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Why the hate for B Jackson . (1 Viewer)

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I dont understand the kid is a rookie he had like 40 runs for 140 yds ( Ok 3,3 is low but the Packs coaching staff admitted they are running a very basic running game in pre season that make it easy for opponent to stop the run ) and two TD's.

Lynnch is like .

22 for 37 yds but most people say it s only pre season wait till the season starts , what s the difference .

and Peterson did well but again take off that 43 yd run ( dont remember against what team ) he would be

29 for 103 for a ypc of 3,5 .

And now everyone is talking of bringing all kind of wothless RB in GB ( Mewelde Moore etc etc ) those guys have been so bad that they will be cut or relegated to #4 on their team depth charts .

Why the hate cant understand , i have Lynch on my team and if Jackson is the starter in GB i am sure he will outproduce Lynch cant understand .

 
I dont understand the kid is a rookie he had like 40 runs for 140 yds ( Ok 3,3 is low but the Packs coaching staff admitted they are running a very basic running game in pre season that make it easy for opponent to stop the run ) and two TD's.Lynnch is like .22 for 37 yds but most people say it s only pre season wait till the season starts , what s the difference .and Peterson did well but again take off that 43 yd run ( dont remember against what team ) he would be 29 for 103 for a ypc of 3,5 .And now everyone is talking of bringing all kind of wothless RB in GB ( Mewelde Moore etc etc ) those guys have been so bad that they will be cut or relegated to #4 on their team depth charts .Why the hate cant understand , i have Lynch on my team and if Jackson is the starter in GB i am sure he will outproduce Lynch cant understand .
Jackson is 40/131 and 3.3 ypcLynch is bad also: 22/37 1.7 ypcPersonally, I don't expect a lot from either guy as most rookie RBs are lucky to get over 1,000 yards rushing. But I am more worried by Jackson because he has had alot of opportunities. Remember, one big run can radically change those ypc. Jackson has had 40 opportunities, which is plenty to see what he can do. He looks average to me. I wouldn't be excited to be a Lynch owner either, quite frankly. But most people graded Lynch out higher based on college performance and he is a higher pick so the nfl scouts and coaches must have graded him higher too. That means he gets a bit more of a pass to produce, but not much.
 
People don't want to believe he'll do well because he wasn't highly rated initially. Stupid IMO. He has some skill and has an opportunity. He needs to improve his pass blocking, but that's common for rookies. Lynch has NOT impressed yet and I think he'll disappoint this year. Jackson may not make the most of his opportunity, but he might.

 
The rumors on Brandon Jackson are that he can't handle a full load and that he's more of a 15 carry Tatum Bell type RB. That may or may not be true, but it's been reported by a few sources now and that's why I am avoiding this guy for now.

 
I dont understand the kid is a rookie he had like 40 runs for 140 yds ( Ok 3,3 is low but the Packs coaching staff admitted they are running a very basic running game in pre season that make it easy for opponent to stop the run ) and two TD's.Lynnch is like .22 for 37 yds but most people say it s only pre season wait till the season starts , what s the difference .and Peterson did well but again take off that 43 yd run ( dont remember against what team ) he would be 29 for 103 for a ypc of 3,5 .And now everyone is talking of bringing all kind of wothless RB in GB ( Mewelde Moore etc etc ) those guys have been so bad that they will be cut or relegated to #4 on their team depth charts .Why the hate cant understand , i have Lynch on my team and if Jackson is the starter in GB i am sure he will outproduce Lynch cant understand .
The fact that Peterson has a big run in 30 carries and Jackson does not is a plus for ADP... not a tool to bring down his YPC. Doy. (But keep in mind this is preseason. While it's obvious Peterson is the better talent, Jackson shouldn't be completely written off. Bush had an amazing play as well last year but eventually left many fantasy owners frustrated that they drafted him so early in redraft leagues. Addai on the other hand was poor in preseason but his owners were pretty happy down the stretch when his production kicked into high gear...)I'm semi-positive about Jackson having watched a lot of his college games. First, he's a slow-learner. It took him FOREVER to show he was the best back at Nebraska. I think he'll pan out eventually. It'll just take some time. I also think people are down on him for similar reasons they were down on Addai: He was drafted a little early. And this tends to get exaggerated once a player looks mediocre or bad in the preseason. Jackson was not, as some people have said on this board, projected to be a second day pick. But he was expected to go somewhere in the third round... like Addai was projected by many to be a second round talent...
 
