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Who will be Andrew Luck's #1 WR in 2014? (1 Viewer)
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Andy Dufresne
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Jeremy Maclin
lod01
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Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Maclin has been the #2 in the pecking order in Philly but I think he could make a fine #1.
I think he's the best FA option to fill the role, anyway.
I think he's the best FA option to fill the role, anyway.
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Carter_Can_Fly
Footballguy
This last month of the season is important for some of these young WR's on the Colts. Da'Rick could win himself a starting spot for next year. DHB is gone and rightfully so. Hilton is not a WR 1, but is a nice piece opposite a WR 1. You then have a couple of TE's in Allen and Fleener who will continue to grow with Luck. Wayne will be coming back from an injury and at 35 is a big question mark. Brazil does not really scream starting WR in the nfl. The end of the season will go a long way in determining what the Colts plan on doing via Free agency and in the draft at the receiving spot.
Interseptopus
Footballguy
Talk to some around here and Rogers is the second coming of Jerry Rice 
I believe Wayne is done after this year for his contract? Maybe not, I thought he was...
Indy will likely sign a vet WR like Decker, Sanders or James Jones. They should. No one on that team is ready to step up NOW and be a true cut #1. Hilton is a good #2, Rogers is a great slot WR. They are missing a stud WR. Demarius Thomas was a FA I thought too? They need a big body like that.
IMO, they get someone else and go at it with him, Hilton, Rogers as their top 3. Could be a very solid group.
I believe Wayne is done after this year for his contract? Maybe not, I thought he was...
Indy will likely sign a vet WR like Decker, Sanders or James Jones. They should. No one on that team is ready to step up NOW and be a true cut #1. Hilton is a good #2, Rogers is a great slot WR. They are missing a stud WR. Demarius Thomas was a FA I thought too? They need a big body like that.
IMO, they get someone else and go at it with him, Hilton, Rogers as their top 3. Could be a very solid group.
Interseptopus
Footballguy
Anyone else I should grab? Maybe Brazil? Just to be sure?
Hilton is not a 1. He's a good 2. Rogers I don't think has the size or the intelligence/discipline to be a true cut #1 just yet.
petenice15
Footballguy
Demaryius was a 1st round pick by Denver and Rodgers is not a slot receiver at 6'3".Talk to some around here and Rogers is the second coming of Jerry Rice
I believe Wayne is done after this year for his contract? Maybe not, I thought he was...
Indy will likely sign a vet WR like Decker, Sanders or James Jones. They should. No one on that team is ready to step up NOW and be a true cut #1. Hilton is a good #2, Rogers is a great slot WR. They are missing a stud WR. Demarius Thomas was a FA I thought too? They need a big body like that.
IMO, they get someone else and go at it with him, Hilton, Rogers as their top 3. Could be a very solid group.
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battlebaby
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Wayne has another year on his contract. DHB is gone after this season.Talk to some around here and Rogers is the second coming of Jerry Rice
I believe Wayne is done after this year for his contract? Maybe not, I thought he was...
Indy will likely sign a vet WR like Decker, Sanders or James Jones. They should. No one on that team is ready to step up NOW and be a true cut #1. Hilton is a good #2, Rogers is a great slot WR. They are missing a stud WR. Demarius Thomas was a FA I thought too? They need a big body like that.
IMO, they get someone else and go at it with him, Hilton, Rogers as their top 3. Could be a very solid group.
Colts could draft a WR with their first pick...which is in the 2nd round. Decker will cost too much for them to pursue him in FA...maybe Nicks or Sanders, but that depends on how the Colts WRs finish the year. Wayne, Hilton, Rogers and Brazill with a drafted WR and both Fleener and Allen at TE seems like a pretty good young receiving core to me...perfect fit for their up-and-coming offense. They need to focus heavily on repairing their defense in the offseason.
ryno1980
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Hilton is the slotDemaryius was a 1st round pick by Denver and Rodgers is not a slot receiver at 6'3".Talk to some around here and Rogers is the second coming of Jerry Rice
I believe Wayne is done after this year for his contract? Maybe not, I thought he was...
