***Wild Card Game Thread*** New York Jets at Indianapolis (1 Viewer)

[njherdfan]

The timeout was so that if they stopped them and the Jets made a field goal, they'd still have 30 seconds or so to ge another field goal.

Have to disagree with you on this one. It was 2nd down. If it was 3rd down, sure I get it. But 2nd? Basically what the Colts did was give them a free play. The Jets would have taken another play (which they did) to expire the time. No way were they going to give Indy the ball back.Plain and simple. Boneheaded TO call by Caldwell. Even Manning was looking like "WTF". Can't blame him.

made no sense

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

Jets play on Sunday next week, right?

4.30 next Sunday according to the Jets post game show on SNY

Thanks

it's up on nfl.com

 

[Reaper]

SWEET!!!

Finally go the 96'' Projector going tonight.

 

[Saint]

The timeout was so that if they stopped them and the Jets made a field goal, they'd still have 30 seconds or so to ge another field goal.

That Edwards catch was crazy. I'm pretty sure Edwards just jumped to catch another overthrow.

Great game. Their investments are paying off. Cromartie, Edwards, Holmes (shaky sometimes though and LT all showed up. This will give the Jets some momentum going into the Pats game.

He made a good catch at an important time. ETA: Jets play on Sunday next week, right?

He got out of bounds too. Should have stopped the clock. No matter anyway I guess.

Not really.. He was touched and his knee hit in bounds before he went out of bounds. The play clock would still run.

He was untouched and his hand touched out of bounds as he came down (after his feet were down).

It's close, but it looks like his inside arm hit the defender's foot before he went out of bounds.You Tube

 

[TheWheel]

The Jets were going to pass the ball. They were still in iffy FG territory. They ran the ball to cut some clock. They are going to pass. You get an incompletion, it's third down. They only run if they trust Folk--it'd be a fifty yard FG. Get another incompletion and you still get a KR and 10-15 second if he makes it. Better than a walk off I guess.

 

[Chemical X]

i am a long time jet fan, back to the late 70s richard todd era. i did not think they could win this game. guess i am not very optimistic about winning 3 road games, 1 in indy and 1 in n.e., plus 1 more. i think this team won in spite of the qb....again. i have been a sanchez hater since day one. his % completion is brutal, he looks lost often, small hands and can't play in rough weather. the o line stepped up here and controlled the 2nd half. caldwell had a rough day, starting with a brutal challeneg and ending with a pointless timeout, allowing a free play, one that won the game.

i look forward to another week of football and ask this question:

12 teams started the playoffs, who would be the last qb taken in a draft to win one game?

 

[TheWheel]

Give him a couple of years?

 

[njherdfan]

Reggie Wayne: 1 catch for 1 yard. Well done Mr. Revis

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

The timeout was so that if they stopped them and the Jets made a field goal, they'd still have 30 seconds or so to ge another field goal.

Have to disagree with you on this one. It was 2nd down. If it was 3rd down, sure I get it. But 2nd? Basically what the Colts did was give them a free play. The Jets would have taken another play (which they did) to expire the time. No way were they going to give Indy the ball back.Plain and simple. Boneheaded TO call by Caldwell. Even Manning was looking like "WTF". Can't blame him.

made no sense

Remember there was a lot of debate about his timeout near the end of the game in Jacksonville that helped the Jaguars get in position to win with a 59-yard FG.

 

[Crash Davis]

i am a long time jet fan, back to the late 70s richard todd era. i did not think they could win this game. guess i am not very optimistic about winning 3 road games, 1 in indy and 1 in n.e., plus 1 more. i think this team won in spite of the qb....again. i have been a sanchez hater since day one. his % completion is brutal, he looks lost often, small hands and can't play in rough weather. the o line stepped up here and controlled the 2nd half. caldwell had a rough day, starting with a brutal challeneg and ending with a pointless timeout, allowing a free play, one that won the game.

i look forward to another week of football and ask this question:

12 teams started the playoffs, who would be the last qb taken in a draft to win one game?

