Who wins the NFL MVP (2014)? (1 Viewer)

[Run It Up]

Can't see how Brady makes this list he's doing what he typically does, the team isn't winning simply because of him..

he's not even the MVP of his own team, that would be either Gronk or Revis..and I'd put Gronk on the NFL MVP list..he changes everything opposing teams do, he makes his own team infinitely better..

I agree Gronk is on the list, somewhere ahead of JJ Watt and somewhere well below the line of people that actually have a chance of winning it.

You realize that Brady has been successfully spreading the ball around all year right? Theres a pretty good chance they finish with three 1000 yard receivers.

 

[JIslander]

Can't see how Brady makes this list he's doing what he typically does, the team isn't winning simply because of him..

he's not even the MVP of his own team, that would be either Gronk or Revis..and I'd put Gronk on the NFL MVP list..he changes everything opposing teams do, he makes his own team infinitely better..

I agree Gronk is on the list, somewhere ahead of JJ Watt and somewhere well below the line of people that actually have a chance of winning it.

You realize that Brady has been successfully spreading the ball around all year right? Theres a pretty good chance they finish with three 1000 yard receivers.

But as Tanner noted... Manning has had to deal with a lot of adversity/fluctuations in weekly starting offense. Brady's had a stable RB and WR corps all season if I'm not mistaken.

 

[Boston]

Can't see how Brady makes this list he's doing what he typically does, the team isn't winning simply because of him..

he's not even the MVP of his own team, that would be either Gronk or Revis..and I'd put Gronk on the NFL MVP list..he changes everything opposing teams do, he makes his own team infinitely better..

I agree Gronk is on the list, somewhere ahead of JJ Watt and somewhere well below the line of people that actually have a chance of winning it.You realize that Brady has been successfully spreading the ball around all year right? Theres a pretty good chance they finish with three 1000 yard receivers.

But as Tanner noted... Manning has had to deal with a lot of adversity/fluctuations in weekly starting offense. Brady's had a stable RB and WR corps all season if I'm not mistaken.

Ridley went down early and their current starter was cut by the Steelers a few weeks ago...Gronk was not Gronk early and it took awhile for LaFell to find his grove...definitely not the toughest stuff to deal with but I would not call it stable although it is feeling that way right now...

 

[Manster]

I think Romo proved he's the at least the MVP on his team. Highest completion percentage for the year so far at 70. Highest passer rating at 114 and change.

79% completions in December. 10 TD's and 0 int's. 3-0 record. He's playing QB as well, if not better, than anyone right now.

I still don't see him winning it, but its nice to be able to say the above instead of talking about another December collapse!

 

[TDorBust]

I think Romo proved he's the at least the MVP on his team. Highest completion percentage for the year so far at 70. Highest passer rating at 114 and change.

79% completions in December. 10 TD's and 0 int's. 3-0 record. He's playing QB as well, if not better, than anyone right now.

I still don't see him winning it, but its nice to be able to say the above instead of talking about another December collapse!

Sorry but I will still vote for Murray on that team. This is not called December MVP its call the 2014 season MVP.

 

[Ilov80s]

I think Romo proved he's the at least the MVP on his team. Highest completion percentage for the year so far at 70. Highest passer rating at 114 and change.

79% completions in December. 10 TD's and 0 int's. 3-0 record. He's playing QB as well, if not better, than anyone right now.

I still don't see him winning it, but its nice to be able to say the above instead of talking about another December collapse!

Sorry but I will still vote for Murray on that team. This is not called December MVP its call the 2014 season MVP.

The oline is likely the real MVP here, but Romo has been great all year. 32 TDs 8 picks.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

edited... this was started over a week ago. need a current one.

 

[Manster]

I think Romo proved he's the at least the MVP on his team. Highest completion percentage for the year so far at 70. Highest passer rating at 114 and change.

79% completions in December. 10 TD's and 0 int's. 3-0 record. He's playing QB as well, if not better, than anyone right now.

I still don't see him winning it, but its nice to be able to say the above instead of talking about another December collapse!

Sorry but I will still vote for Murray on that team. This is not called December MVP its call the 2014 season MVP.

Before the Indy game I think Murray and Romo were neck and neck. After the game, Romo is the MVP of the Cowboys. The starters are playing against the skins. If Romo lights it up, he has a real shot at he MVP........I prolly just jinxed him, and he'll have a 3 pick night.

 

[jurb26]

Rodgers has a chance to solidify the MVP next week vs. the #2 defense in the NFL.

 

[BassNBrew]

Winning team - check

Clearly better than very one else at your position - check

Yardage and TDs - check

My vote goes to Gronk.

 

[TDorBust]

Winning team - check

Clearly better than very one else at your position - check

Yardage and TDs - check

My vote goes to Gronk.

A tightend will never win unless Watt starts playing TE full time.

This is a QB league and MVP really only belongs with a QB. The best chance you ever had and will have likely was AP when he basically singlehanded took the Vikings to the playoffs. For a non QB to win you have to literally see the player make his team win.

People talk about Watt and others and I just don't see it.

 

[SteelerMurf]

And I don't think any PIT guy has a chance, if for no other reason than it's not really clear who would even be the frontrunner for team MVP.

The big 3 is just too good to distinguish. Bell will win team MVP and should.

 

[SteelerMurf]

And I don't think any PIT guy has a chance, if for no other reason than it's not really clear who would even be the frontrunner for team MVP.

The big 3 is just too good to distinguish. Bell will win team MVP and should.

Updated he has been named team MVP by players

 

[dhockster]

Winning team - check

Clearly better than very one else at your position - check

Yardage and TDs - check

My vote goes to Gronk.

Oh, I thought you were voting for Watt.

 

[dhockster]

Think about Watt for a second. Think about his teammates on defense. Is there anyone on that defense that you have to worry about other than Watt? That would be a gigantic NO. So if you are playing against the Texans, you do everything you can to keep Watt from beating you. You double team him. You triple team him. You run away from him. Teams have done this all year against him. And yet he puts up great numbers, and more importantly, he affects almost every play in some way. While I don't think he should get that much credit for his 3 receiving TD's, think about those for a second. 2 of them were phenomenal catches. One was fade that he had to leap up and catch, get his feet down, while being defended pretty well. The other was thrown low and to his left and he had to dive and make the catch.

