Why isn’t best ball and DFS discussed more on the Footballguys forums? (1 Viewer)

[eoMMan]

I love this time of the year and doing a ton of best ball drafts. It’s like a Ron Popeil “set it and forget it” DFS line-up.

I’m surprised best ball drafts and DFS in general aren’t talked about more here. I know we have a DFS subforum but that place is a ghost town.

Why isn’t there more interest in best ball or DFS NFL?

 

[Uruk-Hai]

Why isn’t there more interest in best ball or DFS NFL?

Best ball gets mentioned a bit in some of the player threads (Deebo's thread is one where his value was discussed recently in that light). FBGs usually puts out an article or two on strategy for BB drafts. And there's the subscriber contest. To be honest, though, I think most FF players consider it more of a side hustle.

As for DFS, I have no thoughts to offer. I'm the world's worst gambler and know it, so it has no interest for me.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

I watch some best ball podcasts because I appreciate the player takes and learning about the game theory but I don’t invest much money in it because you’re literally playing against computer sims. Quit DFS a long time ago for the same reason. The idea behind them are good but the compulsive gamblers ruin them IMO.

 

[massraider]

Because old dogs ain't trying to learn new tricks.

 

[eighsse2]

I don't do DFS, but there is an entire forum devoted to it here. That section isn't frequented. But a few trend-setters could try to popularize it.

 

[darksideofoz]

personally, I've never played DFS and don't plan on it.

I used to do best ball a lot. I usually did pretty well at it. I stopped doing it once I had kids and my spring and summer time got eaten up in big chunks. plus, it was messing with my keeper and regular season long rankings process, so it was easiest to just stop playing that.

I consume a ton of FF content. Anything that is DFS or best ball specific, I avoid. I often will fast forward past that stuff on podcasts. with as popular as that stuff is, I'm sure there are places that have active communities, I just have no clue where that would be.

 

[Grid71]

Started a best ball thread here last year but not much chatter compared to discord. Seems like most talk is dynasty round here. Dont know why more people aren’t into BB.

Drafting teams is fun trying to get interesting correlated builds. Last year drafted hundreds of $3-6 teams in cheap contests. Got lucky despite highest owned player being Rashee Rice.

Been drafting this season since the big board dropped in January.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I love this time of the year and doing a ton of best ball drafts. It’s like a Ron Popeil “set it and forget it” DFS line-up.

I’m surprised best ball drafts and DFS in general aren’t talked about more here. I know we have a DFS subforum but that place is a ghost town.

Why isn’t there more interest in best ball or DFS NFL?

I love BB, and often mention in specific player topics when I feel a player is better suited to BB than. Dynasty or Redraft.

DFS is a pure gambling vehicle, and while it’s occasionally brought up, it seems like something best left to the gamblers. There’s a forum for it here, but this one isn’t it.

 

[Soulfly3]

Best Ball is for Gus Bradley type fantasy coaches.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Best Ball is for Gus Bradley type fantasy coaches.

BB is a blast. I always thought it was an inferior game, but after having a couple of NFFC BB teams last year (and winning one of the leagues) I really came to appreciate it.

For one, zero maintenance. None. A lot of draft prep, a long draft, and then it’s done. No lineups to set, no injuries to monitor, nada. Took zero minutes to maintain during the season compared to agonizing over lineup decisions in redraft & dynasty H2H formats.

For another, it really rewards managers who get deep into the league rosters. Playing hunches on late round players can be golden.

I love BB & will be managing several NFFC $50 teams this year. I highly recommend it.

 

[Soulfly3]

Best Ball is for Gus Bradley type fantasy coaches.

BB is a blast. I always thought it was an inferior game, but after having a couple of NFFC BB teams last year (and winning one of the leagues) I really came to appreciate it.

For one, zero maintenance. None. A lot of draft prep, a long draft, and then it’s done. No lineups to set, no injuries to monitor, nada. Took zero minutes to maintain during the season compared to agonizing over lineup decisions in redraft & dynasty H2H formats.

For another, it really rewards managers who get deep into the league rosters. Playing hunches on late round players can be golden.

