Why is Peyton getting so much hate from analyst? (1 Viewer)

[codyj123_321]

If the Bronco's D came up on that 3rd down last night where andre caught it & also that Falcons 3rd down. The Broncos would have been able to have 1 more drive with about 3 minutes or so in both games. They could very easily be sitting and 3-0. He has faced some really good D's this year. Steelers, Falcons(even though stats don't show it, they have quality players) Texans. If you take away those 3 INT's in that ATL game he has looked like the 4x MVP. It just baffles me how all these so called "experts" are saying how the Broncos should be worried when they could just as easily be and undefeated team right now...

 

[pizzatyme]

It's easy, they want to have something to report. They need talking points and Manning being Manning is ho-hum to them. Plus, I'm sure there is a degree of jealousy mixed in there somewhere.

 

[SameSongNDance]

Bottom feeders love documenting the rise and fall of a great. Wth else do they have to do?

 

[Beerguzzler]

Have you even seen the games? They are completely right. Mannings arm strength is not even close to what it used to be.

 

[StrikeS2k]

If the Bronco's D came up on that 3rd down last night where andre caught it & also that Falcons 3rd down. The Broncos would have been able to have 1 more drive with about 3 minutes or so in both games. They could very easily be sitting and 3-0. He has faced some really good D's this year. Steelers, Falcons(even though stats don't show it, they have quality players) Texans. If you take away those 3 INT's in that ATL game he has looked like the 4x MVP. It just baffles me how all these so called "experts" are saying how the Broncos should be worried when they could just as easily be and undefeated team right now...

1) Constantly digging yourself a hole and hoping to come back late is a horrible way to try to win a superbowl.2) Did you see the first three quarters? I place a lot of the blame on the coaching staff for a horrible game plan and/or play calling, but Manning is the guy who has to execute that stuff, and he didn't.

 

[Mile High]

Peyton has Denver right about where they should be. They have lost to probably the 2 best teams in the NFL right now in games they were in late. Now if they lose to the Raiders at home this week and Manning has a bad game then maybe.

 

[The Jerk]

The Broncos are fine. Their two losses are to the best team in each conference so far this season. (No offense, Arizona.) The media likes to tell people before the season to be patient with a player back on the field after 20 months and with a new team. But of course they can't wait to overreact to the first few games.

 

[codyj123_321]

Have you even seen the games? They are completely right. Mannings arm strength is not even close to what it used to be.

I'm gonna have to disagree, cause Peyton has never relied on throwing the ball hard anyways. His passes where always just enough to get there but it has been his touch & accuracy through out his whole career that has made him the greatest QB ever(in my opinion)His whole arm strength argument is knitpicking if you ask me.

 

[The Jerk]

Have you even seen the games? They are completely right. Mannings arm strength is not even close to what it used to be.

I don't remember Peyton being Justin Verlander in the past. I do think he looks like he's lost some off of his fastball. I'm not sure that it's actually a problem as long as he accounts for it in game play. I still think he can take his game up a notch or two. Maybe this is as far as he's going to get.

 

[Beerguzzler]

Have you even seen the games? They are completely right. Mannings arm strength is not even close to what it used to be.

I'm gonna have to disagree, cause Peyton has never relied on throwing the ball hard anyways. His passes where always just enough to get there but it has been his touch & accuracy through out his whole career that has made him the greatest QB ever(in my opinion)His whole arm strength argument is knitpicking if you ask me.

Lol keep telling yourself that. Peyton had an amazing arm in Indy and was able to make every single throw on the field. This year he's been throwing ducks all over the field, which is something that was never an issue in Indy. It is what it is.

 

[Mile High]

Have you even seen the games? They are completely right. Mannings arm strength is not even close to what it used to be.

I'm gonna have to disagree, cause Peyton has never relied on throwing the ball hard anyways. His passes where always just enough to get there but it has been his touch & accuracy through out his whole career that has made him the greatest QB ever(in my opinion)His whole arm strength argument is knitpicking if you ask me.

