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Will you get a Covid vaccine when available? (2 Viewers)
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Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
fatguyinalittlecoat
Footballguy
I also think "percentage of adults who have received at least one shot" isn't a very good metric to use to show how vaccinated an area is. @jobarules keeps throwing around the 90% number as if there's barely anyone left to vaccinate. The truth is that only 72% of people in New York City are fully vaccinated.
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fatguyinalittlecoat
Footballguy
OK, it's still not a good metric. There's a huge difference between "90% of adults have one shot" and "90% of the population is fully vaccinated."
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
So what? You can use a process of discernment to focus on a better metric if you choose.
When our leaders can agree on a metric, then I will use that metric.
It sounds like right now, the only metric that matters for limiting spread of OMICRON is % boosted.
El Floppo
Footballguy
fully vaxed adults in nyc are slightly above 80% fwiw.
what "fully vaccinated" means... I no longer know. but they split out 10% as having only one shot.
and yet, I've been seeing more spread of this thing lately in my circles (schools, primarily) than ever before. as such, the mask thing doesn't bother me.
El Floppo
Footballguy
10yo floppinha got her 2nd dose on Saturday. no affects at all- ran around all day Sunday without problem.
her teacher has come down iwith it though... so her entire class started back on remote today. and we've been getting weekly and sometimes more emails from the school about other cases in the community.
her teacher has come down iwith it though... so her entire class started back on remote today. and we've been getting weekly and sometimes more emails from the school about other cases in the community.
BeTheMatch
Footballguy
So let me get this straight... All the upset people in here and all the hand wringing going on is due to having to wear a mask when you go into a place of business? Really? What am I missing?
Yesterday I checked some places online to schedule a booster and my local clinic, the national chains, and some other places I looked were all booked out until late January or early February. I hit refresh and a spot opened up at my local clinic for today so I took that. First two shots were Pfizer and they didn't really improve my 5G reception, but I went Moderna for the booster so maybe that one will work.
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DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
Fwiw, the wife and I just walked in to Walmart for our boosters. They take appointments, but we just walked in. No problem.
Doug B
Footballguy
What state are you in?
Around here, there a plenty of places to walk in without an appointment and get a COVID booster.
MN. Maybe you can just walk right in to a walmart or CVS, but everything I saw said appointment required. Maybe I should have just tried that, but since I was able to get in I didn't think much more about it.
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
I scheduled my booster at the local Walgreen's one afternoon for the next morning and there were plenty of options available. However, the lady giving me the shot said they were slammed administering boosters. Maybe I just got lucky on timing (also, it was a weekday morning, so that may have played into it).
Doug B
Footballguy
Around here, the national chain places are more likely to prefer appointments (though I've seen walk-in invites to even those).
Where it's really easy to get boosters locally are at the many independent pharmacies and clinics we've got around here.
Looking at the walgreens website, there are a handful of appointments on 12/29 near me, but nothing before then. Maybe you could just walk-in like people have mentioned.
belljr
Footballguy
Thought exercise:
Come up with your plan on how you would handle this as a State/City/Health leader.
Please lay out your plan. Please lay out your alternatives for when cases rise like they are now.
Please lay out your metrics and idea on how we should be handling this. I would also like to know your plan going forwar if cases continue to rise. What other metrics should we as a society be using to lower the spread of this?
TIA
Come up with your plan on how you would handle this as a State/City/Health leader.
Please lay out your plan. Please lay out your alternatives for when cases rise like they are now.
Please lay out your metrics and idea on how we should be handling this. I would also like to know your plan going forwar if cases continue to rise. What other metrics should we as a society be using to lower the spread of this?
TIA
fatguyinalittlecoat
Footballguy
I wouldn’t necessarily trust people that live in states with low vaccination rates. I remember in the initial vaccine rollout when I couldn’t get a shot for weeks but folks in places like Louisiana were saying stuff like “just walk right in!” It’s tougher to get a shot in places where demand is high.
Mookie
Footballguy
Interesting read.
"Vaccines that cause fewer side effects may be needed if public health authorities want to persuade people to get regular or even sporadic boosters."
To me, this will be essential if more boosters are needed. I've heard from many people who had bad side effects that they are done getting vaxxed and that the reaction to the shot was worse that COVID. I do not agree with them, but these side effects are going to lead to booster hesitancy/fatigue.
AAABatteries
Footballguy
I'm a big believer in owning mistakes so I need to own this one. As you are already aware, I made that comment and I have no issue with you using it as an example of the devolution of the conversation and I would like to 1. apologize to the community and 2. explain myself.
I don't think things got shutdown due to me - I hadn't posted in the thread all day and was replying to Tim about what we should do or will do. However, my timing and wording were both poor and I deserve being taking to task for that.
I won't repost the rest of the post as it was taken down but wanted to explain that I listed a bunch of things that will happen or I think will happen. I even put "thankfully" in quotes so people would (hopefully) know that there's no happiness in anyone passing away but rather we collectively are doing our best and it does appear to be helping. Really poor choice of words and I should have just said "unfortunately folks will still pass and it appears most will be unvaccinated". I still have relatives who are not vaxxed and obviously I don't want them to get really sick or pass away.
Anyway, I know Joe wants to move on and not discuss this so if anybody has issue with me or want to discuss that train of thought further feel free to PM. Just want to say I'm sorry for my part in the crap show yesterday. The really bad part was I hadn't read any of the other pages or Joe asking for folks to tone things down and that definitely isn't what I did - even by accident.