What shows up in the preseason box score, is largely meaningless. I couldn't care if Brandon Jackson had 400 yards rushing this preseason, you're not going to convince me he's a better prospect than Lynch or Peterson. Jackson was a rather pedestrian running back in college and many talent evaluators saw him as a reach when Green Bay took him. Even if you think he was worth the draft slot, he's been ABYSMAL in pass protection and that's simply not something that will keep you on the field; particularly when your protecting Brett Favre in the twilight of his career. Jackson may do well b/c of opportunity, but from a skill set perspective combined with what we know of him (i.e., his collegiate pedigree); this guy doesn't inspire a lot of confidence.

 
What shows up in the preseason box score, is largely meaningless. I couldn't care if Brandon Jackson had 400 yards rushing this preseason, you're not going to convince me he's a better prospect than Lynch or Peterson. Jackson was a rather pedestrian running back in college and many talent evaluators saw him as a reach when Green Bay took him. Even if you think he was worth the draft slot, he's been ABYSMAL in pass protection and that's simply not something that will keep you on the field; particularly when your protecting Brett Favre in the twilight of his career. Jackson may do well b/c of opportunity, but from a skill set perspective combined with what we know of him (i.e., his collegiate pedigree); this guy doesn't inspire a lot of confidence.
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I think it's assumed GB will pass 65% of the time so I'd stay away from GB RB's.

You can't just take away Petersons 43Yd scamper unless it was against practice squad players late in the 4th quarter. Well then again it was against the Jets...

Jackson will be serviceable at best. Bye week replacement material IMHO.

 
Even if you think he was worth the draft slot, he's been ABYSMAL in pass protection and that's simply not something that will keep you on the field; particularly when your protecting Brett Favre in the twilight of his career.
:shrug: Mike McCarthy doesn't want Brandon Jackson to pull a Lawrence Phillips move with Brett Favre playing the role of Steve Young.J
 
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Even if you think he was worth the draft slot, he's been ABYSMAL in pass protection and that's simply not something that will keep you on the field; particularly when your protecting Brett Favre in the twilight of his career.
:yes: Mike McCarthy doesn't want Brandon Jackson to pull a Lawrence Phillips move with Brett Favre playing the role of Steve Young.J
still hate him for killing my FF season that year. :shrug:
 
Because he has no business starting in the NFL right now. Especially with Favre being their only chance at winning this year.

 
Cmon Favre is their only chance of winning ( Favre is totally washed out and should not even be on the field ) plus the Packers are not playoff contenders they are a rebuilding team so yes they should go with the rookie .

And after what happened yesterday ( They actually added a 4th string RB ) i guess Favre will have to get use to it .

 
Not only all of the earlier posts, but also Morency coming up from behind. I'm not too sold on Jackson and I am actually debating taking a flyer on Morency in the last round, which could be a nice pickup if he takes the starting nod.

 
What shows up in the preseason box score, is largely meaningless. I couldn't care if Brandon Jackson had 400 yards rushing this preseason, you're not going to convince me he's a better prospect than Lynch or Peterson. Jackson was a rather pedestrian running back in college and many talent evaluators saw him as a reach when Green Bay took him. Even if you think he was worth the draft slot, he's been ABYSMAL in pass protection and that's simply not something that will keep you on the field; particularly when your protecting Brett Favre in the twilight of his career. Jackson may do well b/c of opportunity, but from a skill set perspective combined with what we know of him (i.e., his collegiate pedigree); this guy doesn't inspire a lot of confidence.
:hophead: Living in Lincoln and following the Huskers I didn't like the Packers trading down in the 2nd round to take Jackson. Most Husker fans will tell you there was never a "wow" factor when it came to watching Jackson play.
 
