beerbarron
Footballguy
Pit lets Mendy walk and will try to get Dwyer on the cheap and drafts a rb as well...Id stash Dwyer somewhere on a roster in dynasty if you can..
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Why is nobody talking about Dwyer? (2 Viewers)
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SameSongNDance
Footballguy
I'm not sure what to think. I have always thought preseason Dwyer would give Mendy a run for his money, not turf toe Dwyer. The backfield is a muddled mess regardless, though. It legit takes two injuries for Dwyer to be relevant.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
Dwyer looked really good but the line did a great job opening holes for him to run through. I like Dwyer but Mendenhall, when healthy, has speed that Dwyer just does not possess. No Pittsburgh running back looked better this season than Mendenhall did in the Eagles game.
Sam Quentin
Footballguy
Jonathan "the Pittsburgh stealin' dealin' yardage flyer" Dwyer
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SameSongNDance
Footballguy
Someone I know calls him Hair Dwyer. Worst nickname I've ever heard.
otb_lifer
Footballguy
D'wyer Maker?
zamboni
Footballguy
Looking at his middle section, Jonathan "Deep Fat" Dwyer
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SameSongNDance
Footballguy
If Dwyer does get the nod again, the match up is obviously a bit tougher. WAS is a bit more stout on the ground yet has allowed a rushing TD every week over the last month.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Just traded Dwyer for Greg Jennings. The offer was a lark, sent only to start a dialogue. Have Rodgers/Nelson. The other owner is a Stillers homer, but I'm in shock it was accepted.
(I have Mendy stashed & plenty of other decent options)
(I have Mendy stashed & plenty of other decent options)
Hendo
Footballguy
call me delusional or misinformed but i thought Dwyers talent was his speed for a big back. I remember reading that was a key area and why he was such a sought after talent in his college days because he had the long speed to outrun DB's at that large weight no?
Franknbeans
Footballguy
He didn't seem to have that speed until he dropped a few pounds in the off-season.
It's great when people get cocky after one game. I guess I should follow suit and start acting like Dwyer will average 122 yards per game going forward... But realistically, this backfield is still a mess. Nobody is getting 20 carries a game. Dwyer didn't even get 20 when Pit was winning and Mendenhall and Redman were out with injury. I enjoyed Dwyer's 122 yards as a bye week filler for Mathews, but I expect nothing consistent going forward out of this mess.But, he's the fantasy football ninja !! He was all condescending and everything !81 yards rushing - 100 total yards froms scrimmage and a TD...pretty mcuh what I and Evilgrin had been saying all along - and what certain posters in this thread were calling "delusional" and crazy. BTW, the Steelers might have noticed that Mendy rushing for 5.8 YPC lead to a win.Have a good season everyone - especially those of you who were smart enough to bet on Mendenhall.
Why are you such a Mendenhall lover and Dwyer/Redman hater? It sure appears your fantasy season counts on Mendenhall so you just desperately hype him up to make yourself feel better. Kind of sad to watch.you probably won't.
JamesTheScot
Footballguy
This situation has me scratching my head a bit.
Dwyer has looked pretty good this season and pre-season when he's gotten to play. He's lost weight and seems committed to getting better. He finally gets a start and rolls off 122 on 17 carries.
Yes, he got good blocking. But so did Mendy in Philly. I think it's a bit disingenuous to credit Mendy for making the line look good but then diminish Dwyer's performance due to good line play.
While Dwyer did put up 3 for -1 against Oakland, Mendy was 6 for 6 against Tennessee, an equally bad run D, before getting injured.
The thing is that both Dwyer and Mendy look better than Redman. So then why not keep both Mendy and Dwyer active?
I haven't seen any news on Dwyer other than his active/inactive status in a few weeks. Has he pissed Tomlin off or something? Is he dogging it in practices and Tomlin is teaching him a lesson? Does Tomlin just not like fatties?
I don't fault Tomlin for giving Mendy the nod when healthy. But Dwyer just seems to be locked out in the cold no matter how well he plays. Just seems to me that with his potential, Tomlin and Co. would want to encourage him to keep pushing. Being a healthy inactive after rolling for 122 just seems odd. Has that ever happened before?