While the Texans record is not much to look at, there is not much of a supporting cast and THEY ARE iN THE FIRST YEAR OF A NEW SYSTEM ON OFFENSE AND ON DEFENSE!. I shudder to think where the Texans would be this year without Watt. I know he probably won't win (I think Rodgers will) but he really does deserve it. If you are saying he doesn't and you have not watched much of the Texans this year, go back and watch some of his play. it is pretty amazing.

 

[dhockster]

Can't see how Brady makes this list he's doing what he typically does, the team isn't winning simply because of him..

he's not even the MVP of his own team, that would be either Gronk or Revis..and I'd put Gronk on the NFL MVP list..he changes everything opposing teams do, he makes his own team infinitely better..

JJ Watt should NOT be on the list of MVP candidates.his team is not headed to the playoffs, who cares if he scores some TDs on offense.he's not in the top 5 in tackles, and is 3rd, not first, on the sack list for 2014..sorry, he doesn't deserve to be in the conversation.

Manning has gone through a lot of adversity this season, but still has the Broncos flyin' high!

after losing two RBs, two WR's , a TE, now back to a 3rd string RB in CJ Anderson. and they're still winning..

can you nominate an entire offensive line for MVP? because if you can, the hands-down winner is the Dallas Cowboys O-line..

Russell Wilson has him team headed back to the SB, they've had a tougher road than any other SB winning team in recent history, and they've only lost 4 games..he's a dynamic player who is grossly underrated.

1. Peyton Manning,deservedly so..

1a. Russell Wilson

2. Cowboys o-line

3. Gronkowski

You have lost all credibility based on the bolded above. You either have not watched Watt Play this year or you are demented.

When do DE's lead the league in Tackles? When, other than HOFer Bruce Smith, do 3-4 DE's lead the league in sacks? Watt affects almost every play while being double and triple teamed with very little supporting cast around him.

He probably won't win, but he definitely deserves to be in the conversation.

 

[tdmills]

I think Romo proved he's the at least the MVP on his team. Highest completion percentage for the year so far at 70. Highest passer rating at 114 and change.

79% completions in December. 10 TD's and 0 int's. 3-0 record. He's playing QB as well, if not better, than anyone right now.

I still don't see him winning it, but its nice to be able to say the above instead of talking about another December collapse!

Sorry but I will still vote for Murray on that team. This is not called December MVP its call the 2014 season MVP.

Romo is #1 in the NFL in completion %, Yards per attempt, QB rating....those are from the season not just December.

 

[SteelerMurf]

There is no runaway candidate.

 

[NE_REVIVAL]

If GB beats Det like I assume they will then Rodgers will win with Brady 2nd.

 

[Manster]

Think about Watt for a second. Think about his teammates on defense. Is there anyone on that defense that you have to worry about other than Watt? That would be a gigantic NO. So if you are playing against the Texans, you do everything you can to keep Watt from beating you. You double team him. You triple team him. You run away from him. Teams have done this all year against him. And yet he puts up great numbers, and more importantly, he affects almost every play in some way. While I don't think he should get that much credit for his 3 receiving TD's, think about those for a second. 2 of them were phenomenal catches. One was fade that he had to leap up and catch, get his feet down, while being defended pretty well. The other was thrown low and to his left and he had to dive and make the catch.

While the Texans record is not much to look at, there is not much of a supporting cast and THEY ARE iN THE FIRST YEAR OF A NEW SYSTEM ON OFFENSE AND ON DEFENSE!. I shudder to think where the Texans would be this year without Watt. I know he probably won't win (I think Rodgers will) but he really does deserve it. If you are saying he doesn't and you have not watched much of the Texans this year, go back and watch some of his play. it is pretty amazing.

Watt should definitely be in the conversation for MVP. Arguably the best player in football right now.

 

[Manster]

Can't see how Brady makes this list he's doing what he typically does, the team isn't winning simply because of him..

he's not even the MVP of his own team, that would be either Gronk or Revis..and I'd put Gronk on the NFL MVP list..he changes everything opposing teams do, he makes his own team infinitely better..

JJ Watt should NOT be on the list of MVP candidates.his team is not headed to the playoffs, who cares if he scores some TDs on offense.he's not in the top 5 in tackles, and is 3rd, not first, on the sack list for 2014..sorry, he doesn't deserve to be in the conversation.

Manning has gone through a lot of adversity this season, but still has the Broncos flyin' high!

after losing two RBs, two WR's , a TE, now back to a 3rd string RB in CJ Anderson. and they're still winning..

can you nominate an entire offensive line for MVP? because if you can, the hands-down winner is the Dallas Cowboys O-line..

Russell Wilson has him team headed back to the SB, they've had a tougher road than any other SB winning team in recent history, and they've only lost 4 games..he's a dynamic player who is grossly underrated.

1. Peyton Manning,deservedly so..

1a. Russell Wilson

2. Cowboys o-line

3. Gronkowski

You have lost all credibility based on the bolded above. You either have not watched Watt Play this year or you are demented.

When do DE's lead the league in Tackles? When, other than HOFer Bruce Smith, do 3-4 DE's lead the league in sacks? Watt affects almost every play while being double and triple teamed with very little supporting cast around him.

He probably won't win, but he definitely deserves to be in the conversation.

Peyton aint winning after his performance last night. 4 picks........two of them pick sixes...ouch

 

[Manster]

I think Romo proved he's the at least the MVP on his team. Highest completion percentage for the year so far at 70. Highest passer rating at 114 and change.

79% completions in December. 10 TD's and 0 int's. 3-0 record. He's playing QB as well, if not better, than anyone right now.

I still don't see him winning it, but its nice to be able to say the above instead of talking about another December collapse!

Sorry but I will still vote for Murray on that team. This is not called December MVP its call the 2014 season MVP.