I love BB & will be managing several NFFC $50 teams this year. I highly recommend it.

I just wanted to throw some salt in the eyes of BB players to get some anger in here...

I'd play it, but don't think I could find a group of ppl I know to be interested. And I don't enjoy playing v randoms.

I get the appeal, but it's not something I'd do unless all my crew was involved.

 

[C & C]

I think there is quite a bit of best ball conversations going on. It's either in a specific player page or in the FFPC Dynasty and Redraft thread. We gathered 10 Shark Pool members, ou to f12 teams, and did a best ball draft 2 weeks ago.

I'm a bit late as I usually have done 5-10 best balls by now and have only done the one. But I use them to do my research. When forced to draft and choose which one of two or three players do I want. As I'm drafting, what is the best roster construction for this particular team. I look for cheap best ball contests, I'm hoping to break even at the end of the season. The tournaments are a lot of fun, but they're a losing proposition typically.

 

[Scoresman]

I did BB last year a bit, but I lost interest. Setting lineups and free agency keeps you engaged.

It also seems like people who do BB do tons of drafts with many combinations which isn't my cup of tea either. At some point, if you draft that many teams, some of them will have to be winners, right?

 

[cheese]

I watch some best ball podcasts because I appreciate the player takes and learning about the game theory but I don’t invest much money in it because you’re literally playing against computer sims. Quit DFS a long time ago for the same reason. The idea behind them are good but the compulsive gamblers ruin them IMO.

You're playing against sims far more in DFS than Best Ball at least in 2025. Sims exist for BB, but provide limited advantage and I would argue that 95% of teams are drafted without one. DFS, majority of your opponents are not making their own lineups at basically all stakes.

 

[TLEF316]

Yeah, BB has no appeal to me. Stressing over lineup decisions.....debating FA pickups and trades, balancing my roster between high floor guys and home run swings.....That's what I think makes it fun.

If you're someone who just sees FF as money making exercise (drafting dozens of best ball teams just hoping to make $$ in the long run), go nuts.

I see DFS the same way. It's just a gambling enterprise. Traditional FF is more about competition/comradarie. Potentially winning money is just a nice bonus.

 

[joey]

I think there is quite a bit of best ball conversations going on. It's either in a specific player page or in the FFPC Dynasty and Redraft thread. We gathered 10 Shark Pool members, ou to f12 teams, and did a best ball draft 2 weeks ago.

I'm a bit late as I usually have done 5-10 best balls by now and have only done the one. But I use them to do my research. When forced to draft and choose which one of two or three players do I want. As I'm drafting, what is the best roster construction for this particular team. I look for cheap best ball contests, I'm hoping to break even at the end of the season. The tournaments are a lot of fun, but they're a losing proposition typically.

I was coming in here to mention the FFPC dynasty redraft thread as well, since we rallied a bunch of folks to do some cheap Best Balls on FFPC ove the past 2 months. Some of us posted our resulting rosters in that thread, and there was some discussion/logic posted there.

I’ve never done best ball before this year, but I got so bored after the FFPC rookie drafts finished in May. When I was reminder about the FFPC $5 and $10 best ball leagues, I thought it be a fun, “free” way to beat the boredom of this slow period, learn a bit about player values and ADP heading into the new season, and have the bonus of playing against some people I “know” from the SharkPool.

I plan on doing one more $5 1QB BB in July, so I’ll post here and in the FFPC thread to rally the troops.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

I watch some best ball podcasts because I appreciate the player takes and learning about the game theory but I don’t invest much money in it because you’re literally playing against computer sims. Quit DFS a long time ago for the same reason. The idea behind them are good but the compulsive gamblers ruin them IMO.

You're playing against sims far more in DFS than Best Ball at least in 2025. Sims exist for BB, but provide limited advantage and I would argue that 95% of teams are drafted without one. DFS, majority of your opponents are not making their own lineups at basically all stakes.

Not sure if we can state other websites here but anyone with a sub to at least three sites off the top of my head are using tools and projections straight from sims. But I agree DFS is worse

 

[wgoldsph]

I don't understand how you can remain invested in BB during the season. Once the draft is done you can pretty much ignore the entire sport until next year.