Matt Cassel, the guy who has never taken a snap in a playoff game. It's easy to forget that Sanchez was a one year starter at USC and is now in his second season as a pro. He has his moments of looking lost, but he took huge strides forward this year. He's also shown he has the moxy to win in big games. He is now 3-1 as a playoff starter, and went 9-11 down the stretch in this game including one very catchable ball that was dropped. I like the kid, though I obviously cringe at some of his decisions and passes. I think he can and will turn out to be a very good QB over time. In his second season he turned around a terrible TD/INT ratio and led a much improved passing game. Also, after reading this story i'm an even bigger fan of his as person in general and I think it bodes well for his future as a leader.

http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5991920

 

[sjacksonfan]

It's close, but it looks like his inside arm hit the defender's foot before he went out of bounds.

You Tube

Watching it on my tv right now. He's untouched and his left hand touches out of bounds.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

It's easy to forget that Sanchez was a one year starter at USC and is now in his second season as a pro. He has his moments of looking lost, but he took huge strides forward this year. He's also shown he has the moxy to win in big games. He is now 3-1 as a playoff starter

Meh, misleading stat. In those 3 playoff wins the Jets held 3 opponents with great offenses and bad defenses to under 17 points and also ran for 150+ yards on the ground in each of them.It's hard to imagine any NFL qb, much less any NFL starter, that wouldn't win those 3 games.Maybe Jamarcus Russell couldn't have pulled it off. It's hard to think of any others.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

It's close, but it looks like his inside arm hit the defender's foot before he went out of bounds.

You Tube

Watching it on my tv right now. He's untouched and his left hand touches out of bounds.

Maybe that huge pushoff by Edwards counted as a "touch".

 

[sjacksonfan]

It's close, but it looks like his inside arm hit the defender's foot before he went out of bounds.

You Tube

Watching it on my tv right now. He's untouched and his left hand touches out of bounds.

Maybe that huge pushoff by Edwards counted as a "touch".

Slight pushoff. Good no call imo..

 

[knickstorm]

It's easy to forget that Sanchez was a one year starter at USC and is now in his second season as a pro. He has his moments of looking lost, but he took huge strides forward this year. He's also shown he has the moxy to win in big games. He is now 3-1 as a playoff starter

Meh, misleading stat. In those 3 playoff wins the Jets held 3 opponents with great offenses and bad defenses to under 17 points and also ran for 150+ yards on the ground in each of them.It's hard to imagine any NFL qb, much less any NFL starter, that wouldn't win those 3 games.Maybe Jamarcus Russell couldn't have pulled it off. It's hard to think of any others.

isnt part of that also due to the offense controlling the ball and clock? if sanchez was going 3 and out every other drive, the defense wouldnt hold teams to under 17 points....what about offense avoiding turnovers?field position?and the teams were bad defenses? bengals was 6th in points against last year, chargers were just outside the top 10 at 11th. you're reaching bro.Tom Brady is 2-3 when his defense doesnt hold team at 21 or under inthe playoffs, does that really mean anything?the Jets play a grind it out style game. They're not going into the game looking to move the ball up and down the field. They dont look for the blowout, they hope to get an early lead and just run the ball to control the clock. When that happens and the Jets dominate time of possession it becomes hard for the opponent to put points on the board, that's hardly an indictment against Sanchez. If the defense doesnt do it's job and the game gets into a shootout, then of course they're more likely going to lose cause it's not their style. bottom line yea he played poorly but when the game is on the line, he came through and got the team where they needed to win the game.

 

[Kevin Ashcraft]

One fact that I don't know has been said. This is the first time in their history that the Jets have had consecutive season with playoff wins, let alone on the road.

Hard to believe.

 

[TheWheel]

Not really. They haven't really done much since the Joe Namath game...

 

[njherdfan]

One fact that I don't know has been said. This is the first time in their history that the Jets have had consecutive season with playoff wins, let alone on the road.Hard to believe.

Or that Mark Sanchez has the franchise record for playoff wins as a QB. With 3.

