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Will the Raiders win a game? (1 Viewer)

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Did not anticipate Pryor playing this well. That's a nice development for the Oakland fans. Probably the first real ray of light the franchise has had in a long time.

The Raiders still have massive needs (RB, WR, TE for starters), but they're clearly not the worst team in the league.

 
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:D

Did not anticipate Pryor playing this well. That's a nice development for the Oakland fans. Probably the first real ray of light the franchise has had in a long time.

The Raiders still have massive needs (RB, WR, TE for starters), but they're clearly not the worst team in the league.
EBF showering Raider fans with high praise.

 
:D

Did not anticipate Pryor playing this well. That's a nice development for the Oakland fans. Probably the first real ray of light the franchise has had in a long time.

The Raiders still have massive needs (RB, WR, TE for starters), but they're clearly not the worst team in the league.
EBF showering Raider fans with high praise.
:)

Well, if Pryor can maintain his play anywhere near its current level, that will be huge for the Raiders. If you're going to have one good player on offense, QB is the spot where you'd most want to have him. Now it's a matter of building around him. I think they have lots of okay players at WR, but nobody who's really a top quality NFL starter. That would be a nice spot to upgrade. This is a pretty good WR draft and there should be some interesting candidates. Obviously I'm not a big McFadden fan, but putting that aside they haven't done enough to build good depth behind him. It might be time to spend a 2nd-4th rounder on a RB this next draft. I like Ausberry at TE, but he's injured and totally unproven. Rivera seems like he would be better as a backup. A legitimate receiving TE would be nice for Oakland. There are some TEs in this draft who could be good additions.

 
:D

Did not anticipate Pryor playing this well. That's a nice development for the Oakland fans. Probably the first real ray of light the franchise has had in a long time.

The Raiders still have massive needs (RB, WR, TE for starters), but they're clearly not the worst team in the league.
EBF showering Raider fans with high praise.
:)

Well, if Pryor can maintain his play anywhere near its current level, that will be huge for the Raiders. If you're going to have one good player on offense, QB is the spot where you'd most want to have him. Now it's a matter of building around him. I think they have lots of okay players at WR, but nobody who's really a top quality NFL starter. That would be a nice spot to upgrade. This is a pretty good WR draft and there should be some interesting candidates. Obviously I'm not a big McFadden fan, but putting that aside they haven't done enough to build good depth behind him. It might be time to spend a 2nd-4th rounder on a RB this next draft. I like Ausberry at TE, but he's injured and totally unproven. Rivera seems like he would be better as a backup. A legitimate receiving TE would be nice for Oakland. There are some TEs in this draft who could be good additions.
They need OL help more than anything else. Anyone other than Pryor would be getting killed behind the sieve they have out there this year.

 
:D

Did not anticipate Pryor playing this well. That's a nice development for the Oakland fans. Probably the first real ray of light the franchise has had in a long time.

The Raiders still have massive needs (RB, WR, TE for starters), but they're clearly not the worst team in the league.
EBF showering Raider fans with high praise.
To be fair, not being the worst team in the league was really the only thing us Raider fans could have hoped for this year.

 
:D

Did not anticipate Pryor playing this well. That's a nice development for the Oakland fans. Probably the first real ray of light the franchise has had in a long time.

The Raiders still have massive needs (RB, WR, TE for starters), but they're clearly not the worst team in the league.
EBF showering Raider fans with high praise.
:)

Well, if Pryor can maintain his play anywhere near its current level, that will be huge for the Raiders. If you're going to have one good player on offense, QB is the spot where you'd most want to have him. Now it's a matter of building around him. I think they have lots of okay players at WR, but nobody who's really a top quality NFL starter. That would be a nice spot to upgrade. This is a pretty good WR draft and there should be some interesting candidates. Obviously I'm not a big McFadden fan, but putting that aside they haven't done enough to build good depth behind him. It might be time to spend a 2nd-4th rounder on a RB this next draft. I like Ausberry at TE, but he's injured and totally unproven. Rivera seems like he would be better as a backup. A legitimate receiving TE would be nice for Oakland. There are some TEs in this draft who could be good additions.
They need OL help more than anything else. Anyone other than Pryor would be getting killed behind the sieve they have out there this year.
Moore and Streater are only OK? Pretty sure they start on any team in the NFL. Some teams would surely love to have either or both.

 
:D

Did not anticipate Pryor playing this well. That's a nice development for the Oakland fans. Probably the first real ray of light the franchise has had in a long time.

