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Coach Jack Del Rio said yesterday that WR Ernest Wilford will get an expanded role in the offense after catching six passes for 145 yards Sunday.Wilford may start against the Texans in place of WR Reggie Williams. "You know Yankee baseball lore. Wally Pipp? You don't know how it's going to happen," Del Rio said. "Ultimately, you have to take advantage of your opportunity. I think [Wilford] stepped forward and said very clearly, "I want more playing time, coach. Throw the ball to me.'" Source: Florida Times Union

 
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Do you think the coaching staff would actually sit ReggieI've heared the hype about this kid but he still hasn't produced in "game situation"Everytime I watch a Jags highlight reel I see Wilford

 
Do you think the coaching staff would actually sit Reggie
It sure sounds like it.
Del Rio says Wilford will get bigger role

Second-year WR impressive

By VITO STELLINO, The Times-Union

Wide receiver Reggie Williams might turn out to be the Jaguars' version of Wally Pipp.

Williams suffered a concussion Sunday in St. Louis, opening the door for Ernest Wilford to get extended playing time, and he took advantage of the opportunity.

Wilford caught six passes for 145 yards and a touchdown, and coach Jack Del Rio said Monday that the performance earned Wilford more playing time. He could start against Houston on Sunday at Alltel Stadium.

Wilford has been mainly a special-teams player the last two seasons. He was drafted in the fourth round in 2004. Meanwhile, the Jaguars took Williams and Matt Jones on the first round the last two years and the Jaguars have a big investments in them.

Wilford has had a knack for making big plays when he did play, but Williams kept the starting job even though he has yet to make a major impact on the field.

Del Rio compared the wide receiver situation to Pipp, who, according to baseball lore, had a headache on June 2, 1925 and was replaced that by Lou Gehrig, who stayed in the lineup for the next 2,130 games.

"You know Yankee baseball lore. Wally Pipp? You don't know how it's going to happen. Ultimately, you have to take advantage of your opportunity. I think [Wilford] stepped forward and said very clearly, "I want more playing time, coach. Throw the ball to me,'' Del Rio said.

That doesn't mean Del Rio was saying that Williams, whose status is uncertain for this week while he gets more tests, won't get his job back.

But if Wilford gets the starting job and keeping producing the way he did Sunday, it might be hard to get him out of the lineup.

"We're going to play the best people. We're going to play the guys that produce. We want to win. We're all about winning,'' Del Rio said.

At least from a statistical standpoint, Wilford has outplayed Williams this year even though he's had only a fraction of his playing time.

He has 15 catches for 262 yards and three touchdowns. Williams has six more catches, but for fewer yards (246) and no touchdowns.

Del Rio insisted that politics didn't play a role in Williams and Jones starting ahead of Wilford because they were first-round picks.

"As far as politics being a part of this process, that's kind of offensive to me, not kind of. It is,'' Del Rio said.

"I think the fact that a guy is selected [in the first round] means you saw something in that player, and unless you stop seeing it, there's no reason to change it. When somebody else comes along, whether he's a free agent or whether it's this particular situation we're referring to, when somebody comes along and produces, they're going to play more,'' he said.

Williams, though, struggled from the start. He had only 27 catches last year while Wilford had 19 in limited action. Wilford also established himself as a play-maker from his first game last year when he made the game-winning catch in Buffalo on the final play.

Wilford also averaged 14.3 yards a catch last year. Williams averaged 9.9. Williams had just one touchdown catch in 15 starts last year while Wilford had two.

Another plus for Wilford is that he seems to have a good rapport with quarterback Byron Leftwich.

"It appears that Byron really likes throwing to him. I think he has a certain comfort zone throwing the ball to Ernest, and Ernest continues to reward him by making plays,'' Del Rio said.

Del Rio also said he'd like to see more of Cortez Hankton, an undrafted free agent in 2003 who was sidelined at the start of the year with a high ankle sprain. He's played in only three games this year, mostly on special teams, and has yet to catch a pass.

"Cortez and Ernest a lot of times are fighting for reps because they've basically been fourth and fifth in the rotation. So we're going to make that a competitive situation,'' he said.

Wilford has never complained about not getting more playing time and said it was a blessing to be drafted in the fourth round.

"It helped me to continue to work hard. I didn't come in here thinking I was the man,'' he said.

Wilford, though, has a lot of confidence.

"I know I can play this game. I know I'm not the fastest, I know I'm not the quickest, but I know one thing: I can play football,'' he said.

He's also his toughest critic and he was upset that he let a ball through his hands Sunday that was intercepted.

Remembering how he dropped a two-point conversion against Miami when he was playing for Virginia Tech, he said, "I vowed to myself that I'd never let that happen again. When I dropped that ball, I felt I let myself down and I let the team down.''
 