Joe, hope you know it wasn't intentional and many of us really feel like the Covid threads in both forums have been helpful and beneficial to us and our families. I literally get ALL my Covid news here now and hope we continue to have good discussions.
belljr
Footballguy
Im already there. Obviously things can change based on the virus/data etc but its going to take a lot for me to get another booster in 6 months..... I dont think they are worse than covid but being "out" for ~ 4 days because of the side effect symptoms of my second and third shot. Not sure I want to have to take off work again for a couple days.
AAABatteries
Footballguy
I'd say FBGs, in aggregate, are smarter and more highly educated than the general population and we frequently have trouble with nuanced discussions around here. Too many people can't be bothered to either educate themselves or acknowledge that many aspects of this pandemic aren't black and white.
No worries. I don't blame your post specifically. It was just the last straw. It was just one more reminder of how toxic the tenor and tone is for way too much of the political forum.
And yes, please let's move on.
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Insoxicated
Out of curiosity, are you mad because you just don't want to wear a mask, consequences to yourself and others around you be damned, or are you mad because you think masks don't work?
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Insoxicated
Hope that continues and you don't end up on r/HermanCainAward or something GB. Stay safe out there
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BeTheMatch
Footballguy
Due to the bolded but the consequences you state are not fair to me at all. I am boosted.
flapgreen
Footballguy
Had covid end of last year and spent the first year + of covid working directly with Covid positive patients on a daily basis. My immunity is pretty damn strong at this point, much more than what a vaccine can provide me.Hope that continues and you don't end up on r/HermanCainAward GB. Stay safe out there
jvdesigns2002
Footballguy
It worries me when you post stuff like this. You know that I love your negativity. You’re still kinda negative in general tho, right?? Anytime you post super positive stuff—it reminds me of the Southpark episode where there was an evil Cartman where he somehow had a goatee and was super positive and nice.
BigJim®
Footballguy
Wife scheduled an appt 3 weeks out at Walgreens. If they are accepting walk ins, that's a pretty dumb system.
Doug B
Footballguy
Just out of curiosity ... are there any independent or family-run pharmacies in the Twin Cities area? If so, are they appreciable in number and are they offering COVID vaccines?
Around here, we've got:
a) Major chain pharmacies (Walgreens, CVS, WalMart, Target, grocery chains)
b) Independent and family-run pharmacies
c) Large hospitals + their affiliated urgent care centers
d) Local medical schools (LSU and Tulane are the big ones in New Orleans)
e) Independent clinics and urgent care centers
f) Local government vaccination centers (often schools)
... all giving COVID vaccines. (b) and (e) typically accept walk-ins, and (a) do so commonly but not always.
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Insoxicated
Most current science seems to disagree with you thus far. Convalescent immunity vs Omicron appears to fare worse than nearly any vaccine.
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Doug B
Footballguy
Paging @Terminalxylem ...
IMHO, more resources have to be poured into a potential intranasal COVID vaccine. I know there are researchers working on it, but it seems to be the red-headed stepchild of pharmaceutical interventions.
beer 30
Footballguy
I had an appointment with my rheumatologist yesterday, he recommended I play the immunocompromised card and get the booster ASAP. Came home, googled COVID booster in my area, made an appointment at CVS for 3pm, walked in, got the shot, putzed around for 15 minutes and came home. Definitely needed to schedule an appointment but they had at least 10 appoints running to 8pm available when I made mine. And you could choose what shot you wanted #TeamModerna
Terminalxylem
Footballguy
There’s really nothing to wade through - there isn’t an evidence-based, firm recommendation, other than boosting should be pursued. The CDC recommends you do it after resolution of the acute infection and isolation period. 90 days is extrapolating from the recommendation for those who received monoclonal antibodies, whose half life in our systems is known.
Personally with a new, more contagious variant circulating, I’d err on a shorter interval. The biggest down side to getting boosted earlier is pushing up the calendar for future boosters, which is trivial IMO. Immunologically, there are too many variables to determine the optimum interval in a one-size-fits-all fashion.
In Joe’s case, his doctor is likely weighing the very small risk of thrombotic/bleeding complications from the vaccine versus the (also small) risk his immune response to breakthrough infection was inadequate. That being said, clotting isn’t a contraindication to vaccination in any context.
Terminalxylem
Footballguy
Yeah, that looked pretty ugly. I just hope all the griping about mandates and other politically charged material doesn’t permeate the ffa Covid threads.
I don't mean this personally, but in general, this kind of formulaic snarky condescension post is what drives discussion down. The "put words in their mouth and pretend it's a question and then add the "got it" is not helpful regardless of the point or topic. Please don't do that.
I only say this as I'm interested in keeping these threads alive.
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Terminalxylem
Footballguy
Hooray! It will be interesting to see where this goes. Flumist is a nasal prep of the flu shot, but tends to have more respiratory side effects than the shot, and is limited to young, otherwise healthy people. Let’s hope they can do better with Covid.
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My wife ended up waiting an hour with an appointment at Walgreens. I waited maybe 10 minutes. I assume more people walked in at her time and I don’t think they are turning people away. We are both boosted with flu shots too. Oldest is boosted as well and over in Paris with a friend right now for another week. They are staying with a friend whose family moved there recently. I’ll be interested to hear how it was over there. Haven’t heard of any issues yet. Louvre visit tomorrow.
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b.s. you spoke what was in your heart. this thread would be well served by honest self examination.