Indy will likely sign a vet WR like Decker, Sanders or James Jones. They should. No one on that team is ready to step up NOW and be a true cut #1. Hilton is a good #2, Rogers is a great slot WR. They are missing a stud WR. Demarius Thomas was a FA I thought too? They need a big body like that.
IMO, they get someone else and go at it with him, Hilton, Rogers as their top 3. Could be a very solid group.
Carter_Can_Fly
Footballguy
Rogers is a great slot WR? Can you elaborate please.Talk to some around here and Rogers is the second coming of Jerry Rice
I believe Wayne is done after this year for his contract? Maybe not, I thought he was...
Indy will likely sign a vet WR like Decker, Sanders or James Jones. They should. No one on that team is ready to step up NOW and be a true cut #1. Hilton is a good #2, Rogers is a great slot WR. They are missing a stud WR. Demarius Thomas was a FA I thought too? They need a big body like that.
IMO, they get someone else and go at it with him, Hilton, Rogers as their top 3. Could be a very solid group.
battlebaby
Footballguy
Brazill will be their slot guy along with Wayne next year. Rogers has all the physical attributes of a WR1, he just has the mind of a potato.
jurb26
Footballguy
Rogers had a nice game but people need to pump the breaks for sure. He's a long shot project still and Indy needs a real WR1.
They also need oline help, badly. I'd rather see them invest there to be honest. I think Allen could be a difference maker at TE and he will be back next year.
They also need oline help, badly. I'd rather see them invest there to be honest. I think Allen could be a difference maker at TE and he will be back next year.
Interseptopus
Footballguy
I think I was remembering to another thread when we were talking about upcoming FAs for Denver, like in a couple of years. I think it was Julius.Demaryius was a 1st round pick by Denver and Rodgers is not a slot receiver at 6'3".Talk to some around here and Rogers is the second coming of Jerry Rice
I believe Wayne is done after this year for his contract? Maybe not, I thought he was...
Indy will likely sign a vet WR like Decker, Sanders or James Jones. They should. No one on that team is ready to step up NOW and be a true cut #1. Hilton is a good #2, Rogers is a great slot WR. They are missing a stud WR. Demarius Thomas was a FA I thought too? They need a big body like that.
IMO, they get someone else and go at it with him, Hilton, Rogers as their top 3. Could be a very solid group.
So if a WR is above 6'0 he cannot be a slot WR? He has the ideal speed to be a slot guy, and his height gives him an even bigger advantage over nickel DBs. He is best served in the slot. You think he's going to go from practice squad to #1 WR in 9 months? Ok.
Interseptopus
Footballguy
Yeah I didnt know if it was a 2 or 3 year deal. Wayne obviously gets his starting position back. They have hilton. Brazill has earned a spot. Rogers will have a spot. And people are talking about them drafting another guy. Seems kind of crowded. Good, but crowded.Wayne has another year on his contract. DHB is gone after this season.Colts could draft a WR with their first pick...which is in the 2nd round. Decker will cost too much for them to pursue him in FA...maybe Nicks or Sanders, but that depends on how the Colts WRs finish the year. Wayne, Hilton, Rogers and Brazill with a drafted WR and both Fleener and Allen at TE seems like a pretty good young receiving core to me...perfect fit for their up-and-coming offense. They need to focus heavily on repairing their defense in the offseason.Talk to some around here and Rogers is the second coming of Jerry Rice
I believe Wayne is done after this year for his contract? Maybe not, I thought he was...
Indy will likely sign a vet WR like Decker, Sanders or James Jones. They should. No one on that team is ready to step up NOW and be a true cut #1. Hilton is a good #2, Rogers is a great slot WR. They are missing a stud WR. Demarius Thomas was a FA I thought too? They need a big body like that.
IMO, they get someone else and go at it with him, Hilton, Rogers as their top 3. Could be a very solid group.
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Carter_Can_Fly
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If Rogers matures and progresses he has the body type to play all over the field. You line up great WR's inside, outside, stack them, put them in the slot etc.I think I was remembering to another thread when we were talking about upcoming FAs for Denver, like in a couple of years. I think it was Julius.Demaryius was a 1st round pick by Denver and Rodgers is not a slot receiver at 6'3".Talk to some around here and Rogers is the second coming of Jerry Rice
I believe Wayne is done after this year for his contract? Maybe not, I thought he was...