Dwyer has looked pretty good this season and pre-season when he's gotten to play. He's lost weight and seems committed to getting better. He finally gets a start and rolls off 122 on 17 carries.
Yes, he got good blocking. But so did Mendy in Philly. I think it's a bit disingenuous to credit Mendy for making the line look good but then diminish Dwyer's performance due to good line play.
While Dwyer did put up 3 for -1 against Oakland, Mendy was 6 for 6 against Tennessee, an equally bad run D, before getting injured.
The thing is that both Dwyer and Mendy look better than Redman. So then why not keep both Mendy and Dwyer active?
I haven't seen any news on Dwyer other than his active/inactive status in a few weeks. Has he pissed Tomlin off or something? Is he dogging it in practices and Tomlin is teaching him a lesson? Does Tomlin just not like fatties?
I don't fault Tomlin for giving Mendy the nod when healthy. But Dwyer just seems to be locked out in the cold no matter how well he plays. Just seems to me that with his potential, Tomlin and Co. would want to encourage him to keep pushing. Being a healthy inactive after rolling for 122 just seems odd. Has that ever happened before?
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Macdaddy_2004
Footballguy
It's just a numbers game - Dwyer is the odd man out on game day they use Batch and Rainey on ST and Redman is 2nd in line.
If Mendy can't go Dwyer would probably start with Redman in a complimentary role.
If Mendy can't go Dwyer would probably start with Redman in a complimentary role.
shadyridr
Footballguy
Man on Dwyer
zamboni
Footballguy
The homers would know better, but my understanding is that he fumbled at Oakland and got benched for it. But his lack of training, as evidenced by the gut, may further indicate that he still doesn't have the commitment to conditioning that Tomlin would like. If you're Jerome Bettis, you can get away with the girth, but he's obviously not Bettis.
Young 8
Footballguy
Dwyer was punished by Tomlin for his fumble against Oakland
http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/2012/10/24/3547074/jonathan-dwyer-two-game-benching-for-a-fumble-against-oakland-raises
http://triblive.com/sports/steelers/2816044-85/dwyer-steelers-yards-start-career-tomlin-win-game-foster-rushing#ixzz2A7c0FfSJ
Coach Mike Tomlin didn’t hide his displeasure that Jonathan Dwyer’s lost fumble cost the Steelers a valuable possession during their last-second loss Sept. 23 in Oakland.
So Tomlin delivered a message to Dwyer, and made certain his teammates knew about it, too.
According to right guard Ramon Foster, Tomlin posted on the team meeting room message board that Dwyer wouldn’t play the next week against Philadelphia. Tomlin also held him out of the Tennessee game.
For Dwyer, it was one fumble and two games lost.
“Coach put it on the board for everyone to know that he wasn’t playing that weekend,” Foster said after Dwyer ran for 122 yards in his first career start, the Steelers’ 24-17 win Sunday night in Cincinnati. “I’m glad to see him respond.”
zamboni
Footballguy
Watcher and Dwyer
Urlacher54
Footballguy
The Steelers have themselves a "Rusher in Dwyer"
Das Boot
Footballguy
Hair Dwyer rules.
GoodLloydHaveMercy
Footballguy
Johnny Deep Fat
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
Godsbrother
Footballguy
These are both accurate. How much Dwyer's performance last week got him out of the doghouse isn't going to be known until Mendy and Redman come back. I think if Mendenhall and Redman are healthy the Steelers are going to employ RBBC with Mendy being the lead back. Dwyer will be in the mix but probably won't be worth much fantasy-wise unless Mendenhall goes down.
DoubleG
Footballguy
I have T. Richardson, Bradshaw and other starters even ahead of Mendenhall, so no, my season in no way depends on Mendenhall. In asnwer to you question, I don't hate Dwyer or Redman. I have had Dwyer on my dynatsy team...and cut him. Mendenhall is the starter unless he's hurt. Period. That has been the case for the last 3 years and that is the case now. Does Dwyer have some temporary value now, with Mendy on the shelf? Sure. Is he going to take over the starting job and run Mendy out of town? Hardly. And I wouldn't be too quick to go around ripping people over 1 good game. How many is that for Dwyer...in his career?