Lol keep telling yourself that. Peyton had an amazing arm in Indy and was able to make every single throw on the field. This year he's been throwing ducks all over the field, which is something that was never an issue in Indy. It is what it is.

Still the best QB in the AFCW.

 

[Quibbler]

Have you even seen the games? They are completely right. Mannings arm strength is not even close to what it used to be.

I'm gonna have to disagree, cause Peyton has never relied on throwing the ball hard anyways. His passes where always just enough to get there but it has been his touch & accuracy through out his whole career that has made him the greatest QB ever(in my opinion)His whole arm strength argument is knitpicking if you ask me.

Lol keep telling yourself that. Peyton had an amazing arm in Indy and was able to make every single throw on the field. This year he's been throwing ducks all over the field, which is something that was never an issue in Indy. It is what it is.

Not the last year in Indy. His velocity had dropped a lot even before the neck surgery.

 

[pizzatyme]

As a Colts season ticket holder, I have to laugh at someone saying Peyton had a cannon. He had a laser rocket arm, yes. But if I were to put it into baseball terms, he was always a low 90s guy. Now, I see his deep throws as 85. Still plenty good enough to win as most of his time was spent on the short to intermediate stuff anyway.

 

[DoubleG]

As a Colts season ticket holder, I have to laugh at someone saying Peyton had a cannon. He had a laser rocket arm, yes. But if I were to put it into baseball terms, he was always a low 90s guy. Now, I see his deep throws as 85. Still plenty good enough to win as most of his time was spent on the short to intermediate stuff anyway.

I dont own Manning in any league, but suggesting he had a + arm at any point is not correct. He used to flutter passes 3-4 year ago too. The guy has decent tools but it has always been his brain and preparation that set him apart - not arm strength.

 

[ICON211]

If the Bronco's D came up on that 3rd down last night where andre caught it & also that Falcons 3rd down. The Broncos would have been able to have 1 more drive with about 3 minutes or so in both games. They could very easily be sitting and 3-0. He has faced some really good D's this year. Steelers, Falcons(even though stats don't show it, they have quality players) Texans. If you take away those 3 INT's in that ATL game he has looked like the 4x MVP. It just baffles me how all these so called "experts" are saying how the Broncos should be worried when they could just as easily be and undefeated team right now...

Do they not count? You are not going to win many games when your QB throws 3 first quarter picks. Lots of people trying to rewrite history in here. Yes he beat people with preparation and smarts, but he also had a zip on the ball that is not there so far.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Fair or not, the current Peyton will always be compared to the Peyton of old. He is still a top 10 NFL QB (and possibly top 5 when he's not playing top defenses every week), which is pretty damn good, but he isn't 1a or 1b anymore, so people are gonna criticize him.

 

[jurb26]

As a Colts season ticket holder, I have to laugh at someone saying Peyton had a cannon. He had a laser rocket arm, yes. But if I were to put it into baseball terms, he was always a low 90s guy. Now, I see his deep throws as 85. Still plenty good enough to win as most of his time was spent on the short to intermediate stuff anyway.

I dont own Manning in any league, but suggesting he had a + arm at any point is not correct. He used to flutter passes 3-4 year ago too. The guy has decent tools but it has always been his brain and preparation that set him apart - not arm strength.

The fact of the matter is his arm has lost a bit of its zing. Whatever terms you want to talk about it in is just semantics. Peyton simply isn't what he was 4 years ago or so. He's still dang good, just not what he once was. When your Peyton Manning though you can afford to loose a bit and still get it done. I'm not sure what all the hate is about. To be honest, I haven't seen or heard it anyway. Manning was excellent In week one vs. Pitt. He was bad early on week two vs Atl but recovered a bit. He was good but not excellent vs Hou. Guess what, that's how seasons go. People have ups and downs. Peyton is and will be fine.

 

[Annyong]

As a Colts season ticket holder, I have to laugh at someone saying Peyton had a cannon. He had a laser rocket arm, yes. But if I were to put it into baseball terms, he was always a low 90s guy. Now, I see his deep throws as 85. Still plenty good enough to win as most of his time was spent on the short to intermediate stuff anyway.