What shows up in the preseason box score, is largely meaningless. I couldn't care if Brandon Jackson had 400 yards rushing this preseason, you're not going to convince me he's a better prospect than Lynch or Peterson. Jackson was a rather pedestrian running back in college and many talent evaluators saw him as a reach when Green Bay took him. Even if you think he was worth the draft slot, he's been ABYSMAL in pass protection and that's simply not something that will keep you on the field; particularly when your protecting Brett Favre in the twilight of his career. Jackson may do well b/c of opportunity, but from a skill set perspective combined with what we know of him (i.e., his collegiate pedigree); this guy doesn't inspire a lot of confidence.
:goodposting: Living in Lincoln and following the Huskers I didn't like the Packers trading down in the 2nd round to take Jackson. Most Husker fans will tell you there was never a "wow" factor when it came to watching Jackson play.
Completely disagree. I remember watching many a game last year thinking "Why the hell won't they give Jackson the ball? He's the only one doing anything for us." Maybe not "wow," but when he came on late in the year I was excited anytime he touched the ball.
 
What shows up in the preseason box score, is largely meaningless. I couldn't care if Brandon Jackson had 400 yards rushing this preseason, you're not going to convince me he's a better prospect than Lynch or Peterson. Jackson was a rather pedestrian running back in college and many talent evaluators saw him as a reach when Green Bay took him. Even if you think he was worth the draft slot, he's been ABYSMAL in pass protection and that's simply not something that will keep you on the field; particularly when your protecting Brett Favre in the twilight of his career. Jackson may do well b/c of opportunity, but from a skill set perspective combined with what we know of him (i.e., his collegiate pedigree); this guy doesn't inspire a lot of confidence.
:goodposting: Living in Lincoln and following the Huskers I didn't like the Packers trading down in the 2nd round to take Jackson. Most Husker fans will tell you there was never a "wow" factor when it came to watching Jackson play.
Completely disagree. I remember watching many a game last year thinking "Why the hell won't they give Jackson the ball? He's the only one doing anything for us." Maybe not "wow," but when he came on late in the year I was excited anytime he touched the ball.
That is more a statement about the state of the Husker running backs last year than how good Jackson is. As you stated, the "wow" factor wasn't there and most scouts agreen the Packers reached by taking Jackson in the second round.For you guys that want to know about a future NFL RB stud......freshman Quentin Castille is the real deal.
 
What shows up in the preseason box score, is largely meaningless. I couldn't care if Brandon Jackson had 400 yards rushing this preseason, you're not going to convince me he's a better prospect than Lynch or Peterson. Jackson was a rather pedestrian running back in college and many talent evaluators saw him as a reach when Green Bay took him. Even if you think he was worth the draft slot, he's been ABYSMAL in pass protection and that's simply not something that will keep you on the field; particularly when your protecting Brett Favre in the twilight of his career. Jackson may do well b/c of opportunity, but from a skill set perspective combined with what we know of him (i.e., his collegiate pedigree); this guy doesn't inspire a lot of confidence.
:goodposting: Living in Lincoln and following the Huskers I didn't like the Packers trading down in the 2nd round to take Jackson. Most Husker fans will tell you there was never a "wow" factor when it came to watching Jackson play.
Completely disagree. I remember watching many a game last year thinking "Why the hell won't they give Jackson the ball? He's the only one doing anything for us." Maybe not "wow," but when he came on late in the year I was excited anytime he touched the ball.
That is more a statement about the state of the Husker running backs last year than how good Jackson is. As you stated, the "wow" factor wasn't there and most scouts agreen the Packers reached by taking Jackson in the second round.For you guys that want to know about a future NFL RB stud......freshman Quentin Castille is the real deal.
Who cares what other scouts think. Most scouts thought the Packers reached on James Jones and said he was a 2nd day pick. The Packers look like geniuses for drafting him.Look I'm not sold on Jackson either but I'm willing to wait until the season starts, see him in a real live game, before I pass judgement.
 
Look I'm not sold on Jackson either but I'm willing to wait until the season starts, see him in a real live game, before I pass judgement.
I own him, and am waiting until the 2nd half of the season to pass judgment. He's very raw and it's obvious that the speed of the NFL is overwhelming him right now. He'll get used to that, THEN we'll find out if he's any good or not.
 
