Who would you build your Dynasty Team around? (1 Viewer)

[Black]

Starting a Dynasty salary-cap league, will be PPR, 21-24 man rosters, no IDP.

We'll start the league with a Free Agent Auction. Who are you spending your money on? Young players that might be approaching their peaks?

I am wondering if you blow your wad on an ADP, Brady, Brees, or go with younger folks like Forte, Cutler, Roddy...or better value guys like Thigpen, Harry Douglas?

 

[Big Score]

Matt Ryan.

 

[Tornacl]

Since its PPR, I would try to get Fitz and Calvin Johnson, as they will be dominant for a LONG time, and they're great already. Other great WRs that are young are Brandon Marshall, Greg Jennings, Boldin, and Roddy White.

If I were doing a new PPR dynasty draft, I'd try to get at least two of the above (depending on lineup requirements and scoring). I'm in a PPR dynasty now, and those are the guys that are impossible to get from their owners. They can last a lot longer than a RB, and there aren't too many RBs that carry the full load right now, so that makes these guys impossible to get from their owners.

I've never done a dynasty auction, so maybe those guys are valued a lot more, but in my limited auction experience, everyone wanted to spend a ton on RBs and the few stud QBs. I'd go after some decent RBs and QBs and spend more on the young stud WRs, loading up on them. Especially if you have flex positions.

 

[bostonfred]

I'd spend the bulk of my money to get:

Warner, Leinart and a bunch of cheap young QBs

Adrian Peterson and whatever other depth I could afford

Fitzgerald and whatever other depth I could afford

Cooley

Patriots D, Vikings D, and any other team that should have a good defensive line for years to come

 

[NeverEnough]

If I had to pick one, Brees.

If I picked a few, Calvin Johnson, ADP & Ryan/Brees

 

[-OZ-]

What is the lineup requirement?

Off the top of my head, my "want list" is Matt Ryan, Chris Johnson, AD, Greg Jennings, Boldin, Calvin, Chris Cooley.

My value plays or somewhat cheaper / overlooked picks are Braylon Edwards, Joe Flacco, Ben Roethlisberger, Portis, Lynch.

 

[bonesman]

I'd definitely try to shoot for the young stud QB first if you can get a Ryan or a Cutler at a reasonable price.... then go for the Calvin, Marshall, Roddy's of the world... young WRs that should be elite for years to come. I wouldn't break the bank for an ADP, Bush, MJD, Westbrook, LT2.

 

[Burning Sensation]

I wouldnt want to spend a large % of my money on any one player, rather concentrate on the mid-range players on the verge of their prime. RB's like , Lynch, Kevin Smith, DMac, JStew, MJD etc, WR's Holmes, Bowe, Gonzalez, Avery, Morgan, Colston, etc., QB's, Big Ben, Ryan, Flacco, Palmer, Rivers, etc.

 

[bostonfred]

What is the lineup requirement? Off the top of my head, my "want list" is Matt Ryan, Chris Johnson, AD, Greg Jennings, Boldin, Calvin, Chris Cooley.My value plays or somewhat cheaper / overlooked picks are Braylon Edwards, Joe Flacco, Ben Roethlisberger, Portis, Lynch.

I would build a team around Peterson because I think he's going to be the real deal for a long time. I'd pass on Portis because I think he's going to hit the wall soon. Good call on Chris Johnson, although I can see this year being a little flukey for Tennessee. Thunder and lightning attacks always seem to die down after their first year or so together. Boldin scares me because you don't know where he's going to play next year. Love Cooley long term and short. He's well above average, but much cheaper than Gates/Winslow/Witten and cheaper and younger than Gonzo. Calvin Johnson scares me a little because of the QB uncertainty, but I'd love to get him long term. Braylon has a good chance of bouncing back. Lynch is good but I don't like any Buffalo player long term. Too bad a team. Flacco isn't much better than any of a dozen low tier QBs. If he's cheap and the other guys are taken I'd be happy with him, but I'm not looking to build a team around a guy on a defensive team whose only young receiver is Clayton. I don't expect Baltimore to start spending enough money or early picks on offense over the next few years to make him great.