Every year I like to make a bunch of 1 dollar bets on a team or two in a conference to win everything. It's fun, and maybe at the end of the year I win 20 bucks I totally forgot about. I can't imagine doing the same thing for an entire fantasy league.

I'm assuming it's only fun if you have a ton of teams, that way you have something to be invested on a weekly basis.

 

[msudaisy26]

I love the combo approach. Best ball dynasty. See who can build the best roster from top to bottom. Still keeps you engaged with trades and free agency, but no stressing over lineup decisions or when your player gets a zero because he got hurt on the first drive.

 

[Monty Burns]

I love the combo approach. Best ball dynasty. See who can build the best roster from top to bottom. Still keeps you engaged with trades and free agency, but no stressing over lineup decisions or when your player gets a zero because he got hurt on the first drive.

and of course the rookie draft each season with large rosters and large starting lineups....

 

[cheese]

I don't understand how you can remain invested in BB during the season. Once the draft is done you can pretty much ignore the entire sport until next year.

Every year I like to make a bunch of 1 dollar bets on a team or two in a conference to win everything. It's fun, and maybe at the end of the year I win 20 bucks I totally forgot about. I can't imagine doing the same thing for an entire fantasy league.

I'm assuming it's only fun if you have a ton of teams, that way you have something to be invested on a weekly basis.

The best part of fantasy football is the draft. The enjoyment is picking/building the teams in the first place, not sweating them on Sundays until we get to at least week14.

 

[Ilov80s]

Best Ball is just a very different mindset as others have mentioned. It's purely for gamblers and my guess is mostly populated (at least among winners) by people who love big poker tourneys, game theory, etc. People are max entering the big tourneys, tracking player shares, studying builds, etc. Of course most of your teams will be trash but the idea is get a big enough portfolio and eventually it will thin away where you hopefully just have a couple teams to follow as they race towards a huge score. It's just a different mindset. If you play in a few dynasty and redraft leagues, you might think Tyreek Hill is washed up, I won't draft him or Ricky Pearsall is the man, I am taking him in literally every draft I do. Those approaches are fine in 5-10 redraft leagues but if you are entering 300 best ball drafts, you have to at some point get a baseline % of pretty much every player. Too much Pearsall could kill you and totally missing out on Tyreek could also kill you. For me, that's just not as fun as assembling 2-5 teams and making my stands on players I believe in.

 

[Pickle Rody]

Best Ball is just a very different mindset as others have mentioned. It's purely for gamblers and my guess is mostly populated (at least among winners) by people who love big poker tourneys, game theory, etc. People are max entering the big tourneys, tracking player shares, studying builds, etc. Of course most of your teams will be trash but the idea is get a big enough portfolio and eventually it will thin away where you hopefully just have a couple teams to follow as they race towards a huge score. It's just a different mindset. If you play in a few dynasty and redraft leagues, you might think Tyreek Hill is washed up, I won't draft him or Ricky Pearsall is the man, I am taking him in literally every draft I do. Those approaches are fine in 5-10 redraft leagues but if you are entering 300 best ball drafts, you have to at some point get a baseline % of pretty much every player. Too much Pearsall could kill you and totally missing out on Tyreek could also kill you. For me, that's just not as fun as assembling 2-5 teams and making my stands on players I believe in.

Best Ball leagues ARE NOT purely for gamblers. Best Ball leagues are for folks who enjoy the challenge of drafting. If you are participating in Best Ball leagues solely for gambling pursuits you are doing it wrong.

 

[darksideofoz]

I don't understand how you can remain invested in BB during the season. Once the draft is done you can pretty much ignore the entire sport until next year.

Every year I like to make a bunch of 1 dollar bets on a team or two in a conference to win everything. It's fun, and maybe at the end of the year I win 20 bucks I totally forgot about. I can't imagine doing the same thing for an entire fantasy league.

I'm assuming it's only fun if you have a ton of teams, that way you have something to be invested on a weekly basis.