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What shows up in the preseason box score, is largely meaningless. I couldn't care if Brandon Jackson had 400 yards rushing this preseason, you're not going to convince me he's a better prospect than Lynch or Peterson. Jackson was a rather pedestrian running back in college and many talent evaluators saw him as a reach when Green Bay took him. Even if you think he was worth the draft slot, he's been ABYSMAL in pass protection and that's simply not something that will keep you on the field; particularly when your protecting Brett Favre in the twilight of his career. Jackson may do well b/c of opportunity, but from a skill set perspective combined with what we know of him (i.e., his collegiate pedigree); this guy doesn't inspire a lot of confidence.
:lmao: Living in Lincoln and following the Huskers I didn't like the Packers trading down in the 2nd round to take Jackson. Most Husker fans will tell you there was never a "wow" factor when it came to watching Jackson play.
Completely disagree. I remember watching many a game last year thinking "Why the hell won't they give Jackson the ball? He's the only one doing anything for us." Maybe not "wow," but when he came on late in the year I was excited anytime he touched the ball.
That is more a statement about the state of the Husker running backs last year than how good Jackson is. As you stated, the "wow" factor wasn't there and most scouts agreen the Packers reached by taking Jackson in the second round.For you guys that want to know about a future NFL RB stud......freshman Quentin Castille is the real deal.
No one said Jackson was going to be a stud , but give the kid his cahnce and we will see what he can do .
 
What shows up in the preseason box score, is largely meaningless. I couldn't care if Brandon Jackson had 400 yards rushing this preseason, you're not going to convince me he's a better prospect than Lynch or Peterson. Jackson was a rather pedestrian running back in college and many talent evaluators saw him as a reach when Green Bay took him. Even if you think he was worth the draft slot, he's been ABYSMAL in pass protection and that's simply not something that will keep you on the field; particularly when your protecting Brett Favre in the twilight of his career. Jackson may do well b/c of opportunity, but from a skill set perspective combined with what we know of him (i.e., his collegiate pedigree); this guy doesn't inspire a lot of confidence.
:yes: Living in Lincoln and following the Huskers I didn't like the Packers trading down in the 2nd round to take Jackson. Most Husker fans will tell you there was never a "wow" factor when it came to watching Jackson play.
Completely disagree. I remember watching many a game last year thinking "Why the hell won't they give Jackson the ball? He's the only one doing anything for us." Maybe not "wow," but when he came on late in the year I was excited anytime he touched the ball.
That is more a statement about the state of the Husker running backs last year than how good Jackson is. As you stated, the "wow" factor wasn't there and most scouts agreen the Packers reached by taking Jackson in the second round.For you guys that want to know about a future NFL RB stud......freshman Quentin Castille is the real deal.
Who cares what other scouts think. Most scouts thought the Packers reached on James Jones and said he was a 2nd day pick. The Packers look like geniuses for drafting him.Look I'm not sold on Jackson either but I'm willing to wait until the season starts, see him in a real live game, before I pass judgement.
I'm not sold on him either and like you I'm willing to wait to pass judgement. As a Husker and Packer fan I hope he succeeds.
 
and Peterson did well but again take off that 43 yd run ( dont remember against what team ) he would be 29 for 103 for a ypc of 3,5 .
That's a good point but I'd take it even a step further. If you take that 43 yard run you deducted from Petersons totals... and then add that 43 yard run to Brandon Jacksons totals..... well, it's pretty obvious. The people backing Peterson as being a much better back would be looking pretty silly at that point.
 
What shows up in the preseason box score, is largely meaningless. I couldn't care if Brandon Jackson had 400 yards rushing this preseason, you're not going to convince me he's a better prospect than Lynch or Peterson. Jackson was a rather pedestrian running back in college and many talent evaluators saw him as a reach when Green Bay took him. Even if you think he was worth the draft slot, he's been ABYSMAL in pass protection and that's simply not something that will keep you on the field; particularly when your protecting Brett Favre in the twilight of his career. Jackson may do well b/c of opportunity, but from a skill set perspective combined with what we know of him (i.e., his collegiate pedigree); this guy doesn't inspire a lot of confidence.
Well said.
 
ITS PRESEASON

I said OJ Anderson was a bust for the same reason and he broke the freaken rookie rushing record in the 1st game and would have won the rushing title if he hadn't got hurt in the last game.

Only yards gained in the regular season count.

A reach is a player who would have been available in the next round. The Packers obviously didn't think he was going to come back to them in the 3rd. We will never know if he was a reach or not but you have to assume that they have some idea of who the other teams are looking at.