 

[Burning Sensation]

I'd definitely try to shoot for the young stud QB first if you can get a Ryan or a Cutler at a reasonable price.... then go for the Calvin, Marshall, Roddy's of the world... young WRs that should be elite for years to come. I wouldn't break the bank for an ADP, Bush, MJD, Westbrook, LT2.

I agree with this point as well. If you are going to spend big on a couple players, do it with WR's. They dont get injured as much and their careers last twice as long.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

I'd try and get these guys: Calvin Johnson, Greg Jennings, Matt Forte, Joe Flacco, Johnathan Stewart, Dustin Keller and Dwayne Bowe. I wouldn't shell out the money needed to get ADP and I wouldn't buy any top-shelf QB.

 

[Anthony Borbely]

Since its PPR, I would try to get Fitz and Calvin Johnson, as they will be dominant for a LONG time, and they're great already.

 

[FUBAR]

If I'm looking for an emphasis on the future vs. today, I'm building with a great QB and WRs. RBs come and go way too often and the great young ones cost too much.

Give me

Ryan, Brees, Rivers, Rodgers or Cutler

Fitz, Calvin, Roddy, Marshall, or Jennings - maybe Eddie Royal

It's funny, we constantly say how Cooley is underrated, but his name always comes up in discussions like these. For the money, give me Owen Daniels or maybe John Carlson or Dustin Keller.

 

[renesauz]

I think the key is to emphasize the near future. Don't think distant future, cause you may never reach it. Think too hard on today, and you might find yourself with an ugly looking rebuild project way too soon.

Identify several potential candidates to be the next "Roddy White" and load up on them cheap. Target an emerging young QB you're comfortable with (Ryan seems almost too ideal...Flacco is a possible, or even Quinn), but don't chase it. If everyone else is chasing those QB's, you'll find youself stealing a Delhomme or Garrard.

RB is the tough one, but if you've managed to land the righ types of WR's and QB, you'll have the cash to land two or three younger starters (Grant, Forte, Slaton, Jones, types).

The idea there is to hit on a couple of stud WR's and a RB for 2010, obtain a solid long term QB cheap, yet still have the cash left for quality depth. You may struggle a little bit in year one, but be gravy by year 2.

Above all...stay flexible. You may find yourself in a bidding war over every one of your top ten targets...and if you're too rigid you'll overpay and find youself cash strapped without depth.

 

[FUBAR]

I think the key is to emphasize the near future. Don't think distant future, cause you may never reach it. Think too hard on today, and you might find yourself with an ugly looking rebuild project way too soon.

Identify several potential candidates to be the next "Roddy White" and load up on them cheap. Target an emerging young QB you're comfortable with (Ryan seems almost too ideal...Flacco is a possible, or even Quinn), but don't chase it. If everyone else is chasing those QB's, you'll find youself stealing a Delhomme or Garrard.

RB is the tough one, but if you've managed to land the righ types of WR's and QB, you'll have the cash to land two or three younger starters (Grant, Forte, Slaton, Jones, types).

The idea there is to hit on a couple of stud WR's and a RB for 2010, obtain a solid long term QB cheap, yet still have the cash left for quality depth. You may struggle a little bit in year one, but be gravy by year 2.

Above all...stay flexible. You may find yourself in a bidding war over every one of your top ten targets...and if you're too rigid you'll overpay and find youself cash strapped without depth.

Good advice all around, but let's look closer at the bolded portion.IMO, too many people are chasing the next big thing which often makes any player who has shown that he can be the next big thing to be overpriced. However, if you do hit, you're golden.

The first part of course is talent, Roddy was obviously talented.

The second part is improving QB situation, whether that QB is on the team right now or not.

So who are the candidates that aren't probably overpriced already?