Romo is #1 in the NFL in completion %, Yards per attempt, QB rating....those are from the season not just December.

Exactly. Maybe my wording was confusing.

The emphasis on December was simply to show that he's been arguably the best QB in the NFL in December. A time when the Cowboys, and Romo have typically come up small. He's been solid all year, but ending on a high note always helps your cause.

 

[dhockster]

Can't see how Brady makes this list he's doing what he typically does, the team isn't winning simply because of him..

he's not even the MVP of his own team, that would be either Gronk or Revis..and I'd put Gronk on the NFL MVP list..he changes everything opposing teams do, he makes his own team infinitely better..

JJ Watt should NOT be on the list of MVP candidates.his team is not headed to the playoffs, who cares if he scores some TDs on offense.he's not in the top 5 in tackles, and is 3rd, not first, on the sack list for 2014..sorry, he doesn't deserve to be in the conversation.

Manning has gone through a lot of adversity this season, but still has the Broncos flyin' high!

after losing two RBs, two WR's , a TE, now back to a 3rd string RB in CJ Anderson. and they're still winning..

can you nominate an entire offensive line for MVP? because if you can, the hands-down winner is the Dallas Cowboys O-line..

Russell Wilson has him team headed back to the SB, they've had a tougher road than any other SB winning team in recent history, and they've only lost 4 games..he's a dynamic player who is grossly underrated.

1. Peyton Manning,deservedly so..

1a. Russell Wilson

2. Cowboys o-line

3. Gronkowski

You have lost all credibility based on the bolded above. You either have not watched Watt Play this year or you are demented.

When do DE's lead the league in Tackles? When, other than HOFer Bruce Smith, do 3-4 DE's lead the league in sacks? Watt affects almost every play while being double and triple teamed with very little supporting cast around him.

He probably won't win, but he definitely deserves to be in the conversation.

Peyton aint winning after his performance last night. 4 picks........two of pick sixes

Agree on Peyton. For the first time last night, he started to look his age. He may go downhill quickly. He may play like Eli next year.

 

[Jeremy]

Can't see how Brady makes this list he's doing what he typically does, the team isn't winning simply because of him..

he's not even the MVP of his own team, that would be either Gronk or Revis..and I'd put Gronk on the NFL MVP list..he changes everything opposing teams do, he makes his own team infinitely better..

JJ Watt should NOT be on the list of MVP candidates.his team is not headed to the playoffs, who cares if he scores some TDs on offense.he's not in the top 5 in tackles, and is 3rd, not first, on the sack list for 2014..sorry, he doesn't deserve to be in the conversation.

Manning has gone through a lot of adversity this season, but still has the Broncos flyin' high!

after losing two RBs, two WR's , a TE, now back to a 3rd string RB in CJ Anderson. and they're still winning..

can you nominate an entire offensive line for MVP? because if you can, the hands-down winner is the Dallas Cowboys O-line..

Russell Wilson has him team headed back to the SB, they've had a tougher road than any other SB winning team in recent history, and they've only lost 4 games..he's a dynamic player who is grossly underrated.

1. Peyton Manning,deservedly so..

1a. Russell Wilson

2. Cowboys o-line

3. Gronkowski

You have lost all credibility based on the bolded above. You either have not watched Watt Play this year or you are demented.

When do DE's lead the league in Tackles? When, other than HOFer Bruce Smith, do 3-4 DE's lead the league in sacks? Watt affects almost every play while being double and triple teamed with very little supporting cast around him.

He probably won't win, but he definitely deserves to be in the conversation.

Peyton aint winning after his performance last night. 4 picks........two of pick sixes

Agree on Peyton. For the first time last night, he started to look his age. He may go downhill quickly. He may play like Eli next year.

Maybe, but I made that same assumption about Brady after he started slow this year. Sure looks like he's lost something on the fastball, though.

 

[Run It Up]

Can't see how Brady makes this list he's doing what he typically does, the team isn't winning simply because of him..

he's not even the MVP of his own team, that would be either Gronk or Revis..and I'd put Gronk on the NFL MVP list..he changes everything opposing teams do, he makes his own team infinitely better..

JJ Watt should NOT be on the list of MVP candidates.his team is not headed to the playoffs, who cares if he scores some TDs on offense.he's not in the top 5 in tackles, and is 3rd, not first, on the sack list for 2014..sorry, he doesn't deserve to be in the conversation.

Manning has gone through a lot of adversity this season, but still has the Broncos flyin' high!

after losing two RBs, two WR's , a TE, now back to a 3rd string RB in CJ Anderson. and they're still winning..

can you nominate an entire offensive line for MVP? because if you can, the hands-down winner is the Dallas Cowboys O-line..

Russell Wilson has him team headed back to the SB, they've had a tougher road than any other SB winning team in recent history, and they've only lost 4 games..he's a dynamic player who is grossly underrated.

1. Peyton Manning,deservedly so..

1a. Russell Wilson

2. Cowboys o-line

3. Gronkowski

You have lost all credibility based on the bolded above. You either have not watched Watt Play this year or you are demented.

When do DE's lead the league in Tackles? When, other than HOFer Bruce Smith, do 3-4 DE's lead the league in sacks? Watt affects almost every play while being double and triple teamed with very little supporting cast around him.

He probably won't win, but he definitely deserves to be in the conversation.

Peyton aint winning after his performance last night. 4 picks........two of pick sixes

Agree on Peyton. For the first time last night, he started to look his age. He may go downhill quickly. He may play like Eli next year.

Maybe, but I made that same assumption about Brady after he started slow this year. Sure looks like he's lost something on the fastball, though.

Brady's still throwing lasers, at times he looks like Rodgers.

Brady's biggest throwing problem atm is that he's too afraid to turn over the ball, he puts balls in places only the receiver can catch them, and his receivers just aren't that good to reliably make the play - Shane Vereen for example will NEVER catch a ball thrown behind him.

 

[TDorBust]

I think Romo proved he's the at least the MVP on his team. Highest completion percentage for the year so far at 70. Highest passer rating at 114 and change.

79% completions in December. 10 TD's and 0 int's. 3-0 record. He's playing QB as well, if not better, than anyone right now.