He's Greg Maddux

 

[footballnerd]

they are about to win 8 of their next 10, writers gotta get the story in now, suggests all their fixes, so they can write about the great turn around next and how they were right.

 

[duaneok66]

Have you even seen the games? They are completely right. Mannings arm strength is not even close to what it used to be.

Big PM fan here - this post is spot on. You can be a fan of a player and still be rational.

 

[moleculo]

The Broncos are fine. Their two losses are to the best team in each conference so far this season. (No offense, Arizona.) The media likes to tell people before the season to be patient with a player back on the field after 20 months and with a new team. But of course they can't wait to overreact to the first few games.

exactly. he looked great in exactly one pre-season game - who expected him to look like an all-pro, coming back form a 20 months away and still in rehab?most folks expected Peyton to look great after a few games to knock off the rust, but now they are complaining about the rust.

 

[scrumptrulescent]

I don't know who to believe in here....is it the big PM fan or the Colts season ticket holder?

 

[duaneok66]

It's as clear as day - I have seen the majority of his games since 2000 - I have rarely EVER felt that the Colts were out of game, regardless of the score - that includes the miracle comeback in 2003 vs the Bucs and the comeback vs the Pats in the playoffs several years ago . . . but yesterday I felt that down 31-11 that they couldnt pull it off - yes they almost did, but still, it wasn't the same

 

[Tau837]

He is still a top 10 NFL QB (and possibly top 5 when he's not playing top defenses every week)

I disagree, and I think my view will be proven out over the course of this season.

 

[Tau837]

The Broncos are fine. Their two losses are to the best team in each conference so far this season. (No offense, Arizona.) The media likes to tell people before the season to be patient with a player back on the field after 20 months and with a new team. But of course they can't wait to overreact to the first few games.

exactly. he looked great in exactly one pre-season game - who expected him to look like an all-pro, coming back form a 20 months away and still in rehab?most folks expected Peyton to look great after a few games to knock off the rust, but now they are complaining about the rust.

I actually expect him to look worse in the last several games... he'll have to deal with arm fatigue plus weather factors at home that he never dealt with regularly in the past.

 

[Sudoku_in_the_Bathtub]

Everyone is an expert after the fact. You see all the know-it-alls coming outta the woodwork. How about the simple thought that maybe, just maybe, the Texans are that good?? They are going to be damn tough to beat with that defense and if Schaub/Foster/Tate all stay healthy.

I think that the Manning-Thomas combo will be lethal in time. (Whether that's this season or next is the question) You can really tell their timing together is just really off. You'll see Thomas break off those huge TD's solely off his raw ability. Where they'll have to improve are the timing routes (the goal to go & critical 3rd/4th down spots). At the same time, I think Peyton will have to adjust to Thomas's strengths as well (he's never been the type of QB to 'throw it up and let his WR go up get it'.

I think the Broncos will be better next year than this, but they've certainly go to be the favorites in that AFC West.

 

[The Jerk]

Just something else to pass along about Peyton...

The Broncos have the easiest passing SoS for the rest of the season.

Peyton has already played the two hardest defenses on the schedule.

For Weeks 14-17, Broncos have 3rd easiest passing SoS.

I know these aren't guarantees of future performance, and it will likely change as the season progresses, but it's still something I'd rather have in my favor if I am a Peyton owner.

Interestingly, all four AFC West teams are in the top 6 for remaining of the season SoS (according to FBG SoS).

Both the FBG SoS and fftoday SoS show Denver (and SD and Oak) with no significantly negative passing defense matchups for the rest of the season.

It's only one of many pieces of information, but it's still something worth knowing in Peyton's favor.

 

[ImTheScientist]

Answer: because the media regurgitates what they feel the majority wants to hear.

 

[flapgreen]

Peyton getting hate? Puuhleeeze..

 

[zoonation]

Answer: because the media regurgitates what they feel the majority wants to hear.

wow...that mnf game sent you right off the rails...

 

[CurlyDumps]

Because Peyton Hillis stinks.