The Raiders still have massive needs (RB, WR, TE for starters), but they're clearly not the worst team in the league.
EBF showering Raider fans with high praise.
:)

Well, if Pryor can maintain his play anywhere near its current level, that will be huge for the Raiders. If you're going to have one good player on offense, QB is the spot where you'd most want to have him. Now it's a matter of building around him. I think they have lots of okay players at WR, but nobody who's really a top quality NFL starter. That would be a nice spot to upgrade. This is a pretty good WR draft and there should be some interesting candidates. Obviously I'm not a big McFadden fan, but putting that aside they haven't done enough to build good depth behind him. It might be time to spend a 2nd-4th rounder on a RB this next draft. I like Ausberry at TE, but he's injured and totally unproven. Rivera seems like he would be better as a backup. A legitimate receiving TE would be nice for Oakland. There are some TEs in this draft who could be good additions.
They need OL help more than anything else. Anyone other than Pryor would be getting killed behind the sieve they have out there this year.
My Raider fan buddy was talking up Veldheer pretty big before his injury. Assuming he comes back, he should give them at least one decent starter.

I feel like you can get interior linemen pretty cheap in the draft, but I really don't pay much attention to the non-FF positions tbh.

 
Moore and Streater are only OK? Pretty sure they start on any team in the NFL. Some teams would surely love to have either or both.
They're okay, but not at the level of a real #1 NFL WR (Calvin, Andre, Fitzgerald, Marshall, etc).

 
I agree the Raiders don't really have a WR#1. Denarius is more of a solid #2 wideout and Streater is an overachiever. Where the Raiders WR's are making their bread and butter is on those Pryor roll out scrambles. They must rehearse in practice how to break off routes and angle to the sidelines, because the Raider WR's were always near the sidelines facing Pyror finding gaps in the coverage. The WR crew is undertalented as a whole, but overachieving as they compliment what Pryor does best, make plays out of the pocket.

It would be wonderful to have a Calvin, Demaryius, Marshall, Julio, AJ type. But like you say, that's for a future draft. maybe.

 
EBF said:
DocHolliday said:
Moore and Streater are only OK? Pretty sure they start on any team in the NFL. Some teams would surely love to have either or both.
They're okay, but not at the level of a real #1 NFL WR (Calvin, Andre, Fitzgerald, Marshall, etc).
Wait, there is a difference between a real #1 NFL WR and an elite NFL WR, which are the guys you listed. Happy to debate Streater and Moore's talent and ability in terms of #1 but the majority of NFL teams lack studs in the caliber of Calvin, Fitz, Marshall, etc.

 
EBF said:
DocHolliday said:
Moore and Streater are only OK? Pretty sure they start on any team in the NFL. Some teams would surely love to have either or both.
They're okay, but not at the level of a real #1 NFL WR (Calvin, Andre, Fitzgerald, Marshall, etc).
Wait, there is a difference between a real #1 NFL WR and an elite NFL WR, which are the guys you listed. Happy to debate Streater and Moore's talent and ability in terms of #1 but the majority of NFL teams lack studs in the caliber of Calvin, Fitz, Marshall, etc.
I agree. This is an important distinction. WR#1 for a given team <> WR1 fantasy.

Having said that, Raiders do not have a true WR#1.

 
DocHolliday said:
LawFitz said:
EBF said:
Raiderfan32904 said:
EBF said:
:D

Did not anticipate Pryor playing this well. That's a nice development for the Oakland fans. Probably the first real ray of light the franchise has had in a long time.

The Raiders still have massive needs (RB, WR, TE for starters), but they're clearly not the worst team in the league.
EBF showering Raider fans with high praise.
:)

Well, if Pryor can maintain his play anywhere near its current level, that will be huge for the Raiders. If you're going to have one good player on offense, QB is the spot where you'd most want to have him. Now it's a matter of building around him. I think they have lots of okay players at WR, but nobody who's really a top quality NFL starter. That would be a nice spot to upgrade. This is a pretty good WR draft and there should be some interesting candidates. Obviously I'm not a big McFadden fan, but putting that aside they haven't done enough to build good depth behind him. It might be time to spend a 2nd-4th rounder on a RB this next draft. I like Ausberry at TE, but he's injured and totally unproven. Rivera seems like he would be better as a backup. A legitimate receiving TE would be nice for Oakland. There are some TEs in this draft who could be good additions.
They need OL help more than anything else. Anyone other than Pryor would be getting killed behind the sieve they have out there this year.
Moore and Streater are only OK? Pretty sure they start on any team in the NFL. Some teams would surely love to have either or both.
tbh I think 'OK' is the perfect way to describe them

 
EBF said:
DocHolliday said:
Moore and Streater are only OK? Pretty sure they start on any team in the NFL. Some teams would surely love to have either or both.
They're okay, but not at the level of a real #1 NFL WR (Calvin, Andre, Fitzgerald, Marshall, etc).
Wait, there is a difference between a real #1 NFL WR and an elite NFL WR, which are the guys you listed. Happy to debate Streater and Moore's talent and ability in terms of #1 but the majority of NFL teams lack studs in the caliber of Calvin, Fitz, Marshall, etc.
I agree. This is an important distinction. WR#1 for a given team <> WR1 fantasy.