I still don't see him winning it, but its nice to be able to say the above instead of talking about another December collapse!

Sorry but I will still vote for Murray on that team. This is not called December MVP its call the 2014 season MVP.

Romo is #1 in the NFL in completion %, Yards per attempt, QB rating....those are from the season not just December.

Exactly. Maybe my wording was confusing.

The emphasis on December was simply to show that he's been arguably the best QB in the NFL in December. A time when the Cowboys, and Romo have typically come up small. He's been solid all year, but ending on a high note always helps your cause.

No I know they are season stats, I am saying Murray is the reason the Cowboys are where they at. Romo has had a couple great games but doesn't overcome that in my mind Murray is 100% the reason the Cowboys were in contention prior to him getting injured and Romo got to deliver the final knockout blow and is taking all the credit it would seem by some.

Romo also has:

100+ less attempts than Brady or Rodgers

Less touchdowns per game than Rodgers (less overall TDs than Brady)

More INTs than Rodgers (1 Less than Brady)

More Sacks than Brady or Rodgers

Less Yard/Game than Rodgers and Brady

#1 Running Back (could argue Bell but I will take Murray this year)

Better Yard/Carry than Packers or Patriots

#2 Total Rushing Yards

#6 points per game (#1 Patriots + #2 Packers)

#5 in takeaways more than Packers #7 or Patriots #12

#4 Points Per Drive (#1 Packers + #2 Patriots)

#3 in 3+Outs (#1 Packers)

Also interesting looking at drive stats that end in scores very similar to overall play calling:

Cowboys: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/play-index/drive_finder.cgi?request=1&year_min=2014&year_max=2014&team_id=dal&opp_id=&game_type=R&game_location=&game_result=&game_num_min=0&game_num_max=99&week_num_min=0&week_num_max=99&game_day_of_week=&start_event=Downs&start_event=Interception&start_event=Punt&start_event=Blocked+FG&start_event=Missed+FG&start_event=Fumble&start_event=Muffed+Punt&start_event=Blocked+Punt&start_event=Kickoff&start_event=Onside+Kick&start_event=Own+Kickoff&start_event=Muffed+Kickoff&end_event=Touchdown&end_event=Field+Goal&drive_result=&exclude_kneels=1&drive_st_gtlt=lt&drive_st_own_opp=Own&drive_st_yds=&drive_end_gtlt=lt&drive_end_own_opp=Opp&drive_end_yds=&drive_num_gtlt=lt&drive_num=&quarter_start=1&quarter_start=2&quarter_start=3&quarter_start=4&quarter_start=5&tr_gtlt=lt&minutes=15&seconds=00&margin_min=&margin_max=&c1stat=net_yds&c1comp=gt&c1val=-100&c2stat=&c2comp=gt&c2val=&c3stat=&c3comp=gt&c3val=&c4stat=&c4comp=gt&c4val=&order_by=

Packers: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/play-index/drive_finder.cgi?request=1&year_min=2014&year_max=2014&team_id=gnb&opp_id=&game_type=R&game_location=&game_result=&game_num_min=0&game_num_max=99&week_num_min=0&week_num_max=99&game_day_of_week=&start_event=Downs&start_event=Interception&start_event=Punt&start_event=Blocked+FG&start_event=Missed+FG&start_event=Fumble&start_event=Muffed+Punt&start_event=Blocked+Punt&start_event=Kickoff&start_event=Onside+Kick&start_event=Own+Kickoff&start_event=Muffed+Kickoff&end_event=Touchdown&end_event=Field+Goal&drive_result=&exclude_kneels=1&drive_st_gtlt=lt&drive_st_own_opp=Own&drive_st_yds=&drive_end_gtlt=lt&drive_end_own_opp=Opp&drive_end_yds=&drive_num_gtlt=lt&drive_num=&quarter_start=1&quarter_start=2&quarter_start=3&quarter_start=4&quarter_start=5&tr_gtlt=lt&minutes=15&seconds=00&margin_min=&margin_max=&c1stat=net_yds&c1comp=gt&c1val=-100&c2stat=&c2comp=gt&c2val=&c3stat=&c3comp=gt&c3val=&c4stat=&c4comp=gt&c4val=&order_by=

That being said I don't consider Romo to be an outrageous choice like if Manning for instance were to get MVP. The most important thing I think people forget is that Rodgers has missed an amazing 4+ quarters in blowouts where he could have padded his numbers even more if teams could keep up with the Packers. Matt Flynn has made it on the field 6 times for the Packers (CHI - 1 1/2 quarters; Min, Car - 1 full quarter; NO, PHI - 1/2 of quarter; TAM - kneel downs). In the end you can assume who I would want to be MVP but I think this weekend will determine if Rodgers gets the MVP, playing at home against one of the best defenses in the NFL for at least a bye. This is Rodgers last exam and he just needs to pass the test to win MVP.

 

[Anarchy99]

Current odds to win MVP from Bovada . . .

Rodgers 1-3

Watt 5-1

Brady 5-1

Romo 16-1

Murray 20-1

Roethlisberger 33-1

Luck 50-1

Bell 50-1

Manning 50-1

 

[NE_REVIVAL]

I think Romo proved he's the at least the MVP on his team. Highest completion percentage for the year so far at 70. Highest passer rating at 114 and change.

79% completions in December. 10 TD's and 0 int's. 3-0 record. He's playing QB as well, if not better, than anyone right now.

I still don't see him winning it, but its nice to be able to say the above instead of talking about another December collapse!

Sorry but I will still vote for Murray on that team. This is not called December MVP its call the 2014 season MVP.

Romo is #1 in the NFL in completion %, Yards per attempt, QB rating....those are from the season not just December.

Exactly. Maybe my wording was confusing.

The emphasis on December was simply to show that he's been arguably the best QB in the NFL in December. A time when the Cowboys, and Romo have typically come up small. He's been solid all year, but ending on a high note always helps your cause.

