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Why is Chris Johnson the consensus #1? (1 Viewer)

Let's not forget that if you give Chris Johnson his 85 Yard TD against Pittsburgh (that was called back)... nobody would be doubting him for a second right now.
if Peyton doesn't stare down Reggie Wayne, he has a 2nd ringif Brady doesn't get the tuck rule, he doesn't have 3 ringsif the queen had balls...she'd be king:)
If Ben doesn't get under-aged girls drunk in order to grope them in the bathroom he'd have played the first 4 games...
 
What's alarming is the number of CJ's carries that are less than 3 yards. Ron Jaworski mentioned it the other day and I was very suprised.
I've noticed this as well - its because CJ2K only takes what the offence can give him or what the defence gives up. He's a patient runner to the point he gets swarmed.He is waiting for daylight and than he takes off.I am betting he doesn't have a whole lot of 4,5,6,7 yard carries either.Its either < 3 yards or > 8 yards.
 
The sig is a joke. This has been covered over in the real shark pool (FFA). You're also completely missing the point of my bet.... as has been pointed out by others in this thread. After seeing some of your other posts around the SP this isn't terribly surprising, however. Good luck in your leagues this year.
:lmao: Serious business over there in the FFA with the WW eh?I pretty much decide what flies over here in the Shark pool Chief. You tried to bait someone into a bad bet with hyperbole and got called on it.
 
Carolina Hustler said:
sgtrobo said:
WiDDoW_MaKeR said:
Let's not forget that if you give Chris Johnson his 85 Yard TD against Pittsburgh (that was called back)... nobody would be doubting him for a second right now.
if Peyton doesn't stare down Reggie Wayne, he has a 2nd ringif Brady doesn't get the tuck rule, he doesn't have 3 ringsif the queen had balls...she'd be king:thumbup:
If Ben doesn't get under-aged girls drunk in order to grope them in the bathroom he'd have played the first 4 games...
I"m sure it's pure coincidence that you chose an off-the-field example about Ben and I have a Steelers icon under my name, right?
 
sgtrobo said:
WiDDoW_MaKeR said:
Let's not forget that if you give Chris Johnson his 85 Yard TD against Pittsburgh (that was called back)... nobody would be doubting him for a second right now.
if Peyton doesn't stare down Reggie Wayne, he has a 2nd ringif Brady doesn't get the tuck rule, he doesn't have 3 ringsif the queen had balls...she'd be king:rolleyes:
What you are saying isn't relevant to the situation. The point is that Chris Johnson had two amazing fantasy weeks going over 100 yards with 2 TD's in each. He also had two subpar weeks against 2 top defenses. I don't understand all of the drama here. It's only week 4. My point was that even against the Steelers he ripped off an 85 yard TD run. AGAINST THE STEELERS!!! Johnson clearly still got it, and is still the man to own in Fantasy Football.
 
Carolina Hustler said:
sgtrobo said:
WiDDoW_MaKeR said:
Let's not forget that if you give Chris Johnson his 85 Yard TD against Pittsburgh (that was called back)... nobody would be doubting him for a second right now.
if Peyton doesn't stare down Reggie Wayne, he has a 2nd ringif Brady doesn't get the tuck rule, he doesn't have 3 ringsif the queen had balls...she'd be king:bag:
If Ben doesn't get under-aged girls drunk in order to grope them in the bathroom he'd have played the first 4 games...
I"m sure it's pure coincidence that you chose an off-the-field example about Ben and I have a Steelers icon under my name, right?
purely.. lol, sorry.. thought it was amusing when I first typed....honestly I'm still a bit amused, but you can still have my apology.. :rolleyes:
 
Arian Foster looks like number 1 right now thru 4 games and he only played 2.5 quarters in the last game.... he is young, talented and fits the one cut zone blocking scheme to perfection, he is bigger, more powerful then CJ and has speed still.. 6-1 220 and very athletic, good receiver. I think he finishes 1

 
Looks like this will be the lowest CJ is going to be all season.