 
Sunday, September 02, 5:19 PM EST (Week Pre-season)

News Story: RB Vernand Morency appeared to be participating fully for the first time and also looked healthy. He got a lot of personal work with QB Brett Favre on the side. Looked like a tutoring session.

Fantasy Analysis: Morency missed most of the preseason, returning just in time for the first week of real practice. Even though he is still listed as the starter on the depth chart, we believe Brandon Jackson will get the start and share carries with Morency.

Source: Fantasy Insights

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A reach is a player who would have been available in the next round. The Packers obviously didn't think he was going to come back to them in the 3rd. We will never know if he was a reach or not but you have to assume that they have some idea of who the other teams are looking at.
Do you also have to assume that oak had some idea who the other teams were looking at when they drafted Janikowski in middle of the first round? We don't know if he was a reach or not?
 
I said OJ Anderson was a bust for the same reason
Anderson had a stellar collegiate career. He was a Top 10 pick the year he entered the NFL. If you said Anderson was a bust at the time then you must not have been paying attention to how good Anderson was coming into the league because there were a number of signs based on his proven collegiate production which indicated he was going to have a very promising NFL career - which proved to be the case. If Jackson had even close to a similar pedigree his generally poor preseason and camp would not be viewed in a similar light. But he came into the league in the eyes of many as nothing more than an ordinary NFL running back at best and thus far he's shown no indication that scouting report was incorrect. As a Packers fan I hope he proves that report wrong but based on what I saw from him college and what I've seen from him thus far I'm hardly optimistic that he will.
 
I said OJ Anderson was a bust for the same reason
Anderson had a stellar collegiate career. He was a Top 10 pick the year he entered the NFL. If you said Anderson was a bust at the time then you must not have been paying attention to how good Anderson was coming into the league because there were a number of signs based on his proven collegiate production which indicated he was going to have a very promising NFL career - which proved to be the case. If Jackson had even close to a similar pedigree his generally poor preseason and camp would not be viewed in a similar light. But he came into the league in the eyes of many as nothing more than an ordinary NFL running back at best and thus far he's shown no indication that scouting report was incorrect. As a Packers fan I hope he proves that report wrong but based on what I saw from him college and what I've seen from him thus far I'm hardly optimistic that he will.
:wub:
 
What shows up in the preseason box score, is largely meaningless. I couldn't care if Brandon Jackson had 400 yards rushing this preseason, you're not going to convince me he's a better prospect than Lynch or Peterson. Jackson was a rather pedestrian running back in college and many talent evaluators saw him as a reach when Green Bay took him. Even if you think he was worth the draft slot, he's been ABYSMAL in pass protection and that's simply not something that will keep you on the field; particularly when your protecting Brett Favre in the twilight of his career. Jackson may do well b/c of opportunity, but from a skill set perspective combined with what we know of him (i.e., his collegiate pedigree); this guy doesn't inspire a lot of confidence.
Well said.
You WILL KNOW by next week. The Eagles are going to Blitz on every down frpm every direction and Jackson should be on the field on almost every down. Morency just started practicing today and he can't be in very good shape. With Herron out they have NO established 3rd down back. His blocking started improving when he stepped into the blocker. If he doesn't he will get run over. On the positive side he gets to practice against Hawk and Bennett and if he can succeed against them he has a chance.How come Rudi Johnson keeps getting selected in the 1st round? He looks a lot like Jackson to me. Of course Rudi was a loser based on his speed UNTIL the Bengals were forced to give him the ball due to injuries. Jackson will never be an LT but he could be a Rudi Johnson. Only time will tell.
 