Indy will likely sign a vet WR like Decker, Sanders or James Jones. They should. No one on that team is ready to step up NOW and be a true cut #1. Hilton is a good #2, Rogers is a great slot WR. They are missing a stud WR. Demarius Thomas was a FA I thought too? They need a big body like that.
IMO, they get someone else and go at it with him, Hilton, Rogers as their top 3. Could be a very solid group.
So if a WR is above 6'0 he cannot be a slot WR? He has the ideal speed to be a slot guy, and his height gives him an even bigger advantage over nickel DBs. He is best served in the slot. You think he's going to go from practice squad to #1 WR in 9 months? Ok.
battlebaby
Footballguy
Might be crowded for a year...Wayne will probably retire after next season, though. Order of job security would probably be: Hilton, drafted WR (if it happens), Rogers, Brazill. I like Brazill, and obviously the Colts do too...but Rogers brings a lot more upside and just needs to keep showing his talent this year to secure his spot next year.Yeah I didnt know if it was a 2 or 3 year deal. Wayne obviously gets his starting position back. They have hilton. Brazill has earned a spot. Rogers will have a spot. And people are talking about them drafting another guy. Seems kind of crowded. Good, but crowded.Wayne has another year on his contract. DHB is gone after this season.Colts could draft a WR with their first pick...which is in the 2nd round. Decker will cost too much for them to pursue him in FA...maybe Nicks or Sanders, but that depends on how the Colts WRs finish the year. Wayne, Hilton, Rogers and Brazill with a drafted WR and both Fleener and Allen at TE seems like a pretty good young receiving core to me...perfect fit for their up-and-coming offense. They need to focus heavily on repairing their defense in the offseason.Talk to some around here and Rogers is the second coming of Jerry Rice
I believe Wayne is done after this year for his contract? Maybe not, I thought he was...
Indy will likely sign a vet WR like Decker, Sanders or James Jones. They should. No one on that team is ready to step up NOW and be a true cut #1. Hilton is a good #2, Rogers is a great slot WR. They are missing a stud WR. Demarius Thomas was a FA I thought too? They need a big body like that.
IMO, they get someone else and go at it with him, Hilton, Rogers as their top 3. Could be a very solid group.
There's a bias against Rogers because he was an UDFA, but he went undrafted because of character concerns, not because of talent. He was graded as a 1st-round talent, but the character concerns coupled with a decline in his performance after he transferred to a college conference where he should have completely obliterated the opposition were both such red flags for scouts that nobody wanted to touch him. But character concerns can be addressed, and being on a team with a great leader like Luck and a player's coach like Pagano is the best situation for Rogers. He's set up to succeed.
lod01
Footballguy
Someone will make that disastrous move but I don't see the Colts doing it. They like what they have. Much more likely adding thru the draft if the WR's keep it up thru the end of the year.
Carter_Can_Fly
Footballguy
Very good WR's can help young QB's a lot. Luck was having the worst stretch of his young career over the last 3 weeks. He had lost Wayne and DHB was dropping balls and Hilton was failing to gain seperation or create plays. Luck was again struggling in the first quarter of the Cincy game and DHB dropped another ball. What happened to help Luck open up the game and throw for his most yards and td passes in a game this year? Rogers took a simple slant pattern and broke 2 tackles and ran in for a 69 yard TD. He was open a lot in the game and you could see Luck and the passing game open up with his presence. Brazil was able to get free and Fleener was running more freely. I think it would be foolish to overreact to one game, but you there was a night and day difference with Rogers in the ball game getting all the reps.