No I know they are season stats, I am saying Murray is the reason the Cowboys are where they at. Romo has had a couple great games but doesn't overcome that in my mind Murray is 100% the reason the Cowboys were in contention prior to him getting injured and Romo got to deliver the final knockout blow and is taking all the credit it would seem by some.

Romo also has:

100+ less attempts than Brady or Rodgers

Less touchdowns per game than Rodgers (less overall TDs than Brady)

More INTs than Rodgers (1 Less than Brady)

More Sacks than Brady or Rodgers

Less Yard/Game than Rodgers and Brady

#1 Running Back (could argue Bell but I will take Murray this year)

Better Yard/Carry than Packers or Patriots

#2 Total Rushing Yards

#6 points per game (#1 Patriots + #2 Packers)

#5 in takeaways more than Packers #7 or Patriots #12

#4 Points Per Drive (#1 Packers + #2 Patriots)

#3 in 3+Outs (#1 Packers)

Also interesting looking at drive stats that end in scores very similar to overall play calling:

Cowboys: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/play-index/drive_finder.cgi?request=1&year_min=2014&year_max=2014&team_id=dal&opp_id=&game_type=R&game_location=&game_result=&game_num_min=0&game_num_max=99&week_num_min=0&week_num_max=99&game_day_of_week=&start_event=Downs&start_event=Interception&start_event=Punt&start_event=Blocked+FG&start_event=Missed+FG&start_event=Fumble&start_event=Muffed+Punt&start_event=Blocked+Punt&start_event=Kickoff&start_event=Onside+Kick&start_event=Own+Kickoff&start_event=Muffed+Kickoff&end_event=Touchdown&end_event=Field+Goal&drive_result=&exclude_kneels=1&drive_st_gtlt=lt&drive_st_own_opp=Own&drive_st_yds=&drive_end_gtlt=lt&drive_end_own_opp=Opp&drive_end_yds=&drive_num_gtlt=lt&drive_num=&quarter_start=1&quarter_start=2&quarter_start=3&quarter_start=4&quarter_start=5&tr_gtlt=lt&minutes=15&seconds=00&margin_min=&margin_max=&c1stat=net_yds&c1comp=gt&c1val=-100&c2stat=&c2comp=gt&c2val=&c3stat=&c3comp=gt&c3val=&c4stat=&c4comp=gt&c4val=&order_by=

Packers: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/play-index/drive_finder.cgi?request=1&year_min=2014&year_max=2014&team_id=gnb&opp_id=&game_type=R&game_location=&game_result=&game_num_min=0&game_num_max=99&week_num_min=0&week_num_max=99&game_day_of_week=&start_event=Downs&start_event=Interception&start_event=Punt&start_event=Blocked+FG&start_event=Missed+FG&start_event=Fumble&start_event=Muffed+Punt&start_event=Blocked+Punt&start_event=Kickoff&start_event=Onside+Kick&start_event=Own+Kickoff&start_event=Muffed+Kickoff&end_event=Touchdown&end_event=Field+Goal&drive_result=&exclude_kneels=1&drive_st_gtlt=lt&drive_st_own_opp=Own&drive_st_yds=&drive_end_gtlt=lt&drive_end_own_opp=Opp&drive_end_yds=&drive_num_gtlt=lt&drive_num=&quarter_start=1&quarter_start=2&quarter_start=3&quarter_start=4&quarter_start=5&tr_gtlt=lt&minutes=15&seconds=00&margin_min=&margin_max=&c1stat=net_yds&c1comp=gt&c1val=-100&c2stat=&c2comp=gt&c2val=&c3stat=&c3comp=gt&c3val=&c4stat=&c4comp=gt&c4val=&order_by=

That being said I don't consider Romo to be an outrageous choice like if Manning for instance were to get MVP. The most important thing I think people forget is that Rodgers has missed an amazing 4+ quarters in blowouts where he could have padded his numbers even more if teams could keep up with the Packers. Matt Flynn has made it on the field 6 times for the Packers (CHI - 1 1/2 quarters; Min, Car - 1 full quarter; NO, PHI - 1/2 of quarter; TAM - kneel downs). In the end you can assume who I would want to be MVP but I think this weekend will determine if Rodgers gets the MVP, playing at home against one of the best defenses in the NFL for at least a bye. This is Rodgers last exam and he just needs to pass the test to win MVP.

Agreed, the only way Rodgers doesn't win it is if he were to completely screw the pooch this weekend and that aint happening. On top of that the only real competition is Brady and NE already has the #1 seed locked up and will be coasting.

Kind of liking the way this is shaping up.

Rodgers gets the MVP

Broncos get NINE Pro Bowl selections

Brady settles for 4th SB ring

I'll take it

 

[tdmills]

I think Romo proved he's the at least the MVP on his team. Highest completion percentage for the year so far at 70. Highest passer rating at 114 and change.

79% completions in December. 10 TD's and 0 int's. 3-0 record. He's playing QB as well, if not better, than anyone right now.

I still don't see him winning it, but its nice to be able to say the above instead of talking about another December collapse!

Sorry but I will still vote for Murray on that team. This is not called December MVP its call the 2014 season MVP.

Romo is #1 in the NFL in completion %, Yards per attempt, QB rating....those are from the season not just December.

Exactly. Maybe my wording was confusing.

The emphasis on December was simply to show that he's been arguably the best QB in the NFL in December. A time when the Cowboys, and Romo have typically come up small. He's been solid all year, but ending on a high note always helps your cause.

No I know they are season stats, I am saying Murray is the reason the Cowboys are where they at. Romo has had a couple great games but doesn't overcome that in my mind Murray is 100% the reason the Cowboys were in contention prior to him getting injured and Romo got to deliver the final knockout blow and is taking all the credit it would seem by some.