Not a WDIS hijack, but I was offered CJ for Best and Lance Moore. Haven't decided, but it shows that he is a bit undervalued, I think.

 
sgtrobo said:
tons of football left to play, but after the workload he had last season, he's already on pace to break 370 carries and it is obvious his legs look dead in a lot of cases. Fisher seems determined to run him until the wheels fall off. You can't do that with a speed back, but that's just my opinion.
Agreed. I have CJ in one league, but the best thing they can do for him and the Titans is to give Javon Ringer a few more carries. Running Johnson into the ground is dumb, and Ringer is quite good, too; he could be a great change of pace back. 15 carries in four games is not enough. Ringer ought to get 7-10 touches a game. That will keep CJ fresher and make him more likely to hold up over the season, instead of breaking down.
 
Giving Ringer some carries might help CJ a bit, but I think the only way CJ can find some daylight is if V. Young exploits the one-on-one coverages

and mismatches down the field to back off defenders from from the box.

It's pretty clear that defences are selling out to stop the run. Young has to punish them with the passing game or else

this trend will continue all season long.

CJ can't move the entire offence himself.

 
Arian Foster looks like number 1 right now thru 4 games and he only played 2.5 quarters in the last game.... he is young, talented and fits the one cut zone blocking scheme to perfection, he is bigger, more powerful then CJ and has speed still.. 6-1 220 and very athletic, good receiver. I think he finishes 1
Foster looks very good so far. Steal of the draft for sure, but I don't think he's #1 at the end of the year. Based on the way AP looks so far this season, he'll finish first I believe. He's running as violent as he did in 2008 but also getting a lot of looks in the passing game. Now with Moss to stretch the field I think we are gonna see a banner year from AP but that in no way discounts Foster.
 
over %90 of first round draft picks dont finish #1 overall in scoring

The more U know...

 
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Let's not forget that if you give Chris Johnson his 85 Yard TD against Pittsburgh (that was called back)... nobody would be doubting him for a second right now.
if Peyton doesn't stare down Reggie Wayne, he has a 2nd ringif Brady doesn't get the tuck rule, he doesn't have 3 ringsif the queen had balls...she'd be king:lmao:
What you are saying isn't relevant to the situation. The point is that Chris Johnson had two amazing fantasy weeks going over 100 yards with 2 TD's in each. He also had two subpar weeks against 2 top defenses. I don't understand all of the drama here. It's only week 4. My point was that even against the Steelers he ripped off an 85 yard TD run. AGAINST THE STEELERS!!! Johnson clearly still got it, and is still the man to own in Fantasy Football.
Doubting Chris Johnson is like predicting the weather. You will fail. And you will look like a dork for trying it.
 
The sig is a joke. This has been covered over in the real shark pool (FFA).

You're also completely missing the point of my bet.... as has been pointed out by others in this thread. After seeing some of your other posts around the SP this isn't terribly surprising, however.

Good luck in your leagues this year.
:bs: Serious business over there in the FFA with the WW eh?

I pretty much decide what flies over here in the Shark pool Chief.

You tried to bait someone into a bad bet with hyperbole and got called on it.
XBut it's too be expected, from this alias.

 
Arian Foster looks like number 1 right now thru 4 games and he only played 2.5 quarters in the last game.... he is young, talented and fits the one cut zone blocking scheme to perfection, he is bigger, more powerful then CJ and has speed still.. 6-1 220 and very athletic, good receiver. I think he finishes 1
Foster has been awesome. No doubt. I've got him and CJ3 as my two starters and it's been nice. That said, this thread was for people making pre-season predictions for #1 RB. I am pretty sure we're not going to find anyone calling Foster as #1 back before the first game. Frankly I'm fairly sure he doesn't finish there this year as teams are going to be keying on him more often now that the Houston passing game hasn't been in top form. Currently in my main league ($250/14T/NonPPR/10yds/pt):1) Foster2) McCoy3) Johnson-9) Peterson-17) Jones-Drew(calling out peterson/MJD because they were the other two backs that were under true consideration for #1 overall in the preseason).
 
Currently in my main league ($250/14T/NonPPR/10yds/pt):1) Foster2) McCoy3) Johnson-9) Peterson-17) Jones-Drew(calling out peterson/MJD because they were the other two backs that were under true consideration for #1 overall in the preseason).
Peterson is 9th in my league too, but he is also the only player in the top 10 that has had his bye, and he hasnt played yet this week. #1 based on scoring AVG.
 