Interesting.
Leftwich hates Reggie and never throws him the ball. If he does it's a bounce pass or a pass where Reggie gets leveled by the D. F YOU leftwich, you pile of garbage.
 
A year ago in preseason I ran across an article on Wilford that really impressed me. He was outplaying Williams consistently in practice and on the field. The article reminded me of a similar story when the 9ers drafted JJ Stokes ahead of Terrell Owens. The thing that really impressed me about Wilford was his maturity and determination, two things Williams lacked. Wiflord is a character guy.Then Wilford had some nice moments in the redzone as a rookie and Williams was a big disappointment. This preseason all the talk was about Matt Jones and Williams again, but Wilford was never in jeapardy of losing his job, even to the point of seeing Troy Edwards cut. I've picked up Wilford believing he wasn't a one week wonder, and will be better than Matt or Reggie the rest of this season. His game is all about making plays, tough catches, going after the ball, etc. I don't think it's time to call Reggie and NFL bust, but JJ Stokes anyone?

 
A year ago in preseason I ran across an article on Wilford that really impressed me. He was outplaying Williams consistently in practice and on the field. The article reminded me of a similar story when the 9ers drafted JJ Stokes ahead of Terrell Owens. The thing that really impressed me about Wilford was his maturity and determination, two things Williams lacked. Wiflord is a character guy.

Then Wilford had some nice moments in the redzone as a rookie and Williams was a big disappointment. This preseason all the talk was about Matt Jones and Williams again, but Wilford was never in jeapardy of losing his job, even to the point of seeing Troy Edwards cut.

I've picked up Wilford believing he wasn't a one week wonder, and will be better than Matt or Reggie the rest of this season. His game is all about making plays, tough catches, going after the ball, etc.

I don't think it's time to call Reggie and NFL bust, but JJ Stokes anyone?
Reggie is a better blocker and that is why Willams is the starter....I know it sucks, but facts are facts.
 
Reggie is a better blocker and that is why Willams is the starter....I know it sucks, but facts are facts.
That's great. Let me know when both guys are competing for the left guard spot & I'll grab Williams for my FF O-line. Last I saw, the WR's main asset is his ability to get open & catch the ball. That puts Wilford out front.
 
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Reggie is a better blocker and that is why Willams is the starter....I know it sucks, but facts are facts.
I'm not doubting you, but I've never heard this before. It looks like Ernest is earning a bigger role. He deserves it. I'm confident this guy will produce. Whether he starts or not isn't as important as who Lefty targets more. Anyway, in the league I grabbed him, both Jones and Williams are gone... deep league... but I may have to start Wilford a time or two... byes and injuries.
 
I think Lefty is starting to zone in on Wilford - the same way Delhomme is zoning in on SmithKeep an eye on this situation for sure

 
but I may have to start Wilford a time or two... byes and injuries.
With Rod Smith and Keyshawn on a bye this week, i think i'm going to give the kid a start. Over Jimmy Sniff to boot!
:goodposting: I'm just about ready to drop J Smith for Wilford. Smith has become invisible to Lefty. It seems like Wilford is his first check down at this point. With Moss and Owens on my roster, I need someone who can perform. I think it's time for a flyer.

 
Smith and Wilford owner here too. I am considering going with Wilford over Smith, but I can't pull the trigger. Convince me to do so - I'm all ears. If I start Wilford this week against HOU and he comes out strong, I will come out smelling like a rose in front of my leaguemates. I like that! :thumbup: So - let's hear the reasons for the possible changing of the guard.

 
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I picked up Wilford yesterday and I plan on starting him this week due to byes and injuries.Time for some Wilford pickle power!!! :pickle: :pickle: :pickle: :pickle: :pickle:

 
I'm a Smith owner, any chance this is good news for him and will help his stats down the stretch?
Nope :D
Great, I better hope that Eddie Kennison can step up as a #2 WR, Kevin Curtis can continue to be the 2005 version of Drew Bennett, or that Darrell Jackson comes back 100% in a few weeks.
 
Nobody knows what Wilford or Jimmy is gonna do down the stretch, but I'd like to discuss some opinions of why you think either of them will produce or not produce. This is actually a very good topic to discuss, but let's discuss and share opinions as opposed to saying he's good or he's not good. Those of you that saw his 145-yd game, what did you like about it? Who does Wilford remind you of? What will Jimmy's role be going forward, what about Reggie Williams?