The best part of fantasy football is the draft. The enjoyment is picking/building the teams in the first place, not sweating them on Sundays until we get to at least week14.

IMO it is the best single day, but not the best part. working your roster over a few months to improve it and finish better than your drafted team would have finished is the best part.

 

[acarey50]

Best Ball is just a very different mindset as others have mentioned. It's purely for gamblers and my guess is mostly populated (at least among winners) by people who love big poker tourneys, game theory, etc. People are max entering the big tourneys, tracking player shares, studying builds, etc. Of course most of your teams will be trash but the idea is get a big enough portfolio and eventually it will thin away where you hopefully just have a couple teams to follow as they race towards a huge score. It's just a different mindset. If you play in a few dynasty and redraft leagues, you might think Tyreek Hill is washed up, I won't draft him or Ricky Pearsall is the man, I am taking him in literally every draft I do. Those approaches are fine in 5-10 redraft leagues but if you are entering 300 best ball drafts, you have to at some point get a baseline % of pretty much every player. Too much Pearsall could kill you and totally missing out on Tyreek could also kill you. For me, that's just not as fun as assembling 2-5 teams and making my stands on players I believe in.

Are you talking about best ball leagues, or are you solely referencing the large best ball tournaments?

Completely different things requiring different strategies.

Amongst best ball leagues there are different variations - some are just draft it and leave it, others have weekly waivers/free agency and trading.

And among the tournaments, also different variations. Some are single entry, some are multi entry. And then a ton of variations of just a full season, most points win, some are have to win out of your individual league, to advance to the next rounds, some have teams eliminated every week, and so on.

 

[titusbramble]

Anyone with worthwhile thoughts on DFS is keeping it to themselves and printing money. Best ball is not that dissimilar to normal season long, just need to recognise which players in the second half of the draft have higher variance and adjust your board accordingly, the actual analysis of the player is exactly the same

 

[Grid71]

Best Ball is just a very different mindset as others have mentioned. It's purely for gamblers and my guess is mostly populated (at least among winners) by people who love big poker tourneys, game theory, etc. People are max entering the big tourneys, tracking player shares, studying builds, etc. Of course most of your teams will be trash but the idea is get a big enough portfolio and eventually it will thin away where you hopefully just have a couple teams to follow as they race towards a huge score. It's just a different mindset. If you play in a few dynasty and redraft leagues, you might think Tyreek Hill is washed up, I won't draft him or Ricky Pearsall is the man, I am taking him in literally every draft I do. Those approaches are fine in 5-10 redraft leagues but if you are entering 300 best ball drafts, you have to at some point get a baseline % of pretty much every player. Too much Pearsall could kill you and totally missing out on Tyreek could also kill you. For me, that's just not as fun as assembling 2-5 teams and making my stands on players I believe in.

Are you talking about best ball leagues, or are you solely referencing the large best ball tournaments?

Completely different things requiring different strategies.

Amongst best ball leagues there are different variations - some are just draft it and leave it, others have weekly waivers/free agency and trading.

And among the tournaments, also different variations. Some are single entry, some are multi entry. And then a ton of variations of just a full season, most points win, some are have to win out of your individual league, to advance to the next rounds, some have teams eliminated every week, and so on.

Since you mentioned eliminator... Underdog has a wild eliminator contest with 196,608 entries. 50% of the field will be out after week 1 from the 12 teams who draft in your draft room, 6 advance. 50% cuts continue weeks 2 through 16 as randomized heads up matches 1/2 advance. Week 17 final is a 3 team showdown.

It's the ultimate sweat each week to see how many of your teams win the coin flip each week to advance and see how lucky you get with matchups. 24,576 teams surviving to week 4 are in the money. Reminds me of the FBG best ball contest we know and love except the cuts are more brutal and player selection is via draft instead of salary cap.

Comment on the gambler angle. Can't speak for others, but I just love drafting teams and trying to build bigger better stronger. When it costs 3-5 spending an hour picking players it's mostly entertainment. Watch people sniping players, scoop values, pivot when the board goes a certain way, try to push players another round, identify "my guys". I like problem solving and strategy, so it's just plain fun to me. Months later as the NFL season is getting close to FF playoffs, can check my teams. See if some drafts hit with no expectation of making any money back. Already had my fun, winning money is gravy.