Ok, here we are halfway through the season. What are your thoughts on CJ at this point? He is currently still #2 in my league, but at what point do you consider moving him, if t all? He didn't do much early on last year but then broke through big time in the second half of the season. Can the same be expected this year? He still has a great amount of value, but what can you get for him? What should you expect to be able to get for him?

On the flipside, FF playoffs are closer than we think, and this is the time many teams with winning records are considering starting to make moves to reduce depth for quality players. Do you offer a solid RB/WR combo for CJ? Quantity for quality?

 
Ok, here we are halfway through the season. What are your thoughts on CJ at this point? He is currently still #2 in my league, but at what point do you consider moving him, if t all? He didn't do much early on last year but then broke through big time in the second half of the season. Can the same be expected this year? He still has a great amount of value, but what can you get for him? What should you expect to be able to get for him?

On the flipside, FF playoffs are closer than we think, and this is the time many teams with winning records are considering starting to make moves to reduce depth for quality players. Do you offer a solid RB/WR combo for CJ? Quantity for quality?
Seems like he blew up for 3 reasons last year... (*besides going for 2k)- After the bye (prep for refreshed game plan)

- Young's promotion

- Easy schedule

It looks like he has all three on his side, but this year is different though because teams have a better grasp of what to expect of Young and Johnson. I think he'll be top 3 post-bye and through fantasy playoffs, but IMO it will be more steady scoring and not a lot of bonkers weeks like he had in the second half of '09.

 
Ok, here we are halfway through the season. What are your thoughts on CJ at this point? He is currently still #2 in my league, but at what point do you consider moving him, if t all? He didn't do much early on last year but then broke through big time in the second half of the season. Can the same be expected this year? He still has a great amount of value, but what can you get for him? What should you expect to be able to get for him?

On the flipside, FF playoffs are closer than we think, and this is the time many teams with winning records are considering starting to make moves to reduce depth for quality players. Do you offer a solid RB/WR combo for CJ? Quantity for quality?
The Titans are not run blocking nearly as well as last year. While CJ is still a great player to have in fantasy, the variance between his runs looks even greater this season then last. He looks like he has a LOT more runs < 2 yards this season compared to '09. I think that hoping for a similar 2nd half as last season, while possible, is not as likely as people might think/hope. He is going to need to break even more long runs, and considering he had a very high number of those last season, I'm just not sure I see him sniffing 2009's performance the rest of the way.
 
Ok, here we are halfway through the season. What are your thoughts on CJ at this point? He is currently still #2 in my league, but at what point do you consider moving him, if t all? He didn't do much early on last year but then broke through big time in the second half of the season. Can the same be expected this year? He still has a great amount of value, but what can you get for him? What should you expect to be able to get for him?

On the flipside, FF playoffs are closer than we think, and this is the time many teams with winning records are considering starting to make moves to reduce depth for quality players. Do you offer a solid RB/WR combo for CJ? Quantity for quality?
The Titans are not run blocking nearly as well as last year. While CJ is still a great player to have in fantasy, the variance between his runs looks even greater this season then last. He looks like he has a LOT more runs < 2 yards this season compared to '09. I think that hoping for a similar 2nd half as last season, while possible, is not as likely as people might think/hope. He is going to need to break even more long runs, and considering he had a very high number of those last season, I'm just not sure I see him sniffing 2009's performance the rest of the way.
I have watched a few Titan's games and I have to agree with that. He is being met in the backfield alot this season. And he's not big/strong enough to break tackles. He is a patient runner, waiting for blocks/holes to develop, which just aren't developing this season. Sometimes it seems he should just hit the hole fast forgoing some of that patience. Watching A. Foster last night, you can see the difference. Foster seems to hit the hole quickly and almost always gets some positive yardage. CJ seems to dance alot in the backfield. Of course when the holes are there and the blocks can develop, CJ gets to 2nd level where it is less crowded allowing him to use his speed and talent to make defenders miss and take it to the house.
 
Okay fellas...

I couldn't care less about CJ not being the #1 RB up to this point, but what I'll always remember is how he did in weeks 14-16.

v.IND, v.HOU, @KC

Sounds like Collins could return by week 14. You guys think things get better or will we see a lot of the same mixed games from here on?

