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There’s another Donald Trump.
Well, yeah...but I don't ever recall seeing a reference to Donald Trump in this forum, followed by someone asking, "Which one?"
There’s another Donald Trump.
Thanks to us using Father Trump.Well, yeah...but I don't ever recall seeing a reference to Donald Trump in this forum, followed by someone asking, "Which one?"
As this is the rationale….
There’s another Donald Trump.
Thinking about this, I'm also floored that you're floored by this. Where do you think the average person gets his news? It's probably social media. The days of reading the NYT with coffee and a muffin in the morning are over.Thank you. I'm floored by that but also that's helpful information to better understand folks.
If it makes you feel better, this is also my primary source for NFL news and new diet fads.
I love the look on peoples faces when they ask where I get my news and I say from my fantasy football website!Don't want to be disrespectful but seriously wanted to ask - Are you serious that the PSF is your primary source for news and current events?
I agree 100%. I posted the poll looking for some illumination and found myself way more surprised than I thought possible. Makes me even more glad that I asked.Thank you. I'm floored by that but also that's helpful information to better understand folks.
So... where do you get your news then?I agree 100%. I posted the poll looking for some illumination and found myself way more surprised than I thought possible. Makes me even more glad that I asked.
In the nicest way possible, y’all are nuts!
NPR Headlines from Alexa in the morning.So... where do you get your news then?
I have some bad news for you.The PSF isn’t my primary source of most news but it is my primary source of right-wing news.
I can only speak for myself but “accurate”wasn’t the claim and certainly isn’t for me. But it is a great place to learn of something, from both left and right leaning posters, then do one’s own research on the topic.People are absolutely nuts if they think they are getting accurate news in here. Explains a lot though.
This for me, though I primarily lean a bit left on the majority of issues and primarily lurk this forum, but think that for the few posters that are able to post their views/thought processes without just attacking or name calling, I have learned some valuable insight that has led me to reflect on and in several cases adjust my view on some topics. The hard part is wading through a lot of the muck, from both sides, to be able to mine those nuggets of insight.
Voted Other cause I don't post here mainly due to the judgement and condescending that typically occurs in the topics, but wanted to express like some others I use it as an additional news source for things going on.
Try The American Conservative once in a while and at least run through Fox's website now and then to get the latest on Hunter's laptop.The PSF isn’t my primary source of most news but it is my primary source of right-wing news.
Google news feed, CNN.com, Drudgereport, some Twitter follows, and for local news the local network affiliate sites for NBC and CBS. Feel like I get a good broad range of news coverage with those sources. Have been thinking about adding in some BBC because they do better international coverage.So... where do you get your news then?
This is 100% accurate for me to. I get 99% of my news about what’s happening here, it’s my go to for quick mental breaks from workor where I’m killing time while on long webinars and where I kill time late at night.
Both of these. Seldom discuss politics IRL, and think news is pretty toxic in just about every format.This too, with one small tweak. Inside my “bubble” too. Also no one in my circle talks politics anymore, I think it’s intrusion into our daily lives has everyone wore out.
You didn’t ask me, but absolutely yes. I don’t watch TV news or follow politics elsewhere, except yahoo! or NPR, rarely.Don't want to be disrespectful but seriously wanted to ask - Are you serious that the PSF is your primary source for news and current events?
I have also changed my opinion some over the years on some issues as I debated with others ( more so on social media than here) I really don’t see many here changing their opinions even when it appears they have clearly lost the debate. I naively think I can change some folks mind here by adding some information but feel I never have. Has more to do with plain stubbornness IMO. Truth be told I don’t know why I am here except there are less repercussions to debating here than on social mediaI picked number 1. I can genuinely say that I have changed my opinion on a few things and come to respect some viewpoints that are the opposite of my own, based on reading this forum.
I agree that people are stubborn and will never admit when they lose a debate. But that doesn't mean that it doesn't change their mind. It usually happens days or weeks later when they settle down and think about the discussion in a less emotional way. I also understand that there is the very stubborn people and they never change their minds. I think the people that unlikely to change their minds are generally the loudest (and argue the same point repeatedly for days/weeks). So I guess my point is that I think there is a lot of good discussion and debate in this forum, you just have to ignore the noise and focus on the people actually having a decent discussion.I have also changed my opinion some over the years on some issues as I debated with others ( more so on social media than here) I really don’t see many here changing their opinions even when it appears they have clearly lost the debate. I naively think I can change some folks mind here by adding some information but feel I never have. Has more to do with plain stubbornness IMO. Truth be told I don’t know why I am here except there are less repercussions to debating here than on social media
YepYou missed one, and upon reflection what is probably for me, my biggest motivation: the political forum is my primary source for news and current events. A secondary motivation for me is discussing them. But, frankly, this forum is my "break" from work most days so it's nice to get on the political forum and get my "news."
I think Zow explained it well. It serves the role as a sort of aggregator of current events. News articles are often linked which provide more factual detail, but I likely wouldn’t have known of the story to begin with if not for the FFA or PSF. I don’t watch tv news, listen to news radio, or regularly visit a particular news site on the Internet. Folks here do a pretty good job of aggregating notable events and developments. And when those events interest me, I read and research further.Thank you. I'm floored by that but also that's helpful information to better understand folks.
