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.....especially since they also have Peterson, who could start on a lot of teams. TJ is expendable.Jim Miller and Adam Schein from Sirius NFL Radio were at Bears camp two days ago, watching the action and interviewing the coaches and players. They had already interviewed Lovie Smith prior to the start of the broadcast, and they kept teasing the segment. One of the things Miller kept mentioning about the RB derby was that "Lovie told us it would be a running back by committee this season." When I heard that, as a Benson owner, I was pretty much
But when they ran the interview, Lovie NEVER uttered the words running back by committee. Rather, he said that "during the course of a season, a team which runs the ball as much as we do will need two or three good running backs" due to injuries. He cited the situation last year in K.C. with Priest and L.J.
So maybe I just answered my own poll question.
I think Lovie really does want Jones on the team, but if Angelo thinks he can improve the team overall by dealing TJ, I suspect that is exactly what wil happen. Especially since the team likes Peterson so much.
.....especially since they also have Peterson, who could start on a lot of teams. TJ is expendable.Jim Miller and Adam Schein from Sirius NFL Radio were at Bears camp two days ago, watching the action and interviewing the coaches and players. They had already interviewed Lovie Smith prior to the start of the broadcast, and they kept teasing the segment. One of the things Miller kept mentioning about the RB derby was that "Lovie told us it would be a running back by committee this season." When I heard that, as a Benson owner, I was pretty much
But when they ran the interview, Lovie NEVER uttered the words running back by committee. Rather, he said that "during the course of a season, a team which runs the ball as much as we do will need two or three good running backs" due to injuries. He cited the situation last year in K.C. with Priest and L.J.
So maybe I just answered my own poll question.
I think Lovie really does want Jones on the team, but if Angelo thinks he can improve the team overall by dealing TJ, I suspect that is exactly what wil happen. Especially since the team likes Peterson so much.
Did you read the last line of the post you quoted? 
Sincerely,Randy Moss & Daunte Culpepper
that was a post-season trade, no? Tougher to trade during camp/pre-season.
I would say the movement of Bennett has aided in some of this talk.You could easily make the argument that this is the last trade as it does rarely happen, but it gives hope to those Benson owners...including myself.Do I want it to happen...yepDo I think it will happen...nope
I think this coupled with Jones extremely cheap contract make him worth retaining. Not too mention this is a team that knows first hand how bad the injury bug can be. Jones and Benson both got banged up at one point last year. Look at all the trouble this team has had just to keep a QB on the field!
Ahman Green was traded during camp.
Lovie has been saying that since he arrived in Chicago. I take that to mean they want good backups.
How many more do you have? It rarely happens once TC starts when it comes to big name players. If a team is going to trade for someone during TC they need to desperate because they know it will be a long time before the guy is up to speed with a new system. And the longer we go into TC the less likely a trade will happen. This is the NFL where a trade involves millions of dollars, draft picks that could be a future HOFer, and a learning curve of a new system that is going to be slow and must be considered. This isn't a Fantasy League where the trade generally just means swapping a couple names in a spread sheet. I just don't see a trade happening unless some starter on a serious contender blows a knee.....
I'd argue that big name players are rarely involved in trade rumors once camps start, but once they're involved in rumors, they actually get traded a very large percent of the time.Saying that big-name players don't move during camp is like saying that it's not likely that Clinton Portis is going to go at this point in time. No duh. Go back and look at how often a big-name player was on the trading block, and what percentage of the time they got moved. I mean, it's very very uncommon for a team to trade it's #1 WR in the middle of the season, but I don't think anyone was surprised when Tampa Bay sent Keenan McCardell packing to the Chargers. Why? Because McCardell's circumstances were drastically different from every other #1 WRs in the league.I don't know if this trade is going to get done or not, but let's just say that I don't think these Thomas Jones rumors would keep popping up if Chicago was really adverse to trading him.
I think that makes no sense. This whole post of yours makes no sense....What constitutes a "rumor?" If every player mentioned in trade rumors on this site then half the league would be moved according to your logic. I would like a list of trades that have happened since the opening of TC since the salary cap era has been in place. I bet the number of starters traded in that time at the major offensive positions could be counted on 1 hand. But tell us more about how players mentioned in trade rumors get traded?
Why would we look at starters? Thomas Jones isn't a starter.My point is that, for the most part, where there's smoke, there's fire. If a player's name keeps coming up in trade rumors, odds are he's on the trading block. No need to make it any more complicated than that.TheFanatic said:I think that makes no sense. This whole post of yours makes no sense....What constitutes a "rumor?" If every player mentioned in trade rumors on this site then half the league would be moved according to your logic. I would like a list of trades that have happened since the opening of TC since the salary cap era has been in place. I bet the number of starters traded in that time at the major offensive positions could be counted on 1 hand. But tell us more about how players mentioned in trade rumors get traded?
If I may, what SSOG is trying to say is that if teams called Jerry Angelo to inquire about the availability of Jones, and Angelo flat out told those teams "We will not trade Thomas Jones"... that information would likely have been made public one way or another. Furthermore, when questioned specifically about TJ, Angelo is on record as saying "We will do whatever it takes to help our football team." If Jones was untouchable, he would have said as much.Why would we look at starters? Thomas Jones isn't a starter.My point is that, for the most part, where there's smoke, there's fire. If a player's name keeps coming up in trade rumors, odds are he's on the trading block. No need to make it any more complicated than that.TheFanatic said:I think that makes no sense. This whole post of yours makes no sense....What constitutes a "rumor?" If every player mentioned in trade rumors on this site then half the league would be moved according to your logic.
I would like a list of trades that have happened since the opening of TC since the salary cap era has been in place. I bet the number of starters traded in that time at the major offensive positions could be counted on 1 hand. But tell us more about how players mentioned in trade rumors get traded?
Portis and Bailey were both starters (and pro bowl starters, at that). Thomas Jones is currently a backup at a position of depth, and even more, is battling injury. Big difference.FWIW, Here's Jeff Legwold's take. Legwold is widely considered the best and most accurate Denver source out there, and I definitely feel you can always take him at his word.
He isn't? Cedric has not been named the starter. He's working with the first team in the abcense of TJ. Yesterday Pederson was working with the first team because Cedric was ailing. Does that make him the starter?Also if any of these ideal Fantasy Trades happen in the NFL (TJ to Denver or the Jets) he would likely be the starter for either of those teams. So, yes, we are talking about starters here. We are talking about a major trade.Why would we look at starters? Thomas Jones isn't a starter.My point is that, for the most part, where there's smoke, there's fire. If a player's name keeps coming up in trade rumors, odds are he's on the trading block. No need to make it any more complicated than that.TheFanatic said:I think that makes no sense. This whole post of yours makes no sense....What constitutes a "rumor?" If every player mentioned in trade rumors on this site then half the league would be moved according to your logic.
I would like a list of trades that have happened since the opening of TC since the salary cap era has been in place. I bet the number of starters traded in that time at the major offensive positions could be counted on 1 hand. But tell us more about how players mentioned in trade rumors get traded?
Chicago's offense resembles KC's, except to a much lesser standard.