Coach Jeff Fisher confirmed Monday that Collins (calf) could be out one more week, maybe two more, John Glennon of the Tennessean reports.
 
Okay fellas...

I couldn't care less about CJ not being the #1 RB up to this point, but what I'll always remember is how he did in weeks 14-16.

v.IND, v.HOU, @KC

Sounds like Collins could return by week 14. You guys think things get better or will we see a lot of the same mixed games from here on?

Coach Jeff Fisher confirmed Monday that Collins (calf) could be out one more week, maybe two more, John Glennon of the Tennessean reports.
I think he explodes in the next 5 weeks with an easy run schedule, rookie QB or not.
 
I understand that the Titans got dominated in time of possession and that the Texans were probably stacking the box, but can someone explain to me how you only get Chris Johnson 7 touches in a game? I wasn't able to see it so I kept assuming he got hurt since that's the only way I could imagine that happening.

Is he in the doghouse for something? I'm just baffled.

 
I understand that the Titans got dominated in time of possession and that the Texans were probably stacking the box, but can someone explain to me how you only get Chris Johnson 7 touches in a game? I wasn't able to see it so I kept assuming he got hurt since that's the only way I could imagine that happening. Is he in the doghouse for something? I'm just baffled.
It was just one of those days. And I can't believe I am saying this but Kerry Collins could not get back fast enough under center. Rusty was total garbage....utterly clueless. The last pick he threw was unbelievable. CJ was met with almost every carry, in the backfield. But 7 touches? Disgusting.Glad he got this stinker game out of his system. He has had a couple this year.
 
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I understand that the Titans got dominated in time of possession and that the Texans were probably stacking the box, but can someone explain to me how you only get Chris Johnson 7 touches in a game? I wasn't able to see it so I kept assuming he got hurt since that's the only way I could imagine that happening. Is he in the doghouse for something? I'm just baffled.
I'm guessing Fisher wants to get fired. How else do you explain his utter cluelessness regarding getting CJ the ball in space? Why the heck isn't CJ running pass patterns against a LB? His hands may not be as good as Faulk's, but get the guy the ball.Personally, I'm not starting him again for a while. With Rusty at the helm this team stinks on ice and if you can't even muster a FG against the Texans you have no shot the rest of the way. It also seems like the team may have called it a season.
 
I understand that the Titans got dominated in time of possession and that the Texans were probably stacking the box, but can someone explain to me how you only get Chris Johnson 7 touches in a game? I wasn't able to see it so I kept assuming he got hurt since that's the only way I could imagine that happening.

Is he in the doghouse for something? I'm just baffled.
I'm guessing Fisher wants to get fired. How else do you explain his utter cluelessness regarding getting CJ the ball in space? Why the heck isn't CJ running pass patterns against a LB? His hands may not be as good as Faulk's, but get the guy the ball.Personally, I'm not starting him again for a while. With Rusty at the helm this team stinks on ice and if you can't even muster a FG against the Texans you have no shot the rest of the way. It also seems like the team may have called it a season.
I thought the same thing watching this dreck of a game. They totally mailed it in and Fisher has lost his team it seems.

Good...the Dolphins can hire him.

 
What is more worry some is the fact he had what? 7 carries? What will his future be like? I bet he won't be a Titan long IMO. He seems to be bickering with the FO over his contract situation and it just got me today with a rookie QB they didn't use CJ more.

I will say this, CJ should be better then what he has shown, especially if you go on his tweets.

 
CJ was met with almost every carry, in the backfield. But 7 touches? Disgusting.

Glad he got this stinker game out of his system. He has had a couple this year.
the only excuse would be if there were 10 guys surrounding CJ at all times with one guy on Moss. I didn't see the game so maybe this was the case.either way, this is sickening from a team that had a chance of a super bowl this year.

 
Yes, I have more faith in AP, MJD and Michael Turner finishing higher.
at the 3/4 point:AP = 1123 yards rushing, 33 rec, 332 yards, 1455 YFS, 12 TDsMJD = 1177 yards rushing, 29 rec, 276 yards, 1453 YFS, 6 TDsTurner = 1062 yards rushing, 11 rec, 73 yards, 1135 YFS, 8 TDsCJ = 1026 yards rushing, 27 rec,. 105 yards, 1131 YFS, 9 TDslooks like it'll be a close one. At least Chris Johnson gets to face the woeful Indy Colts' run "defense" twice in the last 4 weeks
 
man who would have thought coming into the year that AP would have more catches than those other backs? Thank you Chester Taylor for becoming a Bear. :goodposting:

 
anyone got Jamaal Charles as top 5 back next year?