Romo also has:

100+ less attempts than Brady or Rodgers

Less touchdowns per game than Rodgers (less overall TDs than Brady)

More INTs than Rodgers (1 Less than Brady)

More Sacks than Brady or Rodgers

Less Yard/Game than Rodgers and Brady

#1 Running Back (could argue Bell but I will take Murray this year)

Better Yard/Carry than Packers or Patriots

#2 Total Rushing Yards

#6 points per game (#1 Patriots + #2 Packers)

#5 in takeaways more than Packers #7 or Patriots #12

#4 Points Per Drive (#1 Packers + #2 Patriots)

#3 in 3+Outs (#1 Packers)

Also interesting looking at drive stats that end in scores very similar to overall play calling:

Cowboys: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/play-index/drive_finder.cgi?request=1&year_min=2014&year_max=2014&team_id=dal&opp_id=&game_type=R&game_location=&game_result=&game_num_min=0&game_num_max=99&week_num_min=0&week_num_max=99&game_day_of_week=&start_event=Downs&start_event=Interception&start_event=Punt&start_event=Blocked+FG&start_event=Missed+FG&start_event=Fumble&start_event=Muffed+Punt&start_event=Blocked+Punt&start_event=Kickoff&start_event=Onside+Kick&start_event=Own+Kickoff&start_event=Muffed+Kickoff&end_event=Touchdown&end_event=Field+Goal&drive_result=&exclude_kneels=1&drive_st_gtlt=lt&drive_st_own_opp=Own&drive_st_yds=&drive_end_gtlt=lt&drive_end_own_opp=Opp&drive_end_yds=&drive_num_gtlt=lt&drive_num=&quarter_start=1&quarter_start=2&quarter_start=3&quarter_start=4&quarter_start=5&tr_gtlt=lt&minutes=15&seconds=00&margin_min=&margin_max=&c1stat=net_yds&c1comp=gt&c1val=-100&c2stat=&c2comp=gt&c2val=&c3stat=&c3comp=gt&c3val=&c4stat=&c4comp=gt&c4val=&order_by=

Packers: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/play-index/drive_finder.cgi?request=1&year_min=2014&year_max=2014&team_id=gnb&opp_id=&game_type=R&game_location=&game_result=&game_num_min=0&game_num_max=99&week_num_min=0&week_num_max=99&game_day_of_week=&start_event=Downs&start_event=Interception&start_event=Punt&start_event=Blocked+FG&start_event=Missed+FG&start_event=Fumble&start_event=Muffed+Punt&start_event=Blocked+Punt&start_event=Kickoff&start_event=Onside+Kick&start_event=Own+Kickoff&start_event=Muffed+Kickoff&end_event=Touchdown&end_event=Field+Goal&drive_result=&exclude_kneels=1&drive_st_gtlt=lt&drive_st_own_opp=Own&drive_st_yds=&drive_end_gtlt=lt&drive_end_own_opp=Opp&drive_end_yds=&drive_num_gtlt=lt&drive_num=&quarter_start=1&quarter_start=2&quarter_start=3&quarter_start=4&quarter_start=5&tr_gtlt=lt&minutes=15&seconds=00&margin_min=&margin_max=&c1stat=net_yds&c1comp=gt&c1val=-100&c2stat=&c2comp=gt&c2val=&c3stat=&c3comp=gt&c3val=&c4stat=&c4comp=gt&c4val=&order_by=

That being said I don't consider Romo to be an outrageous choice like if Manning for instance were to get MVP. The most important thing I think people forget is that Rodgers has missed an amazing 4+ quarters in blowouts where he could have padded his numbers even more if teams could keep up with the Packers. Matt Flynn has made it on the field 6 times for the Packers (CHI - 1 1/2 quarters; Min, Car - 1 full quarter; NO, PHI - 1/2 of quarter; TAM - kneel downs). In the end you can assume who I would want to be MVP but I think this weekend will determine if Rodgers gets the MVP, playing at home against one of the best defenses in the NFL for at least a bye. This is Rodgers last exam and he just needs to pass the test to win MVP.

We can twist things all we want. Sure, Murray>Lacy/Starks. But I think everyone would take GB passing targets>Cowboys targets too.

I think Rodgers will win the MVP, but I agree this week will be telling.

 

[Phenomena]

I think Romo proved he's the at least the MVP on his team. Highest completion percentage for the year so far at 70. Highest passer rating at 114 and change.

79% completions in December. 10 TD's and 0 int's. 3-0 record. He's playing QB as well, if not better, than anyone right now.

I still don't see him winning it, but its nice to be able to say the above instead of talking about another December collapse!

Sorry but I will still vote for Murray on that team. This is not called December MVP its call the 2014 season MVP.

Romo is #1 in the NFL in completion %, Yards per attempt, QB rating....those are from the season not just December.

Exactly. Maybe my wording was confusing.

The emphasis on December was simply to show that he's been arguably the best QB in the NFL in December. A time when the Cowboys, and Romo have typically come up small. He's been solid all year, but ending on a high note always helps your cause.

No I know they are season stats, I am saying Murray is the reason the Cowboys are where they at. Romo has had a couple great games but doesn't overcome that in my mind Murray is 100% the reason the Cowboys were in contention prior to him getting injured and Romo got to deliver the final knockout blow and is taking all the credit it would seem by some.

Romo also has:

100+ less attempts than Brady or Rodgers

Less touchdowns per game than Rodgers (less overall TDs than Brady)

More INTs than Rodgers (1 Less than Brady)

More Sacks than Brady or Rodgers

Less Yard/Game than Rodgers and Brady

#1 Running Back (could argue Bell but I will take Murray this year)

Better Yard/Carry than Packers or Patriots

#2 Total Rushing Yards

#6 points per game (#1 Patriots + #2 Packers)

#5 in takeaways more than Packers #7 or Patriots #12

#4 Points Per Drive (#1 Packers + #2 Patriots)

#3 in 3+Outs (#1 Packers)

Also interesting looking at drive stats that end in scores very similar to overall play calling:

Cowboys: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/play-index/drive_finder.cgi?request=1&year_min=2014&year_max=2014&team_id=dal&opp_id=&game_type=R&game_location=&game_result=&game_num_min=0&game_num_max=99&week_num_min=0&week_num_max=99&game_day_of_week=&start_event=Downs&start_event=Interception&start_event=Punt&start_event=Blocked+FG&start_event=Missed+FG&start_event=Fumble&start_event=Muffed+Punt&start_event=Blocked+Punt&start_event=Kickoff&start_event=Onside+Kick&start_event=Own+Kickoff&start_event=Muffed+Kickoff&end_event=Touchdown&end_event=Field+Goal&drive_result=&exclude_kneels=1&drive_st_gtlt=lt&drive_st_own_opp=Own&drive_st_yds=&drive_end_gtlt=lt&drive_end_own_opp=Opp&drive_end_yds=&drive_num_gtlt=lt&drive_num=&quarter_start=1&quarter_start=2&quarter_start=3&quarter_start=4&quarter_start=5&tr_gtlt=lt&minutes=15&seconds=00&margin_min=&margin_max=&c1stat=net_yds&c1comp=gt&c1val=-100&c2stat=&c2comp=gt&c2val=&c3stat=&c3comp=gt&c3val=&c4stat=&c4comp=gt&c4val=&order_by=

Packers: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/play-index/drive_finder.cgi?request=1&year_min=2014&year_max=2014&team_id=gnb&opp_id=&game_type=R&game_location=&game_result=&game_num_min=0&game_num_max=99&week_num_min=0&week_num_max=99&game_day_of_week=&start_event=Downs&start_event=Interception&start_event=Punt&start_event=Blocked+FG&start_event=Missed+FG&start_event=Fumble&start_event=Muffed+Punt&start_event=Blocked+Punt&start_event=Kickoff&start_event=Onside+Kick&start_event=Own+Kickoff&start_event=Muffed+Kickoff&end_event=Touchdown&end_event=Field+Goal&drive_result=&exclude_kneels=1&drive_st_gtlt=lt&drive_st_own_opp=Own&drive_st_yds=&drive_end_gtlt=lt&drive_end_own_opp=Opp&drive_end_yds=&drive_num_gtlt=lt&drive_num=&quarter_start=1&quarter_start=2&quarter_start=3&quarter_start=4&quarter_start=5&tr_gtlt=lt&minutes=15&seconds=00&margin_min=&margin_max=&c1stat=net_yds&c1comp=gt&c1val=-100&c2stat=&c2comp=gt&c2val=&c3stat=&c3comp=gt&c3val=&c4stat=&c4comp=gt&c4val=&order_by=

That being said I don't consider Romo to be an outrageous choice like if Manning for instance were to get MVP. The most important thing I think people forget is that Rodgers has missed an amazing 4+ quarters in blowouts where he could have padded his numbers even more if teams could keep up with the Packers. Matt Flynn has made it on the field 6 times for the Packers (CHI - 1 1/2 quarters; Min, Car - 1 full quarter; NO, PHI - 1/2 of quarter; TAM - kneel downs). In the end you can assume who I would want to be MVP but I think this weekend will determine if Rodgers gets the MVP, playing at home against one of the best defenses in the NFL for at least a bye. This is Rodgers last exam and he just needs to pass the test to win MVP.

We can twist things all we want. Sure, Murray>Lacy/Starks. But I think everyone would take GB passing targets>Cowboys targets too.

I think Rodgers will win the MVP, but I agree this week will be telling.

If there was a redraft, Lacy is not going after Murray. No way. One season does not make a career. Lacy has been a game changer on a subpar offensive line from day 1.

He also didn't give up a single sack or pressure his ROOKIE YEAR. And I don't think he's given up any this year, either.

Lacy has the mental side of the game and everything you want in the physical toolset. He was the unanimous best back in the draft that that fell due to medical concerns, and not only alleviate those but destroyed his draft position. And Lacy is a lot younger.

 

[Chicago Hooligan]

MVP Tony Romo pooping the playoff bed would be funnier than regular Tony Romo pooping the playoff bed. I guess I'll settle for the latter.

 

[ryno1980]

Gronk. I think his presence as a downfield weapon and blocker have single handedly changed the Patriots offense this season.

I don't see how Gronk doesn't garner enough votes to finish in the top five. 8 TDs in the past 8 games. Best player on the best team. But it'd be hard not to vote for Rodgers, then Gronk, Murray and Brady.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Rodgers laying a giant egg at Buffalo and then being pretty mortal at Tampa hurts his chances IMO.

Would vote Watt, Murray or Gronk (in that order) ahead of any QB this year. But I think Murray wins it.

 

[cjv123]

Peyton has been glorified garbage for weeks now. It's absurd for anyone to list him unless with a big "(*) Mandatory Mention."

It would be nice if Wilson won, or at least finished second, since he is the by-far most valuable player to the reigning SB champion and #1 seed in the NFC. I continue to believe there are many fans who don't or won't understand Wilson, stereotyping him as a "black QB." (which he is but isn't)

 

[Niles Standish]

I think Romo proved he's the at least the MVP on his team. Highest completion percentage for the year so far at 70. Highest passer rating at 114 and change.

79% completions in December. 10 TD's and 0 int's. 3-0 record. He's playing QB as well, if not better, than anyone right now.

I still don't see him winning it, but its nice to be able to say the above instead of talking about another December collapse!

Sorry but I will still vote for Murray on that team. This is not called December MVP its call the 2014 season MVP.

Romo is #1 in the NFL in completion %, Yards per attempt, QB rating....those are from the season not just December.

But he's Tony Romo, and like it or not the MVP is partially popularity contest. He ain't gonna win.

Switch his stats with one of the big names at QB and that guy has a good shot.

 

[jurb26]

I think Romo proved he's the at least the MVP on his team. Highest completion percentage for the year so far at 70. Highest passer rating at 114 and change.

79% completions in December. 10 TD's and 0 int's. 3-0 record. He's playing QB as well, if not better, than anyone right now.

I still don't see him winning it, but its nice to be able to say the above instead of talking about another December collapse!

Sorry but I will still vote for Murray on that team. This is not called December MVP its call the 2014 season MVP.

Romo is #1 in the NFL in completion %, Yards per attempt, QB rating....those are from the season not just December.

But he's Tony Romo, and like it or not the MVP is partially popularity contest. He ain't gonna win.

Switch his stats with one of the big names at QB and that guy has a good shot.