I said OJ Anderson was a bust for the same reason
Anderson had a stellar collegiate career. He was a Top 10 pick the year he entered the NFL. If you said Anderson was a bust at the time then you must not have been paying attention to how good Anderson was coming into the league because there were a number of signs based on his proven collegiate production which indicated he was going to have a very promising NFL career - which proved to be the case. If Jackson had even close to a similar pedigree his generally poor preseason and camp would not be viewed in a similar light. But he came into the league in the eyes of many as nothing more than an ordinary NFL running back at best and thus far he's shown no indication that scouting report was incorrect. As a Packers fan I hope he proves that report wrong but based on what I saw from him college and what I've seen from him thus far I'm hardly optimistic that he will.
He played well in the first two pre season game , but unfortunately he faced a Jag defense in the 3rd game ( And the jags defense will often hold RB even the bests to a less then 2 ypc this season ) so i thing he will be OK .1) VS a tough Steeler defense 16 for 57 not in his first NFL start .2) VS a decent Seahawks defense 13 for 54 .In the first two pre season games he had like a 4ypc average .Then he faced the best run defense in the league and they held him in check , so what s the problem .Bretty is complaining about pass protection , you know Favre is washed out aniways and should have retired ( He always complains for eveyrthing )
 
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How come Rudi Johnson keeps getting selected in the 1st round?
Because he's rushed for more than 1,300 yards and scored 12 touchdowns in each of the past three seasons?I'd love for Jackson to be a Green Bay version of Rudi because I'm a huge Rudi Johnson fan. But I don't see anything close to resembling the same level of talent from Jackson that Rudi displays.
 
How come Rudi Johnson keeps getting selected in the 1st round? He looks a lot like Jackson to me.
Only because of a lot of "ty"s.Productivity.Opportunity.History.Sanity.Wait a minute, History doesn't have a "ty"..... maybe 'cos he's just plain better.
 
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How come Rudi Johnson keeps getting selected in the 1st round?
Because he's rushed for more than 1,300 yards and scored 12 touchdowns in each of the past three seasons?I'd love for Jackson to be a Green Bay version of Rudi because I'm a huge Rudi Johnson fan. But I don't see anything close to resembling the same level of talent from Jackson that Rudi displays.
And that s going to be his last as a starter ( If Irons had not gotten injured he might have taken Rudi's job ) they did nt like is 3,5 ypc last season .
 
How come Rudi Johnson keeps getting selected in the 1st round?
Because he's rushed for more than 1,300 yards and scored 12 touchdowns in each of the past three seasons?I'd love for Jackson to be a Green Bay version of Rudi because I'm a huge Rudi Johnson fan. But I don't see anything close to resembling the same level of talent from Jackson that Rudi displays.
And that s going to be his last as a starter ( If Irons had not gotten injured he might have taken Rudi's job ) they did nt like is 3,5 ypc last season .
It was 3.8 and while that was a source of concern there were no indications whatsoever that Rudi's starting job was in jeopardy. Irons was going to replace Chris Perry as the third-down RB if he hadn't gotten hurt. He wasn't a threat to Johnson. The people who thought Irons was going to start could be the same folks who kept trying to sell Perry as the future starting RB too and that sure hasn't panned out.
 
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What shows up in the preseason box score, is largely meaningless. I couldn't care if Brandon Jackson had 400 yards rushing this preseason, you're not going to convince me he's a better prospect than Lynch or Peterson. Jackson was a rather pedestrian running back in college and many talent evaluators saw him as a reach when Green Bay took him. Even if you think he was worth the draft slot, he's been ABYSMAL in pass protection and that's simply not something that will keep you on the field; particularly when your protecting Brett Favre in the twilight of his career. Jackson may do well b/c of opportunity, but from a skill set perspective combined with what we know of him (i.e., his collegiate pedigree); this guy doesn't inspire a lot of confidence.
Opportunity is the only thing I see going for him. To answer the post, it isnt hate its disgust that a Football team with a history for greatness picks up Jackson who started for 3/4 of a season way to early in the draft. I thought they did great with the first pick and great with the Jones pick, I thought the Jackson Pick negated all the rest. I dont think he is much of a talent. Thats my opinion. If Jackson turns into a stud I'll be more than happy to try and draft him next year. It would not be the first time I was wrong and would not be the last.
 
I can't believe no sharks are mentioning the contributions of D. Wynn in the Shark Pool. I'm pretty high on him because he has GB's only 2 TDs and sat out preseason because he was hurt. Jackson got the start by default, but I think as the season moves on he'll contribute less and less. Has he had a run or catch over 10 yards yet. Did you see how upset Brett was when he dropped that ball thrown to him in week 1? I just don't see much upside for him. I'd handcuff him with Wynn or Morency if I had him on my squad...

 

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