Bowe - talent, and will Thigpen improve or might the Chiefs bring in a new QB?

Ginn - talent although he's underrated, Pennington is a good QB but not overly FF friendly, Henne just might be a catalyst to greatness (FWIW, his teammate just might be the next Colston)

Matt Jones - I never thought I'd say it, but maybe

Holmes - can he get his head on straight? He isn't playing with fire right now but he is talented and Ben can be a good QB

Roy Williams - slightly older, but when TO heads out to pasture, why not?

 

[renesauz]

I think the key is to emphasize the near future. Don't think distant future, cause you may never reach it. Think too hard on today, and you might find yourself with an ugly looking rebuild project way too soon.

Identify several potential candidates to be the next "Roddy White" and load up on them cheap. Target an emerging young QB you're comfortable with (Ryan seems almost too ideal...Flacco is a possible, or even Quinn), but don't chase it. If everyone else is chasing those QB's, you'll find youself stealing a Delhomme or Garrard.

RB is the tough one, but if you've managed to land the righ types of WR's and QB, you'll have the cash to land two or three younger starters (Grant, Forte, Slaton, Jones, types).

The idea there is to hit on a couple of stud WR's and a RB for 2010, obtain a solid long term QB cheap, yet still have the cash left for quality depth. You may struggle a little bit in year one, but be gravy by year 2.

Above all...stay flexible. You may find yourself in a bidding war over every one of your top ten targets...and if you're too rigid you'll overpay and find youself cash strapped without depth.

Good advice all around, but let's look closer at the bolded portion.IMO, too many people are chasing the next big thing which often makes any player who has shown that he can be the next big thing to be overpriced. However, if you do hit, you're golden.

The first part of course is talent, Roddy was obviously talented.

The second part is improving QB situation, whether that QB is on the team right now or not.

So who are the candidates that aren't probably overpriced already?

Bowe - talent, and will Thigpen improve or might the Chiefs bring in a new QB?

Ginn - talent although he's underrated, Pennington is a good QB but not overly FF friendly, Henne just might be a catalyst to greatness (FWIW, his teammate just might be the next Colston)

Matt Jones - I never thought I'd say it, but maybe

Holmes - can he get his head on straight? He isn't playing with fire right now but he is talented and Ben can be a good QB

Roy Williams - slightly older, but when TO heads out to pasture, why not?

I haven't done my homework for next year yet, but one thing to do is go back and check drafts from 1-3 years ago, specifically looking at high round WR's. It's amazing how many high WR picks languish on a bench for a couple of years for odd reasons only to star later. Bad QB play on a bad team (which now has a chance to improve), a big name starter in front of them (think A. Gonzalez for next year!), a training camp injury that robbed them of a chance in year 1 or 2. Roddy White was a perfect example of one of those picks last year. This year didn't produce a home-run WR that way, but did show many solid FF starters.I like your list though...good starting point.

 

[FantasyTrader]

I think the key is to emphasize the near future. Don't think distant future, cause you may never reach it. Think too hard on today, and you might find yourself with an ugly looking rebuild project way too soon.

Identify several potential candidates to be the next "Roddy White" and load up on them cheap. Target an emerging young QB you're comfortable with (Ryan seems almost too ideal...Flacco is a possible, or even Quinn), but don't chase it. If everyone else is chasing those QB's, you'll find youself stealing a Delhomme or Garrard.

RB is the tough one, but if you've managed to land the righ types of WR's and QB, you'll have the cash to land two or three younger starters (Grant, Forte, Slaton, Jones, types).

The idea there is to hit on a couple of stud WR's and a RB for 2010, obtain a solid long term QB cheap, yet still have the cash left for quality depth. You may struggle a little bit in year one, but be gravy by year 2.

Above all...stay flexible. You may find yourself in a bidding war over every one of your top ten targets...and if you're too rigid you'll overpay and find youself cash strapped without depth.

