Why do I always want to trade?! (1 Viewer)

[steelers1080]

My team has lots of talent, it's incredibly deep, and I can't stop sending out trade offers.  Does this happen to anyone else? 

I've had several trades work out best for me in the long run, but overwhelmingly most of the trades end up helping the other person more because a player will become amazing right after or the player I received will get hurt (Traded for Bell right before he had his major knee injury, traded away Forsett and Ingram right before they blew up in 2014).  I can't stop trying to trade for players and future picks and wonder if anyone else has these issues. 

How do you stop tinkering?  Or would it be smart to trade Langford for a 2017 1st round pick and David Johnson for Andrew Luck?  I have 0 clue anymore.

 

[ILoveMyLions]

Great topic. I've been in this situation many times with a loaded team.  I can't sit back and just enjoy.  It gets boring after you win for a couple of years.  

For me, it comes down to this...I enjoy trading and drafting.  It is the most fun for me and in my opinion, are the best parts of any dynasty league.  Winning is the goal.  But it is always about finding that next player and extending my reign to more years.  It's about trading a player when he is high and getting value when it is low.    

#TheWorldIsNotEnough

 

[Fresh Prince of Bel Nor]

For me, fantasy football is an escape. It is an attempt to control something since there is so much junk going on in my own life that I don't have any control over. Having a team just sit there doing nothing in the offseason, even a really good one, does nothing for me. So, I'm constantly throwing stuff out there in an attempt to pretend like I have control over something...the building of an awesome roster, even one that will rely on staying injury-free and avoiding bust...you know, things I have no control over. It's my high and it's less destructive than drinking or spending money I don't have.

That and trading is fun.

Honestly, I don't understand people that play fantasy that never make trades.

 

[Touchdown There]

Forsett is 30 years old and has had one good year in the NFL.  The trade won't hurt you bad in the long run if you went younger or gained some draft picks.  Bell is young and should be a workhorse for the next 3-5 years, just bad luck with his injury and he is fully healed now.  Ingram is mediocre and CJ Spiller will cut more into his carries this year.  Not bad trading IMO.

I dropped all my dynasty leagues a few years back.  I would send out trade offers and very rarely get a response.  For the most part, your competitors don't want to do even trades.  They want to trade if the offer is overly skewed in their favor.  Without off-season chit-chat and trades, dynasty is boring.  Maybe it was just a poor choice of leagues I selected as the owners were inactive in the off-season.  Decided to convert to a large number of best ball leagues, just a couple normal redraft leagues and then DraftKings weekly fantasy selections.  I enjoy these formats much better.

 

[Eminence]

Trading is good, volatility is good. There's always a chance to add even more stud players to your depth.

Once you get the hang of your leagues schedule and how players are valued, it's a breeze.

IE: Draft picks are worth more in the offseason than the regular season. Rookies generally lose their value every week they don't produce in the regular season.

Pile up on players with potential "next year" then trade them accordingly. I did exactly that with Josh Gordon and acquired Martavis Bryant with the intent to trade him for more next year.

Someone will pony up an early 2nd for him.

 

[tangfoot]

  It's about trading a player when he is high

Martavis Bryant?  Lagarrett Blount?

 

[Soulfly3]

people who don't enjoy trading are people I dont want in my leagues.

again, fantasy should be fun. we're losers that couldnt even sniff an nfl field or coaching position, so we live thru this. it's meant to be FUN and engaging. 

Ill trade as much as possible. Ill do my best to get the players I like on my team. If a league Im in stops being any of these things, Im out, pretty quick. Luckily, w a group of guys for a loooong time who all feel the same way. 

 

[tangfoot]

My team has lots of talent, it's incredibly deep, and I can't stop sending out trade offers.  Does this happen to anyone else?

I wouldn't say that my roster is deep, but I definitely got addicted to trading in the past year.

Going into 2015 I was without a 1st round pick and had arguably the least-talented roster in my league.  I had a couple aging vets like Romo, Eli, Calvin and Forsett, but not a lot to build for the future with.

26 trades later, I have arguably the best starting talent in the league, but I can't stop making offers in an attempt to tinker further.

 

[steelers1080]

I wouldn't say that my roster is deep, but I definitely got addicted to trading in the past year.

Going into 2015 I was without a 1st round pick and had arguably the least-talented roster in my league.  I had a couple aging vets like Romo, Eli, Calvin and Forsett, but not a lot to build for the future with.

26 trades later, I have arguably the best starting talent in the league, but I can't stop making offers in an attempt to tinker further.

Yeah, I'm in a similar situation.  My team now is completely different from what it was 2 years ago, and is very talented, but it seems like my team underperforms while other people's teams overperform while facing me.  I had the most points against in our league by over 200. 

 

[tangfoot]

Yeah, I'm in a similar situation.  My team now is completely different from what it was 2 years ago, and is very talented, but it seems like my team underperforms while other people's teams overperform while facing me.  I had the most points against in our league by over 200. 

I'm two players away from 100% roster turnover since May 2015.  The two are RG3 and Cody Latimer.  I can't quite cut them and I can't give them away, it's tragic.

I feel your pain with the points scored, I was #3 points in the league last year and had 4 losses to the team with the most points scored that week.  Missed the playoffs outright.

 

[cockroach]

How do you stop tinkering?  Or would it be smart to trade Langford for a 2017 1st round pick and David Johnson for Andrew Luck?  I have 0 clue anymore.