Having said that, Raiders do not have a true WR#1.
Maybe you're right. I think Moore and Streater have the skill set to be a genuine #1 WR for any team, but have not really shown the consistency necessary to be a dependable option. And you are right that the Raiders need to find a true #1 guy, if only to make more opportunity for guys like Moore (who is best as a downfield threat) and Streater (who while not a possession/slot guy could flourish as a #2 with a threat playing across him on the other side.

 
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EBF said:
LawFitz said:
EBF said:
Raiderfan32904 said:
EBF said:
:D

Did not anticipate Pryor playing this well. That's a nice development for the Oakland fans. Probably the first real ray of light the franchise has had in a long time.

The Raiders still have massive needs (RB, WR, TE for starters), but they're clearly not the worst team in the league.
EBF showering Raider fans with high praise.
:)

Well, if Pryor can maintain his play anywhere near its current level, that will be huge for the Raiders. If you're going to have one good player on offense, QB is the spot where you'd most want to have him. Now it's a matter of building around him. I think they have lots of okay players at WR, but nobody who's really a top quality NFL starter. That would be a nice spot to upgrade. This is a pretty good WR draft and there should be some interesting candidates. Obviously I'm not a big McFadden fan, but putting that aside they haven't done enough to build good depth behind him. It might be time to spend a 2nd-4th rounder on a RB this next draft. I like Ausberry at TE, but he's injured and totally unproven. Rivera seems like he would be better as a backup. A legitimate receiving TE would be nice for Oakland. There are some TEs in this draft who could be good additions.
They need OL help more than anything else. Anyone other than Pryor would be getting killed behind the sieve they have out there this year.
My Raider fan buddy was talking up Veldheer pretty big before his injury. Assuming he comes back, he should give them at least one decent starter.

I feel like you can get interior linemen pretty cheap in the draft, but I really don't pay much attention to the non-FF positions tbh.
We have 3 young offensive lineman to build around. Veldheer, Wisniewski, & Watson. The team needs upgrades at both guard spots. I agree with you on your other assessments. The Raiders need a #1 WR, #1 TE, and its time to replace McFadden.

 
McFadden can't have a strong second half with Pryor playing well? Just wondering, i realize long term they need a solution

 
EBF said:
DocHolliday said:
Moore and Streater are only OK? Pretty sure they start on any team in the NFL. Some teams would surely love to have either or both.
They're okay, but not at the level of a real #1 NFL WR (Calvin, Andre, Fitzgerald, Marshall, etc).
Well, I guess that is an upgrade, since you previously referred to them as "trash" (when you were pimping David Ausberry).

 
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Will the Raiders win two games?
Will the Raiders win THREE games?
Will the Raiders win FOUR games?
Better question, will EBF stop starting silly threads like this in the future? Did anyone outside of him and ImTheScientist honestly expect the Raiders to go winless? Please.
I did when the plan was to start Flynn. Pryor is an amazing athlete who brings a whole new dimension to the offense, and he is striving to get better as well, watching a lot of tape of NFL greats like Manning and Brady. I can see the raiders having a positive record this season with Pryor under center, and a healthy Darren McFadden.
 
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Will the Raiders make the playoffs? That's a more appropriate question right now.
Can not believe it, but legit question. Last spot in the AFC is wide open. Really encouraged from what I have seen from the entire coaching staff and Pryor. I think how well the defense is playing is even a bigger surprise than Pryor.

 
If the Raiders somehow manage to make the playoffs, this will ***OFFICIALLY*** become the greatest SP thread ever.

Greater even than the thread where Sweetness bragged about being in a guppy league, and then got destroyed by some broads.

 
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Will the Raiders make the playoffs? That's a more appropriate question right now.
Can not believe it, but legit question. Last spot in the AFC is wide open. Really encouraged from what I have seen from the entire coaching staff and Pryor. I think how well the defense is playing is even a bigger surprise than Pryor.
I do not think the Raiders are going to the playoffs but this is an improved team. Just the fact that some people even consider it a possibility is refreshing.

And, the defense is a really big surprise. The defense has been awful for a decade.

 
If I had to bet everything I have on just one thing on earth it would be the under on 5 1/2 wins by the Raiders.
And this is why I'm not a betting man. :bag:
I would have done it too. :bag: :bag:
I DID do it (ok. I didn't bet everything, but I did bet 200 to try to win back 100). Couldn't see how the Raiders would be able to beat any of the Eagles/Giants/Texans when I made the bet in late August after a horrific preseason, but now it wouldn't be a shock for the Raiders to win those 3 in a row.

Oh well, at least my consolation prize is my teams is playing around 20 times better than I could've imagined this summer.

 
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