Good advice all around, but let's look closer at the bolded portion.IMO, too many people are chasing the next big thing which often makes any player who has shown that he can be the next big thing to be overpriced. However, if you do hit, you're golden.

The first part of course is talent, Roddy was obviously talented.

The second part is improving QB situation, whether that QB is on the team right now or not.

So who are the candidates that aren't probably overpriced already?

Bowe - talent, and will Thigpen improve or might the Chiefs bring in a new QB?

Ginn - talent although he's underrated, Pennington is a good QB but not overly FF friendly, Henne just might be a catalyst to greatness (FWIW, his teammate just might be the next Colston)

Matt Jones - I never thought I'd say it, but maybe

Holmes - can he get his head on straight? He isn't playing with fire right now but he is talented and Ben can be a good QB

Roy Williams - slightly older, but when TO heads out to pasture, why not?

Great list.

 

[fruity pebbles]

Without a doubt in a ppr, I'd blow my wad on great young WRs and skip the expensive young stud RBs. Guys like Fitz, AJ, Calvin, Jennings, Marshall etc. They'll come cheaper than guys like ADP and Gore and will be worth just as much to your team.

 

[thehornet]

Most of the names in this thread are already proven studs. Fitzy, Roddy, Marshall, Forte, AJ, Calvin, Jennings....etc etc. Of course try to get these players, but you will find it difficult to even end up with a third of the players listed in here. Try to get some fo these guys, but be realistic. Forte will be a top 5 pick in any league next year so be prepared to draft or bid that way.

You should obviously target those guys but be prepared to draft lesser names with the that type of potential. Jonathan Stewart is a good one to get because he wont be as expensive. Breaston will be awesome of Boldin parts ways. Cassell depending on how he finishes the year and where he ends up could be a great pick for years to come. Mendenhall will be undervalued as well considering the injury. Donnie Avery is the Rams show any signs of improvement. Dustin Keller is sick and young, but still flying under the radar (not for long).

The guys in the second paragraph aren't as popular or flashy or quite frankly as good as the first paragraph guys, but they are young and are on the brink of stardom if the pieces fall in the right direction.

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

There's really only one answer when you factor in talent, age, and position, and that is Matt Ryan.

Edited: I now see you said dynasty team, not NFL Team. I'll have to get back to you on that one.

 

[dirty_martini]

In a PPR league having a good TE is a huge advantage, in my book. I'd bid higher to get one of Witten, Winslow or Gates than I would in a Redraft.

Likewise, I'd bid higher for the young stud wideouts like Jennings, Andre Johnson, Fitz, Marshal, etc.

RB's I'd bid pretty much like a redraft. RBs have a short shelf life as top-notch studs.

QBs produce for a long time but you rarely see the same names up in the top 5 year after year. So as long as I get one of the top 12 , I'd be happy and I'd tend to bid a little more for a younger one.

And on some general notes, pay attention to your roster requirements and your bench size. Think about what that will leave on the WW and bid accordingly. If you have huge benchs, people will stash a lot of prospects so you can't expect to always finds starting QB on the waiver wire mid-season like you could if the benches were small.

 

[sib]

I'd go for a mix of veterans and youth. A lot of people tend to overvalue the younger guys. If I feel a veteran has 2, 3 yrs of great production in him, I will definitely be looking to buy him. A good example is Brian Westbrook. When healthy, he is an absolute monster in a PPR league. I believe he has another 2 years of great production in him. He's a guy I'd be looking to pick up at half the price while others are fawning over D-Mac, Lynch, Gore, etc.

As mentioned going after the young, stud WR is a great move, but that wouldn't prevent me from drafting Randy Moss, Reggie Wayne, Steve Smith, etc at the right price. Whatever you give up in youth by going after stud veterans can be made up in free agency or rookie drafts down the road if you are savvy enough.

 

[MAC_32]

I try to buy as many players that I think are worth more than their market price as possible. Going in with a set plan will likely be a recipe for disaster.