FUBAR
Footballguy
I like Maclin as much as almost anyone, but why wouldn't Nicks be the better fit?
lod01
Footballguy
Read this. Not sure of what this former coach knows but he says Rogers football IQ is top notch. Discipline and off the field is my #1 concern. He spun the ball on the ground after getting knocked outta bounds yesterday and then again later.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2013/04/16/darick-rogers-nfl-draft/2089425/
As far as the 2nd coming of Jerry Rice, now that his name has been mentioned. That is what I see when he has the ball in his hands. He looks as close to Rice as I have ever seen. I say 'looks like Rice with the ball in his hands.' He's not Rice, he's not close. He looks like Rice.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BHOXRyDLuw
Yeah, it's highlights but 4:20-4:35 are Rice like catches.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujDgel3evAI
:058 is Rice like RAC
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petenice15
Footballguy
If you or I got signed to the practice squad and became a #1 in 9 months it would be a miracle. But just bc Rogers didn't get drafted, doesn't mean he can't be a #1 and he may not be. But the fact remains at 6'3" 220 with 4.38 speed and a track record of leading the SEC in receiving leads me to believe the talent is in there somewhere. I'm not anointing him or giving him the starting gig just yet, but if Pagano and Luck like the kid and he works hard, crazier things have happened.I think I was remembering to another thread when we were talking about upcoming FAs for Denver, like in a couple of years. I think it was Julius. So if a WR is above 6'0 he cannot be a slot WR? He has the ideal speed to be a slot guy, and his height gives him an even bigger advantage over nickel DBs. He is best served in the slot. You think he's going to go from practice squad to #1 WR in 9 months? Ok.Demaryius was a 1st round pick by Denver and Rodgers is not a slot receiver at 6'3".Talk to some around here and Rogers is the second coming of Jerry Rice
I believe Wayne is done after this year for his contract? Maybe not, I thought he was...
Indy will likely sign a vet WR like Decker, Sanders or James Jones. They should. No one on that team is ready to step up NOW and be a true cut #1. Hilton is a good #2, Rogers is a great slot WR. They are missing a stud WR. Demarius Thomas was a FA I thought too? They need a big body like that.
IMO, they get someone else and go at it with him, Hilton, Rogers as their top 3. Could be a very solid group.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
lod01
Footballguy
EBF
Footballguy
I'll guess that Hilton will still lead the team in receiving yards. I don't know the particulars of Wayne's contract situation, but I would think both parties might be willing to compromise to bring him back. Rogers should be viewed as a project at this point and they have nothing beyond those three, so I think they would be wise to use one of their first few picks on another WR prospect. Or at the very least mine the late rounds for someone who can really play.
They could be okay next year overall with a group of Allen, Fleener, Hilton, Bionic Wayne, and Rogers.
They could be okay next year overall with a group of Allen, Fleener, Hilton, Bionic Wayne, and Rogers.
Interseptopus
Footballguy
Darrius Heyward Bey:6'2If you or I got signed to the practice squad and became a #1 in 9 months it would be a miracle. But just bc Rogers didn't get drafted, doesn't mean he can't be a #1 and he may not be. But the fact remains at 6'3" 220 with 4.38 speed and a track record of leading the SEC in receiving leads me to believe the talent is in there somewhere. I'm not anointing him or giving him the starting gig just yet, but if Pagano and Luck like the kid and he works hard, crazier things have happened.I think I was remembering to another thread when we were talking about upcoming FAs for Denver, like in a couple of years. I think it was Julius. So if a WR is above 6'0 he cannot be a slot WR? He has the ideal speed to be a slot guy, and his height gives him an even bigger advantage over nickel DBs. He is best served in the slot. You think he's going to go from practice squad to #1 WR in 9 months? Ok.Demaryius was a 1st round pick by Denver and Rodgers is not a slot receiver at 6'3".Talk to some around here and Rogers is the second coming of Jerry Rice
I believe Wayne is done after this year for his contract? Maybe not, I thought he was...
Indy will likely sign a vet WR like Decker, Sanders or James Jones. They should. No one on that team is ready to step up NOW and be a true cut #1. Hilton is a good #2, Rogers is a great slot WR. They are missing a stud WR. Demarius Thomas was a FA I thought too? They need a big body like that.
IMO, they get someone else and go at it with him, Hilton, Rogers as their top 3. Could be a very solid group.