I think it's best to not expect a return. Stuff happens even when you get things right. Good example: Rashee Rice was looking like a league winner last year till he got hurt. He was my most aggressive best ball take last year for anyone going in the top half of the draft. Strangely, I felt good knowing the take was correct despite the negative outcome.

 

[wgoldsph]

I don't understand how you can remain invested in BB during the season. Once the draft is done you can pretty much ignore the entire sport until next year.

Every year I like to make a bunch of 1 dollar bets on a team or two in a conference to win everything. It's fun, and maybe at the end of the year I win 20 bucks I totally forgot about. I can't imagine doing the same thing for an entire fantasy league.

I'm assuming it's only fun if you have a ton of teams, that way you have something to be invested on a weekly basis.

The best part of fantasy football is the draft. The enjoyment is picking/building the teams in the first place, not sweating them on Sundays until we get to at least week14.

(this is a joke) sounds like you have a lot of illegitimate kids

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

Anyone with worthwhile thoughts on DFS is keeping it to themselves and printing money. Best ball is not that dissimilar to normal season long, just need to recognise which players in the second half of the draft have higher variance and adjust your board accordingly, the actual analysis of the player is exactly the same

There's a lot more that goes into building a best ball winner than that. I also think player evaluation is totally different. Boom/bust players are valuable in best ball because you want their boom weeks and can replace their bust weeks with someone else. You can't do that in a season long managed league.

 

[titusbramble]

Anyone with worthwhile thoughts on DFS is keeping it to themselves and printing money. Best ball is not that dissimilar to normal season long, just need to recognise which players in the second half of the draft have higher variance and adjust your board accordingly, the actual analysis of the player is exactly the same

There's a lot more that goes into building a best ball winner than that. I also think player evaluation is totally different. Boom/bust players are valuable in best ball because you want their boom weeks and can replace their bust weeks with someone else. You can't do that in a season long managed league.

Which is exactly what I said???

 

[cheese]

Best Ball is just a very different mindset as others have mentioned. It's purely for gamblers and my guess is mostly populated (at least among winners) by people who love big poker tourneys, game theory, etc. People are max entering the big tourneys, tracking player shares, studying builds, etc. Of course most of your teams will be trash but the idea is get a big enough portfolio and eventually it will thin away where you hopefully just have a couple teams to follow as they race towards a huge score. It's just a different mindset. If you play in a few dynasty and redraft leagues, you might think Tyreek Hill is washed up, I won't draft him or Ricky Pearsall is the man, I am taking him in literally every draft I do. Those approaches are fine in 5-10 redraft leagues but if you are entering 300 best ball drafts, you have to at some point get a baseline % of pretty much every player. Too much Pearsall could kill you and totally missing out on Tyreek could also kill you. For me, that's just not as fun as assembling 2-5 teams and making my stands on players I believe in.

Are you talking about best ball leagues, or are you solely referencing the large best ball tournaments?

Completely different things requiring different strategies.

Amongst best ball leagues there are different variations - some are just draft it and leave it, others have weekly waivers/free agency and trading.

And among the tournaments, also different variations. Some are single entry, some are multi entry. And then a ton of variations of just a full season, most points win, some are have to win out of your individual league, to advance to the next rounds, some have teams eliminated every week, and so on.

Since you mentioned eliminator... Underdog has a wild eliminator contest with 196,608 entries. 50% of the field will be out after week 1 from the 12 teams who draft in your draft room, 6 advance. 50% cuts continue weeks 2 through 16 as randomized heads up matches 1/2 advance. Week 17 final is a 3 team showdown.

It's the ultimate sweat each week to see how many of your teams win the coin flip each week to advance and see how lucky you get with matchups. 24,576 teams surviving to week 4 are in the money. Reminds me of the FBG best ball contest we know and love except the cuts are more brutal and player selection is via draft instead of salary cap.