At the end of last year I had him right next to Ray Rice on my board for #4 draft picks for next year.. but then Jones had to come into the picture.

I still think Jamaal is top 5 talent.. and could very well see a 1700 yard year next year. maybe even 2000 if hes lucky.

 
I think the situation that CJ has found himself in right now in Nashville is significantly worse than anyone could have forseen coming into this season. Unbelievable how badly this team has laid down over the last month. :thumbup:

 
I think the situation that CJ has found himself in right now in Nashville is significantly worse than anyone could have forseen coming into this season. Unbelievable how badly this team has laid down over the last month. :fishing:
:lmao:
 
I think the situation that CJ has found himself in right now in Nashville is significantly worse than anyone could have forseen coming into this season. Unbelievable how badly this team has laid down over the last month. :fishing:
This.There are a lot people patting themselves on the back about this, but the fact is that virtually everyone predicited that CJ wouldn't come close to repeating last year. It's just that even 70% of his 2009 production was enough to project him #1. It looked like his situation was the best and most stable of the first round RBs. That analysis was wrong, so cue all of the people that show up in these threads to tell you how brilliant they are since no one is keeping track of all the other predictions they were dead wrong on.

 
I think the situation that CJ has found himself in right now in Nashville is significantly worse than anyone could have forseen coming into this season. Unbelievable how badly this team has laid down over the last month. :fishing:
Wyatt doesn't think so.Getting a lot of Qs on whether team has quit. I don't think so -- D didn't give up pt in 2nd half. But O stinks and some need to be benched

http://twitter.com/jwyattsports?from_source=onebox

 
After putting up 20-58 combined against HOU and JAX, I'm afraid to start him this week against INDY.

 
After putting up 20-58 combined against HOU and JAX, I'm afraid to start him this week against INDY.
You and me both. Slumping stud with a good match-up vs. vastly inferior talent that has been producing lately. I smell a first round playoff loss.You have to think that it Johnson was ever going to return to form, it would be vs. the Colts (who are also reeling) in a prime time game. However, I thought the Colts run D looked better yesterday, and any team can keep clogging the box until the Titans make them stop.
 
After putting up 20-58 combined against HOU and JAX, I'm afraid to start him this week against INDY.
You and me both. Slumping stud with a good match-up vs. vastly inferior talent that has been producing lately. I smell a first round playoff loss.You have to think that it Johnson was ever going to return to form, it would be vs. the Colts (who are also reeling) in a prime time game. However, I thought the Colts run D looked better yesterday, and any team can keep clogging the box until the Titans make them stop.
Britt should be back this week - I dunno if this makes any difference.
 
There are a lot people patting themselves on the back about this, but the fact is that virtually everyone predicited that CJ wouldn't come close to repeating last year. It's just that even 70% of his 2009 production was enough to project him #1. It looked like his situation was the best and most stable of the first round RBs. That analysis was wrong, so cue all of the people that show up in these threads to tell you how brilliant they are since no one is keeping track of all the other predictions they were dead wrong on.
Pretty much. I knew he wouldn't come close to last year's numbers, but I still took him 1st overall in one league. But like has been said, no one could have possibly seen this collapse by the Titans coming. They are basically in the tank, and Johnson's numbers are suffering as a result.
 
Chris Johnson and Roy Williams was just traded in my league for Hakeem Nicks and Reggie Wayne
Nice. The guy that got Nicks and Wayne must be thrilled. That combo at WR will lead him to a title assuming he has anything at RB and Nicks is good to go.
 
One hit wonder? I saw a dropoff coming and opted for Peterson as the safer pick in my 2 new dynasty leagues that I was lucky enought to land the #1 pick in back in July. However, I think CJ will represent some serious value in next year's drafts IF the Titans land a QB. Without a QB threat he may never be a top 10 back again with teams loading the box on him.

 

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