Players I'd likely target/think are under valued

Santonio Holmes

Brandon Marshall

Braylon Edwards

Anthony Gonzalez

Wes Welker

Dwayne Bowe

Domenik Hixon

Roy Williams

Marques Colston

Pick your San Fran WR - Jason Hill or Josh Morgan

Dustin Keller

Bo Scaife

Kellen Winslow

John Carlson

Carson Palmer

Ben Roethlisberger

Kurt Warner

Ray Rice

Jonathon Stewart

Darren McFadden

Pierre Thomas

MJD

Misc. New York Giants RB - will depend on who they retain

Players I'd likely avoid/expect to be over priced

TJ Houshmandzadeh

Any RB 30+ years old that costs more than a couple bucks

I think guys like McGahee and LJ still may command RB2 type $, I think that's too much

Also, it's easier to replace RB's (annually) than the other positions. I'd look to acquire a lot of RB's (with emphasism on RB's with definitive - and cheap - handcuffs) instead of building your franchise around one and a franchise cornerstone being Andre Johnson, Boldin, Fitz, Roddy White, Calvin, or Brees.

Finally, one of the most important things to do is to mine the bottom of the barrel for the $1 talent. Spend more time on this than trying to decide if you prefer Fitz or Calvin as your cornerstone.

 

[beto]

Grab a couple of young stud WRs (Jennings, Bowe, etc), then load up on underavalued young RBs (McFadden, Rice, etc.) You can lock up a lot of 4th-8th round talent in an auction if you spend your cap wisely.

 

[eric rymer]

 

[Q-Bert]

What I would do:

1. Rank all the players you think matter. Maybe it is 75, maybe it is 120.

2. Figure out how many other players will get purchased. Assign them all a value of $1

3. Allocate the remaining cap space to your players who matter.

4. Develop a strategy for how you want to build your team and assign budget numbers to it. For example, I want three #1 WRs and am willing to spend $25 in cap space for each guy. Don't worry about individual players so much, have a list of players who fit the category.

5. Early in the auction nominate players you don't want. Get other owners to spend their cap space early on players you don't really want.

6. Never increase the bid on a player by more than the minimum bid. You don't need to prove how big yours are.

7. If you find you've spent more than you planned at some point you need to stop spending. Wait and let other owners blow some space.

 

[renesauz]

Most of the names in this thread are already proven studs. Fitzy, Roddy, Marshall, Forte, AJ, Calvin, Jennings....etc etc. Of course try to get these players, but you will find it difficult to even end up with a third of the players listed in here. Try to get some fo these guys, but be realistic. Forte will be a top 5 pick in any league next year so be prepared to draft or bid that way. You should obviously target those guys but be prepared to draft lesser names with the that type of potential. Jonathan Stewart is a good one to get because he wont be as expensive. Breaston will be awesome of Boldin parts ways. Cassell depending on how he finishes the year and where he ends up could be a great pick for years to come. Mendenhall will be undervalued as well considering the injury. Donnie Avery is the Rams show any signs of improvement. Dustin Keller is sick and young, but still flying under the radar (not for long).The guys in the second paragraph aren't as popular or flashy or quite frankly as good as the first paragraph guys, but they are young and are on the brink of stardom if the pieces fall in the right direction.

This guy gets it. You can load up on these types of players if you avoid the big names. Then, while you might be mediocre in year one, you're in a dominant position in years 2+.

 

[Stompin' Tom Connors]

 

[bonesman]

Finally, one of the most important things to do is to mine the bottom of the barrel for the $1 talent. Spend more time on this than trying to decide if you prefer Fitz or Calvin as your cornerstone.

Bears repeating.

 

[Sinrman]

Yeah I agree with Fitz.. Boldin... Ryan.. ADP will be too expensive.. Forte would be a great pickup, though his value continues to go up and up.. Calvin would be nice, but the ?? surrounding that offense has me worried.. Slaton.. Eddie Royal might be a nice, fairly cheap WR to pickup..