 
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(Hopefully the server upgrades will include a kool-aid smiley. God knows we need one.)Consider me on the kool-aid. :banned: Wheelhouse, I'd make three main arguments.1. Targets last week - Wilford had one more than Smith, and Smith had one drop amongst his targets. I think Lefty's confidence in Smith is eroding. He only got one target in the second half.2. Wilford's Athleticism - Wilford is 6'4", 218 as compared to Smith's 6'1", 202. Wilford has the ability to make big plays as well as go across the middle. He's also making more of his chances, catching 6 of his 7 targets last week as opposed to Smith's 2 of 6.3. Smith being covered - He is getting all the attention, usually drawing the double teams, which makes things that much easier for Wilford.With Williams being banged up, Del Rio seems high on Wilford and seems ready to give him the chance to make good with it. Last week shows that given the opportunity to do that, he can. I think his value this week is lowered a bit because the Jags should be able to run the ball and as a result won't need to go to the air too much, but lately Wilford seems to be the red zone choice for Lefty.He won't set the world on fire this weekend, but I think 6/85/1 is a reasonable expectation.

 
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(Hopefully the server upgrades will include a kool-aid smiley. God knows we need one.)

Consider me on the kool-aid. :banned: Wheelhouse, I'd make three main arguments.

1. Targets last week - Wilford had one more than Smith, who also dropped Smith is eroding. He only got one target in the second half.

2. Wilford's Athleticism - Wilford is 6'4", 218 as compared to Smith's 6'1", 202. Wilford has the ability to make big plays as well as go across the middle. He's also making more of his chances, catching 6 of his 7 targets last week as opposed to Smith's 2 of 6.

3. Smith being covered - He is getting all the attention, usually drawing the double teams, which makes things that much easier for Wilford.

With Williams being banged up, Del Rio seems high on Wilford and seems ready to give him the chance to make good with it. Last week shows that given the opportunity to do that, he can.

I think his value this week is lowered a bit because the Jags should be able to run the ball and as a result won't need to go to the air too much, but lately Wilford seems to be the red zone choice for Lefty.

He won't set the world on fire this weekend, but I think 6/85/1 is a reasonable expectation.
:goodposting: That's the kind of discussion I was looking for.
 
So, do we like Ernie more than the other breakout no-name from last week, Roby? How do either compare to Bryant Johnson?

 
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Wilford is big and seems strong. I saw an impressive TD a couple of weeks ago from him...Jax was inside the ten and just threw it out to him on a quick hitch and let him bowl over the DB who was trying to cover him. His role has only been growing since then. I agree the Jax WR situation is crowded and I doubt Wilford is going to explode into fantasy WR2 status or anything, but for those of us in 12 team-4 WR leagues he has good matchup value. And I believe Jax has some good matchups coming.

 
Caution: Don't drop Jimmy. Once teams realize he isn't the only sheriff in town his game will come back. He has been pretty much a decoy the last couple of weeks. That's not a downgrade to Wilford though. He's what they have been waiting for. A WR to complement Smith, and perhaps take over for him. This is also not a dis on Reggie. He just isn't WR1 material, IMO.

 
So, do we like Ernie more than the other breakout no-name from last week, Roby? How do either compare to Bryant Johnson?
I was wondering the same thing. I didn't get to see Titans game last week and would love to hear some opinions. But Bryant Johnson is the guy I find intriguing this week. With Boldin out he'll get the start opposite Fitz, and Warner was all melty for Johnson and targeted him heavily in pre-season. Warner really liking Johnson--no Boldin--a team that has to throw a lot--seems to point to some potentially nice numbers.
 
I picked up Roby before I even heard this guy had a breakout game...now I am completely second guessing myself! My league awards bonus points for the big play....so does Wilford have more potential for the big play than Roby?

 
I picked up Roby before I even heard this guy had a breakout game...now I am completely second guessing myself! My league awards bonus points for the big play....so does Wilford have more potential for the big play than Roby?
Found the answer to my own question......he's averaging ~24yds/recRoby is averaging ~12yds/rec (only counted the last game since he's only played in 3)

 
Reggie is a better blocker and that is why Willams is the starter....I know it sucks, but facts are facts.
That's great. Let me know when both guys are competing for the left guard spot & I'll grab Williams for my FF O-line. Last I saw, the WR's main asset is his ability to get open & catch the ball. That puts Wilford out front.
the WR's ability to block is a key factor in a successful offense.Do some research you will find that a high percentage of your long term successful receivers are also very good blockers.

 
As someone who has been high on Wilford since last year I think the biggest knock on Wilford is he lacks good quickness and speed. I think a good comparison would be Keyshawn (not saying he is as good or not it is just a comparison). I actually noticed Wilford because I was all over Reggie last year and was "scouting" him and Wilford looked better.I have thought for some time now that Wilford is better than Reggie, at least for now. It has been rumored that Reggie is as bright as a bologna sandwich.I cooled on Wilford a bit with the drafting of Matt Jones and all the hype he was getting. I just didn't see the Jags giving Wilford a chance. I would keep my expectations modest though but I could see some respectful numbers from Wilford if he does indeed move up the depth chart.