Romo's absolutely earned MVP mention at this point. I think his problem is more about Murray than anything else.

 

[jon_mx]

I think Romo proved he's the at least the MVP on his team. Highest completion percentage for the year so far at 70. Highest passer rating at 114 and change.

79% completions in December. 10 TD's and 0 int's. 3-0 record. He's playing QB as well, if not better, than anyone right now.

I still don't see him winning it, but its nice to be able to say the above instead of talking about another December collapse!

Sorry but I will still vote for Murray on that team. This is not called December MVP its call the 2014 season MVP.

Romo is #1 in the NFL in completion %, Yards per attempt, QB rating....those are from the season not just December.

But he's Tony Romo, and like it or not the MVP is partially popularity contest. He ain't gonna win.

Switch his stats with one of the big names at QB and that guy has a good shot.

Yeah, if Romo is hands down the best QB, they will give it to JJ Watt. If Rodgers somehow falls apart this weekend, that is what I think will happen. In fairness, Romo is only 18th in the league in yards per game, so he really hasn't been asked to do much for his team. Murray is arguably the MVP on the Cowboys.

 

[JohnnyU]

I know who wins fantasy mvp: ODBjr.

 

[Niles Standish]

I think Romo proved he's the at least the MVP on his team. Highest completion percentage for the year so far at 70. Highest passer rating at 114 and change.

79% completions in December. 10 TD's and 0 int's. 3-0 record. He's playing QB as well, if not better, than anyone right now.

I still don't see him winning it, but its nice to be able to say the above instead of talking about another December collapse!

Sorry but I will still vote for Murray on that team. This is not called December MVP its call the 2014 season MVP.

Romo is #1 in the NFL in completion %, Yards per attempt, QB rating....those are from the season not just December.

But he's Tony Romo, and like it or not the MVP is partially popularity contest. He ain't gonna win.

Switch his stats with one of the big names at QB and that guy has a good shot.

Yeah, if Romo is hands down the best QB, they will give it to JJ Watt. If Rodgers somehow falls apart this weekend, that is what I think will happen. In fairness, Romo is only 18th in the league in yards per game, so he really hasn't been asked to do much for his team. Murray is arguably the MVP on the Cowboys.

I'm with you, I think even if his name was Brady or Manning he's not a lock since he hasn't really had to carry them.

I tend to think the 2 games he was hurt (yeah he played half of one) them going 0-2 told us a lot. They are 11-2 outside of those games. 11-3 when he starts.

 

[General Tso]

Who will win? Rodgers

Who should win? Wilson

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Wilson's not even the most deserving guy on his own team IMO. Lynch is the guy who opens things up for a mediocre passing game and Wilson's runs.

 

[cjv123]

Wilson's not even the most deserving guy on his own team IMO. Lynch is the guy who opens things up for a mediocre passing game and Wilson's runs.

Absurd. Truly absurd.

 

[Tau837]

Wilson's not even the most deserving guy on his own team IMO. Lynch is the guy who opens things up for a mediocre passing game and Wilson's runs.

Absurd. Truly absurd.

Wdcrob, if Lynch is gone next year, are you expecting a significant regression in the Seahawks offense? It seems that you must answer yes to justify your post.

 

[Rick James]

imo this season will be remembered for JJ Watt and no one else. Watt deserves it

 

[Chicago Hooligan]

Watt played better than this in 2012 though.

 

[Manster]

Romo's havin a better year than Wilson on a run first team. Wilson has a better defense. The running games are on par. Romo has better receiving weapons. Wilson has some solid rushing numbers. Romo has better numbers, overall.

 

[Freelove]

Wilson's not even the most deserving guy on his own team IMO. Lynch is the guy who opens things up for a mediocre passing game and Wilson's runs.

Absurd. Truly absurd.

Wdcrob, if Lynch is gone next year, are you expecting a significant regression in the Seahawks offense? It seems that you must answer yes to justify your post.

Why would you not? They're about to (presumably) lose a (projected) 1750/17 RB, and replace him with a preseason warrior of some sort, and to replace the lost offensive output, they'll have to do it while additionally shouldering the enormous salary burden Wilson is about to become. I think you'd have a be a lunatic or a willfully blind homer to expect anything short of significant regression.

I still think Wilson deserves the team MVP nod over Lynch for the year, just because he's such a great game manager in a system, and on a team, that demands exactly that. But I don't think he can carry a team. Every time the team has actually needed an above-average offensive showing to stay in a game, they've fallen short. Wilson has no deep arm, and when they fall behind, they're toast, since they lack the weapons (including QB) to score aggressively unless the defense is providing the offense.

 

[Tau837]

Wilson's not even the most deserving guy on his own team IMO. Lynch is the guy who opens things up for a mediocre passing game and Wilson's runs.

Absurd. Truly absurd.

Wdcrob, if Lynch is gone next year, are you expecting a significant regression in the Seahawks offense? It seems that you must answer yes to justify your post.

Why would you not?

Because when needed, Wilson will produce enough to (more than) make up the difference.

I don't think he can carry a team. Every time the team has actually needed an above-average offensive showing to stay in a game, they've fallen short.

This is laughable. The Seahawks have lost 1 game in Wilson's career by more than 7 points, and that was this season when the Chargers kicked a FG with 20 seconds left to win by 9. They have "stayed in" every game Wilson has ever played.

Furthermore, they have lost 13 out of 52 games started by Wilson. Meanwhile, he has led 13 game winning drives. He has led as many game winning drives as the team has losses with him at QB. But your view is that they have always fallen short?

Wilson has no deep arm

Seriously, have you ever watched him play? Because you're embarrassing yourself here...

 

[cjv123]

Wilson has a very strong arm.

 

[bostonfred]

I'm a big Wilson fan and I think he will step up his game when lynch is gone, but I don't think he's playing at an mvp level right now because he doesn't have to. Lynch is the personality of the offense. Wilson having a great year and he's won then some games on his own and he's capable of even more, but he hasn't done it yet. It's like a young Brady or Roethlisberger - they can win superbowl mvp easier than regular season mvp.