 

[King of the Wolfies]

it all depends on starting roster sizes. the smaller the lineups, the more important studs are, but if you go 2 rb/3 wr/flex, then dont overspend on any one player. depth is critical to win with larger lineups. spend more on WRs because you get more bang for the buck.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

If you start 3 WRs, buy two studs.

If you start 2 RBs, buy 1 stud.

Buy 1 stud QB.

Go for values after that with some preference on youth, but don't be afraid to get 3-4 older players to round out your starting lineup. Those will hold over your team until they younger project players develop.

I wouldn't be opposed to getting > 4 studs, but you definitely need 4 to get a solid team to compete for the now and the long run.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Really surprised no one's mentioning MJD - his floor is Top 10 for the next eight years if healthy, and he's still got crazy upside. He'll also cost you a lot less than Peterson.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Really surprised no one's mentioning MJD - his floor is Top 10 for the next eight years if healthy, and he's still got crazy upside. He'll also cost you a lot less than Peterson.

I'd say that's about a 100-1 shot.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

I'd say that's about a 100-1 shot.

I didn't mean he'll finish top 10 eight straight years - no one does that. So maybe the choice of words was bad. But on a PPG basis I'd be willing to match him with any RB that plays 50 or more games during the rest of MJDs career until 30 and bet he's in the Top 10 at the end of it.

 

[seatownfavorite]

I think it has a lot to do with the guys you draft with. If every one of them comes in here and has this same strategy, you could be looking at a lot of value priced veterans. I understand setting your team up for the long run but there is nothing wrong with winning now. At best, a lot of the younger guys are 50/50 to ever be top 10 at their positions, and there will be a few veterans who continue to get it done.

My point is do not fall in love with a single strategy and miss out on value in your draft. Find a method of weighing potential in your $ model and look for guys that slip through the cracks. Auctions are far and away the best way to draft, but they take a little more work too.

 

[FUBAR]

A lot of these posts are great concepts and will help you win in a league, but they don't answer the question.

Starting a Dynasty salary-cap league, will be PPR, 21-24 man rosters, no IDP.

We'll start the league with a Free Agent Auction. Who are you spending your money on? Young players that might be approaching their peaks?

I am wondering if you blow your wad on an ADP, Brady, Brees, or go with younger folks like Forte, Cutler, Roddy...or better value guys like Thigpen, Harry Douglas?

 

[Kleck]

With all the QBs listed I'm surprised there is only 1 vote for Rodgers. He turns 25 tomorrow, and is currently 3rd amongst QBs in fantasy scoring.

 

[ADP]

<--------This guy

 

[renesauz]

A lot of these posts are great concepts and will help you win in a league, but they don't answer the question.

Starting a Dynasty salary-cap league, will be PPR, 21-24 man rosters, no IDP.

We'll start the league with a Free Agent Auction. Who are you spending your money on? Young players that might be approaching their peaks?

I am wondering if you blow your wad on an ADP, Brady, Brees, or go with younger folks like Forte, Cutler, Roddy...or better value guys like Thigpen, Harry Douglas?

Because it's impossible to answer it that simply. Every draft is different, and it borders on suicidal to go into ANY draft with a short list of must have players (at any price). Far better to go in with a longr list and a set of guidelines. A general plan if you will, instead of a specific plan.

 

[Tornacl]

I would agree with whoever mentioned MJD as a good RB, and I would add Slaton after seeing him last night.

 

[OddibeMcD]

I would agree with whoever mentioned MJD as a good RB, and I would add Slaton after seeing him last night.

In addition to this, instead of the 2009 rookies, take a look at some of the 2008 guys whose star has faded. Mendenhall, Stewart and McFadden were over priced last year. This year, they will be underpriced. Picking up young guys who may have faded in memory will allow you to build youth, but do it cheaply. Rice is another who could get a shot next year. Chris Johnson, Forte and Slaton will go for big bucks...but the only difference may be opportunity.