219 lbs
40 yard dash: 4.25
Rogers:
6'3
220
4.38
Just sayin'
Size isn't everything. There are intangibles that come into play, big time for Rogers
It would be awesome if he did turn out to be a #1 WR next year. I try to be skeptical because I've been burned by these types of predictions in the past. The shark pool is where we get predictions like this and stay ahead of the competition. I just think Rogers is a year away. I think it makes more sense. Like it was said, crazier things have happened. I plan on drafting Rogers next year, or I might grab him before the end of the season and keep him for my last pick in the draft. So yes, I hope he does very well... I just think he could be a year off. In his case I'll go by the WR year 3 guideline
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fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
Marquise Lee
battlebaby
Footballguy
I don't think Lee will make it out of the 1st round. By the time the Colts pick, best WR on the board will probably be someone like Odell Beckham.
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
Think he can make it down to the early mid 20's... He'll be the third off the board - Jets will (should) use a first rounder on Evans/Watkins... The Steelers/Ravens also have needs - I hope Indy picks ahead of SF!
Unless balt/pitt/nyj all grab WRs, he could def still be there.
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jurb26
Footballguy
I'm hoping Jarvis Landry makes it to Indy.
battlebaby
Footballguy
Colts don't have a pick until the 2nd round...they traded their 1st round pick for Richardson.
pizzatyme
Footballguy
More importantly, who will be his OC???
My guess is if Rogers continues to produce, he is the new #1. This would help to offset the Richardson fiasco trade. Then the Colts can either get Reggie Wayne back or get a moderate priced FA WR. Then devote the draft to O Line and DBs.
My guess is if Rogers continues to produce, he is the new #1. This would help to offset the Richardson fiasco trade. Then the Colts can either get Reggie Wayne back or get a moderate priced FA WR. Then devote the draft to O Line and DBs.
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
lod01
Footballguy
And they got bigger issues than WR. This draft has a ton of guys all at the same level of skill. OL & D are their huge issues.
battlebaby
Footballguy
Completely agree. I don't see them spending a 2nd round pick on anything but a DE or CB. Defense just has too many issues and the defensive talent in the 2nd round is good.
LawFitz
Footballguy
Rogers 6'3'' 220Talk to some around here and Rogers is the second coming of Jerry Rice
I believe Wayne is done after this year for his contract? Maybe not, I thought he was...
Indy will likely sign a vet WR like Decker, Sanders or James Jones. They should. No one on that team is ready to step up NOW and be a true cut #1. Hilton is a good #2, Rogers is a great slot WR. They are missing a stud WR. Demarius Thomas was a FA I thought too? They need a big body like that.
IMO, they get someone else and go at it with him, Hilton, Rogers as their top 3. Could be a very solid group.
Thomas 6'3'' 229
voiceofunreason
Footballguy
Too many problems on the Colts to pay a fortune for a free agent wr. I think it's Rogers at this point. If he doesn't work out they are in deep trouble.
PS- I think Allen is a great sleeper pick if he comes back fully healthy. Fleener just isn't very good and Allen looked pretty solid as a rookie.
battlebaby
Footballguy
No, Hilton's a WR2. He just can't carry a WR1 load...he's more of a speedy deep-threat WR. He works a lot better with a true WR1 to take defensive attention away from him...if Hilton sees single coverage, he can beat it and make big plays for Luck. He's definitely a WR you want to own in dynasty... Luck will continue to improve and if Rogers and Brazill continue to step up, Hilton will be great down the stretch and is set up to have a big year next season.
mr roboto
Footballguy
Rogers 6'3'' 220Talk to some around here and Rogers is the second coming of Jerry Rice
I believe Wayne is done after this year for his contract? Maybe not, I thought he was...
Indy will likely sign a vet WR like Decker, Sanders or James Jones. They should. No one on that team is ready to step up NOW and be a true cut #1. Hilton is a good #2, Rogers is a great slot WR. They are missing a stud WR. Demarius Thomas was a FA I thought too? They need a big body like that.
IMO, they get someone else and go at it with him, Hilton, Rogers as their top 3. Could be a very solid group.
Thomas 6'3'' 229
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