coach for continuing to spin the QB carousel. I'm just sayin - it's not like he fumbled on contact.Who would you want as your Goal Line back? A rookie who is putting the ball on the ground? Or a Hall Of Fame Running back who fumbled 10 times in his last 1127 touches?I know people are fishing for sleepers at this time of year, but its time to move on from Hightower. Hes not who you thought he was.
Its just Edge owners looking to find a crack in the situation. The writing is on the wall --- Edge's value takes a huge hit and if this Hightower kid has any success in weeks 1-3 he will get a larger and larger role in the offense as the season progresses.you know it was a bobbled handoff, right? With things like that, it's never clear who is at fault - the RB, the QB, or the coach for continuing to spin the QB carousel. I'm just sayin - it's not like he fumbled on contact.Who would you want as your Goal Line back? A rookie who is putting the ball on the ground? Or a Hall Of Fame Running back who fumbled 10 times in his last 1127 touches?I know people are fishing for sleepers at this time of year, but its time to move on from Hightower. Hes not who you thought he was.
Hey, hey, hey cut that out. You know no one here actually watches the games. We just look at the stat lines and make our conclusions from that. NOW BE GONE!! (he who make sense.)you know it was a bobbled handoff, right? With things like that, it's never clear who is at fault - the RB, the QB, or the coach for continuing to spin the QB carousel. I'm just sayin - it's not like he fumbled on contact.Who would you want as your Goal Line back? A rookie who is putting the ball on the ground? Or a Hall Of Fame Running back who fumbled 10 times in his last 1127 touches?I know people are fishing for sleepers at this time of year, but its time to move on from Hightower. Hes not who you thought he was.
Hightower is by no means writing on the wall at this stage. Edge is their guy this year after that it is open season. No doubt in my mind they draft another back next year.Its just Edge owners looking to find a crack in the situation. The writing is on the wall --- Edge's value takes a huge hit and if this Hightower kid has any success in weeks 1-3 he will get a larger and larger role in the offense as the season progresses.you know it was a bobbled handoff, right? With things like that, it's never clear who is at fault - the RB, the QB, or the coach for continuing to spin the QB carousel. I'm just sayin - it's not like he fumbled on contact.Who would you want as your Goal Line back? A rookie who is putting the ball on the ground? Or a Hall Of Fame Running back who fumbled 10 times in his last 1127 touches?
I know people are fishing for sleepers at this time of year, but its time to move on from Hightower. Hes not who you thought he was.
Why is the rookie getting all the goaline carries then? I'm not saying that Hightower will supplant Edge - just that the writing is there for him to get 10 carries per game as well as all/most the goalline/redzone carries.Hightower is by no means writing on the wall at this stage. Edge is their guy this year after that it is open season. No doubt in my mind they draft another back next year.Its just Edge owners looking to find a crack in the situation. The writing is on the wall --- Edge's value takes a huge hit and if this Hightower kid has any success in weeks 1-3 he will get a larger and larger role in the offense as the season progresses.you know it was a bobbled handoff, right? With things like that, it's never clear who is at fault - the RB, the QB, or the coach for continuing to spin the QB carousel. I'm just sayin - it's not like he fumbled on contact.Who would you want as your Goal Line back? A rookie who is putting the ball on the ground? Or a Hall Of Fame Running back who fumbled 10 times in his last 1127 touches?
I know people are fishing for sleepers at this time of year, but its time to move on from Hightower. Hes not who you thought he was.
When was the last time Edge played signifcant minutes in the pre season? You may be right...but I suspect Edge get's a huge amount of the work...Hightower 10 carries? Not any time soon IMO.Why is the rookie getting all the goaline carries then? I'm not saying that Hightower will supplant Edge - just that the writing is there for him to get 10 carries per game as well as all/most the goalline/redzone carries.Hightower is by no means writing on the wall at this stage. Edge is their guy this year after that it is open season. No doubt in my mind they draft another back next year.Its just Edge owners looking to find a crack in the situation. The writing is on the wall --- Edge's value takes a huge hit and if this Hightower kid has any success in weeks 1-3 he will get a larger and larger role in the offense as the season progresses.you know it was a bobbled handoff, right? With things like that, it's never clear who is at fault - the RB, the QB, or the coach for continuing to spin the QB carousel. I'm just sayin - it's not like he fumbled on contact.Who would you want as your Goal Line back? A rookie who is putting the ball on the ground? Or a Hall Of Fame Running back who fumbled 10 times in his last 1127 touches?
I know people are fishing for sleepers at this time of year, but its time to move on from Hightower. Hes not who you thought he was.
ArizonaAug. 29, 2008 Cardinals rookie RB Hightower making strong impressionBack when he was the Steelers’ offensive coordinator, there was no denying Cardinals head coach Ken Whisenhunt’s fondness for the two-back system, the best example being the 2005 season, when veteran Jerome Bettis provided a very effective counterpunch to the younger and faster Willie Parker. The way we hear it, the Cardinals quietly are salivating over the potential this coming season of a two-back attack featuring veteran Edgerrin James, in his customary featured role, and rookie Tim Hightower, in an enticing supporting role. With most of the focus in the desert this preseason on whether or not Matt Leinart or Kurt Warner will be the starting QB, as well as disgruntled WR Anquan Boldin’s contract concerns, the steady emergence of Hightower has been relatively overlooked — but certainly not by Whisenhunt, offensive coordinator Todd Haley or especially RB coach Maurice Carthon, who we hear was instantly impressed by the fifth-round rookie out of Richmond. Team insiders tell us they could see Hightower, who has shown a surprisingly quick burst and big-play ability, getting as many as 8-10 carries per game as a change-of-pace complement to James. Daily team observers also tell us the offensive line’s improved run blocking also could be considered legitimate reason for optimism.