I'm okay with both of those moves. 

 

[steelers1080]

I'm two players away from 100% roster turnover since May 2015.  The two are RG3 and Cody Latimer.  I can't quite cut them and I can't give them away, it's tragic.

I feel your pain with the points scored, I was #3 points in the league last year and had 4 losses to the team with the most points scored that week.  Missed the playoffs outright.

I ended up cutting Latimer last year to pick up a bye-week Defense.  0 regrets.

 

[Pickle Rody]

Finalizing any trade gives me an immediate sense (or feeling) of accomplishment. I'm proud of myself at that very moment the deal is accepted. I'm selfish and like to feel these things. I'm also cocky and arrogant when it comes to something I think I'm good at, so completing a trade gives me a big head. I pat myself on the back.

 

[shady inc]

it's just a game. do what you enjoy.

 

[Deamon]

I'm the opposite.  I hate trading. 

 

[Bucky86]

I enjoy it. Unfortunately there is only one other team in my league that discusses trades and then actually follows through.  Others like to discuss and then "get back to you."

 

[Andrew74]

I'm just a pessimistic guy in FF...my dynasty team is crazy stacked, but I always feel like I can make it better by trading or getting more picks.  "If I just add this guy, my team is bulletproof!!"

I decided to try and load up picks for 2017, after having lots of picks in 14 and 15.  All I have this year is a 4th round pick.  Not having draft picks is maddening.

 

[bostonfred]

I like to play a game where I do things to try to win instead of playing a game where I watch other people do things and hope I win.   

 

[bostonfred]

I still think the right question to ask is what is the best possible dynasty team. As a thought exercise, if I literally gave you your choice of all players for one roster, plus all the picks in the entire first round in 2017.  

Like if you think brady will be the top qb this year, but you have luck and Rodgers, is that better than brady and Rodgers or brady and luck?  

Would the best possible dynasty team own a young David Johnson or a more proven Adrian Peterson?  Or would it only be young and proven producers?

Now I take away one thing at a time.   Which would you rather have,  all the draft picks next year or a deep bench this year? 

You can only have a starting lineup of players with no bench except for one position.  Which position?

As we take away talent from this impossibly stacked team,  when do you start to actually feel it?  

Which would you rather have, in a league that didn't allow trades - a complete starting lineup of elite talent with no depth and several 2017 draft picks?   Or the exact same equivalent value of players on your roster this year? How much would you prefer one to the other? 

I think that gets at the heart of the itch to trade.   You can always make your team a little better.   It helps to figure out what better actually means before you do it. 

 

[steelers1080]

Just made 2 trades over the weekend.  Matt Jones and 2016 pick 16 for a 2017 1st (anticipated top 4) and 2016 pick 6 and Tevin Coleman for 2017 1st (anticipated pick 4-8).  I'm set at WR and hoping that I get some high picks next year to grab some mix of Fournette, Chubb, Juju, Cooks.  Also 0 confidence in this year's fantasy draft options, but, I probably sold early.  If I'd waited until closer to our rookie draft then people might have fallen in love with players and sold for cheaper, who knows.

 

[Ditka Butkus]

Hi, I'm Ditka Butkus and I can't stop trading...

 

[JohnnyU]

It/'s OK to tinker as long as you are true to yourself with the question,  "Am I addicted to trading and am I just trading for trading sake?".  I'm in several leagues with owners who constantly turnover their entire roster.  Yes, they are very good traders but eventually it will catch up to them when one day they look at their roster and say, wow, I could have won 4 or 5 titles in a row with the team I just traded away.  Sometimes it's just better to see how things play out for the most part, with minor tinkering.

 

[Pickle Rody]

Finalizing any trade gives me an immediate sense (or feeling) of accomplishment. I'm proud of myself at that very moment the deal is accepted. I'm selfish and like to feel these things. I'm also cocky and arrogant when it comes to something I think I'm good at, so completing a trade gives me a big head. I pat myself on the back.

I was being somewhat fecicious with this post, but it still holds true. In actuality I don't trade that often. I like to build a strong team I can keep together. I will trade when I percieve a weakness or area I could improve upon. Each year is different and sometimes declining player values will neccessitate a move be made. I'm often ahead of the curve when compared to other league members. Last year I squeezed every last drop of fantasy points out of Peyton before trading for Derek Carr in week 5. I would not have won the title otherwise.

 

[Ditka Butkus]

It/'s OK to tinker as long as you are true to yourself with the question,  "Am I addicted to trading and am I just trading for trading sake?".  I'm in several leagues with owners who constantly turnover their entire roster.  Yes, they are very good traders but eventually it will catch up to them when one day they look at their roster and say, wow, I could have won 4 or 5 titles in a row with the team I just traded away.  Sometimes it's just better to see how things play out for the most part, with minor tinkering.

A wise man once told me: "sometimes your best move is a non-move"

 

[Mr. Irrelevant]

If you're turning over your entire roster, it means not just that you like to trade, but that you're in a league with other owners who like to trade.

Spend one season in a league in which you miss the playoffs, or miss out on a title, because you sent out a bunch of trade offers in Weeks 10 and 11 hoping to fill one hole to get your team over the hump and got radio silence from a half-dozen other owners ... and you'll thank your lucky stars for even getting the opportunity to trade your entire roster away if and when you want.

 

[BassNBrew]

I traded 18 of 20 picks in a re-draft league prior to making the selections.  Yeah, i like trading.