 
As someone who has been high on Wilford since last year I think the biggest knock on Wilford is he lacks good quickness and speed.
I don't know, he looks to have good quickness to me. Not fast, but good game speed. Fluid in his route, and catches the ball in stride. Not a lot of wasted movement.
 
So, do we like Ernie more than the other breakout no-name from last week, Roby? How do either compare to Bryant Johnson?
I would pick up Wilford over Roby. Roby will be of value for this week, then it is the Titans bye week and then hopefully Bennett and Jones will be back from their injuries and Jones will be back to the #2 WR. I am not sure if Jones slot is up for grabs but if Roby has a solid game like last week he could make a strong case.Overall I feel more confident about Wilford's situation so that is why I picked him up.

 
Is Wilford worth dropping Chambers for? Am I crazy for even thinking about this? Chambers gets tons of targets, too bad his QB is horrible.

 
Is Wilford worth dropping Chambers for? Am I crazy for even thinking about this? Chambers gets tons of targets, too bad his QB is horrible.
I would say no - unless Wilford has another 100-yd, TD game this week at HOU. If that happens, it might be too late to grab him. It might be too late to even get him by Saturday. Del Rio is a pretty straight shooter when it comes to comments on his players. I tend to believe him if he's seriously thinking of using Wilford as the WR2 over Reggie Williams. I don't think it's just a scare tactic to get Reggie back on his game, if he (Reggie) even has the game the Jags are looking for.
 
Is Wilford worth dropping Chambers for?  Am I crazy for even thinking about this?  Chambers gets tons of targets, too bad his QB is horrible.
I would say no - unless Wilford has another 100-yd, TD game this week at HOU. If that happens, it might be too late to grab him. It might be too late to even get him by Saturday. Del Rio is a pretty straight shooter when it comes to comments on his players. I tend to believe him if he's seriously thinking of using Wilford as the WR2 over Reggie Williams. I don't think it's just a scare tactic to get Reggie back on his game, if he (Reggie) even has the game the Jags are looking for.
I do like Wilford this week, thats why I'm considering. His targets are very low, this week was highest YTD (7). I'm also thinking with Jags schedule they could be up and running the ball often.......Chambers is so frustrating, but I don't know if Wilford is the answer. Chambers is clearly #1 WR in Mia.
 
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I like Wilford. Seems to have a knack for scoring, even with limited opps. The bigger question for me is what is up with Williams????? JAX homers and other posters were saying how great he looked this preseason. From the little I've seen he doesn't looked that great. Not particularly fast looking and I've seen him have a fair share of drops. What is great about Williams other than his size? Is this guy a great practice guy, poor gamer? I just don't see it, so I have to think if Wilford gets a shot and produces he'll stick.

 
Smith and Wilford owner here too. I am considering going with Wilford over Smith, but I can't pull the trigger. Convince me to do so - I'm all ears. If I start Wilford this week against HOU and he comes out strong, I will come out smelling like a rose in front of my leaguemates. I like that! :thumbup: So - let's hear the reasons for the possible changing of the guard.
Don't know if I could pull that trigger. But part of my reasoning on playing Wilford this week is Dunta Robinson. The kid is very good, and given Smiff's a bit slower, I think he'll be stuck on him like glue during this game. Look for good games from Freddie T and ERRRNESTTT!
 
I picked up Roby before I even heard this guy had a breakout game...now I am completely second guessing myself! My league awards bonus points for the big play....so does Wilford have more potential for the big play than Roby?
Found the answer to my own question......he's averaging ~24yds/recRoby is averaging ~12yds/rec (only counted the last game since he's only played in 3)
Well, technically Roby is a MUCH greater deep theat. Unfortunately Chow's offense (TEN) doesn't thrive on setting up OR throwing deep very often (no "shots"). They instead throw very quick/short routes most of the time, thus you see their TE's getting much luvin. Anyway, Roby is a very quick, very active WR. But, you're correct in that, in TEN, the chances of him getting many long plays/TD's is less than in Jax.
 
I drafted Reggie Williams in a dynasty draft his rookie year. He has been a complete bust up to this point. I am holding onto him till the end of this year, but I have to say I don't have high hopes for him. Take this for what it is worth (I have no reason not to believe it) but Reggie went into a cell phone store down in Jacksonville in which my friend's wife works. The dude just reeked and was stoned out of his mind. His buddy had to hold him up and pretty much sign him up for the service etc., because Reggie was so out of his mind. Could barely talk.I don't know if this kind of lifestyle is directly hurting his play (God knows a lot of players hit the ganj), but it can't help.I picked up Wilford, and he has a better chance at making my roster next year than smokey.

 

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