Comment on the gambler angle. Can't speak for others, but I just love drafting teams and trying to build bigger better stronger. When it costs 3-5 spending an hour picking players it's mostly entertainment. Watch people sniping players, scoop values, pivot when the board goes a certain way, try to push players another round, identify "my guys". I like problem solving and strategy, so it's just plain fun to me. Months later as the NFL season is getting close to FF playoffs, can check my teams. See if some drafts hit with no expectation of making any money back. Already had my fun, winning money is gravy.

I think it's best to not expect a return. Stuff happens even when you get things right. Good example: Rashee Rice was looking like a league winner last year till he got hurt. He was my most aggressive best ball take last year for anyone going in the top half of the draft. Strangely, I felt good knowing the take was correct despite the negative outcome.

I could see eliminator being a more fun sweat than the other contests and I’m playing some teams, but I can’t help but feel that eliminator is way more luck than other contests. It’s going to be +EV though simply by how bad people play and fun to sweat. That’s a combo that gets me to play even if I don’t like certain things about it.

 

[eoMMan]

For those that are curious, DK has small $3 best ball drafts that you can knock out in less than an hour (and much higher stakes if you like). That's it. Draft your team and you're done for the whole year. It's fun. Give it a try.

 

[ffmail4me]

Don't care for DFS at all but LOVE Best Ball. I wish all my dynasty leagues would change over to BB.

 

[menobrown]

1. Dynasty
2. Redraft



3. BB







4. DFS

This would be my tiers for how I rank them. Really don't even mess with DFS at all until week 18 or NFL playoffs, when my other leagues are finished.

I do a lot of BB leagues, about the same amount as regular redraft, but only because I don't have time to manage more leagues. I stink at starting lineup calls so that part is alluring but it's just not my preferred way to play. Rarely do those formats have waivers so it only increases luck/war of attrition over skill IMO. Also most of these leagues are total points which is a bit dull. Mainly play BB in national type contests and I pay the teams little to no mind during the season, until last few weeks if they are alive in the finals. It's fun then for sure, but overall just find it a little lacking over working all year on waivers, thinking about lineup calls, strategizing,etc,etc. But glad it exists as it has it's benefits just not my favorite way to play.

 

[Bri]

Years ago, when professional gamblers met tech guys and designed apps to put multiple lineups in with one change each time it greatly hurt DFS for regular people but brought in huge $ and attracted different people to it.

Ya know we're all FF and yet there's a whole "bet on games and props" community of people that don't do FF. Those people seem to have joined DFS.

So that breeds a can my one lineup beat his 25 lineups thought. You can click on a contest and see the limits of entries. Sometimes they are dozens of people that put 50 lineups in at a dollar each.

They're playing the odds while you think you're using your FF experience skill or know-how.

You can definitely still win. It's absolutely still a great product and fun. It just changed some and gives ya pause. I'm intrigued by it all and a huge fan but most of my local friends don't do it anymore.

For best ball, I went very far one year. Final eight? 16? So I start clicking on teams and seeing their rosters that I'm competing against. It felt like I had great fortune in drafts and they drafted against three year olds. Can I beat what's close to the all pro team for a week to advance?
Another year, I made it to a final and lost. I didn't know how to look at their team and was preoccupied with life and had a good fun experience. Results, this contest that 200 is a very good week. I had like 275, easily the best for the season and my opponent has nearly 400 or somesuch. I remember thinking something like you had four guys that got three touchdowns. Does that ever even happen in one NFL week? Guy reached out and we still talk to this day. He divorced and lost everything and that was his last (idk) 10-20 bucks and ....whole story. He couldn't believe his luck and it was a nice feel good thing.


One year I lost to some guy with a sick kid. He signed up from the waiting room at some famous hospital while his kid was in ICU.

I can't much interact with the professional gamblers all the time. I enjoy the concepts and initial back n forth is enlightening and fascinating. The regular people...I enjoy it very much.