Seriously, cut all that, add BBC, Reuters and AP, then come back to this forum. It's like a different world. I DO watch CBS local news and occasionally the CBS national news.Google news feed, CNN.com, Drudgereport, some Twitter follows, and for local news the local network affiliate sites for NBC and CBS. Feel like I get a good broad range of news coverage with those sources. Have been thinking about adding in some BBC because they do better international coverage.
Try cutting that stuff too, and doing something outdoors. You might end up not as well rounded, but exercise and being outside will do a lot more good for your health and quality of life.Seriously, cut all that, add BBC, Reuters and AP, then come back to this forum. It's like a different world. I DO watch CBS local news and occasionally the CBS national news.
Well yeah....if this was an either/or scenario, I'd agree 100%Try cutting that stuff too, and doing something outdoors. You might end up not as well rounded, but exercise and being outside will do a lot more good for your health and quality of life.
To be clear, not picking on you specifically, but some people’s identities are far too tied up in politics are current events. We’d all probably benefit from being less plugged in.
It’s not, of course, but I wouldn’t be surprised if a significant subset of political junkies sacrifice more important stuff for their news fix.Well yeah....if this was an either/or scenario, I'd agree 100%
You didn’t ask me, but absolutely yes. I don’t watch TV news or follow politics elsewhere, except yahoo! or NPR, rarely.
I would say it fills the entirety of the box, all the way to each of the four corners.We've talked in the past a good about the media bias chart https://adfontesmedia.com/
It's not perfect but I think it's reasonable.
For folks that use the PSF as a source of news, roughly where would you put the PSF on the matrix of Left to Right and News Value and Reliability?
For folks that use the PSF as a source of news, roughly where would you put the PSF on the matrix of Left to Right and News Value and Reliability?
Totally agree.It’s not, of course, but I wouldn’t be surprised if a significant subset of political junkies sacrifice more important stuff for their news fix.
Similar only ABC local and some David Muir if we leave it on after the local.Seriously, cut all that, add BBC, Reuters and AP, then come back to this forum. It's like a different world. I DO watch CBS local news and occasionally the CBS national news.
So, this is a bit different IMO. That chart is for reporters on news. You guys don't do that. From that chart, the most liberal site I've seen posted here frequently is either daily kos or msnbc. The most conservative would be newsmax/hannity/carlson. Then there's a slew of references to things like gateway pundit and conservative treehouse that this site doesn't even consider "news" apparently.We've talked in the past a good about the media bias chart https://adfontesmedia.com/
It's not perfect but I think it's reasonable.
For folks that use the PSF as a source of news, roughly where would you put the PSF on the matrix of Left to Right and News Value and Reliability?
Really not worth participating here anymore. For a long time I feel the FFA was a really good place for #1 and #3, but most of those types have been run off.
Really not worth participating here anymore. For a long time I feel the FFA was a really good place for #1 and #3, but most of those types have been run off.
So, this is a bit different IMO. That chart is for reporters on news. You guys don't do that. From that chart, the most liberal site I've seen posted here frequently is either daily kos or msnbc. The most conservative would be newsmax/hannity/carlson. Then there's a slew of references to things like gateway pundit and conservative treehouse that this site doesn't even consider "news" apparently.
I would say it fills the entirety of the box, all the way to each of the four corners.
When someone says, "My primary source of news is _________", I think it's valuable to examine where that source falls on the chart.
I think one of the reasons you have struggled with this concept, is I think its a mixing of words.
I don't think people use PSF as an "actual source of news", rather when they say that, what they mean is they are informed of news-worthy events by the PSF. This means, when something newsworthy happens, it shows up in a thread here - generally with links to the actual "news" and then discussions around that event.
So, as an example, the thread about the assault in the girls bathroom - that generated a thread, with a link to the story itself. For many people here - that is where they first learned of the story. And then, both sides have argued their respective points of views - giving everyone who reads the thread a pretty good indication where the battle lines are drawn, and they can decide where they fall.
So, the PSF is not an original source of information - such that it could be weighed left, right or center. People who post in here are pretty blatantly left, right and center, and the opinions they provide are colored that way. If you have been here long enough, its pretty easy to identify where people are on any given issue, and while some are die hard in either direction, most here fall towards the middle, and the specific issue guides how far left or right of center they fall.
I often learn about news from reading the FFA. But once I learn about it, then I will typically go to a news website and try to learn more (assuming that it’s interesting.)
If you are familiar with "third party aggregators", I'd view this site as that.For sure it's a bit different. But still a valuable way to look at a news source. When someone says, "My primary source of news is _________", I think it's valuable to examine where that source falls on the chart.
I think we tend to keep folks honest here for the most part. So I think the scattergraph would be concentrated less in the misinformation and more toward the opinion/fact side. And I think most posters are fairly moderate, so I think the scattergraph on that axis would be found heavily in the middle.Joe Bryant said:Interesting.
Do you think the representation is equal from all four corners?
If each perspective in the forum were a dot on the chart, do you think they are equally dispersed? Or more congregated in some areas?