Hendo
Footballguy
I think you might have a bias opinion on this.... take this from a pitts fan and an owner of none of their RBs. Mendy looked decent his first game back but he wasnt that flashy back when he was healthy. I recall dispising tbe pick as he had no explosivness and correct me if im wrong averaged under 4 a carry his heavy load season. He is also coming back from a severe injury so I dont think none of pittsburg nation is banking on him right now. Dwyer looked very good and I think everyone should leave it at that as theres no one here with a crystal ball gaurenteeing any of these RB success on this team.
AhrnCityPahnder
Yinz-o-riffic
flooredyas
Footballguy
Given the injury news about the other Pitts. RB's, I submitted a waiver claim on Dwyer. While it may or may not pan out even for this week, I could use him if my Jennings claim falls short. With a droppable end of bench player, might as well replace him for a RB with a chance to start.
JamesTheScot
Footballguy
But that's just it. Why is Redman second in line but gets leapfrogged if Mendy is out? That's what doesn't really make sense. Not saying you are wrong, just saying that move by the coaching staff seems odd. I don't see how you can start Dwyer over Redman but bench him in favor of Redman if Mendy is healthy. Redman brings what as a complimentary RB? Rainey I can see as a compliment. Not Redman.
Young 8
Footballguy
Redman = 3rd down backDwyer= not a 3rd down back
JamesTheScot
Footballguy
That's just a restatement of the condition, not an explanation.First, what does Redman do so well on 3rd down? Second, why not let Mendy have the 3rd down work and use Dwyer to spell him in the early downs if Dwyer is a liability blocking.'Young 8 said:
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
Is your friend crypkey from bigbang theory?'AhrnCityPahnder said:
5-ish Finkle
Footballguy
Dwyer didn't practice Wednesday either.Rashard Mendenhall (Achilles) sat out Wednesday's practice.
As did Isaac Redman (ankle).
No dog in this fight, just sayin'. Wouldn't take missing a Wednesday practice as anything at this point.
zamboni
Footballguy
Although it was made clear that Dwyer's was a personal (non-injury) matter, while Mendy and Redman are still recovering from their ailments.Dwyer didn't practice Wednesday either.Rashard Mendenhall (Achilles) sat out Wednesday's practice.
As did Isaac Redman (ankle).
No dog in this fight, just sayin'. Wouldn't take missing a Wednesday practice as anything at this point.
Redman is the best receiving threat on the roster, so it'd make sense that he'd be the go-to on obvious passing downs (such as 3rd and long). Pitt already has a recent history of the #3 jumping the #2 when the #1 went down. Check out Mewelde Moore, who was a career #2 RB for Pitt, behind several different #1s.
Dought Man
Footballguy
Big week coming here...150 and 2 TD's easily as Washington concentrates on stopping the passing game.
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
preach!What you call big weeks, Dwyer just calls Sundays.
Gawain
Footballguy
What you call supper, Dwyer just calls snacks.preach!What you call big weeks, Dwyer just calls Sundays.
Dought Man
Footballguy
When Jermichael Finley goes to bed, he checks the closet for Jon Dwyer..
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
Even though I'm an owner I'm still partial to this one!
Randall Cobb is not amused.preach!What you call big weeks, Dwyer just calls Sundays.
Macdaddy_2004
Footballguy
Have a feeling Mendy missed practice again today if you checked his twitter feed there is activity 2 hrs ago while players were in pads.
unckeyherb
Footballguy
So theoretically, if he gets the nod, is he a must-start FF wise?
To people that are starting him, who are you benching to make way for Dwyer?
To people that are starting him, who are you benching to make way for Dwyer?
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
I'm waiting on confirmation of him starting. But if he does, thinking of flexing Dwyer in over Lloyd.