A lot of us use the same name on different platforms. Reach out. I think this is a way to counteract any negative vibes. It brings a whole nother experience and I like the smack talk

 

[jm192]

Years ago, when professional gamblers met tech guys and designed apps to put multiple lineups in with one change each time it greatly hurt DFS for regular people but brought in huge $ and attracted different people to it.

Ya know we're all FF and yet there's a whole "bet on games and props" community of people that don't do FF. Those people seem to have joined DFS.

So that breeds a can my one lineup beat his 25 lineups thought. You can click on a contest and see the limits of entries. Sometimes they are dozens of people that put 50 lineups in at a dollar each.

They're playing the odds while you think you're using your FF experience skill or know-how.

You can definitely still win. It's absolutely still a great product and fun. It just changed some and gives ya pause. I'm intrigued by it all and a huge fan but most of my local friends don't do it anymore.

For best ball, I went very far one year. Final eight? 16? So I start clicking on teams and seeing their rosters that I'm competing against. It felt like I had great fortune in drafts and they drafted against three year olds. Can I beat what's close to the all pro team for a week to advance?
Another year, I made it to a final and lost. I didn't know how to look at their team and was preoccupied with life and had a good fun experience. Results, this contest that 200 is a very good week. I had like 275, easily the best for the season and my opponent has nearly 400 or somesuch. I remember thinking something like you had four guys that got three touchdowns. Does that ever even happen in one NFL week? Guy reached out and we still talk to this day. He divorced and lost everything and that was his last (idk) 10-20 bucks and ....whole story. He couldn't believe his luck and it was a nice feel good thing.


One year I lost to some guy with a sick kid. He signed up from the waiting room at some famous hospital while his kid was in ICU.

I can't much interact with the professional gamblers all the time. I enjoy the concepts and initial back n forth is enlightening and fascinating. The regular people...I enjoy it very much.

A lot of us use the same name on different platforms. Reach out. I think this is a way to counteract any negative vibes. It brings a whole nother experience and I like the smack talk

One million percent this.

I think the DFS concept is fun. I know I'm playing at such a disadvantage, it's hard to go through with it. If I win or do well in a contest, it's an outlier.

 

[BassNBrew]

Years ago, when professional gamblers met tech guys and designed apps to put multiple lineups in with one change each time it greatly hurt DFS for regular people but brought in huge $ and attracted different people to it.

Ya know we're all FF and yet there's a whole "bet on games and props" community of people that don't do FF. Those people seem to have joined DFS.

So that breeds a can my one lineup beat his 25 lineups thought. You can click on a contest and see the limits of entries. Sometimes they are dozens of people that put 50 lineups in at a dollar each.

They're playing the odds while you think you're using your FF experience skill or know-how.

You can definitely still win. It's absolutely still a great product and fun. It just changed some and gives ya pause. I'm intrigued by it all and a huge fan but most of my local friends don't do it anymore.

For best ball, I went very far one year. Final eight? 16? So I start clicking on teams and seeing their rosters that I'm competing against. It felt like I had great fortune in drafts and they drafted against three year olds. Can I beat what's close to the all pro team for a week to advance?
Another year, I made it to a final and lost. I didn't know how to look at their team and was preoccupied with life and had a good fun experience. Results, this contest that 200 is a very good week. I had like 275, easily the best for the season and my opponent has nearly 400 or somesuch. I remember thinking something like you had four guys that got three touchdowns. Does that ever even happen in one NFL week? Guy reached out and we still talk to this day. He divorced and lost everything and that was his last (idk) 10-20 bucks and ....whole story. He couldn't believe his luck and it was a nice feel good thing.


One year I lost to some guy with a sick kid. He signed up from the waiting room at some famous hospital while his kid was in ICU.

I can't much interact with the professional gamblers all the time. I enjoy the concepts and initial back n forth is enlightening and fascinating. The regular people...I enjoy it very much.

A lot of us use the same name on different platforms. Reach out. I think this is a way to counteract any negative vibes. It brings a whole nother experience and I like the smack talk

One million percent this.

I think the DFS concept is fun. I know I'm playing at such a disadvantage, it's hard to go through with it. If I win or do well in a contest, it's an outlier.

The only problem with DFS is the 18-19% vig.