 

[NE_REVIVAL]

It's easy to forget that Sanchez was a one year starter at USC and is now in his second season as a pro. He has his moments of looking lost, but he took huge strides forward this year. He's also shown he has the moxy to win in big games. He is now 3-1 as a playoff starter

Meh, misleading stat. In those 3 playoff wins the Jets held 3 opponents with great offenses and bad defenses to under 17 points and also ran for 150+ yards on the ground in each of them.It's hard to imagine any NFL qb, much less any NFL starter, that wouldn't win those 3 games.

Maybe Jamarcus Russell couldn't have pulled it off. It's hard to think of any others.

isnt part of that also due to the offense controlling the ball and clock? if sanchez was going 3 and out every other drive, the defense wouldnt hold teams to under 17 points....what about offense avoiding turnovers?field position?and the teams were bad defenses? bengals was 6th in points against last year, chargers were just outside the top 10 at 11th. you're reaching bro.

Tom Brady is 2-3 when his defense doesnt hold team at 21 or under inthe playoffs, does that really mean anything?

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bottom line yea he played poorly but when the game is on the line, he came through and got the team where they needed to win the game.

I believe the bolded statement is incorrect and Brady is actually 4-3 in such situations.Evaluating a QBs play in the playoffs involves more than just stat crunching, but having a solid D certainly helps

However, in general I agree; when a play is made, can and does add a lot of weight (imho) and stats often do not reflect that.

 

[Mr. Mojo]

It's close, but it looks like his inside arm hit the defender's foot before he went out of bounds.

You Tube

Watching it on my tv right now. He's untouched and his left hand touches out of bounds.

Maybe that huge pushoff by Edwards counted as a "touch".

Slight pushoff. Good no call imo..

I watched the replay a couple times and it was more than slight - it could easily have been called.Whether it was called or not, the announcers should at least have mentioned it.

I am not a Colts fan so it's not sour grapes from me.

 

[Crash Davis]

i look forward to another week of football and ask this question:12 teams started the playoffs, who would be the last qb taken in a draft to win one game?

Matt Cassel, the guy who has never taken a snap in a playoff game.

 

[knickstorm]

It's easy to forget that Sanchez was a one year starter at USC and is now in his second season as a pro. He has his moments of looking lost, but he took huge strides forward this year. He's also shown he has the moxy to win in big games. He is now 3-1 as a playoff starter

Meh, misleading stat. In those 3 playoff wins the Jets held 3 opponents with great offenses and bad defenses to under 17 points and also ran for 150+ yards on the ground in each of them.It's hard to imagine any NFL qb, much less any NFL starter, that wouldn't win those 3 games.

Maybe Jamarcus Russell couldn't have pulled it off. It's hard to think of any others.

isnt part of that also due to the offense controlling the ball and clock? if sanchez was going 3 and out every other drive, the defense wouldnt hold teams to under 17 points....what about offense avoiding turnovers?field position?and the teams were bad defenses? bengals was 6th in points against last year, chargers were just outside the top 10 at 11th. you're reaching bro.

Tom Brady is 2-3 when his defense doesnt hold team at 21 or under inthe playoffs, does that really mean anything?

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bottom line yea he played poorly but when the game is on the line, he came through and got the team where they needed to win the game.

I believe the bolded statement is incorrect and Brady is actually 4-3 in such situations.Evaluating a QBs play in the playoffs involves more than just stat crunching, but having a solid D certainly helps

However, in general I agree; when a play is made, can and does add a lot of weight (imho) and stats often do not reflect that.

no it's correct, when the defense allows more than 21 points he's 2-333-14 loss against baltimore last year

38-34 loss to the colts in 2006

27-13 loss to denver in 05

41-27 win against pitt in 04

32-29 win in 2003 super bowl

chiefs game today was a perfect example of it's crazy to say "any qb can win if your defense holds them to 17 points or less"

if you play like matt cassel did, your defense isn't going to be able to keep the other team off the scoreboard.